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TexansFight
09-07-2006, 11:13 AM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

real
09-07-2006, 11:20 AM
The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

There have been threads on this very MB criticizing some of the local media for being too harsh on the Texans...:tease:


I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

I don't know about intimidating, but Peyton himself said that he doesn't like playing in Reliant because of the rowdy atmosphere....:wild:

cuppacoffee
09-07-2006, 11:25 AM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.


Sounds more like the visiting fans are intimidated...:D

Soccer fans come to mind when I hear that.


:coffee:

SESupergenius
09-07-2006, 11:26 AM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.
Nah, I'm sorry, I don't want to be a fan like you. You bring this team down.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 11:32 AM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

Yeah, the sports action that I have been to while living here in Houston -- the fans are laid back and they just like the cheering rituals with the music and the clapping. They do not really get into like most NFL team's fans. Hopefully that will change with time. There are some rowdy fans so it's not that bad. It's not like San Fran or anything. LOL!

HOU-TEX
09-07-2006, 11:33 AM
There have been threads on this very MB criticizing some of the local media for being too harsh on the Texans...:tease:




I don't know about intimidating, but Peyton himself said that he doesn't like playing in Reliant because of the rowdy atmosphere....:wild:

Definetly can't tell from the way he plays when he's here.:)

F-minus67
09-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Yeah, we should be like eagles fans so we can cheer when someone has a career ending injury and also boo santa.:whip:

Double Barrel
09-07-2006, 11:40 AM
Wish Texans Fans were more like Eagles fans

yeah, we need more batteries and bags of pee to be thrown at games. :um: riiiiight

Passion comes with winning games. It's a simple formula.

Texans_Chick
09-07-2006, 11:44 AM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

I don't see why it is incompatible to be completely passionate for your team but not a thug.

Some of the best home field advantages in the league are at places that are loud but the fans have some of the friendliest tailgates you can find.

Last year had very little to cheer about, but in 2004, there were times where at the field level I could not hear myself yell because it was so loud.

Speaking of the 700 level, here is something I wrote (http://www.the700level.com/2006/09/texans_preview_.html) for the blogger for The700Level.com who is also the Eagles Fanhouse blogger. He wrote something for the Chronicle blog as soon as the Chronic people get around to publishing it. (They have been slooooooow lately in publishing my stuff. Sorry about that).

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 11:45 AM
yeah, we need more batteries and bags of pee to be thrown at games. :um: riiiiight

Passion comes with winning games. It's a simple formula.


That was at the Vet and the 700 Club (love those guys). It was 3 or 4 people who threw batteries. I saw a Texans fan spit on a Chiefs fan and I do not go around saying all Texans fans spit at people. Geeesh! LOL!

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 11:48 AM
Yeah, we should be like eagles fans so we can cheer when someone has a career ending injury and also boo santa.:whip:

Can't you guys come up with something a little more present? A little more fresh? The Santa booing happened in the 60s for pete's sake. The guy was a dirty drunk bum.

As for Irvin, yes... that was sad that a couple thousand fans cheered. You take your most hated enemy and see him go down, still should not cheer it. I know I wouldn't.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 11:53 AM
I don't see why it is incompatible to be completely passionate for your team but not a thug.

Some of the best home field advantages in the league are at places that are loud but the fans have some of the friendliest tailgates you can find.

Last year had very little to cheer about, but in 2004, there were times where at the field level I could not hear myself yell because it was so loud.

Speaking of the 700 level, here is something I wrote (http://www.the700level.com/2006/09/texans_preview_.html) for the blogger for The700Level.com who is also the Eagles Fanhouse blogger. He wrote something for the Chronicle blog as soon as the Chronic people get around to publishing it. (They have been slooooooow lately in publishing my stuff. Sorry about that).

Read that write up. Very nice. Yes, Reliant can be ver, very loud. Cannot wait until Sunday... tailgate and Eagles football. :shades:

LBC_Justin
09-07-2006, 12:06 PM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.
You have to WIN. People get passionate and loud for their WINNING team.

For example. I have been to a Pittsburgh Steelers games and to a Pittsburgh Pirates game in the same week a few years ago. The Pirate fans seemed pathetic, while the Steelers fans were fanatical. Basically the same people, infact half the people at the Pirates game had on Steeler jerseys.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 12:09 PM
You have to WIN. People get passionate and loud for their WINNING team.

For example. I have been to a Pittsburgh Steelers games and to a Pittsburgh Pirates game in the same week a few years ago. The Pirate fans seemed pathetic, while the Steelers fans were fanatical. Basically the same people, infact half the people at the Pirates game had on Steeler jerseys.

and the Eagles were a winning team all of these decades? I think not. PA is a football state and it is clear to see that. It is not a baseball state whatsoever.

PhillyFan
09-07-2006, 12:12 PM
Can't you guys come up with something a little more present? A little more fresh? The Santa booing happened in the 60s for pete's sake. The guy was a dirty drunk bum.

As for Irvin, yes... that was sad that a couple thousand fans cheered. You take your most hated enemy and see him go down, still should not cheer it. I know I wouldn't.


Santa was in 1968. And he was a filthy drunken bum, correct.


The only reason people were cheering about the Irvin thing, is because it looked like he got the wind knocked out of him or something. It was an ordinary play, and he didnt get up.

infantrycak
09-07-2006, 12:14 PM
The only reason people were cheering about the Irvin thing, is because it looked like he got the wind knocked out of him or something. It was an ordinary play, and he didnt get up.

BS--they were still cheering as he got braced up and carted off the field.

HOU-TEX
09-07-2006, 12:14 PM
You have to WIN. People get passionate and loud for their WINNING team.

For example. I have been to a Pittsburgh Steelers games and to a Pittsburgh Pirates game in the same week a few years ago. The Pirate fans seemed pathetic, while the Steelers fans were fanatical. Basically the same people, infact half the people at the Pirates game had on Steeler jerseys.

The Pirates and the Steelers should not be in the same league comparatively speaking. When was the last time the fans have had something to cheer about at a Pirates game? Versus the Steelers having so much success over the years.:twocents:

edit: Sorry, I just saw the first sentence of your post. My bad

PhillyFan
09-07-2006, 12:15 PM
BS--they were still cheering as he got braced up and carted off the field.


If you have video on that, I would be more than happy to see it.

I was at the game, and noone anywhere near me was cheering.

A lot of open mouths and gasping, but no cheering.

infantrycak
09-07-2006, 12:20 PM
If you have video on that, I would be more than happy to see it.

I was at the game, and noone anywhere near me was cheering.

A lot of open mouths and gasping, but no cheering.

So I guess what I saw on TV along with the players and coaches was all wrong: :ok:

JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News

PHILADELPHIA As Michael Irvin lay crumpled and motionless on the Veterans Stadium turf Sunday afternoon, many of the Eagles' fans began cheering.

