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bah007
11-28-2006, 11:57 AM
1. Detroit- Brady Quinn - QB, Notre Dame
2. Oakland- Calvin Johnson - WR, Georgia Tech
3. Arizona- Joe Thomas - OT, Wisconsin
4. Cleveland- Gaines Adams - DE, Clemson
5. Tampa Bay- LaMarr Woodley - DE/OLB, Michigan
6. Houston- Leon Hall - CB, Michigan
7. Washington- Daymeion Hughes - CB, California
8. Green Bay- Adrian Peterson - HB, Oklahoma
9. Tennessee- Jake Long - OT, Michigan
10. Pittsburgh- Patrick Willis - LB, Mississippi

real
11-29-2006, 01:15 PM
1. Arizona Cardinals - Joe Thomas, OT Wisconsin
2. Oakland Raiders - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
3. Detroit Lions - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame
4. Tennessee Titans - Calvin Johnson, WR G-Tech
5. GreenBay Packers - Adrian Peterson, RB OU

6. TampaBay Bucs - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
7. Houston Texans - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
8. Cleveland Browns - LaMarr Woodley DE Michigan
9. Philadelphia Eagles -Michael Griffin FS Texas
10. Buffalo Bills - Patrick Willis, ILB, Mississippi

11. Miami Dolphins - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn St.
12. Wash Redskins - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
13. Pittsburg Steelers -Jake Long OT Michigan
14. California 49ers - Daymeion Hughes CB California
15. Kansas City Cheifs -Jeff Samardzija WR Notre Dame
16. New Jersey Jets - Marshaun Lynch, RB Cal
17. Minnesota Vikings -Ted Ginn Jr. [WR, Ohio State]
18. NewOrleans Saints -Demarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT, North Carolina State
19. Jaxs Jaguars - Brandon Siler [OLB, Florida]
20. St. Louis Rams - Reggie Nelson, FS Florida

21. Carolina Panthers - Buster Davis ILB, Florida State
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye, DT Louisville

23. Dallas Cowboys - Kyle Young G Fresno State
24. Denver Broncos - Brandon Merriweather S, Miami

25. Patriots via/Sea. - Quentin Moses, DE Georgia
26. Baltimore Ravens - Leon Hall CB Michigan
27. Atlanta Falcons - Aaron Rouse SS VirginiaTech
28. New England Patriots -Keith Rivers MLB Southern Cal
29. New York Giants - Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn
30. San Diego Chargers -Justin Blalock RT/G Texas

31. Chicago Bears - Doug Free OT Northern Illinois
32. Indianapolis Colts - Earl Everett OLB Florida


The Second Round!!!
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1. Arizona Cardinals - Rufus Alexander OLB Oklahoma
2. Oakland Raiders - Ray McDonald DT Florida
3. Detroit Lions - Levi Brown OT Penn State
4. Tennessee Titans - Tom Zbikowski SS Notre Dame
5. GreenBay Packers - Lawrence Jackson DE, Southern California
6. TampaBay Bucs - Drew Stanton, QB Michigan State
7. Houston Texans - Antoine Cason, [CB, Arizona Jr.]
8. Cleveland Browns - Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State
9. Philadelphia Eagles -H.B. Blades, ILB, Pittsburgh
10. Buffalo Bills - Zack Miller TE Arizona State
11. Miami Dolphins - Adam Carriker DE Nebraska
12. Jets via/Skins - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
13. Pittsburg Steelers -Michael Bush RB Louisville
14. California 49ers - Anthony Waters ILB Clemson
15. Kansas City Cheifs -Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
16. New Jersey Jets - Brandon Mebane NT California
17. Minnesota Vikings -Josh Gattis FS Wake Forest
18. New Orleans Saints -Jason Hill WR Washington State
19. Jaxsonville Jaguars -Tim Crowder DE Texas
20. St. Louis Rams - Baraka Adkins DE Miami
21. Carolina Panthers - Prescott Burgess OLB Michigan
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Greg Olsen TE, Miami FL
23. Dallas Cowboys - Eric Weddle FS/KR Utah
24. Denver Broncos - Anthony Spencer, DE Purdue
25. Seattle Seahawks - Josh Beekman- OG, Boston College
26. Baltimore Ravens - Troy Smith QB Ohio State
27. Atlanta Falcons - Samson Satele C/G Hawaii
28. New England Patriots -Robert Herbert cb/FS Colorado State
29. New York Giants - Tanard Jackson, CB Syracuse
30. San Diego Chargers - Desmond Bishop ILB California
31. Chicago Bears - Paul Williams WR Fresno State
32. TAMPA BAY via/Colts - Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota



The Third Round !!! End of Day 1

1. Arizona Cardinals - Ryan Kalil C Southern Cal
2. Oakland Raiders - DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
3. Detroit Lions - Matt Herian TE Nebraska
4. Tennessee Titans - Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame
5. GreenBay Packers - John Wendling, S Wyoming
6. TampaBay Bucs - Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame
7. Houston Texans - Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
8. Cleveland Browns - Tony Hunt RB Penn State
9. Saints via/Eagles - Mason Crosby K Colorado
10. Buffalo Bills - Ben Grubbs, G Auburn
11. Miami Dolphins - DeAndre Jackson, CB, Iowa State
12. Washington Redskins -Arron Sears OT Tennessee
13. Pittsburg Steelers - Aaron Ross, CB Texas
14. California 49ers - Steve Smith WR Southern Cal
15. Kansas City Cheifs - Brian Daniels OG Colorado
16. New Jersey Jets - Brian Smith OLB Missouri
17. Minnesota Vikings - Darius Walker RB, Notre Dame
18. New Orleans Saints -Ded Harrington ILB Missouri
19. Jaxsonville Jaguars -Joe Staley- OT, Central Michigan
20. St. Louis Rams - Rhema McKnight, WR Notre Dame
21. Carolina Panthers - Anthony Reddick CB/FS* Miami
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Ahmad Brooks OLB Virginia Tech *Supplemental 2006*
23. Dallas Cowboys - Jordan Hill DT Arizona State
24. Denver Broncos - Conrad Bolston, DT Maryland
25. Seattle Seahawks - John Sullivan C Notre Dame
26. Baltimore Ravens - Ken Darby RB Alabama
27. Atlanta Falcons - Mkristo Bruce, DE Washington State
28. New England Patriots -Andre Caldwell WR Florida
29. New York Giants - Jay Alford DT Penn State
30. San Diego Chargers - Courtney Taylor WR Auburn
31. Chicago Bears - Joe Newton TE Oregon St.
32. Indianapolis Colts - Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia


Round 4 Day 2

1. Arizona Cardinals - David Irons CB Auburn
2. Oakland Raiders - Eric Wright- cb/S, UNLV
3. Detroit Lions - Kareem Brown DE - Miami
4. Tennessee Titans - Andrew Cameron- OT, California
5. GreenBay Packers -Ambrose Wooden CB Norte Dame
6. TampaBay Bucs - Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan
7. Houston Texans - Juwan Simpson, OLB Alabama
8. Cleveland Browns - Kurt Quartermann- OG, Louisville
9. Philadelphia Eagles - Dan Mozes OG/C West Virginia
10. Buffalo Bills - John Talley CB Duke
11. Miami Dolphins - Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College
12. 49ers from /skins - Brian Leonard fB Rutgers
13. Pittsburg Steelers - Thaddeus Washington ILB - Colorado
14. California 49ers - Wes Smith, S Memphis
15. Saints from /cheifs - George Batisite OG Southern Mississippi State
16. 49ers from / Jets - Oscar Lua ILB Southern Cal
17. Minnesota Vikings - Mike Jones OT Iowa
18. New Orleans Saints - Andrew Wellock K Eastern Michigan
19. Jaxsonville Jaguars - Marcus Thomas DT Florida
20. St. Louis Rams - Nick Graham CB - Tulsa
21. Carolina Panthers - Tyler Ecker TE Michigan
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Simeon Castille- CB Alabama
23. Dallas Cowboys - Jarrett Hicks WR Texas Tech
24. Falcons from/ Broncos - Mike Otto OT Purdue
25. Seattle Seahawks - Steve Breaston WR Michigan
26. Titans from /Ravens - Courtney Lewis RB Texas A&M
27. Atlanta Falcons - Jon Peattie K - Miami
28. New England Patriots - Ramzee Robinson CB Alabama
29. New York Giants - Aaron Brant- OT, Iowa State
30. San Diego Chargers - Marcus Paschal S - Iowa

