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BattleRedToro
10-02-2006, 08:30 PM
I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early?

Blake
10-02-2006, 08:41 PM
Im sure he will come out this year. No doubt.

Are you hoping for him to be a Texan? I still think we need defensive help. Safety, and OLB are problems IMO.

1. LaRon Landry L.S.U. 6-2 202 4.50
2. Brandon Meriweather Miami (FL) 6-0 195 4.45
3. Michael Griffin Texas 6-0 205

kastofsna
10-02-2006, 09:36 PM
ginn is still extremely raw. just a speed guy at this point, in terms of NFL projection.
1. LaRon Landry L.S.U. 6-2 202 4.50
2. Brandon Meriweather Miami (FL) 6-0 195 4.45
3. Michael Griffin Texas 6-0 205
i'd take anthony redick over all three of these guys. ;) too bad he's not coming out.

mexican_texan
10-02-2006, 09:38 PM
I want Ginn to stay another year so that we can say he's just Moulds' replacement...like that's gonna happen...

Trap_Star
10-02-2006, 09:48 PM
ginn is still extremely raw. just a speed guy at this point, in terms of NFL projection.

i'd take anthony redick over all three of these guys. ;) too bad he's not coming out.

I'd take Kenny Phillips over Reddick...:)

kastofsna
10-02-2006, 09:56 PM
I'd take Kenny Phillips over Reddick...:)
they'll both be top 10 picks next year. which is the most absurd thing ever.

kastofsna
10-02-2006, 10:06 PM
If there is a bonafide OL available when we pick in the first round next year I wouldn't be suprised if the Texans go with him.
joe thomas is better than d'brickashaw ferguson. if you get the chance, you take him, i don't care what team you are. unless of course you have a shot at brady quinn or calvin johnson, MAYBE. other than, you take thomas, period.

one of the reasons i almost kinda hope miami keeps playing the way we are.

Trap_Star
10-02-2006, 10:08 PM
I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early?

He's a slimmer Devin Hester. I dunno about him in the NFL as a WR. At 170 pounds, he'd get killed by a Sean Taylor. He needs to be a cb IMO, like a Samari Rolle type....

gtexan02
10-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Calvin Johnson looks better imo. He has the speed plus rediculous size

hot pickle
10-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Calvin Johnson looks better imo. He has the speed plus rediculous size

and amazing hand stregth
i love calvin johnson

Trap_Star
10-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Well if we added him we could have Johnson & Johnson. :redtowel:

That'd be sweet...:redtowel:

Trap_Star
10-02-2006, 10:41 PM
I know he is 170 now but couldn't he add some weight. I'm sure he would lose some speed in the process but it looks like he has plenty to spare.

I dont think he can add very much. He has a small frame. Listed at 170, but i would'nt be surprised if he's really 160-165..:wild:

TexansSeminole
10-02-2006, 11:49 PM
I know he is 170 now but couldn't he add some weight. I'm sure he would lose some speed in the process but it looks like he has plenty to spare.

No No NEVER DO THIS. That's what defines him as a player. I would give Calvin Johnson the nod over Ted Ginn Jr. but in my opinion, you can't really go wrong with either guys. It just depends on what you need. I wouldn'tt mind having a fast slot guy to take passes the distance on the Texans, but maybe that's what Mathis is. Calvin Johnson looks alot like Andre Johnson did in college, maybe even better.

kastofsna
10-03-2006, 07:53 AM
andre johnson is definitely faster than calvin johnson. he was more of a deep burner than calvin. say what you want about calvin johnson having 4.3 speed or whatever, but he's still used primarily as a possession receiver. calvin has better hands without a doubt, and fights for the ball much better. overall, calvin is the better prospect. and i thought andre johnson was the #1 player in that draft. but i tend to think that about most guys from the U.

YoungTexanFan
10-03-2006, 04:37 PM
andre johnson is definitely faster than calvin johnson. he was more of a deep burner than calvin. say what you want about calvin johnson having 4.3 speed or whatever, but he's still used primarily as a possession receiver. calvin has better hands without a doubt, and fights for the ball much better. overall, calvin is the better prospect. and i thought andre johnson was the #1 player in that draft. but i tend to think that about most guys from the U.

You thought he was a better prospect that Carson Palmer?

Also, Charles Rogers was just as good of a prospect but had much better hands. He failed for a few reasons, most notably detroit, injuries, drugs, and apathy.

