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Texans_Chick
09-18-2006, 12:22 PM
I have a confession.

I was watching the game yesterday in a sports bar, and late in the game, when Peyton Manning kept throwing the ball, I started yelling how I wanted him to get really hurt and ruin Indy's season.

And I felt conflicted about that, because you really shouldn't want to wish for harm for someone who is a talented athlete. Until I had this revelation that I've shared in the Fanhouse:

"Peyton Manning is Evil (http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2006/09/18/peyton-manning-is-evil/)"

Yesterday, Peyton Manning put exactly 400 passing yards up in the Colts' 43-24 buttocks rendering of the Texans. You might think that this is a result of the Colts being a better team, or that it is a result of the catastrophic and complete failure of the Texans defense.

No, that is just the conventional theory. A more in depth view reveals the sinister truth: Peyton Manning is Evil, and that he has a pact with Mephistopheles.

Read it and you will believe. It makes sense. Or at least as much sense as some of the theories thrown around here. :cool:


Bygones. Looking forward to the Redskins game.

Mr. White
09-18-2006, 12:28 PM
Nice article. Didn't really think about it this way... the drive before halftime proves it.

I think he's trying to pad his numbers for a HOF run. And we helped his case.

DocBar
09-18-2006, 12:30 PM
I have a confession.

I was watching the game yesterday in a sports bar, and late in the game, when Peyton Manning kept throwing the ball, I started yelling how I wanted him to get really hurt and ruin Indy's season.

And I felt conflicted about that, because you really shouldn't want to wish for harm for someone who is a talented athlete. Until I had this revelation that I've shared in the Fanhouse:

"Peyton Manning is Evil (http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2006/09/18/peyton-manning-is-evil/)"



Read it and you will believe. It makes sense. Or at least as much sense as some of the theories thrown around here. :cool:


Bygones. Looking forward to the Redskins game.
I'm glad I'm not alone. I kept replaying Joe Thiesman in my head and putting Manning on the back of the jersey.

LBC_Justin
09-18-2006, 12:32 PM
I have a confession.

I was watching the game yesterday in a sports bar, and late in the game, when Peyton Manning kept throwing the ball, I started yelling how I wanted him to get really hurt and ruin Indy's season.

And I felt conflicted about that, because you really shouldn't want to wish for harm for someone who is a talented athlete. Until I had this revelation that I've shared in the Fanhouse:

"Peyton Manning is Evil (http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2006/09/18/peyton-manning-is-evil/)"



Read it and you will believe. It makes sense. Or at least as much sense as some of the theories thrown around here. :cool:


Bygones. Looking forward to the Redskins game.
I hate the guy.

but...I drafted him on my fantasy team to ease my pain.

beerlover
09-18-2006, 12:36 PM
Nice article. Didn't really think about it this way... the drive before halftime proves it.

I think he's trying to pad his numbers for a HOF run. And we helped his case.

If the Texans went for it on 4th down instead of making that long FG attempt & converted, Payton never gets the chance for that late TD drive. While I understand the need to come away with something by giving the ball back with that much time left to the Colts was clearly in my view an error on Kubiak and his staff.

Concerning HOF numbers Payton is already there, I like the fact when you have your opponent on the ropes you go for the jugular, its called killer instinct something the Texans could use.

Cjeremy635
09-18-2006, 12:37 PM
Nice article...lol. Truth is, we will be on everyone's highlight reel this year until we can stop the bleeding. If you don't want him to run up the score, stop him. I know it's tacky, but players are individuals and sometimes they want to have career days. Unfortunately, most of the time it is against us. :wild:

beerlover
09-18-2006, 12:40 PM
I have a confession.

I was watching the game yesterday in a sports bar, and late in the game, when Peyton Manning kept throwing the ball, I started yelling how I wanted him to get really hurt and ruin Indy's season.

And I felt conflicted about that, because you really shouldn't want to wish for harm for someone who is a talented athlete. Until I had this revelation that I've shared in the Fanhouse:




Usually people make confessions after doing something they know is wrong, way to come correct. I enjoy your takes and heard you today on Sports Radio 610 @ end of show, nice.

Johnny Utah
09-18-2006, 12:56 PM
This is not the first time that Payton has ran it up on the Texans in the 4th quarter. He just loves padding his stats on the Texans.

gtexan02
09-18-2006, 01:01 PM
My guess is someone he knew had money on the game. The line was 13 points or so, and they had us by 12. He needed one more TD to get 19. And thats what happened.

hollywood_texan
09-18-2006, 01:02 PM
Look, the Colts were going to keep it a 3 TD game. If Carr and company hadn't scored those TDs in the 4th quarter, Manning probably wouldn't have been in there or just handed the ball off.

The Colts this year have a lot to prove too!

They weren't going to even let this thing get close, that would have been an embarrasment for them...

Texans Horror
09-18-2006, 01:03 PM
I think they all watch that KC game last year and want to be Larry Johnson (211 yards, 2 TD).

