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ASTRODOME2002
10-06-2006, 04:21 AM
Perhaps the Texans passed on Reggie Bush knowing that Peterson would be available in next years draft. Peterson is a bigger and more durable back than Bush and should be able to carry the rock 15 to 20 times per game. Bush, on the other hand, is more of a pass receiver than a running back. Bush is looking more like Eric Metcalf every passing day.

thunderkyss
10-06-2006, 08:07 AM
Perhaps the Texans passed on Reggie Bush knowing that Peterson would be available in next years draft.

Perhaps they passed on Reggie thinking they had enough to trade up for Maroney/Williams??

just maybe.

Holden135
10-06-2006, 08:31 AM
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.

WiiBrawler
10-06-2006, 08:36 AM
Hopefully were not in a position to draft him:rolleyes:

YoungTexanFan
10-06-2006, 09:18 AM
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.

You obviously haven't watched him play or Ok. play.

He does not play a lot when the game is out of hand. He also has recorded recently a 4.3 40, and jumping onto a 36in. high box while holding a 45lb weight in each hand. Simply put, he is an athletic freak who's body is not "breaking down". He had an injury last year, he's over it. He is going to be good in the NFL. Not many rookie RB's have the ability to truely run over you or around you. He does.

Frills
10-06-2006, 09:40 AM
The injury bug from last year was a high ankle sprain which he kept trying to play through. At least he's willing to try to play versus a RB who won't play till he feels 100%...after being told his knee will never feel the way it once did

Mr teX
10-06-2006, 10:12 AM
I like AP but, #1 i don't think that we will be high enough to get him in the draft, #2 I do worry about the "tread on the tires" so to speak b/c he does take a pounding & #3 do you think that our coach would take him that high considering their position on drafting RB's?

Holden135
10-06-2006, 10:14 AM
You obviously haven't watched him play or Ok. play.

He does not play a lot when the game is out of hand. He also has recorded recently a 4.3 40, and jumping onto a 36in. high box while holding a 45lb weight in each hand. Simply put, he is an athletic freak who's body is not "breaking down". He had an injury last year, he's over it. He is going to be good in the NFL. Not many rookie RB's have the ability to truely run over you or around you. He does.

Im not saying he is breaking down now. I am saying he will break down early in his NFL career. D.D. didn't break down in college, but he sure is breaking down now. The more wear and tear on the players body the more it will affect him later down the road. I wouldn't like drafting a player with a top 3 pick (although i don't think we will have a pick that high) that has the wear and tear that Adrian does. He already had a significant shoulder injury his freshman year to go along with the ankle sprain from last year. Now he is in BIG 12 play. Even though it's not what it was 5 years ago, the teams still hate each other. He will have a target on his back for the rest of the season. I would put my money on the fact that he will have another injury this season that slows him down.

kastofsna
10-06-2006, 11:36 AM
peterson isn't a 4.3 guy, so don't even bother with that stat.

also, marshawn lynch is a better back.

TexansCanes
10-06-2006, 12:42 PM
peterson isn't a 4.3 guy, so don't even bother with that stat.

also, marshawn lynch is a better back.

AP finished second in the State in the 100m behind Ivory Williams with a 10.33 in 2003, so he has the speed. I wouldn't be suprised if he ran a high 4.3 but a low 4.4 is probably more realistic.

Huge
10-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.

I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?

Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:

1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player

BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:

rmartin65
10-06-2006, 02:17 PM
AP could be great. Look at his clips. He does everything a RB should do. Bush had the speed. Ap has speed and power.

kastofsna
10-06-2006, 05:25 PM
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.

I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?

Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:

1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player

BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:
runningback is probably the position player where speed matters the least. quick decision-making and reflexes are the most important. obviously you don't want a 4.9 guy out there, but a 4.3 guy or a 4.6 guy....whatever. as long as they know what to do.

Wolf
10-06-2006, 05:27 PM
don't tease me :drool:

HomeBred_Texan
10-06-2006, 05:42 PM
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.

That's just wrong. I don't get how you could even say this. Records are made by someone all the time and they are made to be broken. Because someone has a great college career, doesn't mean they have been rode hard and put up wet. That is like saying a QB that has record stats won't last long in the NFL because his arm will soon be tired from throwing so many passes in college. These are young kids who are athletic and have a God given talent. We do not pass on the chance to get someone with that gift...