The longer Irvin remained on the ground during the Cowboys' 13-10 loss, the more the crowd roared. The cheers reached an apex, when a stretcher was brought onto the field for Irvin.

"It disgusted me to death," Emmitt Smith said. "It's just a game. That's what it's called - a game. Life. Being paralyzed. Death. Anything outside of the game is reality. No matter how you look at it, sports is sports but a human being is playing the sport.

"I understand people want to cheer for their team and they want their team to win, but when you see an individual laying down there motionless, there's no need to cheer. There's nothing joyful about watching a person get hurt."

The injury occurred when Irvin caught an eight-yard slant in the first quarter. He tried to break a tackle and dipped his head when he saw safety Tim Hauck about to hit him.

The top of his head slammed into the turf. The injury was diagnosed as a swelling in his spinal cord.

Irvin, who will not play next week against the New York Giants, spent Sunday night at the Thomas Jefferson University Spinal Trauma Center.

Philadelphia has a reputation for having some of the most boisterous and raucous fans in the NFL. They also have a reputation for having fans who are hard to control.

A few years ago, the city actually put a court in the stadium so people who misbehaved during the game could be quickly sentenced.

The fans' behavior on Sunday left players and coaches on both teams seething.

"To me there's no excuse for that," coach Chan Gailey said. "I'm disappointed it happened. That's the nicest term I can use. I better not say anything else."

Philadelphia receiver Charles Johnson, who scored the winning touchdown, said the crowd's reaction embarrassed him.

"The most disgusting thing was when the stretcher came out, and they started cheering again," Johnson said. "The fans usually end up hating the good athletes, but he's a human being. He has a family and he's getting wheeled off on a stretcher, it puts everything in perspective."

For a while, Smith said, an incident like that can inspire a team because they feed off the anger created by the crowd's reaction. But, he said, it quickly wears off.

"You realize that you're on the football field minus one of your teammates," he said, "but eventually you have to get over it."

Link (http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/webspecials/michaelirvin/101199irvin.html)

Y'all really need to stop trying to act as if the whole episode was not a sorry piece of history.

Snapple
09-07-2006, 12:25 PM
I think I understand what TexansFight is saying.

Really passionate fans aren't afraid to ride their team. They don't just clap like trained seals everytime the front office makes a move, as if they're always right. Philly fans complain about their team so much, because that's how much they care about winning. If the Eagles do something wrong, the fans are going to let them know about it.

Now, that doesn't mean Philly fans are all good. If anything, they're like the polar opposite extreme. Some Texans fans are extremely blindly optimistic to a fault, and some Philly fans are negative to a fault.

I would like to be somewhere in the middle. Where I'm not afraid to challenge the decisions of the Texans, because I care about where the team is going, yet I'm not so negative that I become a jackass.

I do not think that if you boo a decision, or if you boo a terrible performance, that it makes you a bad fan.

I think that while the Texans are better this year than last year, there are still a lot of problems with the team. And I think it's naive to assume that we don't still have a lot of holes (and I mean beyond just the QB), and to assume that all or even half of the players that we drafted will make it in the NFL. We don't know that yet.

Kaiser Toro
09-07-2006, 12:27 PM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

Being lewd, crude and obnoxious is not a qualifier for being a great fan. When you need to keep a pokey at the location it says all I need to know about the mental state that Philly fan is in. What they are is more plugged into the Eastern media that drives the sports channels. Regurgitating baseless info only shows a good rote memory and not necessarily accurate observations.

Double Barrel
09-07-2006, 12:28 PM
That was at the Vet and the 700 Club (love those guys). It was 3 or 4 people who threw batteries. I saw a Texans fan spit on a Chiefs fan and I do not go around saying all Texans fans spit at people. Geeesh! LOL!

When Reliant gets a jail and working court system built beneath it, call me.

C'mon, man, Philly fans have been well known as some of the most rowdy, passionate, obnoxious, and downright hostile fans in the NFL. Your people are close to being European soccer fans. Embrace your image. It is what it is, your entire history speaks volumes over your attempted spin in this thread. :shades:

EF55
09-07-2006, 12:33 PM
You guys are a little like us in several ways;

1. You have stuck with your team thru the bad, very eagle like, believe me we've had plenty bad, and one thing about philly fans is they support the team even when the team isn't good. We may boo and complain but we show up. In fact I beleive you will see a lot of green in your stands on Sunday, a 6-10 season doesn't chase us away, it makes us hungrier.

2. Your kind of the step child team of Texas much like Philly is considered a second tier city to New York, and with the Steelers being across the state with thier 5 lombardis. It is much like the Cowboys acouple hundred miles up I45 with thiers So you are constantly clammoring for respect, We understand.

3. Your City is the 4th Largest City in the US, Philly was for decades the 4th largest city until replaced by Houston, I think demographically and socio-economically we are very similar as afan base. Although any City that doesn't have a commuter train system doesn't really seem llike a "City" to me.

4. We share a distaste for all things Cowboy

Where we differ a little;
1. Is that we boo a lot when people don't do thier job. Santa clause didn't do his job, he was a bad Santa from all accounts. Athletes will tell you they would like to have fans like philly fans. I've heard Darren Woodson say that he wished Dallas fans had our passion. Ask former Philly athletes like Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Larry Bowa, or Ron Jaworski and they will tell you there is no place like home when you play in Philly.

2. Eagle fans are traditionally bred not aquired, although all are welcome whereas all texans fans are new and without tradition yet. Not a slight just a fact. We have generational loyal fan hood.

As far as fan violence it's just more hyped by the media than Chicago or New York. When was the last time a fan came out onto the feild to fight a player in Philly like Detroit or Chicago. I'm not saying it's the friendliest place to be a visitor it's definitely not but it's not any different than Chicago. I've been to Comiski park, Wrigley Feild, the United Center, & Soldier field many times and I've seen the same things and more there. Any tough city is going to be that way. There's a swagger to the fans it's just life and it's an identity. It's the way you want your players to be on the field of battle (take away the booze).

You can point out the isolated examples of battery throwing and booing for injured players but that's not unique to Philly. Those were mistakes & bad judgements and they don't represent every Eagle Fan. People have a tendency to confuse our passion with those random occurences.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 12:36 PM
If you have video on that, I would be more than happy to see it.

I was at the game, and noone anywhere near me was cheering.

A lot of open mouths and gasping, but no cheering.


I have the video for it. There was only maybe a couple thousand people cheering. It was classless no matter how much they hate the guy and he was a bad guy.

Here is the Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urpFerqxmD0

even the Eagles players were telling the fans to pipe down. They should have stopped when the stretcher came out.