31. Chicago Bears - Wade Koehl OLB - Houston
32. Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Carnahan- OT, Arizona State


Round 5

1. Arizona Cardinals - Gary Lovely, FS BYU
2. Oakland Raiders - Stephen Nicholas OLB South Florida
3. Detroit Lions - Marquice Cole CB NorthWestern
4. Tennessee Titans - David Clowney WR/PR Virginia Tech
5. GreenBay Packers -Kasey Studdard OG Texas
6. TampaBay Bucs - Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
7. Houston Texans - Doug Datish- C, Ohio St
8. Cleveland Browns - Ryne Robinson, wr Miami(OH)
9. Philadelphia Eagles - Sam Keller QB Arizona State
10. Rams from /Bills - Tommy Blake- OLB, Texas Christian
11. Miami Dolphins - Dwayne Bowe, WR LSU
12. Washington Redskins - Loren Howard DE Arizona State
13. Pittsburg Steelers - Mike D'Andrea, ILB Ohio St.
14. California 49ers - Tim Duckworth, G Auburn
15. Kansas City Cheifs - Andrew Powell DT Mississippi State
16. New Jersey Jets - Quentin Groves DE Auburn
17. Minnesota Vikings - Nathan Bennett G - Clemson
18. New Orleans Saints - Kenny Chicoine, FS Cal Poly (1-AA)
19. Jaxsonville Jaguars - Gary Russell RB Minnesota
20. St. Louis Rams - Ben Patrick TE - Duke

21. Carolina Panthers -Chris Leak QB Florida
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Larry McSwain DE UCF
23. Dallas Cowboys - Daniel Inman- OT, Georgia
24. Denver Broncos - J. Lee Higgins WR Texas-El Paso
25. Seattle Seahawks - G,C (te,) Scott Chandler, TE Iowa
26. Baltimore Ravens - Justin Warren MLB Texas A&M
27. Atlanta Falcons - Clark Harris TE Rutgers
28. Raiders from/ Patriots - Zach Catanese SS Arizona State
29. New York Giants - Kevin McLee ILB West Virginia
30. San Diego Chargers - A.J. Davis CB North Carolina State
31. Chicago Bears - Alan Ball CB Illinois
32. Indianapolis Colts - Kelvin Smith ILB - Syracuse



The SIXTH Round 6
1. Arizona Cardinals - Selvin Young , Rb, Texas
2. Oakland Raiders - Jake Kuresa, g BYU
3. Detroit Lions - Leroy Harris, C North Carolina St.
4. Tennessee Titans - Willie Williams OLB - juco
5. GreenBay Packers - Matt Trannon WR/TE Michigan State
6. TampaBay Bucs - Frisner Nelson, DT/NG Central Florida
7. Houston Texans - Travarous Bain CB Hampton
8. Cleveland Browns - OT
9. Philadelphia Eagles - Mark Fenton- C, Colorado
10. Buffalo Bills - Kevin Brown DT - UCLA
11. Miami Dolphins - Kevin Kolb, QB Houston
12. Washington Redskins - Brandon Fields P Michigan State
13. Pittsburg Steelers - Marcus Foreman, OLB Baylor
14. California 49ers - Terrence Washington S Utah State
15. Kansas City Cheifs - Tim Castille FB Alabama
16. Cowboys from / Jets - Ryan Moore WR Miami (FL)
17. Minnesota Vikings - Tyler Palko, QB Pittsburgh
18. New Orleans Saints - Jonny Harline TE BYU
19. Jaxsonville Jaguars - C.J. Wilson CB Baylor
20. St. Louis Rams - Dallas Startz LB - USC
21. Carolina Panthers - Mike Walker WR Central Florida
22. Cincinatti Bengals - Erick Jackson, KR UNLV
23. Chiefs from/ Cowboys - Brian Robison DE Texas

24. Denver Broncos - Derek Landri DT Notre Dame
25. Seattle Seahawks - Stevie Hicks, RB Iowa St.
26. Baltimore Ravens - Jayson Swain WR Tennessee
27. Atlanta Falcons - Trent Edwards, QB Stanford
28. New England Patriots - Sabby Piscitelli, SS Oregon St.
29. New York Giants - Alex Obomese, OLB UTEP
30. San Diego Chargers - Alley Broussard, RB LSU
31. Chicago Bears - Matt Toeaina, DT Oregon
32. Titans from/Colts - J.D. Nelson FS Oregon

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88153&start=0

YoungTexanFan
11-29-2006, 04:56 PM
Man could I ever live with that draft. The best FS, CB, and C all in the same draft? That would be the draft of the decade IMO.

TexansSeminole
11-29-2006, 05:17 PM
Where did u get this mock from...they dont even have Tony Taylor as a draftee. That's just one player I checked to see where he was selected.

real
11-29-2006, 05:18 PM
Where did u get this mock from...they dont even have Tony Taylor as a draftee. That's just one player I checked to see where he was selected.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...=88153&start=0

kastofsna
11-29-2006, 06:46 PM
that'd be a pretty ridiculous draft for miami. posluzny and carriker? i'd faint. and kevin kolb in the 6th. that'll do.

threetoedpete
12-01-2006, 03:11 PM
That's a great effort TX. But again, and I think you're a little light on them, if the Texans don't grab the OLT prospect with the first pick...they're gone. Which means you're picking between starting the season with the grey beard out there once again or doing the free agent thingy again. What was the guys name Tucker ? Wade ? Bosselli ?


Liked the Texas Tech Center/Gaurd. And agian you hit all the needs. With out the OLT it's a bucket with a biiiiiig hole in it. JMHO. Ramerez's veristillity might push him into the second. Think depending on wich WR's declare, this will be an o-lineman draft.

dbspi
12-01-2006, 03:37 PM
Actually Gaither potential is way better then Thomas and Ferguson who was picked 4th last year. But as of this date we don't know if Gaither will declare for the draft or not. He is Junior at Maryland.

threetoedpete
12-01-2006, 03:44 PM
Bull Dung. Gaither is a Right Tackle currently playing right tackle. For all of his warts, Weigert is ok. Thomas IS the lock. You can't say that about the Maryland kid. He's good and he moves well. But no one knows for sure he can transition untill he does it. I know Eric will work his way into a legitamate nfl RT. I don't know I can post the same thing about Gaither at OLT. And...neither do you.

YoungTexanFan
12-01-2006, 05:58 PM
Bull Dung. Gaither is a Right Tackle currently playing right tackle. For all of his warts, Weigert is ok. Thomas IS the lock. You can't say that about the Maryland kid. He's good and he moves well. But no one knows for sure he can transition untill he does it. I know Eric will work his way into a legitamate nfl RT. I don't know I can post the same thing about Gaither at OLT. And...neither do you.