Wolf
10-06-2006, 05:44 PM
Agreed.. I mean if that was the case why would Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne be still in the NFL... and heck..Tony Hollings (injury and all) ..well will leave that alone.

thunderkyss
10-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Agreed.. I mean if that was the case why would Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne be still in the NFL... and heck..Tony Hollings (injury and all) ..well will leave that alone.

funny thing about Ricky, he never so much had an ingrown toe-nail at UT. Come to the NFL, and his first three seasons are injury ridden...... prompting the 1st round selection of one DueceMcCallister.... who also all of a sudden has become injury plagued. I wonder if they figured out why they can't keep people behind their offensive line healthy.

I wonder why we can't keep anyone healthy behind our OLine.

nunusguy
10-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.
I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?
Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:
1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player
BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:
Bush, the SoCal girley-boy, couldn't run thru wrist tackles in 2 trys inside the
5 at NOLA in the big game vs Hotlanta to get a TD. Now I understand why
LenDale White was in the game and not Bush in that big play against the 'Horns in the Rose Bowl.
AD has missed a lot of games, but he takes a lot of abuse when he runs because he runs hard, somewhat remininsent of the "Tyler Rose".
Maroney is the man this year, a tremendous back who can run hard inside or
with speed and shiftiness off tackle. And I think he can also catch the ball.
He's doing in the NFL this year what Reggie Bush and his ESPN entourage had hoped Bush would do.

Wolf
10-06-2006, 06:13 PM
funny thing about Ricky, he never so much had an ingrown toe-nail at UT. Come to the NFL, and his first three seasons are injury ridden...... prompting the 1st round selection of one DueceMcCallister.... who also all of a sudden has become injury plagued. I wonder if they figured out why they can't keep people behind their offensive line healthy.

I wonder why we can't keep anyone healthy behind our OLine.

ricky or Cedric Benson?

Wolf
10-06-2006, 06:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rJ1xDBT1jM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOj9YvRnm90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4albC37Rg

Snapple
10-06-2006, 07:03 PM
I do not believe durability will be an issue with Peterson in the NFL.

I've also never heard of a team avoiding a RB in the NFL draft because he got too many carries in college. DeAngelo Williams got a billion carries in college, never got injured, and that HELPED his stock. It showed he was durable and a workhorse.

What Peterson does is made more impressive when you remember that most teams stack the box against him on nearly every play, and yet he still has plenty of big games.

I would not mind drafting Peterson. There's a reason guys like him go in the first round, and guys like Wali Lundy go in the sixth round. I know things almost worked out with Dom Davis, but now I think people tend to believe it's easy to get a starting RB late in the draft. It's not. And we're not going to be a good team until we get a running game.

Although we need a lot of other things, too. O-line, safety (coughLaRon Landrycough)...

infantrycak
10-06-2006, 08:15 PM
I know things almost worked out with Dom Davis, but now I think people tend to believe it's easy to get a starting RB late in the draft. It's not.

I wouldn't say easy, but certainly it happens with enough frequency outside of a top 10 pick to consider the cap ramifications of taking a RB that high:

Frank Gore-3rd
Tatum Bell-2nd
Julius Jones-2nd
Michael Turner-5th
Chris Brown-3rd
Clinton Portis-2nd
Brian Westbrook-3rd
Chester Taylor-6th
Lamont Jordan-2nd
Travis Henry-2nd
Rudi Johnson-4th
Maurice Drew-2nd
Jerious Norwood-3rd

TexansSeminole
10-06-2006, 08:41 PM
A few more...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQ1k7Mst9DU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ml3u3AxIMAU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2VX06qX4hH0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jPGfQjzcjkg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=thKGXV0zZMg

thunderkyss
10-06-2006, 10:26 PM
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??

thunderkyss
10-06-2006, 10:28 PM
ricky or Cedric Benson?

Ricky..... the bears didn't draft Duece after drafting Cedric.. I don't believe.........

HomeBred_Texan
10-07-2006, 06:17 AM
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??

And IF a frog had wings...

The point is, these guys are not going to rush for 1200 yds, so yes, we have to go for AP, period...

wicked_wayz
10-07-2006, 06:48 AM
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??

thats a big IF

thunderkyss
10-07-2006, 08:18 AM
And IF a frog had wings...

