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MrMeToo
10-01-2006, 02:59 PM
:redtowel: Who agrees?

cred
10-01-2006, 03:01 PM
Absolutly, if he doesn't go to the pro-bowl there is something wrong.

mancunian
10-01-2006, 03:02 PM
:redtowel: Who agrees?
I do, another great day,

DirtyPrince
10-01-2006, 03:03 PM
If Will Allen didnt strip him for the INT i woulda said yes.

jerek
10-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Andre had a man-sized game today. Prior to this season I would have called him a top-5 WR, but he's really put up numbers for us so far. If he can do it with consistency across the season I'd call him top-3, but just being honest, #1? I'm not sure he's shown that yet.

I still remember a bunch of nincompoops calling me out when I called him "T.O without the attitude." Tell me I'm wrong. Plays the exact same big, physical, fast game.

Stros5Texans80
10-01-2006, 03:07 PM
If Will Allen didnt strip him for the INT i woulda said yes.

That is a horrible reason to say no. The way he came down with it made it almost impossible to hold that ball.

Grid
10-01-2006, 03:09 PM
Looking at the wide receivers in the league, it is hard to point out one that is definatly better than Andre.

Moss isnt himself in Oakland, and T.O...for all his ability.. his attitude is a big minus for him.

Chad Johnson maybe? I dunno.. id have to agree that Andre Johnson is the best WR in the league.. but hes probably tied with 2 or 3 others.

FanFromCali
10-01-2006, 03:09 PM
He is by far the best player on the team and has to be mentioned as one of the best in the NFL now.

Runner
10-01-2006, 03:09 PM
I still remember a bunch of nincompoops calling me out when I called him "T.O without the attitude." Tell me I'm wrong. Plays the exact same big, physical, fast game.

I think a majority of the board has always been high on Dre.

kastofsna
10-01-2006, 03:10 PM
no he's not.

jerek
10-01-2006, 03:11 PM
Steve Smith is another top candidate you have to consider IMO, as well as Marvin Harrison though his age is slowing him. Andre does many great things and should be one of our brightest stars for years to come (and will continue to get better), but he is still somewhat unpolished IMO.

jerek
10-01-2006, 03:13 PM
I think a majority of the board has always been high on Dre.

"A bunch" was probably only "a few," but I still remember the thread.

Ibar_Harry
10-01-2006, 03:13 PM
AJ is a very good receiver, but Moulds is helping AJ a lot right now. You have two very good receivers who make each other look better. That is why I like our receiver core. Add in Walters and Daniels and you have very effective combinations which make each other look even better. Its a team game and AJ is benifiting from Team Play.............

Runner
10-01-2006, 03:16 PM
"A bunch" was probably only "a few," but I still remember the thread.

Well, every single player has supporters and detractors. It is easy for the vocal few to seem to be many. I just don't think you were fighting an uphill battle on this board talking about Dre being a great player.

Texas
10-01-2006, 03:17 PM
Top 5 easy...Top 3 possibly...Best maybe...

The Dream
10-01-2006, 03:18 PM
Top 5 easy...Top 3 possibly...Best maybe...


Yessir

Vinny
10-01-2006, 03:19 PM
Well, every single player has supporters and detractors. It is easy for the vocal few to seem to be many. I just don't think you were fighting an uphill battle on this board talking about Dre being a great player.
lol no kidding.

kastofsna
10-01-2006, 03:19 PM
blinded by homerism?

jerek
10-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Well, every single player has supporters and detractors. It is easy for the vocal few to seem to be many. I just don't think you were fighting an uphill battle on this board talking about Dre being a great player.

Nah, just commenting. Feel free to ignore my half-cooked boasts. :)

jerek
10-01-2006, 03:24 PM
Moss is suffering through a season of terrible QB's. I had a coworker say that Aaron Brooks is a better QB than David Carr. Yeah, I laughed alot about that one. :pigfly:

You work with Thunderkyss?

Grid
10-01-2006, 03:28 PM
yah i know its homerish, but really can you name any WR in the league that is definatly better than Johnson?

Ok, ill say this..there probably are some veterans that are better.. like Marvin Harrison.. but of the young recievers that will very soon be the best WRs in the league when the old farts start retiring.. I couldnt name anyone that is better than Johnson. I could name some guys equally good..but no one better.

texflex513
10-01-2006, 03:38 PM
blinded by homerism? I think its a good argument especially this year.. homerism aside... definitely top 5 though.

Insideop
10-01-2006, 03:41 PM
AJ is a very good receiver, but Moulds is helping AJ a lot right now. You have two very good receivers who make each other look better. That is why I like our receiver core. Add in Walters and Daniels and you have very effective combinations which make each other look even better. Its a team game and AJ is benifiting from Team Play.............