Vinny
09-18-2006, 01:07 PM
Not a response to the thread but to the people taking shots at Manning running up the score....Most offenses will move the ball in a manner that breaks down your weakness and exploits it until you can stop them. I don't blame them for passing on us, again, and again, and again. There is no crying in football. Stop someone if you don't like it.

RiotCommander
09-18-2006, 01:07 PM
I just hope that when they have to play us again this year someone pays them back for running up the score. Even if its a 15 yarder. Let them know there will be a price to be paid. No, I don't expect us to beat them this year, but I hope by the end of the year we can be a tougher match-up.

Malloy
09-18-2006, 01:08 PM
Ying and Yang baby, good and evil needs each other :)

Or... The good, the Bad and the real ugly... we know which on the Texans are :)

El Tejano
09-18-2006, 01:13 PM
I mean, what's a roughing the passer call going to do when your team is already down 43-17. Killer instinct man!!!!

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2006, 01:13 PM
Not a response to the thread but to the people taking shots at Manning running up the score....Most offenses will move the ball in a manner that breaks down your weakness and exploits it until you can stop them. I don't blame them for passing on us, again, and again, and again. There is no crying in football. Stop someone if you don't like it.
After Schoebel spiked Carr for 15 yards ... I kinda thought the Texans might take a shot at Manning . The Texans could stand to be a little intimidating .

aj.
09-18-2006, 01:16 PM
Like the swallows returning to Capistrano and the mud daubers returning to Luckenbach, we have a whiney 'running up the score' thread, right on cue.

Here's an idea: How about stopping them? (or at least slowing them down to Mach 2).

I would have done the same thing as Manning. Twas easy pickin's.

Cjeremy635
09-18-2006, 01:17 PM
After Schoebel spiked Carr for 15 yards ... I kinda thought the Texans might take a shot at Manning . The Texans could stand to be a little intimidating .


I agree...we're SOFT...it's true. :crying:

gjmac2
09-18-2006, 01:18 PM
This is not the first time that Payton has ran it up on the Texans in the 4th quarter. He just loves padding his stats on the Texans.

I thought it was kind of classless to throw the ball when there was like 5 minutes left in the game. I guess I expect a little more from Dungy & Manning.

(I know, I know....."If we don't want them to score, we should stop them"! Maybe it's just a little frustration on my part.) :brickwall

Kaiser Toro
09-18-2006, 01:20 PM
I thought it was kind of classless to throw the ball when there was like 5 minutes left in the game. I guess I expect a little more from Dungy & Manning.

(I know, I know....."If we don't want them to score, we should stop them"! Maybe it's just a little frustration on my part.) :brickwall

These are professionals that get paid to win and if they can squeeze out one more win in 2007 or 2008 against the Texans because they have kicked our cans physically and mentally then they have done their job. Perception is a force in the other team's locker room, espcecially when it erodes their confidence and belief that they can win.

eric138
09-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Yeah, it would have been great if Mario nailed him when he was on his blind side right after he pitched it away.. that would have been sweet.

I tell you what though, Archie is one proud dad. I mean, I am proud of my kids and when they grow up most likely I will be proud of them because I am raising them boys with good values but gees, two kick ass NFL quarterbacks and the older son is a successful businessman.. That's pretty good stuff right there.

Cjeremy635
09-18-2006, 01:28 PM
Yeah, it would have been great if Mario nailed him when he was on his blind side right after he pitched it away.. that would have been sweet.

I tell you what though, Archie is one proud dad. I mean, I am proud of my kids and when they grow up most likely I will be proud of them because I am raising them boys with good values but gees, two kick ass NFL quarterbacks and the older son is a successful businessman.. That's pretty good stuff right there.


Geez, have faith..lol

Texans_Chick
09-18-2006, 01:29 PM
Like the swallows returning to Capistrano and the mud daubers returning to Luckenbach, we have a whiney 'running up the score' thread, right on cue.

Here's an idea: How about stopping them? (or at least slowing them down to Mach 2).

I would have done the same thing as Manning. Twas easy pickin's.

Well, yeah, you would do it if you had a pact with the devil and had no concern with getting injured and ruining your teams' season with Sorgi having to play the rest of it.

No freaking duh: the Texans defense sucked rocks against the Colts. Doesn't make for very entertaining reading because it ain't a newsflash. You can just write that straight up (which I did), or you can have a bit of fun and make a case for Manning being a devil worshipper. I choose B, because otherwise the season is going to be too damn long if it stays this ugly.

Hello. I wasn't whining about Peyton running up the score. I was more wondering out loud about why Indy isn't concerned at all about continuing to throw the ball when Manning has been sacked twice against a team that hates them and is already pretty much has little to lose going off on him.

Freeney- no pact with the devil-injured.
Vinatieri-no pact with the devil-injured.
Stokley-no pact with the devil-injured

Manning on the other hand has no fear of injuries even after being sacked twice because he and the devil are buds.