Gaither will be a studly LT and has been predicted to play LT in the NFL. He is a mamoth at 6'9 345ish but runs a sub 4.8

That is quick. He has long arms and didn't give up a sack to some of the absoluote best DE's in the ACC and the NFL. Winston will be our RT. I think Spencer will find himself at a OG post-injury and I don't think Gaither would have any trouble taking the starting job from him when he is/was healthy. You have to understand this, Gaither is the best LT prospect period. Thomas is more polished now, but Gaither will be better and has much more potential.

awtysst
12-01-2006, 06:28 PM
Gaither will be a studly LT and has been predicted to play LT in the NFL. He is a mamoth at 6'9 345ish but runs a sub 4.8

That is quick. He has long arms and didn't give up a sack to some of the absoluote best DE's in the ACC and the NFL. Winston will be our RT. I think Spencer will find himself at a OG post-injury and I don't think Gaither would have any trouble taking the starting job from him when he is/was healthy. You have to understand this, Gaither is the best LT prospect period. Thomas is more polished now, but Gaither will be better and has much more potential.

345lbs is a very big man. I am not too familair with him, but maybe you8 can shed some light on this. What kind of college system did he play in? My understanding of the Kubiack system is that you use lighter guys in order to emply different shifts. If that is correct, I am not sure if 345lbs would be considered "light" and I am wonder would he fit into the team philosophy? Now, I will grant you that Spencer is a big boy, I dont believe he is near 345.

Also, I was under the impression that Spencer would be the RT and Winston the OG. Has this changed?

Trap_Star
12-01-2006, 07:03 PM
Gaither will be a studly LT and has been predicted to play LT in the NFL. He is a mamoth at 6'9 345ish but runs a sub 4.8

That is quick. He has long arms and didn't give up a sack to some of the absoluote best DE's in the ACC and the NFL. Winston will be our RT. I think Spencer will find himself at a OG post-injury and I don't think Gaither would have any trouble taking the starting job from him when he is/was healthy. You have to understand this, Gaither is the best LT prospect period. Thomas is more polished now, but Gaither will be better and has much more potential.

Ive never seen the guy. Would u put him in the same catagory with Ogden/Pace?...

YoungTexanFan
12-01-2006, 07:20 PM
Ive never seen the guy. Would u put him in the same catagory with Ogden/Pace?...

Yes, I put him in the Pace/Elite catagoy. I rank him ahead of Gallery and D'brick.

YoungTexanFan
12-01-2006, 07:21 PM
345lbs is a very big man. I am not too familair with him, but maybe you8 can shed some light on this. What kind of college system did he play in? My understanding of the Kubiack system is that you use lighter guys in order to emply different shifts. If that is correct, I am not sure if 345lbs would be considered "light" and I am wonder would he fit into the team philosophy? Now, I will grant you that Spencer is a big boy, I dont believe he is near 345.

Also, I was under the impression that Spencer would be the RT and Winston the OG. Has this changed?

He is a mamoth but has sub 4.8 speed. That is a big guy moving really fast. He last long arms and is a mamoth in run blocking as well as not giving up any sacks while facing the best DE's in all of college.

beerlover
12-01-2006, 07:26 PM
taking offensive lineman early does not seem to be Kubiaks M.O. (we all know by now the snubs and pass overs). Guys that seem to excell right away are the ones taken by the better teams later in rd. 1. I'm guessing because those teams have a stronger supporting cast. Now while the Texans line is banged up, thin on depth and career over achievers (late picks) there is leadership and a closeness that takes time yet is developing. I'd almost bet they draft another lineman but not until the 3rd rd. again, if you think otherwise your just setting yourself up for dissapointment :crying:

YoungTexanFan
12-01-2006, 07:27 PM
Ive never seen the guy. Would u put him in the same catagory with Ogden/Pace?...

He is closer to Pace than any prospect since. D'brick was closer to an Ogden type. Gaither is like Pace. Dominant and HUGE while being super quick with long arms. Gaither will be better than Thomas, but Thomas is more polished from experience. Thomas is just tapping potential and has already dominated for 2 years.

YoungTexanFan
12-01-2006, 07:29 PM
taking offensive lineman early does not seem to be Kubiaks M.O. (we all know by now the snubs and pass overs). Guys that seem to excell right away are the ones taken by the better teams later in rd. 1. I'm guessing because those teams have a stronger supporting cast. Now while the Texans line is banged up, thin on depth and career over achievers (late picks) there is leadership and a closeness that takes time yet is developing. I'd almost bet they draft another lineman but not until the 3rd rd. again, if you think otherwise your just setting yourself up for dissapointment :crying:

I'm aware of this, and it does upset me, but our team still needs the dominate LT to help shore up our O-line. Anyone think the Jets are going to have a bad O-line in a year or so with D'brick and Mangold. There is no OC as good as Mangold, but Gaither is better than D'brick.

whiskeyrbl
12-01-2006, 10:55 PM
If Spencer cannot,or if at the time he looks doubtful to play next year there is no way we cannot seriously consider an OT in the first or second rd. I personally would like to LB,DB,RB,OL,DB,DT,K, but injuries and other factors will probably swing it in a whole other direction. And if you were wondering which RB I would like to see us get it is Kenny Irons out of Auburn.

AndreRulz
12-02-2006, 11:41 AM
If Spencer cannot,or if at the time he looks doubtful to play next year there is no way we cannot seriously consider an OT in the first or second rd. I personally would like to LB,DB,RB,OL,DB,DT,K, but injuries and other factors will probably swing it in a whole other direction. And if you were wondering which RB I would like to see us get it is Kenny Irons out of Auburn.

kenny irons has been banged up this year and I dont feel he has the thought processive to work in our offense or can find cutback lanes.

YoungTexanFan
12-02-2006, 11:47 AM
I like Darby and Bush as late first day backs.

AndreRulz
12-02-2006, 11:51 AM
I like Darby and Bush as late first day backs.

bush might slip a lot if he stills comes out (possible medical redshirt) and he wasnt that fast to begin with and with a broken leg woops, slower.

nunusguy
12-02-2006, 02:20 PM
If Spencer cannot,or if at the time he looks doubtful to play next year there is no way we cannot seriously consider an OT in the first or second rd.

Look for the Texans to take a OT on the first day, though maybe not the first
round.
Lot of uncertainty about Spencer, and that uncertain won't be resolved until
after next years Draft.
But Big Spence could play RT if we'd end up an outstanding LT prospect who
the team wants to leave there. Or Spence could just as easily play guard, the
position he played for a year in college before moving to OT

painekiller
12-03-2006, 08:03 AM
Gaither will be a studly LT and has been predicted to play LT in the NFL. He is a mamoth at 6'9 345ish but runs a sub 4.8

That is quick. He has long arms and didn't give up a sack to some of the absoluote best DE's in the ACC and the NFL. Winston will be our RT. I think Spencer will find himself at a OG post-injury and I don't think Gaither would have any trouble taking the starting job from him when he is/was healthy. You have to understand this, Gaither is the best LT prospect period. Thomas is more polished now, but Gaither will be better and has much more potential.

Also Gaither played LT last year and did not give up any sacks to some pretty big named prospects. He also has a 36" vertical leap, pretty impressive for a 345 lbs man child. I would not be upset if he is our 1st round pick, Spencer can be moved as well as Winston. That is a good problem to have in my mind.

I am hoping we go defense the entire 1st day, but a OLT in the 1st I could buy into. Also would not mind taking Brian Leonard in the 2nd. Still think the plan should be to concentrate on the defense.

threetoedpete
12-03-2006, 11:14 AM
He is closer to Pace than any prospect since. D'brick was closer to an Ogden type. Gaither is like Pace. Dominant and HUGE while being super quick with long arms. Gaither will be better than Thomas, but Thomas is more polished from experience. Thomas is just tapping potential and has already dominated for 2 years.