Kaiser Toro
09-07-2006, 12:37 PM
You guys are a little like us in several ways;

1. You have stuck with your team thru the bad, very eagle like, believe me we've had plenty bad, and one thing about philly fans is they support the team even when the team isn't good. We may boo and complain but we show up. In fact I beleive you will see a lot of green in your stands on Sunday, a 6-10 season doesn't chase us away, it makes us hungrier.

2. Your kind of the step child team of Texas much like Philly is considered a second tier city to New York, and with the Steelers being across the state with thier 5 lombardis. It is much like the Cowboys acouple hundred miles up I45 with thiers So you are constantly clammoring for respect, We understand.

3. Your City is the 4th Largest City in the US, Philly was for decades the 4th largest city until replaced by Houston, I think demographically and socio-economically we are very similar as afan base. Although any City that doesn't have a commuter train system doesn't really seem llike a "City" to me.

4. We share a distaste for all things Cowboy

Where we differ a little;
1. Is that we boo a lot when people don't do thier job. Santa clause didn't do his job, he was a bad Santa from all accounts. Athletes will tell you they would like to have fans like philly fans. I've heard Darren Woodson say that he wished Dallas fans had our passion. Ask former Philly athletes like Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Larry Bowa, or Ron Jaworski and they will tell you there is no place like home when you play in Philly.

2. Eagle fans are traditionally bred not aquired, although all are welcome whereas all texans fans are new and without tradition yet. Not a slight just a fact. We have generational loyal fan hood.

As far as fan violence it's just more hyped by the media than Chicago or New York. When was the last time a fan came out onto the feild to fight a player in Philly like Detroit or Chicago. I'm not saying it's the friendliest place to be a visitor it's definitely not but it's not any different than Chicago. I've been to Comiski park, Wrigley Feild, the United Center, & Soldier field many times and I've seen the same things and more there. Any tough city is going to be that way. There's a swagger to the fans it's just life and it's an identity. It's the way you want your players to be on the field of battle (take away the booze).

You can point out the isolated examples of battery throwing and booing for injured players but that's not unique to Philly. Those were mistakes & bad judgements and they don't represent every Eagle Fan. People have a tendency to confuse our passion with those random occurences.

Good post and obviously I concur.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 12:39 PM
When Reliant gets a jail and working court system built beneath it, call me.

C'mon, man, Philly fans have been well known as some of the most rowdy, passionate, obnoxious, and downright hostile fans in the NFL. Your people are close to being European soccer fans. Embrace your image. It is what it is, your entire history speaks volumes over your attempted spin in this thread. :shades:


Almost every stadium in the country has a judge at the game and a jail cell. Yes, we are passionate, rowdy, and downright hostile. :shades: And I am proud of that. Kind of saddens my that the 700 club is gone and those fans cannot afford to go to the games at the Linc but we are still a rowdy bunch.

PhillyFan
09-07-2006, 12:39 PM
As far as fan violence it's just more hyped by the media than Chicago or New York. When was the last time a fan came out onto the feild to fight a player in Philly like Detroit or Chicago. I'm not saying it's the friendliest place to be a visitor it's definitely not but it's not any different than Chicago. I've been to Comiski park, Wrigley Feild, the United Center, & Soldier field many times and I've seen the same things and more there. Any tough city is going to be that way. There's a swagger to the fans it's just life and it's an identity. It's the way you want your players to be on the field of battle (take away the booze).

You can point out the isolated examples of battery throwing and booing for injured players but that's not unique to Philly. Those were mistakes & bad judgements and they don't represent every Eagle Fan. People have a tendency to confuse our passion with those random occurences.

Actually, we had a fan/player fight last Flyers season :p

Think it was barnaby in the box, and a fan started razzing him. Barnaby squirted water all over him and his wife, and the guy ended up falling into the box and getting pummeled.


However, fans in other citys are just as bad or worse. heck...in Cleveland, they throw bottles at the refs...but all is forgotten in a month.

You never hear anything about them...its always Philly this, Philly that.

A lot of people rag on us, and have never even been here. We just get hyped up by the media.

Ive been an Eagles fan since I was 5. And Ive been to about 100 or so games in my life. But I have only seen a handful of fights in those games, about 80% of which were in the infamous 700 level.

powerfuldragon
09-07-2006, 12:40 PM
You want us all to be more like eagles fans? that's easy... get hemmorhoids and throw empty beer cans at your children.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 12:47 PM
However, fans in other citys are just as bad or worse. heck...in Cleveland, they throw bottles at the refs...but all is forgotten in a month.



Seen that happen in Pittsburgh too. I used to go a lot of the games in 1997. I seen a Browns fan get the crap beat out of him because he started to cheer for his team although a Steelers fan told him to sit down and be quiet. Also saw a bunch of guys throwing ice cubes at players.

Double Barrel
09-07-2006, 01:06 PM
You guys are a little like us in several ways;

1. You have stuck with your team thru the bad, very eagle like, believe me we've had plenty bad, and one thing about philly fans is they support the team even when the team isn't good. We may boo and complain but we show up. In fact I beleive you will see a lot of green in your stands on Sunday, a 6-10 season doesn't chase us away, it makes us hungrier.

2. Your kind of the step child team of Texas much like Philly is considered a second tier city to New York, and with the Steelers being across the state with thier 5 lombardis. It is much like the Cowboys acouple hundred miles up I45 with thiers So you are constantly clammoring for respect, We understand.

3. Your City is the 4th Largest City in the US, Philly was for decades the 4th largest city until replaced by Houston, I think demographically and socio-economically we are very similar as afan base. Although any City that doesn't have a commuter train system doesn't really seem llike a "City" to me.

4. We share a distaste for all things Cowboy

Where we differ a little;
1. Is that we boo a lot when people don't do thier job. Santa clause didn't do his job, he was a bad Santa from all accounts. Athletes will tell you they would like to have fans like philly fans. I've heard Darren Woodson say that he wished Dallas fans had our passion. Ask former Philly athletes like Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Larry Bowa, or Ron Jaworski and they will tell you there is no place like home when you play in Philly.

2. Eagle fans are traditionally bred not aquired, although all are welcome whereas all texans fans are new and without tradition yet. Not a slight just a fact. We have generational loyal fan hood.

As far as fan violence it's just more hyped by the media than Chicago or New York. When was the last time a fan came out onto the feild to fight a player in Philly like Detroit or Chicago. I'm not saying it's the friendliest place to be a visitor it's definitely not but it's not any different than Chicago. I've been to Comiski park, Wrigley Feild, the United Center, & Soldier field many times and I've seen the same things and more there. Any tough city is going to be that way. There's a swagger to the fans it's just life and it's an identity. It's the way you want your players to be on the field of battle (take away the booze).