Geez, I guess the NFL really does mean No Fun League.

Double Barrel
09-18-2006, 03:14 PM
Not a response to the thread but to the people taking shots at Manning running up the score....Most offenses will move the ball in a manner that breaks down your weakness and exploits it until you can stop them. I don't blame them for passing on us, again, and again, and again. There is no crying in football. Stop someone if you don't like it.

No doubt. If 35-3 taught us anything, it's that nothing is over until it's over.

I doubt any Texans fans would complain if the shoe was on the other foot and Carr was throwing 4th quarter TD passes in a blowout game.

Funny post, TC....especially in this climate that lacks much humor. :shades:

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2006, 03:24 PM
The Texans should get nasty out there . You show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser .:cowboy1:

Chaft
09-18-2006, 03:39 PM
My guess is someone he knew had money on the game. The line was 13 points or so, and they had us by 12. He needed one more TD to get 19. And thats what happened.

Yes, that is a very important part of the game that is not noticed and expressed during the game except for folks like Al Michaels. Peyton Manning isn't going to let the Colts bettors down. The gambling industry is huge. Online betting on the NFL is probably the engine that maintains an audience for some of these blowout games ala Colts vs Texans.

Texans are now 0-2 against the spread so far. They were 7-9 against the spread last season.

tex
09-18-2006, 03:48 PM
You say you shouldn't wish harm on a talented athlete. I feel the same way about running up the stats,score. People say if you don't like it then stop him so putting out of the game would stop him right?If people don't want to show sportsmanship on overscoring then why show it about putting someone out of the game ? Just because they are a good athlete doesn't mean hands off.

SESupergenius
09-18-2006, 03:51 PM
Not a response to the thread but to the people taking shots at Manning running up the score....Most offenses will move the ball in a manner that breaks down your weakness and exploits it until you can stop them. I don't blame them for passing on us, again, and again, and again. There is no crying in football. Stop someone if you don't like it.
All our team had to do was stop Manning a couple of times and allow Carr and the offense to gain a little dignity. When Shobel drove Carr into the turf, did you notice not one of his players helped Carr or get Schobel off him? That is distressing. This team has no fire.

HJam72
09-18-2006, 03:54 PM
Peyton isn't evil. He just made one little deal with Satan and hasn't seen his soul in a few years. Just a little one, that's all.

gjmac2
09-18-2006, 04:04 PM
All our team had to do was stop Manning a couple of times and allow Carr and the offense to gain a little dignity. When Shobel drove Carr into the turf, did you notice not one of his players helped Carr or get Schobel off him? That is distressing. This team has no fire.

I did not notice that. I will go back and look at the game on TIVO. If it's true, Kubiak needs to get in someone's face about it.

I was an offensive lineman in HS, and you do not let ANYONE treat your QB like that. I don't care if the QB is the worst QB in history, you do not let that stuff go on! Your right, that is distressing.

:mad:

SESupergenius
09-18-2006, 04:05 PM
I wasn't able to see that game again, but from the brief clip, there didn't seem to be any "rush" by his teammates to get Schobel off him or help him up.

Dime
09-18-2006, 04:45 PM
"Nah, they are really not that good.. at any given we could have had 40 points" Wait.. they still would have beat us... dang.

rofl

powerfuldragon
09-18-2006, 04:48 PM
Fact: In 1989, Peyton Manning sold his soul to the devil.

ojthecat
09-18-2006, 05:24 PM
I say we sell Carr's soul to the devil.

Honoring Earl 34
09-18-2006, 05:29 PM
All our team had to do was stop Manning a couple of times and allow Carr and the offense to gain a little dignity. When Shobel drove Carr into the turf, did you notice not one of his players helped Carr or get Schobel off him? That is distressing. This team has no fire.
What does that tell you ? I watched Byron Leftwich's OL carry him 40 yds to the line of scrimmage after he hurt his leg at Marshall .

Wolf
09-18-2006, 05:40 PM
I hate it that the Colts were still running their offense in the 4th and we couldn't stop it.. but bottom line is ...WE coudn't stop them

Did anyone see the Giants comeback by 17 down in the 4th and beat the Eagles yesterday?

If a team knows about comebacks it is the Colts
How about this?

But the mild-mannered Dungy wore out his welcome in the fourth quarter when his Colts, down 35-14 with less than four minutes left, scored three consecutive touchdowns against the No. 1 defense to send the game to overtime.


The Colts then completed one of the greatest comebacks in NFL history, winning 38-35 on Mike Vanderjagt's 29-yard field goal, which was deflected, with 3:47 left. They scored 35 points in the second half to become the first team to win a game after trailing by 21 or more points with less than four minutes remaining.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/games/2003-10-07-colts-bucs_x.htm

Kaiser Toro
09-18-2006, 05:45 PM
When Shobel drove Carr into the turf, did you notice not one of his players helped Carr or get Schobel off him? That is distressing. This team has no fire.