And this is where we part company on Gaither...for those who care. I've got him down as a monster RT prospect.....with a chance to make the transition to OLT. YTF has him a lock.
Noonne is a lock in my book untill I see them do it. He is anexcellent prospect. But that much money, you're paying for an OLT not a right tackle.

I dunno Beerlover. Offensive guy passing up the two offensive studly guys last year ? You may well be right. The hisorty of the thing (Denver) is deffinatly on your side. Historically Denver has never drafted o-lineman early. My thinking is this coach does what this coach think is best. Right now, I believe the biggest leak in our bucket is the 0-line. In our fifth year, we don't have an anchor yet. Not banging on our most steady o-lineman Pitts. I believe this coach is going out there this year...hold his water on the pretty guys...and draft the big ugly. We'll see. I have hope. Keep hope alive.

threetoedpete
12-03-2006, 11:17 AM
Also Gaither played LT last year and did not give up any sacks to some pretty big named prospects. He also has a 36" vertical leap, pretty impressive for a 345 lbs man child. I would not be upset if he is our 1st round pick, Spencer can be moved as well as Winston. That is a good problem to have in my mind.

I am hoping we go defense the entire 1st day, but a OLT in the 1st I could buy into. Also would not mind taking Brian Leonard in the 2nd. Still think the plan should be to concentrate on the defense.

I like Leonard alot. But whatching him the last three games...might want to see him run at the combine befor you spend a second on him. Might be a function of being banged up...I dunno...just saying.

rmartin65
12-03-2006, 01:46 PM
Leonard would be a good pick. He can block, run and catch. And our current fullbacks are not that great.

AndreRulz
12-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Leonard would be a good pick. He can block, run and catch. And our current fullbacks are not that great.

yes if we can get him in the 3rd round then yes

beerlover
12-04-2006, 10:33 AM
1. Detroit- Brady Quinn - QB, Notre Dame
2. Oakland- Calvin Johnson - WR, Georgia Tech
3. Arizona- Joe Thomas - OT, Wisconsin
4. Tampa Bay- Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Green Bay- Adrian Peterson - RB, Oklahoma
6. Washington-Gaines Adams - DE, Clemson
7. Cleveland- Jake Long - OT, Michigan
8. Pittsburgh- Leon Hall - CB Michigan
9. Houston- LaRon Landry - FS, LSU
10. Tennessee- Dwayne Jarrett - WR USC

Texian
12-04-2006, 04:42 PM
Early for 2007 draft late to this thread...

I think Texans will be looking at LaRon Landry with their #1 pic to shore up the weak secondary. Currently the weakest link on the team/defense. Unless of course Calvin falls to them. If not Landry maybe Michael Griffin with the 2nd RD pic. Micheal Bush would also be a good 2nd RD pick. Doug Free OT is a good possibility with the 3rd RD pic.

threetoedpete
12-05-2006, 12:11 AM
Just did a little re-checking...all the pronosticators have Landry rated around 12 to 18 now. Smells like a Babin pick to me @ 5-8. Just saying.

bah007
12-05-2006, 03:04 PM
1. Oakland- Calvin Johnson - WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit- Brady Quinn - QB, Notre Dame
3. Arizona- Joe Thomas - OT, Wisconsin
4. Tampa Bay- Alan Branch - DT, Michigan
5. Cleveland- Marshawn Lynch - HB, California
6. Washington- Gaines Adams - DE, Clemson
7. Houston- Leon Hall - CB, Michigan
8. Green Bay- Adrian Peterson - HB, Oklahoma
9. Buffalo- Dwayne Jarrett - WR, USC
10. San Francisco- LaMarr Woodley - DE, Michigan
11. St. Louis- Paul Posluszny - OLB, Penn St
12. Minnesota- Patrick Willis - MLB, Mississippi
13. Tennessee- Daymeion Hughes - CB, California
14. Pittsburgh- LaRon Landry - FS, LSU
15. Miami- Justin Blaylock - OG, Texas

Texian
12-05-2006, 05:02 PM
Actually Gaither potential is way better then Thomas and Ferguson who was picked 4th last year. But as of this date we don't know if Gaither will declare for the draft or not. He is Junior at Maryland.

I keep hearing all this talk about Gaither. He didn't even make 2nd team all acc. Also he was moved back to RT when Heyer returned from injury. I doubt he is coming out.

jjcorvallis
12-05-2006, 08:16 PM
1. Oakland- Calvin Johnson - WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit- Brady Quinn - QB, Notre Dame
3. Arizona- Joe Thomas - OT, Wisconsin
4. Tampa Bay- Alan Branch - DT, Michigan
5. Cleveland- Marshawn Lynch - HB, California
6. Washington- Gaines Adams - DE, Clemson
7. Houston- Leon Hall - CB, Michigan
8. Green Bay- Adrian Peterson - HB, Oklahoma
9. Buffalo- Dwayne Jarrett - WR, USC
10. San Francisco- LaMarr Woodley - DE, Michigan
11. St. Louis- Paul Posluszny - OLB, Penn St
12. Minnesota- Patrick Willis - MLB, Mississippi
13. Tennessee- Daymeion Hughes - CB, California
14. Pittsburgh- LaRon Landry - FS, LSU
15. Miami- Justin Blaylock - OG, Texas
Leon Hall will be a good pick but I really think we need to draft a O-lineman for the first pick. Carr desperately needs help and our runningbacks will develop if our line can open up some holes. But who's available?

bah007
12-05-2006, 08:18 PM
Leon Hall will be a good pick but I really think we need to draft a O-lineman for the first pick. Carr desperately needs help and our runningbacks will develop if our line can open up some holes. But who's available?

I actually put down Jake Long (Michigan) for that pick but I changed it to Hall cuz I thought that #7 would be reaching a little bit for him.

TexansSeminole
12-05-2006, 08:25 PM
Leon Hall will be a good pick but I really think we need to draft a O-lineman for the first pick. Carr desperately needs help and our runningbacks will develop if our line can open up some holes. But who's available?

IMO our O-line get beat as often as our secondary, in relation.

Ole Miss Texan
12-05-2006, 08:58 PM
I really think we need to go FS or OL with our 1st pick. I would support a trade down if we can get a partner. LaRon Landry and Reggie Nelson are the only two I think would be worth the pick but i dont know at 7. I also don't think the other OL prospects are a #7 pick either...Thomas yes but the others warrant a trade down. we have a lot of holes.

TexansSeminole
12-05-2006, 09:14 PM
I really think we need to go FS or OL with our 1st pick. I would support a trade down if we can get a partner. LaRon Landry and Reggie Nelson are the only two I think would be worth the pick but i dont know at 7. I also don't think the other OL prospects are a #7 pick either...Thomas yes but the others warrant a trade down. we have a lot of holes.

I'd take LaRon or Reggie with that seventh pick. It fits a serious need and isn't so far ahead of his projection where as it would be a reach, especially considering our need for a player at the position.

Joe Thomas isn't going to be available at seven, so we would have to go a different route. Is their any OL we could get there at good value? I'm not sure about that. It seems like we could do that in a later round. As for the FS position, if we passed on them here, there would be a significant dropoff of talent in the position by the next time we pick. This also would entice teams to grab a safety early so they are sure to get one causing most of the talented safeties to be taken in the first couple rounds.

I think Safety over OL would be a more sound decision at that seven spot.

YoungTexanFan
12-05-2006, 10:50 PM
I'd take LaRon or Reggie with that seventh pick. It fits a serious need and isn't so far ahead of his projection where as it would be a reach, especially considering our need for a player at the position.