You can point out the isolated examples of battery throwing and booing for injured players but that's not unique to Philly. Those were mistakes & bad judgements and they don't represent every Eagle Fan. People have a tendency to confuse our passion with those random occurences.

Nice post, man, and interesting comparisons. You're right, Philly and Houston do have a lot more in common that I've realized. Of course, being a division rival of the Cowboys, I always root for the Eagle, Giants, or Redskins when they are not playing the Texans. Anything to get over on Dallass.

Houston does have it's share of a-hole fans, too. Drunk moron pooring beer on David Carr's wife at a game immediately comes to mind. There is no excuse for that behavior. Hopefully dufus is banned from Reliant for life.

aj.
09-07-2006, 01:08 PM
[Houston fans] do not really get into like most NFL team's fans.

Re:"most"

How many NFL cities have you lived in, or even opponent's stadiums, to draw that conclusion? (and what was the timing, i.e., was the team good or bad at the time)

I know exactly where this will lead since we've discussed it a billion times, but I was curious about your rationale for that statement.

Vinny
09-07-2006, 01:11 PM
3. Your City is the 4th Largest City in the US, Philly was for decades the 4th largest city until replaced by Houston, I think demographically and socio-economically we are very similar as afan base. Although any City that doesn't have a commuter train system doesn't really seem llike a "City" to me.
Houston is far larger than Philly as far as wide open space goes...we aren't piled on top of each other here and don't lack for square mileage. A commuter train set up to service the wide expanse of Houston would be monstrous as we are spread out much more than you are....I doubt it would work since we travel greater distances and we are not as close together as you guys are in our normal every day life.

afcman
09-07-2006, 01:12 PM
A winning season changes EVERYTHING. Nothing else matters. It's the NFL.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 01:17 PM
Re:"most"

How many NFL cities have you lived in, or even opponent's stadiums, to draw that conclusion? (and what was the timing, i.e., was the team good or bad at the time)

I know exactly where this will lead since we've discussed it a billion times, but I was curious about your rationale for that statement.

I have been in a lot of AWAY team stadiums. I had season tickets in 1997 for the Steelers although I was a Philly fan.... it was a gift. I lived in South Carolina for 5 years and went to some Carolina games. I have been to Cleveland for a Steeers-Cleveland game. I have been to Dallas' Texas Stadium for a MNF game. I have been to Miami for a Dolphins-Steelers game.

Does not matter if the team is doing bad or not... you get off that butt and go to a game if you are a football fan. Philly has had some really bad years and we still filled the seats.

Double Barrel
09-07-2006, 01:20 PM
Does not matter if the team is doing bad or not... you get off that butt and go to a game if you are a football fan. Philly has had some really bad years and we still filled the seats.

Very true, man. That's what passion and being a fanatic is all about. :redtowel:

aj.
09-07-2006, 01:20 PM
3. Your City is the 4th Largest City in the US, Philly was for decades the 4th largest city until replaced by Houston, I think demographically and socio-economically we are very similar as afan base. Although any City that doesn't have a commuter train system doesn't really seem llike a "City" to me.


For years, my sister lived in far northwest Harris county and I lived in far southeast. She was 55 miles from my house, had a different area code, and it was a long distance call to call her on a landline -- and both of our addresses were Houston. Up there, you can fit three or four states in that space, right?

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 01:24 PM
Houston is far larger than Philly as far as wide open space goes...we aren't piled on top of each other here and don't lack for square mileage. A commuter train set up to service the wide expanse of Houston would be monstrous as we are spread out much more than you are....I doubt it would work since we travel greater distances and we are not as close together as you guys are in our normal every day life.

Man, do some research before you say something like that. LOL! It's all good though since you have probably never lived in the Philly Tri-State area but here ya go:

http://www.septa.org/maps/click_map.html

Houston is working on a big rail system. Just going to take some time. Houston is a lot more widespread and that hurts the city but they can do it.

Vinny
09-07-2006, 01:30 PM
Man, do some research before you say something like that. LOL! It's all good though since you have probably never lived in the Philly Tri-State area but here ya go:

http://www.septa.org/maps/click_map.html

Houston is working on a big rail system. Just going to take some time. Houston is a lot more widespread and that hurts the city but they can do it.
Have you rode the metro rail? I have.... Its always empty. Hop on the train after a game...downtown is empty. So much for improving buisness on main. Any train service here will not service the entire city...it's just more wasted money.

I don't know why you give me a path to the Philly train...I said what works for Philly won't translate here.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Have you rode the metro rail? I have.... Its always empty. Hop on the train after a game...downtown is empty. So much for improving buisness on main. Any train service here will not service the entire city...it's just more wasted money.


Yeah, ride it quite a bit. It just does not go to many places yet so it will have it's up and downs with passenger totals. If the train service went from IAH to HOU airports -- then from downtown to Katy. Those trains would be packed. Sort of like St. Louis' rail system. They have it together there.

Vinny
09-07-2006, 01:40 PM
Yeah, ride it quite a bit. It just does not go to many places yet so it will have it's up and downs with passenger totals. If the train service went from IAH to HOU airports -- then from downtown to Katy. Those trains would be packed. Sort of like St. Louis' rail system. They have it together there.It takes me an hour to get to IAH from Clear lake on the freeway without traffic. This would be a massive huge money pit to lay rail all over Houston connecting to IAH....That's my entire point. What works for Philly won't work for Houston. I've lived all over the USA...I've seen all the big cities...and Houston is just not built like most big cities. We are much more spread out. When you have closer quarters this works....That little bit of metro down town has been a disaster. JMO

aj.
09-07-2006, 01:43 PM
I have been in a lot of AWAY team stadiums. I had season tickets in 1997 for the Steelers although I was a Philly fan.... it was a gift. I lived in South Carolina for 5 years and went to some Carolina games. I have been to Cleveland for a Steeers-Cleveland game. I have been to Dallas' Texas Stadium for a MNF game. I have been to Miami for a Dolphins-Steelers game.

Does not matter if the team is doing bad or not... you get off that butt and go to a game if you are a football fan. Philly has had some really bad years and we still filled the seats.


Reverse the fortunes of success in Dallas and Miami and their fans are no different than what we have in Houston, Atlanta, and other large southern/southwestern city with a high number of transplants from the north and northeast.

It's easy to have a great fan base when you win.

Give a team four or five years of 4-12 and even the "great" fans of the north and northeast will stay away from the stadium. I'm confident that attendance stats would prove that out (if they still counted no-shows).

El Tejano
09-07-2006, 01:46 PM
All I know is when I go to Houston and I am trying to get a section to stand up and get loud, everybody looks like I am crazy for thinking such a thing.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 01:57 PM
Reverse the fortunes of success in Dallas and Miami and their fans are no different than what we have in Houston, Atlanta, and other large southern/southwestern city with a high number of transplants from the north and northeast.