It does not surprise me as this was first evident to me in late 2004 and has concerned me for quite some time. Not saying it occurs all of the time, but when it does occur it does not bode well for team unity in the short or long term.

aj.
09-18-2006, 06:35 PM
No freaking duh:

Hello. I wasn't whining about Peyton running up the score.



I was commenting about some of the comments by others contained in the thread - not your attempt at devil worship humor. Sorry for not being clear on that. This thead was inevitable anyway. People were whining on SR 610 this afternoon about the 'running it up' thing. Whatever. That stuff has always struck me as kind of lame.

FILO_girl
09-18-2006, 06:58 PM
Not a response to the thread but to the people taking shots at Manning running up the score....Most offenses will move the ball in a manner that breaks down your weakness and exploits it until you can stop them. I don't blame them for passing on us, again, and again, and again. There is no crying in football. Stop someone if you don't like it.

True that.
If the Texans didn't like it, they should have stopped it. Going on 5 years of the same old song and dance.
Had that been David Carr doing this, would you folks hold the same opinion? Manning isn't evil, he is good and wears the opposition's jersey. And until we show otherwise....we will make him look better.

FILO_girl
09-18-2006, 07:02 PM
Like the swallows returning to Capistrano and the mud daubers returning to Luckenbach, we have a whiney 'running up the score' thread, right on cue.

Here's an idea: How about stopping them? (or at least slowing them down to Mach 2).

I would have done the same thing as Manning. Twas easy pickin's.



You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to aj. again.
:)

Wolf
09-18-2006, 09:48 PM
verything was good, he said, but it wasn’t quite great.

Because the Colts’ head coach said to feel great about a victory, everything must go correctly, and in addition to several early mistakes, the fourth quarter of the Colts’ 43-24 victory over the Houston Texans most certainly did not go as Dungy had hoped:

• Three touchdowns allowed.

• 11 first downs allowed.

• 209 yards allowed.

Not bad enough to ruin the feeling of a second consecutive victory to start the 2006 regular-season, but enough to remove a bit of the luster.

“It feels good to be 2-0,” Dungy said Monday, a day after the Colts’ ninth consecutive victory over the Texans, who joined the NFL as a 2002 expansion team.

“We did a lot of things really well, but some of the negatives weight on you a little bit and put a damper on some of the good things you did. We’ll have to get those squared away. I thought we were pretty sharp for the first three quarters other than the penalties and losing a fumble at the 1-yard line.

“In a tight game, those things can hurt you, so that was a little disappointing. In the fourth quarter, when it was 30-3, we substituted on defense and really lost everything. We gave them three scores and 11 first downs in about 10 minutes.

“That doesn’t let you come away with a good feeling.”


http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Johnny Utah
09-19-2006, 08:05 AM
Anthony Weaver was mad about Payton running up the score. He said the game was over in the 4th and he was still throwing deep passes. He said this was something the defense won't forget.

aj.
09-19-2006, 08:09 AM
He said this was something the defense won't forget.

I'm sure they won't.

But being able to do something about it is a completely different story, it seems.

I wonder how many of our defensive players that were involved in this latest debacle will be on the team when the Texans finally beat the Colts ...

TEXANRED
09-19-2006, 08:11 AM
I'm sure they won't.

But being able to do something about it is a completely different story, it seems.

I wonder how many of our defensive players that were involved in this latest debacle will be on the team when the Texans finally beat the Colts ...
Why do you have the redskins as your avatar?

Malloy
09-19-2006, 09:22 AM
Anthony Weaver was mad about Payton running up the score. He said the game was over in the 4th and he was still throwing deep passes. He said this was something the defense won't forget.

What are they going to do, write a letter ? :)

WWJD
09-19-2006, 09:24 AM
The Texans said the same thing last year and they still haven't done anything about it.

The Colts scored at will on them Sunday. So stop them already!

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS
09-19-2006, 09:26 AM
What are they going to do, write a letter ? :)

Hard to write a letter when we are 32nd in defense........but they did run up the score, and Peyton stayed in the entire game, for what, why stay in the game to get hurt........

HoustonFan
09-19-2006, 09:27 AM
Get to Manning then. Babin did a lil' somethin' getting the 1 and only drop on Manning, but if this was done at least 3 or 4 times that would make a difference.

-see Pittsburgh Steelers vs Colts in the playoffs last season.

Malloy
09-19-2006, 09:28 AM
Hard to write a letter when we are 32nd in defense........but they did run up the score, and Peyton stayed in the entire game, for what, why stay in the game to get hurt........

Monetary incentives, beefing up the stats for his retirement?

Game-planning for 4 quarters would be a good idea too, IMO :)

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS
09-19-2006, 09:34 AM
Monetary incentives, beefing up the stats for his retirement?