Joe Thomas isn't going to be available at seven, so we would have to go a different route. Is their any OL we could get there at good value? I'm not sure about that. It seems like we could do that in a later round. As for the FS position, if we passed on them here, there would be a significant dropoff of talent in the position by the next time we pick. This also would entice teams to grab a safety early so they are sure to get one causing most of the talented safeties to be taken in the first couple rounds.

I think Safety over OL would be a more sound decision at that seven spot.


Safty is a huge need. 7 is a huge reach IMO for either FS prospect. Nelson will prove to be a better pro, but still doesn't warrent that pick. Once you get to like 12, then you can start to reach for that FS a bit IMO.

No, Thomas will not be around past #4. Gaither probally won't declare, which sucks, but eh, se la vi. That puts us into a quandry of uncertianty. Which OTs have the best chance to be value or even BPA at #7 overall if we are to assume our pick stands? The most physically gifted OT is probally not declaring, Thomas will be gone as well. Levi Brown is not worth the pick regardless of how you try to spin it. Sam Baker is like Winston Justice last year and is already starting his decent. Jake Long is overrated, but good. Not worth top 10 however. None of the players I pray Kubiak has targeted at this point are worthy of #7, and are too far a reach for justification. A true FS won't be available in the 2nd round, so it is then up to our GM to blindly guess with the help of his staff and prior history, as to how far we can safely trade down. We tried it once before, and the thought scares me some, because instead of DJ or Brown we landed TJ. We became arrogant and came up with grass in our helmets.

TexansSeminole
12-06-2006, 12:14 AM
None of the players I pray Kubiak has targeted at this point are worthy of #7, and are too far a reach for justification. A true FS won't be available in the 2nd round, so it is then up to our GM to blindly guess with the help of his staff and prior history, as to how far we can safely trade down. We tried it once before, and the thought scares me some, because instead of DJ or Brown we landed TJ. We became arrogant and came up with grass in our helmets.

That's what I am thinking. It is too difficult to trade and get who you want. If we picked at 7 I think we would have to reach on someone/overpay them. Honestly I predict Landry to go before the 11th selection, especially if Reggie Nelson does not declare.

kastofsna
12-06-2006, 07:32 AM
landry is really looking like a 10-20 guy at this point.

YoungTexanFan
12-06-2006, 07:53 AM
landry is really looking like a 10-20 guy at this point.

Landry will be a 20's guy if Nelson declares like his mom says he will. Landry is solid all around, but Nelson just gets the ball at all times. Ballhawk and playmaker.

mexican_texan
12-06-2006, 08:08 AM
Where does Michael Hart project right now?

bah007
12-06-2006, 09:34 AM
Where does Michael Hart project right now?

Probably between rounds 3-5 because of his size.

I would love to have him on the Texans.

I think he is gonna stay for his senior season tho.

mexican_texan
12-06-2006, 01:37 PM
That's what I thought about Calhoun last year. Kind of a dumb move to declare, if you ask me.

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 08:02 AM
1. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame.
2. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech.
3. Arizona - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin.
4. Tampa Bay - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska.
5. Green Bay - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC.
6. Washington - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona.
7. Houston - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh.
8. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma.
9. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State.
10. St. Louis - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson.
11. San Francisco - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida.
12. Miami - Sam Baker, T, USC.
13. Pittsburgh - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal.
14. Buffalo - Levi Brown, T, Penn State.
15. Tennessee - LaRon Landry, S, LSU.
16. Atlanta - Michael Griffin, S, Texas.

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 10:59 AM
1. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame.
2. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech.
3. Arizona - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin.
4. Tampa Bay - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska.
5. Green Bay - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC.
6. Washington - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona.
7. Houston - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh.
8. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma.
9. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State.
10. St. Louis - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson.
11. San Francisco - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida.
12. Miami - Sam Baker, T, USC.
13. Pittsburgh - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal.
14. Buffalo - Levi Brown, T, Penn State.
15. Tennessee - LaRon Landry, S, LSU.
16. Atlanta - Michael Griffin, S, Texas.


Your top 3 are pretty much how they should be, but you seem to have a man-crush on Carriker in past posts as well. He is not a top 5 player. He is a late first rounder at best. Awesome pick for us, Revis is the best man to man CB available and has good size and speed. I doubt Ginn goes to Minn w/the other WR from Troy they drafted. The rest could happen, though I don't see Brown grading out that high but I do think Buffalo is stupid enough to reach for him there.

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 11:07 AM
carriker is really good. aaaaaand im not the only one to think so. :) vikings fans seem to think they'll take a WR, and i have no reason to think otherwise.

beerlover
12-07-2006, 11:50 AM
Carriker @ #4 would be a HUGE REACH (only listed as the 4th best DE in the upcoming draft). Gaines Adams is the more likely pick should Tampa go DE :)

painekiller
12-07-2006, 11:59 AM
Carriker @ #4 would be a HUGE REACH (only listed as the 4th best DE in the upcoming draft). Gaines Adams is the more likely pick should Tampa go DE :)

Many 3-4 teams are looking at Adams to convert to OLB.

Most of the list I see have Carriker in the mid 20's, sorry even Buffalo doesn't reach that much. (referring to the reaches the Bills made in the last draft).

beerlover
12-07-2006, 12:14 PM
Tampa plays a 4-3 Gaines would be an excellent option @ DE. He has the size 6-5, 260 lbs NFL teams like in a pass rushing DE, would actually make a nice compliment to Mario Williams (teams would have two use double tightend sets to chip away the Texans ends). reminds me alot of Freeney, I can't see a team picking top 5 would PROJECT him to play a different position :twocents:

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 12:57 PM
you people must think the draft starts right after the season or something.

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 03:17 PM
you people must think the draft starts right after the season or something.

No, but I, along with pretty much every professional, just don't think he is good enough to leap Adams for top 5.

TexansSeminole
12-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Many 3-4 teams are looking at Adams to convert to OLB.

Most of the list I see have Carriker in the mid 20's, sorry even Buffalo doesn't reach that much. (referring to the reaches the Bills made in the last draft).

You can say that "reached" all you want. But Donte Whitner is having a great year.

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 05:46 PM
No, but I, along with pretty much every professional, just don't think he is good enough to leap Adams for top 5.
professional eh? get me some quotes please.

Cook Thom
12-07-2006, 05:53 PM
If available the Texans need to take Brady Quinn not a runningback. They can take a runningback in the second round. Can not continue to live with David Carr.

Texian
12-07-2006, 06:04 PM
you people must think the draft starts right after the season or something.

No, probably a little before the season ends, with Jrs announcing if they are staying or going. Then shortley after the pro bowl is the Combine followed by campus workouts. Yeah so the draft will be starting up here in the next couple of weeks. We have already had a couple of Jrs announcing they were coming out early.

Bubbajwp
12-07-2006, 07:03 PM
I thought the draft was last weekend.

Bubbajwp
12-07-2006, 07:05 PM
No, but I, along with pretty much every professional, just don't think he is good enough to leap Adams for top 5.

Stranger things have happend.

Bubbajwp
12-07-2006, 07:09 PM
Your top 3 are pretty much how they should be, but you seem to have a man-crush on Carriker in past posts as well. He is not a top 5 player. He is a late first rounder at best. Awesome pick for us, Revis is the best man to man CB available and has good size and speed. I doubt Ginn goes to Minn w/the other WR from Troy they drafted. The rest could happen, though I don't see Brown grading out that high but I do think Buffalo is stupid enough to reach for him there.

You have no room to talk about man crush's.

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 10:00 PM
You have no room to talk about man crush's.

meaning?

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 10:00 PM
professional eh? get me some quotes please.

Check any NFL draft site. Check with anyone you consider a professional. Any of that at all and you will get it.