The point is, these guys are not going to rush for 1200 yds, so yes, we have to go for AP, period...

They are both perfectly capable of rushing for 1200 yds..... The Texans have not played their best Rushing game yet.

Bubbajwp
10-07-2006, 08:42 AM
They are both perfectly capable of rushing for 1200 yds..... The Texans have not played their best Rushing game yet.

Not at the same time. They would probably struggle to get those numbers if they didnt split time.

Holden135
10-07-2006, 09:22 AM
That's just wrong. I don't get how you could even say this. Records are made by someone all the time and they are made to be broken. Because someone has a great college career, doesn't mean they have been rode hard and put up wet. That is like saying a QB that has record stats won't last long in the NFL because his arm will soon be tired from throwing so many passes in college. These are young kids who are athletic and have a God given talent. We do not pass on the chance to get someone with that gift...

First of all a comparison between a qb and a rb as far as wear and tear is concerned is a completely different story. RB's take numerous hits, pretty much every down. With the rules now, a qb doesn't get hit all that hard (unless you are Trent Green). I never said Peterson will be worn out because he is having a good college career so stop putting words in my mouth. The fact is Peterson is averaging 29.25 carries per game this season. He had 339 carries in his freshman season which is just shy of 30 per start and he had 220 last season only because he was injured. He can't do this in the nfl without missing a few weeks each season. He won't be playing Baylor in the nfl. He will be getting hit harder and harder every time he touches the ball. Im not saying he wont have a few good seasons in the nfl. Im saying i wouldn't want the Texans to draft him because he will not be able to be a franchise player for the next 10 or so seasons.

ESAD2-14
10-07-2006, 11:45 AM
If we get a shot at drafting Adrian Peterson and we do not take it, then I would question the decisions of the FO. This past draft I was not sold on Bush. Looking at AP run, he makes RB look silly IMO. Alot of his (AP) runs are up the middle as well. Just wish he would have gone to UT instead though.

TexanSam
10-07-2006, 02:54 PM
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??

I'd be happy with a 100 yard rusher first. I don't think there's any chance either of them runs for 1200 and no chance of Lundy running for 700. I'll be happy if all 3 of them combined run for 1000 yards. We don't have a very good running attack and this game of musical running backs that we had to open the season probably didn't help much. I think we'll be in the running for a back next season whether it's via the draft or free agency.

Wolf
10-07-2006, 03:18 PM
He had a nice Kickoff return (not a TD) but was all the way to theTexas 40 (give or take some yards)

Wolf
10-07-2006, 03:42 PM
Kr return was 59 yards

he did fumble earlier.

He has a TD now

He showed a reason I like him.. earlier in the game a UT player didn't wrap up and Peterson churned forward for a couple of yards

hot pickle
10-07-2006, 04:44 PM
don't think we will draft adrian, hes a great RB, but DD will be back next season, and kubiak will get us a great RB, late in the first day of the draft, DB, or O-line is what we need

what about tarrel Brown, i know he had some problems early in the year, but hes a good CB that we could get mid-rounds

Blake
10-07-2006, 05:29 PM
I dont think you take AP even if you have the chance. We need more help on defense first, then the offensive line, and then maybe running back.

But I wouldnt mind being able to buy a #28 Adrian Peterson Texans Jersey.

thunderkyss
10-07-2006, 07:06 PM
I'd be happy with a 100 yard rusher first. I don't think there's any chance either of them runs for 1200 and no chance of Lundy running for 700. I'll be happy if all 3 of them combined run for 1000 yards. We don't have a very good running attack and this game of musical running backs that we had to open the season probably didn't help much. I think we'll be in the running for a back next season whether it's via the draft or free agency.

Then just wait. I gaurantee you we'll finish the season with close to 3000 rushing yards. & Lundy will definitely have 700 yards.

Wolf
10-07-2006, 07:12 PM
3000 yards?.. Pittsburgh led the league last season with 2546 yards with Denver at 2539

but we make the magical 3000?

FWIW atlanta had 2672 in 2004 followed by Pittsburgh with 2464

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-RUSHING/2004/regular?sort_col_1=7

WOW, just WOW

Wolf
10-07-2006, 07:14 PM
http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-RUSHING/2003/regular?sort_col_1=7

here is 2003
2674 by baltimore leading the pack

HomeBred_Texan
10-07-2006, 08:03 PM
I dont think you take AP even if you have the chance. We need more help on defense first, then the offensive line, and then maybe running back.