I agree with you Ibar, and if Johnson makes the Pro Bowl, (and he will if he keeps playing like this) I think he will owe alot to Moulds. Moulds has taken alot of pressure off Dre and I think his leadership/friendship, with not only Dre but Carr too, will pay big dividends for the whole team. Just hope it translates into more wins. Also, good to see Walters starting to make some plays too!

K.D.
10-01-2006, 03:50 PM
Dre' is the shizznitt and the whole NFL is going to realize this guy is for real.

run-david-run
10-01-2006, 04:04 PM
He is on pace for over 1600 yards and 8 TD's and has gone over 100 yards 3 out of 4 games. I think right now he is playing better then any other receiver and, other then Steve Smith maybe, means more to his team then any other wide receiver in the league. He has been about 40% of our passing offense the last two weeks. With a little more consistency he has the potential to be the best.

sleepwalker
10-01-2006, 04:22 PM
Another fantastic game from Andre!!! He is leading this team by example...I think Andre is going to carry this team on his shoulders the rest of the year.

Maddict5
10-01-2006, 04:28 PM
smith is the best..aj is the best BIG receiver along with TO and Moss...chad is not as good imo

MrMeToo
10-01-2006, 06:00 PM
Another fantastic game from Andre!!! He is leading this team by example...I think Andre is going to carry this team on his shoulders the rest of the year.

I agree

Huge
10-01-2006, 09:14 PM
Marvin Harrison
Torry Holt
Chad Johnson
Steve Smith
Larry Fitzgerald

But yeah, Dre is on his way.

RTP2110
10-01-2006, 09:18 PM
Don't forget Santana Moss guys.

Anyway, Johnson is carrying this offense right now. I mean, just imagine this offense without AJ. Yea, that's scary. It would be tough to move the ball with out him. I remember before the season, some people on this board were saying AJ needed to be cut!!

Kaiser Toro
10-01-2006, 09:19 PM
I like the fact that AJ is on our team and often look away from some of his shortcomings. But the best in the NFL at WR is not something I am signing onto.

JDizzle
10-01-2006, 09:41 PM
I wouldn't go that far, but I do think AJ is working his way into the elite group of NFL receivers.

That catch he made in double coverage at the 6 was big time and probably my favorite play of the day. Not the best pass in the world but considering Carr got nailed on the play I'm glad it was even catchable. Perfect timing and positioning by AJ.

Blu
10-01-2006, 10:08 PM
I think a majority of the board has always been high on Dre.
It's Dre Day....and he's blowing up on the fantasy boards.
The stripe was just heads up Defence, wish our db's did more of that themselves.

4Texans
10-02-2006, 07:23 AM
Just keep throwing the ball to him! :superman:

Rightnow
10-02-2006, 07:37 AM
If we had a good running game AJ and Moulds would destroy most teams. Can you imagine the play action we could achieve?

gtexan02
10-02-2006, 07:54 AM
Its too hard to judge a WR because their play depends on the QB so much more than any other position.

The Best WRS (in no particular order)
Steve Smith
AJ
Chad Johnson
Torry Holt
Hines Ward
Larry Fitzgerald
Randy Moss
TO
Marvin Harrison

TEXANRED
10-02-2006, 08:29 AM
Looking at the wide receivers in the league, it is hard to point out one that is definatly better than Andre.



Marvin Harrison.

After that I would agree with Jerek about top 3. TO has a slight edge at #2 and Chad Johnson is having an off year. Steve Smith is good but AJ is better and all HWard does is catch TD passes.(Any Chris Carter fans out there?:rolleyes: )

Before the season I was busting on AJ's chops for not being able to catch and get open but so far this year he has done one heck of a job.

He keeps this up he will have over 1600 yards for the season.

coachdent
10-02-2006, 08:47 AM
smith is the best..aj is the best BIG receiver along with TO and Moss...chad is not as good imo

Small Boys:
Smith
Moss

Big Boys:
Terrell Owens
Andre Johnson
Chad Johnson

My list would be:
1. Terrell Owens
2. Steve Smith
3. Andre Johnson
3a. Chad Johnson
4. Santana Moss

Strictly based on skills. T.O. is the most talented WR in the NFL without a doubt. From a physical standpoint, there is no equal. BUT.....and before people start jumping on me.... BUT you cannot discount the personal aspect of his game. He is a cancer and a malcontent that I would not want on my team. So from that standpoint, I would drop T.O. out of the top five when you consider the total package.