It's easy to have a great fan base when you win.

Give a team four or five years of 4-12 and even the "great" fans of the north and northeast will stay away from the stadium. I'm confident that attendance stats would prove that out (if they still counted no-shows).


You must be a lot younger than I because the Eagles stunk it up for a long while and so has the Redskins and others. They still packed it in. I guess it is because they are football crazy up there. I think one problem is that Houston is still a pretty young city and people are moving all the time from out of the area.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 01:58 PM
All I know is when I go to Houston and I am trying to get a section to stand up and get loud, everybody looks like I am crazy for thinking such a thing.


Heck with them people. Stand up, yell, and cheer for your team like a nutcase. You sir are a true fan. I salute you!

Wait until they see us Philly fans in there. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 02:01 PM
which way do you go? LMAO! Takes me 20 minutes to get downtown from IAH. I live in Kingwood and it takes me about 40 minutes to get to Pearland.

infantrycak
09-07-2006, 02:10 PM
We are much more spread out. When you have closer quarters this works....That little bit of metro down town has been a disaster. JMO

It also helps when the environment isn't such that if you have to get a mere 4 or 5 blocks off the route in business attire you aren't completely sweated thru most of the year.

Having said that, I understand there is a proposal to lay a 2nd set of tracks down on some of the existing railbeds and run commuter trains. As a commuter alternative (rather than an lifestyle no car alternative as in some cities) to certain areas of town it might work.

powerfuldragon
09-07-2006, 02:10 PM
I think one problem is that Houston is still a pretty young city and people are moving all the time from out of the area.
http://images.forbes.com/images/2001/04/26/bud_adams_250X260.jpg

EaglesFanPhila
09-07-2006, 02:23 PM
I take great pleasure in beating the crap out of opposing, smack talking fans. They deserve it. I continually practice the sleeper choke hold to randomly render the enemy unconscious! :stirpot:

HOU-TEX
09-07-2006, 02:23 PM
http://images.forbes.com/images/2001/04/26/bud_adams_250X260.jpg

Uhg, I almost tossed my cookies when I scrolled down and saw that hidious piece of flesh.:yikes:

edo783
09-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Having said that, I understand there is a proposal to lay a 2nd set of tracks down on some of the existing railbeds and run commuter trains.

Cool, then they can pick off people walking and cars at twice the rate they have been. I wonder if folks will ever figure out that Houston has rail and that they need to actually look for trains coming.:yikes:

FlyEaglesFly
09-07-2006, 05:20 PM
also boo santa.:whip::yawn: Wow, I have found another ignorant person who has heard the story one of the 10 million times ESPN has mentioned it. You don't know the circumstances, let it go for God's sake.

V Man
09-07-2006, 05:58 PM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.


I do see what he is trying to say, the Eagles do have some great fans. The only reason they may seem more passionate is because they have been doing it longer. The Texans fans or either new to the game or still getting back into the hang of it since the Oilers left (remember the old Luv yah Blue days, our fans' passion could rival anyones fans back then).

My problem is this is the second straight thread that he has started bashing the Texans in some sort of fashion. I am starting to think he is an Eagles fan in disguise. (trying hard not to give this guy some bad rep.)

Lucky
09-07-2006, 06:38 PM
My problem is this is the second straight thread that he has started bashing the Texans in some sort of fashion. I am starting to think he is an Eagles fan in disguise. (trying hard not to give this guy some bad rep.)
No, I'm pretty sure he's been a Titan fan (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=334358&postcount=1) since draft day.
I friggin hate what the Texans have done to this town.

Boxscore
09-07-2006, 06:48 PM
and the Eagles were a winning team all of these decades? I think not. PA is a football state and it is clear to see that. It is not a baseball state whatsoever.

I disagree. I think the Phillies baseball fans are some of the best and most knowledgable in pro baseball.

flylikeaneagle
09-07-2006, 06:51 PM
I disagree. I think the Phillies baseball fans are some of the best and most knowledgable in pro baseball.


Still a football town. Thanks though. lol

V Man
09-07-2006, 06:55 PM
No, I'm pretty sure he's been a Titan fan (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=334358&postcount=1) since draft day.

I am kinda suprised he hasn't started a "Philly's cheese steak is better than Houston's cheese steak" thread. At least that one would have been easier for him too win.:rolleyes:

aj.
09-07-2006, 07:06 PM
You must be a lot younger than I because the Eagles stunk it up for a long while and so has the Redskins and others. They still packed it in. I guess it is because they are football crazy up there. I think one problem is that Houston is still a pretty young city and people are moving all the time from out of the area.

Just for the heck of it, I took a random look at Philly's home attendance for a semi-stink year (1984 -- Marion Campbell days) when y'all went 6-9-1.

The Vet capacity was around 65k then and four of Philly's home games, the attendance was 54k, 50k, 55k (home opener that year against the Vikes), and 41k for the last game of the year against New England when the writing was on the wall.

That's anywhere from 10,000 to 24,000 no-shows for half of your home games. Not necessarily packing them in. Your games against Dallas, Washington and the Giants were very well attended.

I intentionally went back to an era when they counted no-shows. Like I said, it happens everywhere.

My source for this information is Total Football II by Carroll, Gershman, et al.

As far as my age, I recall watching guys like Bill Bradley and Tim Rossovich if that helps.

Vinny
09-07-2006, 07:27 PM
which way do you go? LMAO! Takes me 20 minutes to get downtown from IAH. I live in Kingwood and it takes me about 40 minutes to get to Pearland.I guess you haven't driven from Clear Lake/Friendswood to IAH. It takes me half an hour just to get downtown...easy. Add in your 20 mins and your lmao and that's right at an hour.

Boxscore
09-07-2006, 07:32 PM
Just for the heck of it, I took a random look at Philly's home attendance for a semi-stink year (1984 -- Marion Campbell days) when y'all went 6-9-1.

The Vet capacity was around 65k then and four of Philly's home games, the attendance was 54k, 50k, 55k (home opener that year against the Vikes), and 41k for the last game of the year against New England when the writing was on the wall.

That's anywhere from 10,000 to 24,000 no-shows for half of your home games. Not necessarily packing them in. Your games against Dallas, Washington and the Giants were very well attended.

I intentionally went back to an era when they counted no-shows. Like I said, it happens everywhere.

My source for this information is Total Football II by Carroll, Gershman, et al.

As far as my age, I recall watching guys like Bill Bradley and Tim Rossovich if that helps.

When I was growing up in the Philadelphia area, the Eagles were horrible. They had a QB named Norm Snead and a RB named Timmy Brown. The games were at Franklin field and since they were never sold out, they weren't even televised. The latest love affair with the Eagles didn't really get started in Philly until somewhere around the mid to late 70's.

