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Ironist
09-17-2006, 01:11 PM
It seems to me that everyone here is totally in favor of benching Carr for Rosenfels. They seem to think that all of our woes can be blamed on him. They say he is playing terribly, and I have to wonder...am I watching someone different?

This season, Carr has completed over 70% of his passes for nearly 300 yards and 1 TD. How is that so terrible? He finds open recievers DESPITE terrible protection.

Our problem is NOT Carr. If Rosenfels were in right now, the score would be 17-0 COLTS. DAVID CARR IS PLAYING FINE; our problem is that our defense cannot stop a single dang thing. Benching Carr is not the answer; he's doing his part. Our O-line needs to buy him some more time (imagine, 80% completion) and our defense needs to STEP IT UP.

David Carr is not the problem.

The Dream
09-17-2006, 01:12 PM
nice picture

RTP2110
09-17-2006, 01:24 PM
I just picture Maury opening up that envelope......David Carr........you are NOT the problem!!!!!!

Divebomb
09-17-2006, 01:33 PM
I guess you are watching some QB I have failed to see. David Carr, 2 fumbles, major case of short pass syndrome, chocking his butt off! I dont see a poised QB, the protection is looking good, his decision making is killing the Texans. He sucks!!!!!!

Wolf
09-17-2006, 02:16 PM
when a team can't run the ball ..it makes it really tough

And Carr isn't in the league with the QB's that can overcome a missing running game

CMoak1982
09-17-2006, 03:23 PM
Divebomb you just ruined your credibility by saying the protection was good, the pocket was collapsing on both sides. Your hatred towards Carr is not letting you see the total picture.

BattleRedRaider
09-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Divebomb you just ruined your credibility by saying the protection was good, the pocket was collapsing on both sides. Your hatred towards Carr is not letting you see the total picture.

When did he ever have credibility to begin with?

Ckw
09-17-2006, 03:26 PM
I guess you are watching some QB I have failed to see. David Carr, 2 fumbles, major case of short pass syndrome, chocking his butt off! I dont see a poised QB, the protection is looking good, his decision making is killing the Texans. He sucks!!!!!!
So far all I have seen is most people on the board not liking this guy, yet he knows everything about football and holds the secret to success? Hmmmm.....

RTP2110
09-17-2006, 03:26 PM
I guess you are watching some QB I have failed to see. David Carr, 2 fumbles, major case of short pass syndrome, chocking his butt off! I dont see a poised QB, the protection is looking good, his decision making is killing the Texans. He sucks!!!!!!



Hmmm, Divebomb = SWTbound maybe???

Divebomb
09-17-2006, 03:28 PM
So far all I have seen is most people on the board not liking this guy, yet he knows everything about football and holds the secret to success? Hmmmm.....

It does not take a Rocket Scientist to realize that Carr is the problem. You guys should wake up!

Texans86
09-17-2006, 03:31 PM
It does not take a Rocket Scientist to realize that Carr is the problem. You guys should wake up!

You must be much smarter than I am. I can't believe Carr throws for three touchdowns, zero INTs and still is hated for the job he is doing. He might have the best TD to INT ratio in the league currently. With 427 yards passing, and a QB rating of around 126. I fail to see the terrible player so many others do. Guess I'm just an idiot.

run-david-run
09-17-2006, 03:32 PM
It does not take a Rocket Scientist to realize that Carr is the problem. You guys should wake up!
How can you possibly say that when we gave up 43 points? really...that baffles me

Divebomb
09-17-2006, 03:33 PM
You must be much smarter than I am. I can't believe Carr throws for three touchdowns, zero INTs and still is hated for the job he is doing. He might have the best TD to INT ratio in the league currently. With 427 yards passing, and a QB rating of around 126. I fail to see the terrible player so many others do. Guess I'm just an idiot.


Stats lie!!!! Did you watch the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Quarters????????????

Texans86
09-17-2006, 03:36 PM
Stats lie!!!! Did you watch the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Quarters????????????
Watched the first and second until the game went out in the third. From what I could tell he was spreading the ball around and trying to move the chains. The two fumbles I saw were where he and center were not together and where his line didn't hold up for him. That second one was close to the foward motion rule, but I could tell why they didn't call it. The one drive where they were finally putting it all together, Wali fumbles it. Yes I saw the game, and I saw the defense let Manning walk all over them. I rarely saw anyone covering his recievers. The defense helped up lose today, not David.

TexanExile
09-17-2006, 03:36 PM
Stats lie? How about these stats:

QBs who Rosenfels failed to beat out of a starting job
Jay Fiedler
AJ Feeley
Gus Frerotte
Brian Griese
Ray Lucas

All those guys have really rocked the league, too, haven't they?
Hey, he DID manage to hold off Brock Berlin and even moved up to #2 before coming here, so yeah, he's definitely the answer.