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 10:03 PM
people who run draft sites are in no way a professional. they pretty much all have the exact same opinion. they just collect names and sort them out and occasionally form a different opinion on a player or two, but they don't know what they're talking about. they don't watch the amount of film any "professional" does, and if they did, i doubt they actually know what to look for. they see carriker's stats aren't too extraordinary. i don't care. i watch the games. i see defenses gameplanning around his abilities. he gets mario williams treatment. he's not as freaky athletically as williams, but his play is more impressive.

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 10:05 PM
people who run draft sites are in no way a professional. they pretty much all have the exact same opinion. they just collect names and sort them out and occasionally form a different opinion on a player or two, but they don't know what they're talking about. they don't watch the amount of film any "professional" does, and if they did, i doubt they actually know what to look for. they see carriker's stats aren't too extraordinary. i don't care. i watch the games. i see defenses gameplanning around his abilities. he gets mario williams treatment. he's not as freaky athletically as williams, but his play is more impressive.

I've watched him as well, and he does play well no doubt, but not top 5 well. Look at Kiper or anyone you consider a "professional". Look at their big board and tell me how many of them have him going top 32, then tell me how many have him top 5.

Bubbajwp
12-07-2006, 10:14 PM
meaning?

Jared Gaither

kastofsna
12-07-2006, 10:16 PM
i calls it like i sees it. i think carriker will be a top 10 pick come draft time. he's invited to the senior bowl, so i expect him to make an impact there as well as at the combine.

YoungTexanFan
12-07-2006, 10:20 PM
Jared Gaither

He's the best OT prospect in the Nation with the most upside. FootballsFuture agrees and I'm sure other do as well. Im sure some do not agree, but o well.

I like the guy, but think we will go elsewhere in the draft and I will be fine. By almost all accounts, Gaither is a top 10 pick however, Cariker is not a top 5 pick by any account I have seen yet.

Bubbajwp
12-07-2006, 10:25 PM
Not saying their is anything wrong with your man crush. Just saying that you have one.

Texian
12-07-2006, 10:48 PM
Yes he has a man crush, if he is a man, maybe an adolescent crush on Gaither, who didn't even make 2nd team ACC this year and was moved back to RT this year when LT, who made all ACC, returned from injury.

SF49erFaithful
12-08-2006, 02:02 AM
1. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame.
2. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech.
3. Arizona - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin.
4. Tampa Bay - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska.
5. Green Bay - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC.
6. Washington - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona.
7. Houston - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh.
8. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma.
9. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State.
10. St. Louis - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson.
11. San Francisco - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida.
12. Miami - Sam Baker, T, USC.
13. Pittsburgh - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal.
14. Buffalo - Levi Brown, T, Penn State.
15. Tennessee - LaRon Landry, S, LSU.
16. Atlanta - Michael Griffin, S, Texas.

EXCELLENT 49ers pick. :cool:

Bubbajwp
12-14-2006, 07:48 PM
i calls it like i sees it. i think carriker will be a top 10 pick come draft time. he's invited to the senior bowl, so i expect him to make an impact there as well as at the combine.

Not that this means anything but I thought you would like to see it.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/2006/12/carriker-enters-kipers-top-ten.html

Ryan
12-14-2006, 08:24 PM
i dont think we are at 3 and i dont think we will pick lynch..its either peterson or bush if we are talking about rbs

Bubbajwp
12-14-2006, 08:27 PM
i dont think we are at 3 and i dont think we will pick lynch..its either peterson or bush if we are talking about rbs

The mock your looking at is pretty old.

Ryan
12-14-2006, 08:29 PM
yeah i just noticed that

kastofsna
12-15-2006, 07:55 AM
1. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame - Detroit has a lot of issues, and while QB isn't an immediate need, they can't rely on Jon Kitna being the future of the franchise. Brady Quinn will hopefully make up for the Joey Harrington disaster. Prototypical passer with great success already in a pro-style offense. He's only going to get better.
2. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - While it's not clear whether Johnson will actually declare, I'm going to assume that he will at this moment. Oakland has a good young promising defense, but the offense has been miserable. Struck down by injuries, suspensions and laziness, the Raiders boast one of the worst-scoring offenses in the NFL. Randy Moss and Jerry Porter may play their last games in silver and black this year, so Oakland's receiving corps will be one of the worst in the league. Johnson is one of the finest WR prospects in a long long time. And actually has character, unlike Moss and Porter.
3. Tampa Bay - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin - The Bucs have the worst offense in the NFL. Last year, the Bucs invested a first and second rounder in the offensive line, drafting G David Joseph and T Jeremy Trueblood. Both solid players, but their place is on the right side of the line, and they will improve it drastically. However, Anthony Davis is not a franchise LT at all. Joe Thomas will not only set-up a wall for the QB's backside, but he's a mauler in the run game as well. The Bucs also need a lot of help on defense, especially on the d-line and in the secondary.
4. Arizona - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson - Arizona is the worst team in the league when it comes to putting pressure on the QB. They also have problems protecting the QB on offense. The game is played in the trenches. Adams is arguably the best DE in the draft and he'll make an impact immediately on Arizona's line. If the running game can get going, the Cards will be a dangerous team to fend with.
5. Houston - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU - Texans fans are pretty upset with passing on Vince Young. And Reggie Bush. However, Mario Williams will be a very good player, and you can't build a franchise overnight. Russell is going to skyrocket in this draft because let's face it, this just isn't a great draft for QB's. He'll have a great combine and pro day, impressing scouts with his rocket arm and good mobility. While not the natural leader as Young, Russell is more gifted physically. He's a big project, but Houston fans wil have something to look forward to.
6. Washington - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska - Another disappointing year for Washington. It appears you can't win a Super Bowl by spending tons of money on free agents and trading away all your draft picks. Time to work on that defense by upgrading the various positions with young players. Carriker is a power guy who commands a lot of attention from the opposition. He's not highly rated right now by scouts, but he'll have the Senior Bowl, where he won't be double-teamed, to show how good he is, plus the combine and workouts.
7. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma - Cleveland's offense is young and exciting, but they lack a game-changing runningback. Peterson is considered a steal to some here, and to others, a reach. The injury concerns are something to think about, but if he can stay healthy, he'll be an elite back in the league. But is Charlie Frye the future?
8. St. Louis - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida - Nelson has established himself as an elite player this year, being the MVP of the Gators' SEC champions' defense. He's around the ball at all times, he gets picks, he makes touchdowns...he's a playmaker in the ultimate sense of the word. St. Louis' defense is based almost entirely on Nelson's game, which is playmaking. Make a play on the ball in the air, get that fumble off the ground, etc.
9. San Francisco - LaRon Landry, S, LSU - A great young offense for San Francisco will be complimented nicely by a great defense. They've played a lot better as of late, but they still need work. Landry is a great talent and a great leader, and after Tony Parrish was cut, that's exactly what this secondary needs.
10. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal - If Brett Favre coming back? Is Aaron Rodgers the future? Either way, they need a RB. Ahman Green has been solid at times this year, but he's not the future and isn't reliable. Lynch is a gamebreaker. One cut and he's gone.
11. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State - Ginn has an exciting future. He's not polished right now at all, but if the Vikings can coach him up right, he'll be a gamechanger everytime he's on the field.
12. Carolina - Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Jake Delhomme has had a pretty poor year and deserves a lot of the blame for the Panthers' disappointing season. Troy Smith is a steal here IMO. A natural leader with a great arm and great improvisation skills, Smith will be a great player in the NFL. Sit him on the bench for a year.
13. Miami - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan - Miami has one of the best d-lines in the NFL, and maybe the best in team history, but the interior of the line is really really old. Well, so is the exterior, but that's besides the point. Branch can play the DE spot in the 3-4, too, swapping time with Kevin Carter and Matt Roth, as well as Vonnie Holliday, and he can play the nose if necessary, although he may be too big for that. Still, an athlete like this is great for depth at the very least, something Nick Saban loves.
14. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh - Not a great class at all for corners, but Revis appears to be the real deal. The Steelers take the hometown guy here over players like Antoine Cason and Leon Hall. Not a bad decision; Revis is a great athlete and playmaker.
15. Buffalo - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - Nate Clements could be gone in free agency, and even if he stays, they need another good corner behind him. Cason could very well be the best corner in this draft.
16. Tennessee - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan - Pacman Jones looks good, but Reynaldo Hill is flat-out awful. This draft pick gives Tennessee one of the finer young CB duos in the league.

mexican_texan
12-15-2006, 10:25 AM
kastofsna is my hero.

real
12-15-2006, 10:37 AM
If we draft Jamarcus with the number 5 overall, i will be really angry....