FlyEaglesFly
09-07-2006, 07:42 PM
Just for the heck of it, I took a random look at Philly's home attendance for a semi-stink year (1984 -- Marion Campbell days) when y'all went 6-9-1.

The Vet capacity was around 65k then and four of Philly's home games, the attendance was 54k, 50k, 55k (home opener that year against the Vikes), and 41k for the last game of the year against New England when the writing was on the wall.

That's anywhere from 10,000 to 24,000 no-shows for half of your home games. Not necessarily packing them in. Your games against Dallas, Washington and the Giants were very well attended.

I intentionally went back to an era when they counted no-shows. Like I said, it happens everywhere.

My source for this information is Total Football II by Carroll, Gershman, et al.

As far as my age, I recall watching guys like Bill Bradley and Tim Rossovich if that helps.That's definitely a down year in attendance.

Here's a nice site for it: http://www.kenn.com/sports/football/nfl/nfl_phi_attendance.html

The early and mid 80's saw some seasons with only about 80-85 percent attendance, other than that fans regularly avg. about 65k.

Boxscore
09-07-2006, 08:04 PM
When I was growing up in the Philadelphia area, the Eagles were horrible. They had a QB named Norm Snead and a RB named Timmy Brown. The games were at Franklin field and since they were never sold out, they weren't even televised. The latest love affair with the Eagles didn't really get started in Philly until somewhere around the mid to late 70's.

The Eagles did beat Green Bay 17-13 in 1960 for the NFL Championship, but I was to young to remember that.

TexansFight
09-07-2006, 08:06 PM
Vinny,

The problem with Houston is that it is so spread out. If I had dictatorial powers and could do whatever I wanted I would prohibit any new construction outside of Loop 610. Houston can become a lot more dense. It sickens me how you see new crappy homogenous subdivisions miles outside of town spring up like mushrooms adding to the urban sprawl and environmental problems we have. Portland, Oregon effectively stopped sprawl and forced development within a confied area. I wish Houston had the foresight to do the same. Nevertheless, effective mass transit in Houston (I would love to see subways) would work. One of the positives about high gas prices is that it will hopefully kill off further sprawl.

Also, Philly's mass transit kind of blows. Compared to Houston's sole rail line it is great but there are a lot of places that are not effectively served. Southwest Philly is not served by rail and you can't get to cool places like Manyunk via rail either. You have the Market Frankfort El and the Broad Street line. The other is the trolley. NYC's and DC's mass transit is a lot better.

Corrosion
09-07-2006, 08:09 PM
Wish Texans Fans were more like Eagles fans

Not me , I find Philly Phan to be most annoying.

Boxscore
09-07-2006, 08:58 PM
Vinny,

The problem with Houston is that it is so spread out. If I had dictatorial powers and could do whatever I wanted I would prohibit any new construction outside of Loop 610. Houston can become a lot more dense. It sickens me how you see new crappy homogenous subdivisions miles outside of town spring up like mushrooms adding to the urban sprawl and environmental problems we have. Portland, Oregon effectively stopped sprawl and forced development within a confied area. I wish Houston had the foresight to do the same. Nevertheless, effective mass transit in Houston (I would love to see subways) would work. One of the positives about high gas prices is that it will hopefully kill off further sprawl.

Also, Philly's mass transit kind of blows. Compared to Houston's sole rail line it is great but there are a lot of places that are not effectively served. Southwest Philly is not served by rail and you can't get to cool places like Manyunk via rail either. You have the Market Frankfort El and the Broad Street line. The other is the trolley. NYC's and DC's mass transit is a lot better.

Vinny, How are you my friend?

Vinny
09-07-2006, 08:59 PM
Ready for the season guys....ready to check out your favorite two football teams Sunday.

jgl35
09-07-2006, 09:03 PM
When I was growing up in the Philadelphia area, the Eagles were horrible. They had a QB named Norm Snead and a RB named Timmy Brown. The games were at Franklin field and since they were never sold out, they weren't even televised. The latest love affair with the Eagles didn't really get started in Philly until somewhere around the mid to late 70's.
Back in those days no home game was of tv,sold out of not. The title game in 1960 against Green Bay was blacked out in Philly. My dad and I watched it on tv in a VFW in Bel Air, Md. I had to stand out side of the bar area, as I was to young to go into the bar area, and try to look over heads at a 12 inch black and white tv. The bad old days.

Rodman91
09-07-2006, 09:05 PM
When Reliant gets a jail and working court system built beneath it, call me.

C'mon, man, Philly fans have been well known as some of the most rowdy, passionate, obnoxious, and downright hostile fans in the NFL. Your people are close to being European soccer fans. Embrace your image. It is what it is, your entire history speaks volumes over your attempted spin in this thread. :shades:

I love our image...

It is great. I wouldn't trade it to be a fan of any other team, no matter how many Super Bowls they have won.

infantrycak
09-07-2006, 11:08 PM
The problem with Houston is that it is so spread out. If I had dictatorial powers and could do whatever I wanted I would prohibit any new construction outside of Loop 610. Houston can become a lot more dense. It sickens me how you see new crappy homogenous subdivisions miles outside of town spring up like mushrooms adding to the urban sprawl and environmental problems we have.

Some of us in Texas like our 1/2 acre lots and not knocking elbows with our neighbors from locations such as New York City such as yourself. Stacking people on top of themselves may work where you have no alternative but we do, so have at your crappy homogenEous 1200 sq ft coops for $750 K+ before giving lectures on how we should live.

EF55
09-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Back in those days no home game was of tv,sold out of not. The title game in 1960 against Green Bay was blacked out in Philly. My dad and I watched it on tv in a VFW in Bel Air, Md. I had to stand out side of the bar area, as I was to young to go into the bar area, and try to look over heads at a 12 inch black and white tv. The bad old days.

My first childhood memory of the eagles was watching Timmy Brown run for a td with chin strap flapping in the wind as my dad jumped up and down infront of our little black & white TV. My family has always been eagle fans as long as i can remember.

flylikeaneagle
09-08-2006, 08:59 AM
Our town in PA was Oilers crazy because of Bo Orlando. I remember watching him play and all of the houses with Oilers flags to support Bo.

Second Honeymoon
09-08-2006, 03:47 PM
I went to college up in Philly. Would not want to live there again. I never liked any of their teams while up there. However, I do respect Philly Phan and the passion that they bring to the table. I would listen to 610 WIP and their fans are very tough but passionate. They want a winner. The fans and their media who unlike the wimpy Houston sports media who want to be friends with the GMs and players actually provide good insight and analysis and are not afraid to rip players, coaches, or front office personnel.