YoungTexanFan
10-03-2006, 04:39 PM
But back to the topic at hand.

Ginn Jr. is nothing to be excited about if you are a Texans fan. He is a much more hyped Mathis. He can turn a little quicker, but the speed and vision is the same. If you watch Ginn run routes, it is sloppy. His hands are iffy as well. He is a glorified KR IMO. I do not see him with a future at WR. I would not pick him unless he fell to the 2nd round.

real
10-03-2006, 04:42 PM
But back to the topic at hand.

Ginn Jr. is nothing to be excited about if you are a Texans fan. He is a much more hyped Mathis. He can turn a little quicker, but the speed and vision is the same. If you watch Ginn run routes, it is sloppy. His hands are iffy as well. He is a glorified KR IMO. I do not see him with a future at WR. I would not pick him unless he fell to the 2nd round.

Yeah..I am not too fond of him either....He is fast....:mario:

TexansSeminole
10-03-2006, 04:53 PM
Yea, kinda reminds me of Bethel Johnson.

real
10-03-2006, 04:58 PM
Yea, kinda reminds me of Bethel Johnson.

The reason you never hear about some of the better players in college is because of guys like Ginn...People are addicted to speed and sometimes forget it takes more than a 4.3 to actually be a good player on Sunday...Ginn will probably go in the first due to hype....

YoungTexanFan
10-03-2006, 05:03 PM
The reason you never hear about some of the better players in college is because of guys like Ginn...People are addicted to speed and sometimes forget it takes more than a 4.3 to actually be a good player on Sunday...Ginn will probably go in the first due to hype....

Yeah. He and Troy Smith are both WAY overhyped. I still think the best QB on athletic ability alone is JaMarcus Russle.

real
10-03-2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah. He and Troy Smith are both WAY overhyped. I still think the best QB on athletic ability alone is JaMarcus Russle.

I haven't seen Russle play but Im dying to see them play Florida...I like the Gators alot....I have heard a lot of good things about him though...I look forward to seeing him and Landry...

And yeah I think Troy Smith is a tad bit over hyped....I also think Quinn is overhyped honestly...

rmartin65
10-03-2006, 05:17 PM
I dont really like Ginn. He is fast, but like others have said he is small. Also, in his first two years he had something like 6 TD's recieving. Thats only 3 a year. This year he has done better, but he is being targeted like none other. Maybe Calvin Johnson.

kastofsna
10-04-2006, 09:06 AM
You thought he was a better prospect that Carson Palmer?

Also, Charles Rogers was just as good of a prospect but had much better hands. He failed for a few reasons, most notably detroit, injuries, drugs, and apathy.
yeah i did. it wasn't a knock against palmer, i just really liked andre johnson (and still do).

and i was never that high on rogers. johnson was clearly the better prospect, just for his obvious size advantage and more physical play, combined with the great speed. rogers was labeled "soft" from the getgo and it showed in the pros, as well as his general lack of interest in the game. 2 years ago i called that he'd be out of the league in....2 years. i'm so smart!!!

kastofsna
10-04-2006, 09:08 AM
Yeah. He and Troy Smith are both WAY overhyped. I still think the best QB on athletic ability alone is JaMarcus Russle.
russell is huge and has a cannon, but he's still a ways off from being a good QB. it's amazing how many guys that have huge arms try to force everything.

Vinny
10-04-2006, 09:09 AM
Yeah. He and Troy Smith are both WAY overhyped. I still think the best QB on athletic ability alone is JaMarcus Russle. I can't take this anymore since I am a Russell....it's JaMarcus RUSSELL, not Russle. I've seen my name butchered too often lately. The madness must end!

TexansCanes
10-04-2006, 04:46 PM
russell is huge and has a cannon, but he's still a ways off from being a good QB. it's amazing how many guys that have huge arms try to force everything.

After watching him this season that is one of the things has greatly improved upon and i think why he is the number 2 rated passer in the nation (also because we havne't played anyone outside of auburn). the last two years he would just bullet every think and the wr couldn't hang on sometimes. I expect a huge game on saturday especially because the running game is non-existant right now.

TexansSeminole
10-04-2006, 05:09 PM
I haven't seen Russle play but Im dying to see them play Florida...I like the Gators alot....I have heard a lot of good things about him though...I look forward to seeing him and Landry...

And yeah I think Troy Smith is a tad bit over hyped....I also think Quinn is overhyped honestly...