Game-planning for 4 quarters would be a good idea too, IMO :)

I like that Malloy, you hit it on the nose, Passing up Marino in all stats is his goal..........:redtowel:

real
09-19-2006, 09:35 AM
Get to Manning then. Babin did a lil' somethin' getting the 1 and only drop on Manning, but if this was done at least 3 or 4 times that would make a difference.

-see Pittsburgh Steelers vs Colts in the playoffs last season.

Greenwood got a sack...

infantrycak
09-19-2006, 09:57 AM
Folks need to realize how rare multi sack games are against Manning. During the existence of the Texans--66 games--Manning has been sacked 2 or more times only 18 times--4 of those have been by the Texans.

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS
09-19-2006, 10:12 AM
Anthony Weaver was mad about Payton running up the score. He said the game was over in the 4th and he was still throwing deep passes. He said this was something the defense won't forget.


I hope for a sweet revenge on the Colts.......that's want I told my wife I want for Christmas this year a win against the Colts at home on Christmas eve...........I know most of you will agree that would be a gift that keeps on giving.......:redtowel: :redtowel:

Texans_Chick
09-19-2006, 10:25 AM
Folks need to realize how rare multi sack games are against Manning. During the existence of the Texans--66 games--Manning has been sacked 2 or more times only 18 times--4 of those have been by the Texans.


Nice post.

A little perspective is nice.

South Texan
09-19-2006, 10:30 AM
Hmmmm, Peyton a totally evil guy in league with the Devil.

It all makes sense now, I think I understand why my EX-wife was always calling out his name when we were making..... ahhhhhhh..... nevermind.

Suffice to say she worshiped him.

eriadoc
09-19-2006, 10:50 AM
I agree with the school of thought that says stop Manning if you don't want him running up the score. However, I'll add that it wouldn't hurt to put a little fear into him. When Moses got blasted a couple years ago, the team did nothing about it. When Carr got spiked on Sunday, the team did nothing about it. This is a game of dominance and sometimes you just have to take a 15-yard penalty or two. There's something to be said for just plain hard hitting as well. The entire game on Sunday, I kept remembering the Eagles v. Oilers game where the Eagles knocked the hell out of the Oilers. They knew the Oilers could pass all over them, so they just let Moon do his thing and then they killed the receivers (and Moon) as often as possible. And they won. Perhaps our team needs to pull that on Manning and Co.

Blu
09-19-2006, 10:52 AM
I bet if you cut Paytons right arm off, it grows right back.

Texans_Chick
09-20-2006, 05:58 PM
I bet if you cut Paytons right arm off, it grows right back.

Bwahahaha.



Apparently, Colts fans do not have a overly developed sense of irony. Who would have guessed?

A number of them freaked out about my suggesting the Peyton's alliance with Satan, and dumped a bunch of comments.

Though my favorite comment, as it related to the Peyton's avoidance of injury, is this:

That's why I consult Nostradamus' Pro Football annual before betting on a game. Unlike the Necromicon, they provide injury updates.

It's a funny series of comments if you are really bored.

Double Barrel
09-20-2006, 06:57 PM
Why do you have the redskins as your avatar?

Look at his avatar a little closer and you'll understand. :shades:

The Pencil Neck
09-20-2006, 10:03 PM
A number of them freaked out about my suggesting the Peyton's alliance with Satan, and dumped a bunch of comments.


Peyton... Satan... Peyton... Satan...

Coinkydink? I think not.

kfranco_utexas
09-20-2006, 11:37 PM
I also noticed and was pretty upset. I dont root for players to get injured...but I have to admit that I wished we ended his career for being a jerk. He was just padding his stats and he always does this to us, I dont know if he does that to other teams but I am pretty confident that if he were up 28-0 hed be in the 4th quarter still throwing passes. Once he gets injured as a result of this, he will think twice. Payton will go down later on in the season, write it down :wild:

ColtsFan in CA
09-21-2006, 01:14 AM
just an FYI


“The problem we had was it was 30-3 and we’re up basically four scores,” Dungy said. “We substituted on defense. You’d like to go out there and hold them. We didn’t. They went right down the field and scored in about two and a half minutes. Now, we’re three scores up. Now, that’s not the time to substitute on offense. We told our guys, 'One more drive.’

“They took it down and scored and we’re back up. The defense does the same thing, so we sent the offense back out there. We’d like to have stopped them a couple of times, then gotten our substitutes out there on offense.”


http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Dungy wanted to sub the offense but since you guys scored so quick we could not take the chance you guys coming back and winning it.
Also those timeouts your coach called with about 3 minutes left obviously pissed Peyton and Co. Off which is when he threw the bomb to Reggie and we tried to score.
Your team was still playing to win why shouldn't the Colts? :deadhorse
just thought you would like to know the real scoop instead of assuming Peyton is out to pad his stats.

mefool3030
09-21-2006, 01:32 AM
peyton is not even a good quarterback. in fact, he's one of the worst. all he has a good offensive line and probably the greatest defense that has ever played the game. i cant believe he does so good against the texans

Napa Auto Parts
09-21-2006, 02:28 AM
just an FYI




http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Dungy wanted to sub the offense but since you guys scored so quick we could not take the chance you guys coming back and winning it.
Also those timeouts your coach called with about 3 minutes left obviously pissed Peyton and Co. Off which is when he threw the bomb to Reggie and we tried to score.
Your team was still playing to win why shouldn't the Colts? :deadhorse
just thought you would like to know the real scoop instead of assuming Peyton is out to pad his stats.