Also, Philly has a great home field advantage. Leather lunged fans that provide an intimidating place to play. I don't condone the meatheads that used to beat up opposing fans up in the 700 Level of the Vet. They seem to have that crap tamed down in the Linc while still maintaining a fervent following.

I just wish Reliant was a more intimidating place for opposing teams. Houston can have a great home field advantage.

So in your opinion, we should do the following:

1. Hurl bottles and snowballs at Santa.
2. Hurl bottles and snowballs at Jimmy Johnson.
3. Cheer when an NFL great (mike irvin) is being carted off on a stretcher.
4. Get stoned drunk and get in fights in the stands with fellow and opposing fans.
5. Get in so many fights in stands that they have to nominate a judge and build a courthouse in the stadium to handle the huge volume of cases.
6. Boo Donovan McNabb on Draft Day.
7. Never win a Super Bowl.

Well I guess some knobs booed Mario on Draft Day this past year and the Texans have yet to win a Super Bowl, so we are 2/7ths of the way to modeling our fans after the undisputed kings of NFL Fan greatness....Eagle Fan

excuse me while i vomit in a bucket...

/sarcasm off

doug ftw

Mr. White
09-08-2006, 04:21 PM
Countdown to lockdown commencing.....

HOU-TEX
09-08-2006, 04:21 PM
And who do you think you are? Joe Bad? Yea right, go to philly you blood sucker...

Relax man! Get back to the discussion of football if you're unable to post logical comments:challenge

Vinny
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
Countdown to lockdown commencing.....I just s-canned the entire exchange. :wild:

HomeBred_Texan
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
I just s-canned the entire exchange. :wild:
Thanks, sorry. I know better...

texanmojo
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
You can point out the isolated examples of battery throwing and booing for injured players but that's not unique to Philly. Those were mistakes & bad judgements and they don't represent every Eagle Fan. People have a tendency to confuse our passion with those random occurences.

I agree. Just because there are some bad individuals doesn't mean the entire fan base is this way. We have our fair share of disrespectful fans as well...we just have not been around long enough for it to be noticed.

flylikeaneagle
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
I know most everybody here is not like him so it's cool. Most everybody here rocks and are really great people. Every board has people like that. Just have to learn to keep spreading the love and not worry about people like him. So I apologize to the fans here.... except for him.

Vinny
09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
Thanks, sorry. I know better...
not a problem...football fans are emotional. It's all good. :mario:

Mr. White
09-08-2006, 04:25 PM
I married into a family full of Eagles fans. It's a lot of fun. I expect this Sunday to be crazy.

BTW- Bo Orlando was the man.

flylikeaneagle
09-08-2006, 04:34 PM
I married into a family full of Eagles fans. It's a lot of fun. I expect this Sunday to be crazy.

BTW- Bo Orlando was the man.

I bet that would be crazy. LOL!

Bo Orlando was great. Everyone in my high school wanted to be like Bo Orlando. Then we had Ron Powlus. Did great in college on a crappy Notre Dame team but never made it in the NFL.

Mr. White
09-08-2006, 04:57 PM
I bet that would be crazy. LOL!

Bo Orlando was great. Everyone in my high school wanted to be like Bo Orlando. Then we had Ron Powlus. Did great in college on a crappy Notre Dame team but never made it in the NFL.


The funniest thing about my in-laws has gotta be Pop. Wanna talk about crazy... He got so fed up with the Eagles front office that he said "screw it" and started rooting for the Cowboys when he moved to Texas 15 years ago. Didn't think the FO really cared about the fans...

He's been called every name in the book by Eagles fans. He could care less. His wife and his kids (and the rest of his family back home) still root for the Eagles. His phone rings off the wall with calls coming in from Philly when the 2 teams are playing.

He always tells the rest of his family that there's plenty of room on the Cowboys bandwagon with him. He even cheered against the Eagles when they went to the Super Bowl.

flylikeaneagle
09-08-2006, 06:00 PM
He was never a Philly fan then. Philly fans never jump ship. Once an Eagle, always an Eagle.

That is funny though.

flylikeaneagle
09-09-2006, 12:19 AM
Yeah and New Yorkers don't switch from Yankees to Mets attire depending on who is winning. Right, I believe that one. Where were the Yankees fans when the Mets were winning in the '80's or where were the Mets fans when the Yankees were winning in the 90's? And by fans I mean people wearing Yankees or Mets caps respectively. They magically disappeared, huh?


Who cares about New York? Not I. Nor does Philly.

EF55
09-09-2006, 09:27 AM
What I'm saying is I don't buy the "Once an Eagle, Always an Eagle" loyalty.

I see what your saying but keep in mind, there will always be bandwagon fans with any team that does well and we have our share of them but that doesn't diminish the integrity of the true and loyal fan,
A true fan welcomes all that want to cheer on his team regardless of when they arrive. "where were you when we stunk? " mentality is an elitist mentality. The bandwagon fans will come and go with any team.

There is a strong identity in Philly between the fans and their sports teams, and typically it is a family thing, but I ;ived in Chicago for over a decade and you can go to soldier feild where season seats are in the same family for 40 or 50 years

rafterticket
09-09-2006, 01:04 PM
So in your opinion, we should do the following:

1. Hurl bottles and snowballs at Santa.
2. Hurl bottles and snowballs at Jimmy Johnson.
3. Cheer when an NFL great (mike irvin) is being carted off on a stretcher.
4. Get stoned drunk and get in fights in the stands with fellow and opposing fans.
5. Get in so many fights in stands that they have to nominate a judge and build a courthouse in the stadium to handle the huge volume of cases.
6. Boo Donovan McNabb on Draft Day.
7. Never win a Super Bowl.

Well I guess some knobs booed Mario on Draft Day this past year and the Texans have yet to win a Super Bowl, so we are 2/7ths of the way to modeling our fans after the undisputed kings of NFL Fan greatness....Eagle Fan

excuse me while i vomit in a bucket...

/sarcasm off

doug ftw

It's probably a good thing it never snows in Oakland, but Oakland has won a couple Super Bowls.

FlyEaglesFly
09-09-2006, 01:15 PM
6. Boo Donovan McNabb on Draft Day.



Gotta love all these ignorant Texans fans.:rolleyes: You don't know what the hell you're talking about. "The Dirty 30" were a group of idiots put together by a dumb ass radio personality in Philadelphia, Angelo Cataldi. Secondly, they were not booing McNabb himself, they were booing the FO for not taking Ricky Williams; there's a difference. You Texans fans really need to stop criticizing the entire Eagles fan base with incindents you have no understanding of.