You went to F a&M in tally and u like the gators? YOU TRAITOR.

Titan "Tack" Fan
10-04-2006, 05:15 PM
I just watched some highlights of this guy on YouTube, and it was unbelievable. I think he is atleast as good as Reggie Bush and he looks taller with a long lean build. He has just blazing speed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like someone had Fast Forward on him while everyone else was moving at normal speed. Has there been any talk of this guy coming out of college early?

Just because he is as fast as Reggie Bush, doesn't mean he's as good. Reggie Bush average 10 Yards every time he touched the ball.

YoungTexanFan
10-04-2006, 05:33 PM
I can't take this anymore since I am a Russell....it's JaMarcus RUSSELL, not Russle. I've seen my name butchered too often lately. The madness must end!

haha, sorry vinny.

real
10-04-2006, 05:43 PM
You went to F a&M in tally and u like the gators? YOU TRAITOR.

LMAO!!! I went to FAMU one year.....I don't consider myself to have any allegiance to that school...still have some friends there....But I Cant stand the school.....

When we played Florida I just fell in love with the atmosphere.....

kastofsna
10-04-2006, 07:31 PM
Reggie Bush played in the Pac-10. Do I need to say anymore?
lots of guys did and ended up just fine in the NFL.

kastofsna
10-04-2006, 09:01 PM
the level of competition argument is used too much. you grade the player, not the player's opponents.

kastofsna
10-04-2006, 09:23 PM
Oh really? Level of competition doesn't matter? Ok grade me on my outstanding perfomance as I run a race against a man in a wheelchair, a man with severe autism, a man with cerebral palsey and a dwarf. Oh look I must be ready for the Olympics since I toasted them. Of course level of competition matters. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
horrible analogy, but okay.

it doesn't matter when you're grading a prospect. at least not as much as one might think. especially with D1 players. ESPECIALLY a runningback, which is a pretty simple position to grade. either they can find the holes and make the cuts or not, etc.

Trap_Star
10-04-2006, 09:33 PM
Oh really? Level of competition doesn't matter? Ok grade me on my outstanding perfomance as I run a race against a man in a wheelchair, a man with severe autism, a man with cerebral palsey and a dwarf. Oh look I must be ready for the Olympics since I toasted them. Of course level of competition matters. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

IS THAT YOU, KNOXVILLE???????

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threetoedpete
10-05-2006, 11:59 PM
I haven't seen Russle play but Im dying to see them play Florida...I like the Gators alot....I have heard a lot of good things about him though...I look forward to seeing him and Landry...

And yeah I think Troy Smith is a tad bit over hyped....I also think Quinn is overhyped honestly...

Just a random thought I had the other day. Espn came off the other night at the reopening of the Super Dome as the big caring sports channel. Wraped themselves in a wallowing of love for the victims of Katrina. Aty ESPN we gotta heart, and we care. But the fact is in our market, the Market with the most Katrina victims (160k by last count) in it, the katrina victims hurt most by the storm, every game so far has been pay per veiw. Nice espn. Just goes to show what slim balls you truly are. Wanna see the bayou bengals gotta pay up. Blood sucking, slim balls.

Huge
10-06-2006, 01:22 PM
Ted Ginn = Desmond Howard = Peter Warrick = Rocket Ismail

I'm a big fan of Ginn. I just don't see his game translating over to the NFL.

Bubbajwp
10-07-2006, 08:30 AM
Man, those are all " once in a lifetime players." How is it possible I saw them all play in my lifetime? :bananasplit:

Im dont think he ever said anything about them being once in a lifetime players.

threetoedpete
10-07-2006, 11:34 PM
Ted Ginn = Desmond Howard = Peter Warrick = Rocket Ismail

I'm a big fan of Ginn. I just don't see his game translating over to the NFL.

I'm on board this band wagon. He punked Texas' DBs. And he's a great tallent no doubt. I would rather have a tallented project behind Molds is all. Not another #1 reciver. Gains can't hold blocks in the running game. In this system, i believe that is paramount. We need other holes in the dyke patched first. I've got him in
the same column as AP. I'll believe Kubiack does this when I see it. He has a system. It's worked for twenty years. Why would he change...{read panic} now ? Might happen just don't believe it. He's got the cajones to pass VY & RB because they don't fit...what makes you think he's going to do a 180 now ? Inquiring minds want to know ? LIS, I'll believe it when I see it.