But I wouldnt mind being able to buy a #28 Adrian Peterson Texans Jersey.

Y'all have said that for 4 years now and look where we are..

Please, give me a break...

TexansSeminole
10-07-2006, 08:39 PM
First of all a comparison between a qb and a rb as far as wear and tear is concerned is a completely different story. RB's take numerous hits, pretty much every down. With the rules now, a qb doesn't get hit all that hard (unless you are Trent Green). I never said Peterson will be worn out because he is having a good college career so stop putting words in my mouth. The fact is Peterson is averaging 29.25 carries per game this season. He had 339 carries in his freshman season which is just shy of 30 per start and he had 220 last season only because he was injured. He can't do this in the nfl without missing a few weeks each season. He won't be playing Baylor in the nfl. He will be getting hit harder and harder every time he touches the ball. Im not saying he wont have a few good seasons in the nfl. Im saying i wouldn't want the Texans to draft him because he will not be able to be a franchise player for the next 10 or so seasons.

Looks like Adrian Peterson has pretty good durability to me, I dont know what your talking about here.

El Tejano
10-07-2006, 08:50 PM
This dude hits line faster than anyone on our team right now and he only begins to juke once he gets to the second level. This is the everydown back we need right now, you can't count on DD. If we get the opportunity to draft you gotta get this guy. Don't sell me the we need defense because you already did that and there is plenty of defensive talent in FA (DBs) and second round.

thunderkyss
10-07-2006, 09:00 PM
didn't he have like 81 yards in the first half??

109 total??

so that's like 28 yards in the second half.

Blake
10-07-2006, 09:22 PM
Y'all have said that for 4 years now and look where we are..

Please, give me a break...

So the Texans being a bad team is because we havent drafted a running back in the top 13 picks of the first round, or is it the fault of the Texans bad drafts top to bottom?

Give you a break? How about I give you a clue. Teams are built through the draft. Not by taking a running back with your number one pick.

If you are in the bottom of round 1, and are just trying to fill a hole for your playoff team so they can win the superbowl, then fine, get a running back. But if you are a team that drafts top 13 every year, you need more help than a first round running back can give you.

Now if you want to talk about a running back in round 2-3 then that sounds like a plan to me.

threetoedpete
10-07-2006, 11:01 PM
don't think we will draft adrian, hes a great RB, but DD will be back next season, and kubiak will get us a great RB, late in the first day of the draft, DB, or O-line is what we need

what about tarrel Brown, i know he had some problems early in the year, but hes a good CB that we could get mid-rounds

I like Terrel Brown. I'd like him a lot if we could get him early day two. Peterson strikes me as a faster Curtis Martin. I believe the Jets will do what it takes to grab him in the draft. Round peg inserted into the round hole.

Did anyone see the
Adam Gain's play in the Wake Forest game. Just a thought, and I do believe we should look at ol early, but that would be a heck of a tandem the next several seasons. Just a thought. That guy just willed a play and made it. I was impressed. Mario on one end and Gains on the other. Who do they double ?

http://cfn.scout.com/2/557854.html

HomeBred_Texan
10-08-2006, 06:25 AM
So the Texans being a bad team is because we havent drafted a running back in the top 13 picks of the first round, or is it the fault of the Texans bad drafts top to bottom?

Give you a break? How about I give you a clue. Teams are built through the draft. Not by taking a running back with your number one pick.

If you are in the bottom of round 1, and are just trying to fill a hole for your playoff team so they can win the superbowl, then fine, get a running back. But if you are a team that drafts top 13 every year, you need more help than a first round running back can give you.

Now if you want to talk about a running back in round 2-3 then that sounds like a plan to me.

Let's agree to disagree...

You make absolutely no sence at all...

Key position players are the marquee of the team and they come through the draft. Our running game has sucked from day 1. DD was never the answer and will never be the answer. We have 1 first round pick on O and a google load on D. Until we can OUTSCORE opponents, we will not be a winner... You do know the team with the most points after the game is the winner, right?

rmartin65
10-08-2006, 07:21 AM
didn't he have like 81 yards in the first half??