And I'm not sure Reggie Nelson is a top 10 guy...

beerlover
12-15-2006, 11:00 AM
when the owner says "we need to put more weapons around him" (David Carr) how would taking another QB with the 1st pick support that theory :rolleyes:

unless somehow Joe Thomas drops in the Texans lap you can start any Mock Draft with the Texans selecting http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2005/09-15/0915adrian_peterson_300.jpg

could one of you web masters impose the Texans uni over the OU jersey? thanks

threetoedpete
12-15-2006, 12:45 PM
If we draft Jamarcus with the number 5 overall, i will be really angry....

And I'm not sure Reggie Nelson is a top 10 guy...

I agree with this. But under this scenario...if the brownies would bite...why wouldn't you move down with this group on the board at the eight spot ? I mean are you all day guys saying the injury history is bogus and this guy is HOFer material as soon as he's picked ? Inquiring minds want to know.

But, if they moved down and Russel is on the board and your coach wants the guy....?
All I know that's a lot of tallent on the board after seven.


8. St. Louis - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida - Nelson has established himself as an elite player this year, being the MVP of the Gators' SEC champions' defense. He's around the ball at all times, he gets picks, he makes touchdowns...he's a playmaker in the ultimate sense of the word. St. Louis' defense is based almost entirely on Nelson's game, which is playmaking. Make a play on the ball in the air, get that fumble off the ground, etc.
9. San Francisco - LaRon Landry, S, LSU - A great young offense for San Francisco will be complimented nicely by a great defense. They've played a lot better as of late, but they still need work. Landry is a great talent and a great leader, and after Tony Parrish was cut, that's exactly what this secondary needs.
10. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal - If Brett Favre coming back? Is Aaron Rodgers the future? Either way, they need a RB. Ahman Green has been solid at times this year, but he's not the future and isn't reliable. Lynch is a gamebreaker. One cut and he's gone.
11. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State - Ginn has an exciting future. He's not polished right now at all, but if the Vikings can coach him up right, he'll be a gamechanger everytime he's on the field.
12. Carolina - Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Jake Delhomme has had a pretty poor year and deserves a lot of the blame for the Panthers' disappointing season. Troy Smith is a steal here IMO. A natural leader with a great arm and great improvisation skills, Smith will be a great player in the NFL. Sit him on the bench for a year.
13. Miami - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan - Miami has one of the best d-lines in the NFL, and maybe the best in team history, but the interior of the line is really really old. Well, so is the exterior, but that's besides the point. Branch can play the DE spot in the 3-4, too, swapping time with Kevin Carter and Matt Roth, as well as Vonnie Holliday, and he can play the nose if necessary, although he may be too big for that. Still, an athlete like this is great for depth at the very least, something Nick Saban loves.
14. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh - Not a great class at all for corners, but Revis appears to be the real deal. The Steelers take the hometown guy here over players like Antoine Cason and Leon Hall. Not a bad decision; Revis is a great athlete and playmaker.
15. Buffalo - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - Nate Clements could be gone in free agency, and even if he stays, they need another good corner behind him. Cason could very well be the best corner in this draft.
16. Tennessee - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan - Pacman Jones looks good, but Reynaldo Hill is flat-out awful. This draft pick gives Tennessee one of the finer young CB duos in the league.

kastofsna
12-18-2006, 10:17 AM
1. Detroit Lions - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame - seems like the top two picks are locks at this point. detroit needs a QB. the best one here at #1 is quinn. simple.
2. Oakland Raiders - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - porter and moss are most likely gone. who will be QB? who knows...
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin - the bucs have so many needs it's not funny. probably the most strapped team in the league going into offseason. they need a franchise tackle just as much as any other position.
4. Arizona Cardinals - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson - worst pass rush in the league. this will help.
5. Houston Texans - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU - most scouts look at him as a top 15 pick right now. with a good combine and workout, he'll go top 10 easily.
6. Cleveland Browns - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma - they need a running game, and it's hard to imagine peterson not giving the browns a huge spark on offense.
7. Washington Redskins - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska - i seem to be alone out there in liking this guy. and by "alone" i'm just referring to the national media and internet world, but scouts know what carriker brings to the table. unless they're IDIOTS.
8. Minnesota Vikings - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State - ginn has a lot of scary potential. he's not polished, but not every player in the draft is a polished gem.
9. Carolina Panthers - Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii - now this is fun. scouts love brennan. people say "what about the offense?" and while i agree with that, this is just going by what i hear from various people. i know mel kiper is in love with him. opposing coaches call him one of the best QB's they've ever seen. good size, great field vision, extremely accurate....they like him. i wouldn't touch a guy from that offense in the first round, but that's just me.
10. Miami Dolphins - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - miami has one of the top defenses in the league, but we really lack a shutdown corner. cason could very well be the best in this draft at his position, along with darrelle revis and maybe leon hall.

tulexan
12-18-2006, 11:41 AM
The Texans will not pick Jamarcus Russell with the 5th pick. They really don't have the time to completely start over and take a project QB. If (when) they decide to replace Carr they will get a veteran QB and draft an impact player like Adrian Peterson or Joe Thomas (someone who will make an immediate impact on the teams W's and L's from game one).

Ryan
12-18-2006, 01:06 PM
or russell will back up carr while he leads us to another great season.

Titan "Tack" Fan
12-18-2006, 02:00 PM
J Russell is awesome. He's a gunslinger who gets the job done and is GREAT in the clutch.

kastofsna
12-18-2006, 02:11 PM
he's average in the clutch. had some good games, had some bad games.

ATX
12-18-2006, 03:56 PM
1.) Detroit (2-12) Chi, @ Dallas (2-14)?

2.) Oakland (2-12) KC, @ NYJ (3-13)?

3.) Tampa (3-11) @ Cle, Sea (3-13)?

4.) Arizona (4-10) @ SF, @ SD (4-12)?

5.) Houston (4-10) Indy, Cle (4-12)?

6.) Cleveland (4-10) TB, @ Hou (5-11)?

7.) Washington (5-9) @ Stl, NYG (6-10)?

ericdoesntcare
12-19-2006, 05:58 AM
I think you meant Charles... but I understand what point you are making. I think Peterson will be better than Lynch. He is bigger, just as fast, and catches the ball well too.

threetoedpete
12-19-2006, 11:31 AM
The Texans will not pick Jamarcus Russell with the 5th pick. They really don't have the time to completely start over and take a project QB. If (when) they decide to replace Carr they will get a veteran QB and draft an impact player like Adrian Peterson or Joe Thomas (someone who will make an immediate impact on the teams W's and L's from game one).

What were you watching Sunday ? Inquiring minds want to know. They've got nothing but time at this point. DC & this team are a train wreck looking for a bad rail. Thomas is off the board by the third pick. Long and Baker are going back, acroding to the ESPN guys guess. Which means, this OLT class got real ordinary really fast.