Totally agree with you why should the colts take it easy on us.

mefool3030
09-21-2006, 02:37 AM
just an FYI




http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Dungy wanted to sub the offense but since you guys scored so quick we could not take the chance you guys coming back and winning it.
Also those timeouts your coach called with about 3 minutes left obviously pissed Peyton and Co. Off which is when he threw the bomb to Reggie and we tried to score.
Your team was still playing to win why shouldn't the Colts? :deadhorse
just thought you would like to know the real scoop instead of assuming Peyton is out to pad his stats.



Yes kinda true but really does not make sense. When its close to the end of the game, and teams are winning by 3 touchdowns, mostly every team trys to run the ball to run the clock. I watched this whole game and the colts never stopped the pass attack. I believe peyton is just trying to keep adding to his stats. If there were only 2 min left, colts up by 28, and peyton was near the endzone, do you really think they would run the clock down. No peyton will keep passing trying to shatter every record.

TexansSeminole
09-21-2006, 03:05 AM
I love Peyton Manning. He is probably my favorite player in the NFL. He is classy, he loves to play, and he is so damn good.

TexansSeminole
09-21-2006, 03:07 AM
I also noticed and was pretty upset. I dont root for players to get injured...but I have to admit that I wished we ended his career for being a jerk. He was just padding his stats and he always does this to us, I dont know if he does that to other teams but I am pretty confident that if he were up 28-0 hed be in the 4th quarter still throwing passes. Once he gets injured as a result of this, he will think twice. Payton will go down later on in the season, write it down :wild:

You guys are rediculous. He isn't trying to up his stats. It is the beginning of the season, he is working with his guys. Experience means everything, even if you have played for 10 years in the NFL. Everyone has to get used to each other again, it was just the perfect game for him to do it.

TexansSeminole
09-21-2006, 03:10 AM
Anthony Weaver was mad about Payton running up the score. He said the game was over in the 4th and he was still throwing deep passes. He said this was something the defense won't forget.

As far as this goes, thats rediculous as well, if he even said that. That's like you whining to your older brother for scoring on you at will in a basketball game.

Suck it up and beat them, dont whine about how you got your ass kicked. Pardon me but THAT is why we aren't a playoff team. If we were, one of our leaders would say, "they played a great game and we let them bully us around, we can't do this". I am tired of this whining.

infantrycak
09-21-2006, 09:09 AM
Classy--Jags at 1:42 on the Pittsburgh 2 yd line not trying to score.

Not-classy--Indy throwing bombs at 2:42 up 20 points.

Yeah the Texans players should shut up and stop it but it doesn't change the basic problem--the Peyton Colts running up the score for whatever reason whether it be padding stats or childish retribution for being delayed 30 seconds by a time out.

When the Jags are classier than you, you have a problem.

TK_Gamer
09-21-2006, 09:20 AM
Nice article. Didn't really think about it this way... the drive before halftime proves it.

I think he's trying to pad his numbers for a HOF run. And we helped his case.

its not padding his numbers, it's called beating the spread, if they didnt score another touchdown the spread would have been 13, and the vegas line was 13 1/2. I thought it was completely uncalled for, and should be investigated by the league. most teams would have run the clock out with that kinda lead and put in their backups. I gotta cry foul on this. anyone else thought of that?

Texans_Chick
09-21-2006, 09:33 AM
just an FYI




http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Dungy wanted to sub the offense but since you guys scored so quick we could not take the chance you guys coming back and winning it.
Also those timeouts your coach called with about 3 minutes left obviously pissed Peyton and Co. Off which is when he threw the bomb to Reggie and we tried to score.
Your team was still playing to win why shouldn't the Colts? :deadhorse
just thought you would like to know the real scoop instead of assuming Peyton is out to pad his stats.

That's what Dungy says, but that is not what happened.


This is the first Colts offensive series after the score is 30-3 at the end of the third, beginning of the fourth:

1-10-IND36 (1:36) P.Manning pass short middle to D.Rhodes to IND 42 for 6 yards (D.McCleon).
2-4-IND42 (:55) P.Manning pass short right to M.Harrison pushed ob at HST 41 for 17 yards (D.Robinson).
1-10-HOU41 (:26) D.Rhodes right guard to HST 35 for 6 yards (Tr.Johnson).
Fourth Quarter
Indianapolis Colts continued...
2-4-HOU35 (15:00) P.Manning sacked at HST 45 for -10 yards (J.Babin).
3-14-HOU45 (14:24) (Shotgun) P.Manning pass incomplete deep right to M.Harrison.
4-14-HOU45 (14:20) H.Smith punts 45 yards to end zone, Center-J.Snow, Touchback.