109 total??

so that's like 28 yards in the second half.

Yeah, but when teams are down they start passing instead of running.

sakebomb
10-08-2006, 08:06 AM
They are both perfectly capable of rushing for 1200 yds.....

They aren't even on pace for 1200 if you added all three of them together.

infantrycak
10-08-2006, 08:41 AM
LWe have 1 first round pick on O and a google load on D.

We have four--Carr, AJ and Moulds AND the cautionary tale of taking RB's high Ron Dayne.

sprtsfanatic
10-08-2006, 09:40 AM
Thunderkyss...what are you smoking??? all three of our backs combined wont get 2000 yds much less the 3100 your calling for...Our current backs (that get playing time) are horribly slow AND MISS EVERY HOLE THE O LINE OPENS UP FOR THEM...instead they run into their own linemans backs and end up smothering themselves at the line of scrimmage.

Step away from the Kool-aid, and take off the homer glasses.

dat_boy_yec
10-08-2006, 10:03 AM
We have four--Carr, AJ and Moulds AND the cautionary tale of taking RB's high Ron Dayne.

Mould's and Dayne weren't drafted or developed by us. True we have four 1st rd picks on the team, but only two of them were ours.

thunderkyss
10-08-2006, 11:56 AM
Yeah, but when teams are down they start passing instead of running.

actually, I got that wrong..... I've rewatched the game, and the yardage be-ing reported can't be right, because I think he's got like 45+ yards in the second half. Definitely contained by that Texas O, other than the big TD run.

They aren't even on pace for 1200 if you added all three of them together.

As a team, we have not played our best football, not even close. Rewatching the games, you can see alot of little areas that need to be corrected. I'm talking tweeks. I've got confidence that Kubiaks will do the right things, fix our little problems.

Andre is going to have a monster year, Moulds, Walters, Owen....... I was wrong earlier, but now, I can easily see David getting his first 300 yard game in the next two weeks. He's going to finish the year knocking on 4000 yards.

Those 5 yard gains you see Dayne getting, they'll be 15s & 20 soon, and those 12, 14 & 17 yard gains are going to be 45, 65 & so on.....

Get your popcorn Ready Houston, that show everybody is looking for is going to be coming out of Houston, not Dallas.

Thunderkyss...what are you smoking??? all three of our backs combined wont get 2000 yds much less the 3100 your calling for...Our current backs (that get playing time) are horribly slow AND MISS EVERY HOLE THE O LINE OPENS UP FOR THEM...instead they run into their own linemans backs and end up smothering themselves at the line of scrimmage.

Step away from the Kool-aid, and take off the homer glasses.

Hard to believe, I understand.. but it's coming.... it's coming.

TheOgre
10-08-2006, 11:59 AM
Perhaps they passed on Reggie thinking they had enough to trade up for Maroney/Williams??

just maybe.

They wanted Maroney. We had a trade in place if he had fallen 1-2 more slots.

infantrycak
10-08-2006, 01:58 PM
They wanted Maroney. We had a trade in place if he had fallen 1-2 more slots.

It was for DeAngelo Williams. The trade they were working on was with the Bears at 26--Maroney was gone at 21. Buffalo swooped in with a better offer and then Carolina took him next.

Wolf
10-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Tk, I like your enthusiasm, but last 3 years the most yard a team has rushed for is in the 2500-2600 range.. I can't imagine us breaking the 3000 yard barrier

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-RUSHING/2003/regular?sort_col_1=7&_1:col_1=5
http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-RUSHING/2004/regular?sort_col_1=7

dat_boy_yec
10-08-2006, 10:19 PM
What do you guys think of Marshawn Lynch?

dat_boy_yec
10-08-2006, 10:28 PM
For whoever might not have seen Lynch before I found this vid.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=agiNBv_cl5o

Guy looks real good and might be there when we pick more than likely.

YoungTexanFan
10-08-2006, 10:28 PM
He was overhyped going into the season, but I haven't had much chance to watch him at all this year. He is a big guy with good speed and vision, but a step below Peterson and Slayton.

TexansSeminole
10-08-2006, 10:33 PM
What do you guys think of Marshawn Lynch?

Seems adequete. I dont think he is anything special

TFL
10-08-2006, 10:36 PM
What do yall about Garret Wolf?

thunderkyss
10-08-2006, 10:37 PM
What do yall about Garret Wolf?