Ryan
12-19-2006, 11:57 AM
i think the joe thomas ship has sailed...unless we trade up there is no chance of getting him IMHO

Bubbajwp
12-19-2006, 11:58 AM
i think the joe thomas ship has sailed...unless we trade up there is no chance of getting him IMHO

yep.

Titan "Tack" Fan
12-19-2006, 01:07 PM
he's average in the clutch. had some good games, had some bad games.

Bad in the clutch? Did you watch the Tennessee and Ole Miss games this year? We got screwed over against Auburn. If they would have called that pass interference penalty we'd deserve a shot at the national title. BCS is lucky they didn't call that penalty.

kastofsna
12-19-2006, 01:17 PM
Bad in the clutch? Did you watch the Tennessee and Ole Miss games this year? We got screwed over against Auburn. If they would have called that pass interference penalty we'd deserve a shot at the national title. BCS is lucky they didn't call that penalty.
he shouldn't have thrown that pass against auburn in the first place. ;)

jjcorvallis
12-19-2006, 02:16 PM
There is no way our front office will take a QB. In some reason they are in love with Carr and they believe Carr will be the FRANCHISE QUATERBACK, when he will lead the team to another losing season.

Oh, and don't expect them draft guys like Micheal Griffen, Aaron Ross, Kevin Kolb or other local guys from UH or UT. i don't know why but our front office don't like picking local guys.

4Texans
12-19-2006, 02:54 PM
What's the issue with the FO not likeing local/regional guys????????? I've heard this a couple of times on this site by different people. When the FO is refered to is it the Casserly FO, or the Kubiak/Smith FO, of McNair?????

kastofsna
03-30-2007, 10:59 AM
1. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame - Detroit has a lot of issues, and while QB isn't an immediate need, they can't rely on Jon Kitna being the future of the franchise. Brady Quinn will hopefully make up for the Joey Harrington disaster. Prototypical passer with great success already in a pro-style offense. He's only going to get better.
2. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - While it's not clear whether Johnson will actually declare, I'm going to assume that he will at this moment. Oakland has a good young promising defense, but the offense has been miserable. Struck down by injuries, suspensions and laziness, the Raiders boast one of the worst-scoring offenses in the NFL. Randy Moss and Jerry Porter may play their last games in silver and black this year, so Oakland's receiving corps will be one of the worst in the league. Johnson is one of the finest WR prospects in a long long time. And actually has character, unlike Moss and Porter.
3. Tampa Bay - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin - The Bucs have the worst offense in the NFL. Last year, the Bucs invested a first and second rounder in the offensive line, drafting G David Joseph and T Jeremy Trueblood. Both solid players, but their place is on the right side of the line, and they will improve it drastically. However, Anthony Davis is not a franchise LT at all. Joe Thomas will not only set-up a wall for the QB's backside, but he's a mauler in the run game as well. The Bucs also need a lot of help on defense, especially on the d-line and in the secondary.
4. Arizona - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson - Arizona is the worst team in the league when it comes to putting pressure on the QB. They also have problems protecting the QB on offense. The game is played in the trenches. Adams is arguably the best DE in the draft and he'll make an impact immediately on Arizona's line. If the running game can get going, the Cards will be a dangerous team to fend with.
5. Houston - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU - Texans fans are pretty upset with passing on Vince Young. And Reggie Bush. However, Mario Williams will be a very good player, and you can't build a franchise overnight. Russell is going to skyrocket in this draft because let's face it, this just isn't a great draft for QB's. He'll have a great combine and pro day, impressing scouts with his rocket arm and good mobility. While not the natural leader as Young, Russell is more gifted physically. He's a big project, but Houston fans wil have something to look forward to.
6. Washington - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska - Another disappointing year for Washington. It appears you can't win a Super Bowl by spending tons of money on free agents and trading away all your draft picks. Time to work on that defense by upgrading the various positions with young players. Carriker is a power guy who commands a lot of attention from the opposition. He's not highly rated right now by scouts, but he'll have the Senior Bowl, where he won't be double-teamed, to show how good he is, plus the combine and workouts.
7. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma - Cleveland's offense is young and exciting, but they lack a game-changing runningback. Peterson is considered a steal to some here, and to others, a reach. The injury concerns are something to think about, but if he can stay healthy, he'll be an elite back in the league. But is Charlie Frye the future?
8. St. Louis - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida - Nelson has established himself as an elite player this year, being the MVP of the Gators' SEC champions' defense. He's around the ball at all times, he gets picks, he makes touchdowns...he's a playmaker in the ultimate sense of the word. St. Louis' defense is based almost entirely on Nelson's game, which is playmaking. Make a play on the ball in the air, get that fumble off the ground, etc.
9. San Francisco - LaRon Landry, S, LSU - A great young offense for San Francisco will be complimented nicely by a great defense. They've played a lot better as of late, but they still need work. Landry is a great talent and a great leader, and after Tony Parrish was cut, that's exactly what this secondary needs.
10. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal - If Brett Favre coming back? Is Aaron Rodgers the future? Either way, they need a RB. Ahman Green has been solid at times this year, but he's not the future and isn't reliable. Lynch is a gamebreaker. One cut and he's gone.
11. Minnesota - Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State - Ginn has an exciting future. He's not polished right now at all, but if the Vikings can coach him up right, he'll be a gamechanger everytime he's on the field.
12. Carolina - Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Jake Delhomme has had a pretty poor year and deserves a lot of the blame for the Panthers' disappointing season. Troy Smith is a steal here IMO. A natural leader with a great arm and great improvisation skills, Smith will be a great player in the NFL. Sit him on the bench for a year.
13. Miami - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan - Miami has one of the best d-lines in the NFL, and maybe the best in team history, but the interior of the line is really really old. Well, so is the exterior, but that's besides the point. Branch can play the DE spot in the 3-4, too, swapping time with Kevin Carter and Matt Roth, as well as Vonnie Holliday, and he can play the nose if necessary, although he may be too big for that. Still, an athlete like this is great for depth at the very least, something Nick Saban loves.
14. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh - Not a great class at all for corners, but Revis appears to be the real deal. The Steelers take the hometown guy here over players like Antoine Cason and Leon Hall. Not a bad decision; Revis is a great athlete and playmaker.
15. Buffalo - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - Nate Clements could be gone in free agency, and even if he stays, they need another good corner behind him. Cason could very well be the best corner in this draft.
16. Tennessee - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan - Pacman Jones looks good, but Reynaldo Hill is flat-out awful. This draft pick gives Tennessee one of the finer young CB duos in the league.
before the move, i just want to brag that i thought jamarcus russell and adam carriker would go top 10 long before anyone else. thank you, and good night. ;)

Lucky
03-30-2007, 11:07 AM
before the move, i just want to brag that i thought jamarcus russell and adam carriker would go top 10 long before anyone else. thank you, and good night. ;)
Trumped by the fact that you thought Troy Smith would go #12.

bah007
03-30-2007, 11:08 AM
before the move, i just want to brag that i thought jamarcus russell and adam carriker would go top 10 long before anyone else. thank you, and good night. ;)

Yeah both good calls.

But you also had Troy Smith in the top 15 which looks very unlikely at this point.

threetoedpete
03-30-2007, 11:27 AM
before the move, i just want to brag that i thought jamarcus russell and adam carriker would go top 10 long before anyone else. thank you, and good night. ;)

I figured that's what you're doing. I saved coach dents most excellent zbs articles. So anyone saved one of those DC suxs twenty page monsters ?

kastofsna
03-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Trumped by the fact that you thought Troy Smith would go #12.
if i still had him at #12, then we'd be talking bout some serious trumping.