Kansas City was able to keep pounding the ball against the Texans to the tune of a record setting day for Larry Johnson last year. And keeping the Texans offense off of the field. But the Peyton needs to throw it 4 out of 5 times when the Colts are up by 27 at the beginning of the fourth?

He was very fortunate that Babin didn't end the Colts season because Indy apparently can't run the ball up by 27 against the 32nd ranked defense in the league.

One third of the Colts players have injuries this week. link (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9674396) Not Peyton of course because of his Satan deal.

BigBull17
09-21-2006, 09:36 AM
Yep, it was pretty crappy of the Colts to do. I understand if your up 20 in the third quarter and you keep throwing, you never coast, but with 2 minutes left? I understand that their back-up was hurt and Peyton had to stay in, but its called running plays. This is the kinda thing they do that makes you smile every year when they choke in the playoffs. Heres to watching them get pounded in the playoffs. It couldnt happen to a better team. Enjoy those stats Marino Jr., its all you will have when your career is over.

FILO_girl
09-21-2006, 12:09 PM
I just don't understand the pure hatred against Peyton from some of our fans. It is the typical jealous response...if he isn't on our team and is THAT good, he is bad! That is so childish. I am not a drooling fan of his, but I can appreciate the fact he is damn good and seems down to earth. He holds higher respect with me that our own starting QB, because he earned it.

C'mon folks, don't give us our fandom the moniker of "Bitterest Fan Base" or "Sorest Sports". We have enough of our own internal drama to keep us occupied for the year. It is OK to dislike him for being on the enemy team and taking our lunch money and giving us a wedgie for the last 4 years. Don't hate on a good player, find ways to beat the player. :)

Put the horse shoe on your foot. If it were David Carr doing this to the Colts (quit laughing, I can hear you clear in Katy!), would this be an issue? 'Course not. So why make it one now?

GP
09-21-2006, 01:39 PM
For a moment, I was also wanting Peyton to get a nice injury--Not a career-ending injury, but perhaps just a small concussion or a fractured fibula or finger in his throwing hand...nothing too serious, just enough to put him on the shelf for 6 weeks or so. I admit it. I casually and briefly thought about it.

I was angry that he was still in there, racking up passing yards when the game was already won. He could have been nice. "Could have."

And that's when I realized something that I had mentioned in a thread I started that same day after the end of the game. It goes something like this:

...We as Texans fans THINK we have it bad for being in our condition, for our team's "woes," but we have nothing on Colts fan. Colts fan sees an unstoppable Colts team implode in the playoffs every year. Peyton watches everything crumble before his eyes, all that he worked for in the regular season evaporate so easily without seemingly being able to do anything about it.

Peyton is, for lack of a better word, "tormented" by the inability to get over the top.

And THAT is the worst kind of torment: To be at the doorstep, to ring the doorbell, and the door never open. You're there. You're dressed in your tux with the carnation in-hand, and your date doesn't open the door. Sucks, doesn't it? It's a whole lot worse when you KNEW you didn't have a date for the prom. At least you could move on to other things, at least you knew where you stood. But for Peyton, he will not stop until he gets the girl. He won't budge an inch until he walks through the gym doors on prom night with his date, ready to boogie down to some great disco music. And then, it'll be even worse. He will not be satisfied with one championship. If you thought Brett Favre was hard to get rid of, just wait until Peyton's time has come...that guy will not stop.

He is, IMO, more competitive and robotic than even Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. You don't understand: He DOES NOT see his wife the week of a game, which I think means that he must not see her all season long. I didn't even know he had a wife. Never knew it until they mentioned it in the game. Do you see her? Where IS she? He is focused on game film and practice and playing, and then repeating the whole process over as quickly as possible after game day is over. Dude is a freak. Period.

And so, it's no surprise to me (when I do the short math) that he stays in the game and continues to throw. Throws his helmet on the sideline when they have to punt in the 4th qtr. and they're up 342-10.

It's not personal against us. he isn't trying to insult us. He's viewing every play as perhaps the game-winning play in the championship game. He would play like that against a team of mentally challenged kids at a charity event. And that's OK. It stinks to be on the receiving end, but it's nothing personal...it's just "business."

Pact with the devil? Nah. Though that WAS a very funny article, TC. No, he's just not happy unless things are picture perfect. He could fit in well with the Count-the-floor-tile crowd or the Wash-your-hands-500-times group.

Rain Man.

TexansSeminole
09-21-2006, 01:53 PM
I've never seen fans whine so much because another team beat them.

eriadoc
09-21-2006, 02:02 PM
Put the horse shoe on your foot. If it were David Carr doing this to the Colts (quit laughing, I can hear you clear in Katy!), would this be an issue? 'Course not. So why make it one now?