Smith #1
AJ #2

texan279
10-02-2006, 09:21 AM
Small Boys:
Smith
Moss

Big Boys:
Terrell Owens
Andre Johnson
Chad Johnson

My list would be:
1. Terrell Owens
2. Steve Smith
3. Andre Johnson
3a. Chad Johnson
4. Santana Moss

Strictly based on skills. T.O. is the most talented WR in the NFL without a doubt. From a physical standpoint, there is no equal. BUT.....and before people start jumping on me.... BUT you cannot discount the personal aspect of his game. He is a cancer and a malcontent that I would not want on my team. So from that standpoint, I would drop T.O. out of the top five when you consider the total package.

Smith #1
AJ #2

Randy Moss small?

Runner
10-02-2006, 09:22 AM
Randy Moss small?

Santana Moss.

Kaiser Toro
10-02-2006, 09:22 AM
Randy Moss small?

I think he is talking about Santana

SESupergenius
10-02-2006, 09:38 AM
Glad to see him adjust to the ball like most of the elite receivers do in this league and also good concentration on the TD, that probably negates the takeaway he gave up. He's being targeted a lot this year and Moulds is making him all that much better, but still not the in the top 10 in the league.

powerfuldragon
10-02-2006, 10:42 AM
WR Andre Johnson

(on the game) “I feel great. We were able to get a win today. You know we have been hearing a lot of criticism and things like that. Everybody went out and did everything they can to go out and get this victory.”

(on what happened when the offense got going in the second half) “One thing about this game is you just can’t be one dimensional. The coaches stress running the ball, and when you’re a receiver you always want the ball. You get a little controversy, but nothing with coach or anything like that. We were able to make some plays downfield and the runners were able to make some good runs today, and I think it kind of kept them off balance today.”

(on whether he would like more passing) “I think they compliment each other. Some people say you need to run the ball to open up the pass, but I think it works both ways. I think you just have to start off with whatever works.”

(on Coach Kubiak saying that he could not get Johnson the ball enough) “Anybody likes when the ball comes to them, especially when you’re a wide receiver. I’m just thankful for every opportunity that I get. You know in the first three games (this season), I have never had this many opportunities to make plays. When Coach Kubiak first got here and I met with him, he told me that he was going to give me opportunities to make plays. So what he said, he’s doing. He’s giving me the opportunity, so I’m just going out and trying to do the best I can with it.”

(on whether he was making catches when the Dolphins were blitzing or while he was double teamed) “It was both. It really didn’t matter. I think Coach Kubiak does a good job of mixing things around, and not just being in the same spot all the time. I’m in the slot one play, outside the next play, or in the slot two plays, then outside. He just mixes everything around.”

(on whether his alignments are helping him excel) “In order to give a receiver opportunities, you can’t just keep him in one spot during the game. You can only run so many routes from one spot. I think by him moving me around, (and) he doesn’t just do it to me, he does it to (WR) Eric (Moulds) too, I think that by moving us around it helps both of us out.”

-From the official website.

TexanFanInCC
10-02-2006, 11:06 AM
:redtowel: Who agrees?

ehhh its debatable, but not far-fetched. he is a beast. carr could lob them up and he could catch all of em.

Dre_80
10-02-2006, 11:53 AM
dre = :superman:

Maddict5
10-02-2006, 11:57 AM
ehhh its debatable, but not far-fetched. he is a beast. carr could lob them up and he could catch all of em.


most of them

Texas_Thrill
10-02-2006, 09:36 PM
Steve Smith - CAR
Terry Holt - STL
Marvin Harrison - IND
Terrell Owens - DAL
Chad Johnson - CIN
5 way tie at 6 with Andre Johnson, Boldin and Fitz.

Trap_Star
10-02-2006, 09:43 PM
Steve Smith - CAR
Terry Holt - STL
Marvin Harrison - IND
Terrell Owens - DAL
Chad Johnson - CIN
5 way tie at 6 with Andre Johnson, Boldin and Fitz.


NO RANDY MOSS???:confused:

Ibar_Harry
10-02-2006, 09:44 PM
WR Andre Johnson

(on the game) “I feel great. We were able to get a win today. You know we have been hearing a lot of criticism and things like that. Everybody went out and did everything they can to go out and get this victory.”

(on what happened when the offense got going in the second half) “One thing about this game is you just can’t be one dimensional. The coaches stress running the ball, and when you’re a receiver you always want the ball. You get a little controversy, but nothing with coach or anything like that. We were able to make some plays downfield and the runners were able to make some good runs today, and I think it kind of kept them off balance today.”

(on whether he would like more passing) “I think they compliment each other. Some people say you need to run the ball to open up the pass, but I think it works both ways. I think you just have to start off with whatever works.”