PS: I like how you also mention fights, as if they don't ever happen in any other NFL stadiums.:yawn:

Texanfan4ever
09-09-2006, 02:21 PM
Gotta love all these ignorant Texans fans.:rolleyes: You don't know what the hell you're talking about. "The Dirty 30" were a group of idiots put together by a dumb ass radio personality in Philadelphia, Angelo Cataldi. Secondly, they were not booing McNabb himself, they were booing the FO for not taking Ricky Williams; there's a difference. You Texans fans really need to stop criticizing the entire Eagles fan base with incindents you have no understanding of.

PS: I like how you also mention fights, as if they don't ever happen in any other NFL stadiums.:yawn:

Take it easy! Don't get your feathers ruffled. There will be plenty of time for you to do that tomorrow after the Eaglets LOSE!

Second Honeymoon
09-09-2006, 03:04 PM
Gotta love all these ignorant Texans fans.:rolleyes: You don't know what the hell you're talking about. "The Dirty 30" were a group of idiots put together by a dumb ass radio personality in Philadelphia, Angelo Cataldi. Secondly, they were not booing McNabb himself, they were booing the FO for not taking Ricky Williams; there's a difference. You Texans fans really need to stop criticizing the entire Eagles fan base with incindents you have no understanding of.

PS: I like how you also mention fights, as if they don't ever happen in any other NFL stadiums.:yawn:

What is the only stadium with a courthouse inside it to handle the large volume of court cases? That's right. Philadelphia. Nuff said.

Oh and please get over yourself in making excuses for McNabb's draft day, by booing the FO for not taking R.Williams, you were in fact then booing against taking McNabb.....Philly fans are the worst fans in all of major sports and easily the most delusional. Boo Mike Schmidt, Boo Iverson, Boo Santa Claus, and cheer when NFL greats have an injury end their storied career.

I have been to your city and its a dirty, smelly city populated by fat losers. Kinda like our city of Houston. But at least we arent bitter about it.

doug ftw

jgl35
09-09-2006, 08:19 PM
What is the only stadium with a courthouse inside it to handle the large volume of court cases? That's right. Philadelphia. Nuff said.

Oh and please get over yourself in making excuses for McNabb's draft day, by booing the FO for not taking R.Williams, you were in fact then booing against taking McNabb.....Philly fans are the worst fans in all of major sports and easily the most delusional. Boo Mike Schmidt, Boo Iverson, Boo Santa Claus, and cheer when NFL greats have an injury end their storied career.

I have been to your city and its a dirty, smelly city populated by fat losers. Kinda like our city of Houston. But at least we arent bitter about it.

doug ftw
Time to explain the court inside the Vet. One of the reasons this was done was most of the troublemakers were not from the city of Philadelphia or even from the state of Pa. People would just not show up for a court date and it would cost the city money to go after them. So why not a quick court hearing and get the fine money right away? Very good idea, I think and it cut down all the trash that went on by people who can't hold their beer.

Second, sorry you didn't like Philly but trashing the city and it's people puts you in the same position as the people you insult. You say Philly fans have no class. You fit right in doing that.

FlyEaglesFly
09-09-2006, 09:12 PM
I wonder how that turned out? Who was right the Philly FO or their fans.
Hmmm.... I'll have to think about this one. On the one hand we have a head case RB that would fit in with the Philly fan base and on the other we have an excellent QB that can lead the Eagles for years. Yeah the fans were right the FO made a bad choice.

Kinda like the Texans FO, huh?
Yes because the 30 fans that followed Catladi represent the whole Eagles fans base. Get real. There's no disputing the FO made the right choice,and most of the Eagles fans I know wanted McNabb b/c they believed that a QB is exponently more important to a teams success than a running back.

HomeBred_Texan
09-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Yes because the 30 fans that followed Catladi represent the whole Eagles fans base. Get real. There's no disputing the FO made the right choice,and most of the Eagles fans I know wanted McNabb b/c they believed that a QB is exponently more important to a teams success than a running back.
It seems you have to spend allot of time on this MB defending the Eagles. Lots of excuses if you ask me, which you didn't. I will take my Texans and there fans with a 2/14 record any day of the week over Philly's 6/10 record with there fowl mouth fans...

infantrycak
09-10-2006, 12:23 AM
Yes because the 30 fans that followed Catladi represent the whole Eagles fans base. Get real. There's no disputing the FO made the right choice,and most of the Eagles fans I know wanted McNabb b/c they believed that a QB is exponently more important to a teams success than a running back.

Well there you go--so you completely agree with the Texans picking a DE over a RB as well.

dirty steve
09-10-2006, 12:35 AM
I guess you haven't driven from Clear Lake/Friendswood to IAH. It takes me half an hour just to get downtown...easy. Add in your 20 mins and your lmao and that's right at an hour.

good call vinny.

i live in the same area and it takes 60 mins. to get to IAH if your hauling ass. don't speak to stuff you dont know anyhting about.

ur_popz
09-10-2006, 12:49 AM
The thing about i likea about being a philly fan is that theres really no bandwagon hopping.. either your a fan or your not and if your gonna get on board then be prepared to fall off a cliff just like we do every year, even when we're good. This is different from eliteist fans like pittsburgh, ny, and dallas who constantly have to remind everybody how long theyve been on board. Its harder to be when your team has no superbowls to brag about and belive me we hear about that all the time. This explains our passion. We are literally surrounded by cities that have won, even baltimore for chrissake, and meanwhile we just get more hungry every year, infact... WERE STAARVED!!!!!!11

btw i just signed up to do some trash talking but the moderaters wont let me lol its good to see eagles fans here playing nice with others. I never knew houston hates dallas as much as us :thumbup

Stampede
09-10-2006, 12:49 AM
Just wanted to say that you guys (Eagles Fans) who have posted on this thread seem to be great fans and i have enjoyed reading your post's. Yall are welcome here anytime as far as im concerned. Heres to a great injury free game tommorow guys. For those of you who may be visiting from Philly, we are honored to have you here in Houston. May the best team (Texans) win.

ur_popz
09-10-2006, 12:57 AM
I have been to your city and its a dirty, smelly city populated by fat losers. Kinda like our city of Houston. But at least we arent bitter about it.

doug ftw

When was the last time you been to Philly? seriously

FlyEaglesFly
09-10-2006, 09:20 AM
It seems you have to spend allot of time on this MB defending the Eagles. Lots of excuses if you ask me, which you didn't. I will take my Texans and there fans with a 2/14 record any day of the week over Philly's 6/10 record with there fowl mouth fans...
Um okay, you don't expect me to defend my team or something?

EF55
09-10-2006, 09:34 AM
Just wanted to say that you guys (Eagles Fans) who have posted on this thread seem to be great fans and i have enjoyed reading your post's. Yall are welcome here anytime as far as im concerned. Heres to a great injury free game tommorow guys. For those of you who may be visiting from Philly, we are honored to have you here in Houston. May the best team (Texans) win.


Amen to that!