I heard yesterday they(ESPN) said he was the next BarrySanders.

TexanSam
10-09-2006, 12:08 AM
I heard yesterday they(ESPN) said he was the next BarrySanders.

He's 5'7 and 177 lbs. I know there's a lot of small running backs and the way this guy has played he probably is good enough to play in the NFL, but there's still a doubt in my mind if he's big enough. There's plenty of 5'8, 5'9 guys who have had success, but 5'7 would make me somewhat iffy on his pro potential.

YoungTexanFan
10-09-2006, 12:18 AM
He's 5'7 and 177 lbs. I know there's a lot of small running backs and the way this guy has played he probably is good enough to play in the NFL, but there's still a doubt in my mind if he's big enough. There's plenty of 5'8, 5'9 guys who have had success, but 5'7 would make me somewhat iffy on his pro potential.

An extra inch won't make a RB any better than his counte-part. It is their running style at that size that seperates them. It is more of a mental thing than physical thing.

Huge
10-09-2006, 07:55 PM
5'7, 215 (Barry Sanders) is one thing. 5'7, 177 is another.

Height should never be a concern for a RB.

dat_boy_yec
10-09-2006, 10:10 PM
He was overhyped going into the season, but I haven't had much chance to watch him at all this year. He is a big guy with good speed and vision, but a step below Peterson and Slayton.

Slayton? As in Marcus Slayton? From Georgetown Hoyas. Sorry, I thought he was a senior this last yr. If your talking about someone else, who, I'd like to see whoever Slayton is, if he's better than Lynch.

kastofsna
10-09-2006, 10:34 PM
wolfe is darren sproles at best...

marshawn lynch > peterson

Titan "Tack" Fan
10-09-2006, 11:18 PM
I hope to see AP in a Titans uniform. . . Or Calvin Johnson. That's all I want for Christmas.

TexanSam
10-09-2006, 11:23 PM
I hope to see AP in a Titans uniform. . . Or Calvin Johnson. That's all I want for Christmas.

Good RBs seem to be everywhere. Dominant WRs aren't always there. Calvin Johnson is a beast. I would take him over Adrian Peterson.

TexansSeminole
10-10-2006, 12:37 AM
marshawn lynch > peterson

Adrian Peterson is the best RB in the nation as far as NCAA and the draft IMO.

Adrian Peterson racked up 3000 yards and 29 TDs in his first two years at Oklahoma. He has 8 rushing TDs this season. He is looking to have over 1700 yards this season. He carries his team weak in and weak out.

Marshawn Lynch had 2000 yards in his first two years at California with 20 TDs. He has 4 TDs this season, but also has 3 receiving TDs. He is looking to have 1200 yards this season if not better.

Marshawn Lynch is a good prospect and a good runner (he has a 7.3 yards career average YPC) dont get me wrong.

threetoedpete
10-10-2006, 05:58 AM
I hope to see AP in a Titans uniform. . . Or Calvin Johnson. That's all I want for Christmas.


What ? Already given up on Lendale "Pass me another Biscuit"
White. Well acording to some, That'll give CJ a leg up on Jerry Rice. Just October but that makes sense to me. Now whether or not VY will ever be accurate enough to justify taking an elite reciever that high...we'll see. nice game this week by the way. Losing Fischer is going to sting. The guy can flat out coach.

HomeBred_Texan
10-10-2006, 08:01 AM
Good RBs seem to be everywhere. Dominant WRs aren't always there. Calvin Johnson is a beast. I would take him over Adrian Peterson.

While I agree with this, 2 WR's won't be there when we pick... Johnson and Ginn will be long gone alone with a QB...

Huge
10-10-2006, 12:40 PM
wolfe is darren sproles at best...

marshawn lynch > peterson
I think Lynch gets the benefit of torching PAC-10 defenses week in and week out. Much like his predecessor JJ Arrington did before him. Look how he's turned out so far.

I think Lynch is a decent RB but no way I'd put him over Peterson.

kastofsna
10-10-2006, 01:10 PM
I think Lynch gets the benefit of torching PAC-10 defenses week in and week out. Much like his predecessor JJ Arrington did before him. Look how he's turned out so far.