(on Coach Kubiak saying that he could not get Johnson the ball enough) “Anybody likes when the ball comes to them, especially when you’re a wide receiver. I’m just thankful for every opportunity that I get. You know in the first three games (this season), I have never had this many opportunities to make plays. When Coach Kubiak first got here and I met with him, he told me that he was going to give me opportunities to make plays. So what he said, he’s doing. He’s giving me the opportunity, so I’m just going out and trying to do the best I can with it.”

(on whether he was making catches when the Dolphins were blitzing or while he was double teamed) “It was both. It really didn’t matter. I think Coach Kubiak does a good job of mixing things around, and not just being in the same spot all the time. I’m in the slot one play, outside the next play, or in the slot two plays, then outside. He just mixes everything around.”

(on whether his alignments are helping him excel) “In order to give a receiver opportunities, you can’t just keep him in one spot during the game. You can only run so many routes from one spot. I think by him moving me around, (and) he doesn’t just do it to me, he does it to (WR) Eric (Moulds) too, I think that by moving us around it helps both of us out.”

-From the official website.

I read this last night and I thought posting this quote as well. To me he is saying what I have been saying for a long time. Perhapes he understands the 49ers played the pass 1st to set up the run. That was the Walsh, Montana, Rice style of games for years. That's why they were a SB team. They played to their strength. Remember, AJ is a big Rice fan.

I have been arguing about this for some time. I believe we need to set up our running game through the passing game. That is not the way Kubiak thinks and I think he is making a big mistake. I've seen some quotes from Moulds, AJ and Carr that tend to make me believe that their is some questions on this issue within the Texans.

Farough
10-02-2006, 09:50 PM
I'd say that its not too far from the truth. He's only 3 yards away from leading the league in Receiving yards, and is tied for the league lead in receptions.

Nbkan
10-02-2006, 09:57 PM
Steve Smith - CAR
Terry Holt - STL
Marvin Harrison - IND
Terrell Owens - DAL
Chad Johnson - CIN
5 way tie at 6 with Andre Johnson, Boldin and Fitz.

I am in agreement here...Although a Texan fan to the core I appreciate Boldin and Fitz. I have always liked Chad Johnson, but he is attracting more than his share of attention this year opening up Houshmandzadeh. Lots of Young guys and new faces stepping up so far, but I am glad AJ is having the year he is having thus far, knock on wood and I look forward to watching him roll on to a Pro Bowl Year.

We just need 1 more wideout to step it up to make the defense worry about more than AJ and Emo.

TheCD
10-02-2006, 10:34 PM
I definitely think AJ is on his way to becoming a top-3 receiver (I find it very difficult to place a single player at #1 when talking about the top 3), but I dont' think he's there yet. He just hasn't been dominant over defenses long enough quite yet for my liking to rate him higher than Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith and Chad Johnson. Stats aren't everything; I just think he needs one more year under his belt before he breaks that upper-echelon.

Mysteryhunt
10-02-2006, 10:51 PM
bah i wish i was back in houston. last time i visited a new neighbor had moved into the house next to my dads. and i kid you not it was ANDRE JOHNSON! first time ive even been jealous of my dad lol

Runner
10-02-2006, 11:11 PM
bah i wish i was back in houston. last time i visited a new neighbor had moved into the house next to my dads. and i kid you not it was ANDRE JOHNSON! first time ive even been jealous of my dad lol

The players all live somewhere.

Sounds pretty cool. :shades:

run-david-run
10-03-2006, 12:10 AM
The thing I really like about AJ is that he is a complete receiver. Yes, he has had some problems with drops, but he is also capable of making that incredible catch that changes a game (jump ball on Sunday, against the Chiefs back in 04, etc). He has the speed and ablility to beat his man deep, can take it over the middle, gets great YAC and is a good blocker. Basicaly, he can do it all and when Carr has time, it seems the other team cant stop him (I swear everytime he droped back to pass against Washington he threw it to AJ). Keep it up Dre.

TK_Gamer
10-03-2006, 02:40 AM
I thinks it depends on your perspective, If you ask me who the best recievers in the league are overall, I would say marvin harrison, tory holt, terrel owens, but if you ask me who is the best reciever right now then guys like AJ, steve smith, boldin, chad johnson. steve smith never was my pick for top reciever but he's off to a great start. chad johnson is not as gifted as AJ but has a little more consistency in the crunch. if AJ can keep the drops down on 3rd down he will be one of the best IMHO.

kastofsna
10-03-2006, 07:59 AM
NO RANDY MOSS???:confused:
meh, not anymore. he doesn't care at all anymore. during the browns games on sunday, there were several plays where he was actually THROWN the ball, and didn't really make an attempt at the ball. it's one thing to dog it when it's a running play away from you, but this is something else. he just doesn't care. although he did have a TD, so....who knows.