If we were running the score up on any team, with a history of defeating them easily, or even no history at all, then yes, I would take issue with my team doing that. Texans (people, not team) are supposed to be hospitable and classy. Run the clock out, convert for a first down however you need to, and win. There's no need to rub it in anyone's face.

At this point, however, I'm all for the team rubbing it in the Colts' face when they get the chance (or any Dungy-led team, for that matter). As I said in another post (http://forums.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=445875&postcount=57), it really wouldn't hurt my feelings if they laid a few late hits on Manning, as much for a tactical "reminder" as a way to win. I agree we need to stop Manning - separate point.

The Pencil Neck
09-21-2006, 02:57 PM
If we were running the score up on any team, with a history of defeating them easily, or even no history at all, then yes, I would take issue with my team doing that. Texans (people, not team) are supposed to be hospitable and classy. Run the clock out, convert for a first down however you need to, and win. There's no need to rub it in anyone's face.

I wasn't really considering what the Colts were doing as "running up the score". They were just winning the game. I have no problem with that. If they had let up on offense and stopped scoring, then there would have been a possibility for us to come back and win that thing. They didn't start running the ball to try to run the clock down because I don't think they thought they could. They just kept doing what was working. Which is just good football.


I mean, look at the Eagles. They stopped doing what had been winning the game for them and started trying to just run out the clock. They stopped moving the ball and scoring and the Giants were able to come back and snatch that victory from them. The Colts were just playing smart football to keep us from doing the same.

eriadoc
09-21-2006, 03:02 PM
just an FYI




http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=4059

Dungy wanted to sub the offense but since you guys scored so quick we could not take the chance you guys coming back and winning it.
Also those timeouts your coach called with about 3 minutes left obviously pissed Peyton and Co. Off which is when he threw the bomb to Reggie and we tried to score.
Your team was still playing to win why shouldn't the Colts? :deadhorse
just thought you would like to know the real scoop instead of assuming Peyton is out to pad his stats.


I wasn't really considering what the Colts were doing as "running up the score". They were just winning the game. I have no problem with that. If they had let up on offense and stopped scoring, then there would have been a possibility for us to come back and win that thing. They didn't start running the ball to try to run the clock down because I don't think they thought they could. They just kept doing what was working. Which is just good football.


I mean, look at the Eagles. They stopped doing what had been winning the game for them and started trying to just run out the clock. They stopped moving the ball and scoring and the Giants were able to come back and snatch that victory from them. The Colts were just playing smart football to keep us from doing the same.

Consider this - the Eagles beat the Texans handily. They took the ball with about 9:00 left in the 4th quarter in that game and the Texans never saw the ball again. They could have easily bombed TDs to Stallworth for the entirety of the 4th quarter (it's not like we were stopping them at all), but they chose to run the clock out and go away with a win that didn't involve running up the score any worse than it had to be. You're telling me the Colts couldn't have done that? :ok:

Double Barrel
09-21-2006, 03:35 PM
I've never seen fans whine so much because another team beat them.

You don't have a lot of experience with Cowboys fans, 'eh? :heh: Sorry, couldn't resist

Vinny
09-21-2006, 04:07 PM
Kansas City was able to keep pounding the ball against the Texans to the tune of a record setting day for Larry Johnson last year. And keeping the Texans offense off of the field. But the Peyton needs to throw it 4 out of 5 times when the Colts are up by 27 at the beginning of the fourth?KC was a pound it out offense but the Colts aren't. We had no pressure and no coverage so we were easy pickings. We weren't facing a team looking for a way to lose the game.

WWJD
09-21-2006, 04:59 PM
I find it this way..

If it's a team I am for don't complain if we keep trying to score. That's what our guys are paid for and you play for 60 minutes!

If it's against a team I am for please don't keep throwing and trying to score! You are running up the score and just padding your stats.

The Pencil Neck
09-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Consider this - the Eagles beat the Texans handily. They took the ball with about 9:00 left in the 4th quarter in that game and the Texans never saw the ball again. They could have easily bombed TDs to Stallworth for the entirety of the 4th quarter (it's not like we were stopping them at all), but they chose to run the clock out and go away with a win that didn't involve running up the score any worse than it had to be. You're telling me the Colts couldn't have done that?


I don't think Dungy trusts his running game that much. Besides why change what's working? That's a mistake a lot of teams make. You're ahead, you take the air out of the ball, you lose your momentum, you stop picking up the third downs, and you get pantsed on national TV.

But you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If we had been able to pick off some of those passes and come back, then the Colts look like *****s for not running it. If they start running it and we stuff them and come back, then the Colts look like *****s for going away from the winning combination. The bottom line is we didn't stop them. If you take the air out of the ball and win, you look good but if you start running clock and end up losing, then you don't have the killer instinct.

To my mind, the Colts just finished the game like pros.