Was it last year's start for Miami, where he got benched at halftime because he was so bad, that gives you the confidence that Saint Sage is the answer?

Please. Benching Carr, the situation would have been exactly what it was today. My feelings about Carr, pro or con, are irrelevant. This team is bleeding profusely on defense and just possibly lost 2 starters on the O-line. Way, way too many other BIG problems to be obsessing over an alleged QB problem that has no immediate solution.

texflex513
09-17-2006, 03:37 PM
It seems to me that everyone here is totally in favor of benching Carr for Rosenfels. They seem to think that all of our woes can be blamed on him. They say he is playing terribly, and I have to wonder...am I watching someone different?

This season, Carr has completed over 70% of his passes for nearly 300 yards and 1 TD. How is that so terrible? He finds open recievers DESPITE terrible protection.

Our problem is NOT Carr. If Rosenfels were in right now, the score would be 17-0 COLTS. DAVID CARR IS PLAYING FINE; our problem is that our defense cannot stop a single dang thing. Benching Carr is not the answer; he's doing his part. Our O-line needs to buy him some more time (imagine, 80% completion) and our defense needs to STEP IT UP.

David Carr is not the problem.

Im with you on this.... Carr is playing as good as he can with the protection or lack there of that he is recieving.

K.D.
09-17-2006, 03:39 PM
Aside from Divebomb's personal vendetta against Carr, he made up from his mistakes. The fumble on the first series was his fault, but the guy bounced back and showed that he could lead us. Oue secondary is what's going to kill us this year, no doubt about it.

HoustonFan
09-17-2006, 03:40 PM
This is all Casserly and Capers' fault.

Texans86
09-17-2006, 03:41 PM
This is all Casserly and Capers' fault.

It's their fault that right now Carr is probably in the top half in passing, top ten in TDs and probably number one in completion percentage? I think you are giving them a little too much credit.

Hulk75
09-17-2006, 03:45 PM
I guess you are watching some QB I have failed to see. David Carr, 2 fumbles, major case of short pass syndrome, chocking his butt off! I dont see a poised QB, the protection is looking good, his decision making is killing the Texans. He sucks!!!!!!
Gimmie a break..............1st fumble the snap never got to him, watch it again, Davids hands are right were they should be, mike never got the ball to him.

second he lost cause he was hit, he got the ball back, so what?

Haters, pure HATERS cant admitt when your wrong I love it........... Carr is playing well, let me run down what the problem is.

D-E-F-E-N-S-E.................!!!!!!!!!!!SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell Andre to play more like Moulds cause he is being shown up by a guy that has a lot of age on him. Catch the freakin ball Andre.

Not one person can sit here and tell me Carr is the reason we lost this game, nobody can cause your just lying to yourself. Idiotic for anyone to say otherwise.

BE A MAN STAND UP AND ADMIT WHEN YOUR WRONG. David Carr is throwing the best he ever has, fix the Defense then come talk to me.

GoTexans
09-17-2006, 03:54 PM
when a team can't run the ball ..it makes it really tough

And Carr isn't in the league with the QB's that can overcome a missing running game

I'd say 22/26 209 yards, 3 TDS, 0 INTS, Is overcoming a missing running game.

GoTexans
09-17-2006, 03:56 PM
Stats lie!!!! Did you watch the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Quarters????????????

Yes Carr looked great. Get a clue, moron.

The Pencil Neck
09-17-2006, 04:04 PM
It's been said over and over but I want to add my voice.

Carr is not the problem here. The defense is our problem. We can't stop anyone.

I also agree with Ibar, I think we need to look at using the pass to set up the run. Our passing game is working a lot better than our running game at this point but that might change when we start Dayne or Gado over Lundy.

edo783
09-17-2006, 04:07 PM
Gimmie a break..............1st fumble the snap never got to him, watch it again, Davids hands are right were they should be, mike never got the ball to him.

second he lost cause he was hit, he got the ball back, so what?

Haters, pure HATERS cant admitt when your wrong I love it........... Carr is playing well, let me run down what the problem is.

D-E-F-E-N-S-E.................!!!!!!!!!!!SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell Andre to play more like Moulds cause he is being shown up by a guy that has a lot of age on him. Catch the freakin ball Andre.

Not one person can sit here and tell me Carr is the reason we lost this game, nobody can cause your just lying to yourself. Idiotic for anyone to say otherwise.

BE A MAN STAND UP AND ADMIT WHEN YOUR WRONG. David Carr is throwing the best he ever has, fix the Defense then come talk to me.

Says I have to waite to give the rep to ya . Good post though. There are those on this board who would dance with glee if Carr was hit by a truck and it killed him, his family, his mom and dad and then they would complain that his grandparents are still alive and would be calling for vigilaties to cut them down in a hail of bullets. I have never seen a team have such a group of loser fans that hate their QB with such viamence..