I think Lynch is a decent RB but no way I'd put him over Peterson.
i don't know either players numbers, i just go by what i see. and i thought (as a lot of people did) that lynch was WAY better than arrington when they were on the team together. he has unreal explosion.

big 12 defenses aren't anything to be proud of either, while we're talking about that. how did peterson do against oregon's defense last year? ;) it's moot.

Holden135
10-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Looks like Adrian Peterson has pretty good durability to me, I dont know what your talking about here.

Injured every year he has been in college. Not yet this year but just wait. Thats what im talking about.

dbspi
10-10-2006, 07:54 PM
While we are discussing running backs, how do you all feel about Michael Bush next year? I know he is injured this year with ACL but he might be available in the draft next year.

I haven't seen him play much but I have heard so much about him. Is there any chance he might be available to us in the second round of the draft.

How does Michael Bush compares to Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, or some other back.

Where would Michael Bush have been projected in the draft if he wasn't injured this year?

How would he look in Texans back field next year.

Huge
10-10-2006, 07:56 PM
i don't know either players numbers, i just go by what i see. and i thought (as a lot of people did) that lynch was WAY better than arrington when they were on the team together. he has unreal explosion.
Arrington went for over 2,000 rushing his senior season.

Everybody went goo-goo over Lynch because he averaged almost 9 yards a pop as a freshman. So they automatically assumed that he was better than Arrington. These are probably the same people that though Frank Gore was a better RB than Willis McGahee because Gore also averaged almost 9 yards a pop as a freshman while McGahee was closing in on 1,900 for the season with 25+ TDs.

big 12 defenses aren't anything to be proud of either, while we're talking about that. how did peterson do against oregon's defense last year? ;) it's moot.
They're still leaps and bounds ahead of what the PAC-10 has.

Peterson vs Oregon:
2004 - 183 yards
2005 - 84 yards
2006 - 211 yards

kastofsna
10-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Arrington went for over 2,000 rushing his senior season.

Everybody went goo-goo over Lynch because he averaged almost 9 yards a pop as a freshman. So they automatically assumed that he was better than Arrington. These are probably the same people that though Frank Gore was a better RB than Willis McGahee because Gore also averaged almost 9 yards a pop as a freshman while McGahee was closing in on 1,900 for the season with 25+ TDs.
i know arrington topped the 2000 yard mark. didn't know about lynch's stats. i watched the two, and arrington was always a vey simple troy hambrickish kinda guy. doesn't surprise me that arrington got the yardage, pretty much any back in tedford's offense has put up big yards in college.

and look who's leading the league in rushing these days? frank gore (mcgahee is 3rd)! he very well could've had a better career at miami if not for those drastic knee injuries.

also, a little clarification, gore's freshman season was in relief of clinton portis. gore blew his knee out in spring after portis left for the NFL, and that's when mcgahee took over.

Huge
10-10-2006, 09:40 PM
i know arrington topped the 2000 yard mark. didn't know about lynch's stats. i watched the two, and arrington was always a vey simple troy hambrickish kinda guy. doesn't surprise me that arrington got the yardage, pretty much any back in tedford's offense has put up big yards in college.
Lynch - 1,294 last season in 10 games.
and look who's leading the league in rushing these days? frank gore (mcgahee is 3rd)! he very well could've had a better career at miami if not for those drastic knee injuries.
Does that make Gore the best RB in the league? I'm aware he's a good RB (he's making me look like a genius in my fantasy league). But I'm not about to put him ahead of McGahee.
also, a little clarification, gore's freshman season was in relief of clinton portis. gore blew his knee out in spring after portis left for the NFL, and that's when mcgahee took over.
And when Gore came back, people were saying he should start over McGahee because of the 9 ypc he averaged in relief of Portis as a freshman.

kastofsna
10-10-2006, 10:03 PM
Does that make Gore the best RB in the league? I'm aware he's a good RB (he's making me look like a genius in my fantasy league). But I'm not about to put him ahead of McGahee.
me neither. but the numbers are there. he's having an awesome 2nd year (after an awesome rookie year) behind a bad line. and i drafted him in the 2nd round of my fantasy draft. boy, people really made fun of me then.

And when Gore came back, people were saying he should start over McGahee because of the 9 ypc he averaged in relief of Portis as a freshman.
when gore came back, mcgahee had bolted for the NFL following his horrible knee injury.