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TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
tick tick tick

Toycannon
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Well at least I trust the D to come through more than the O:cowboy1:

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Why is carr ignoring moulds and daniels????
Daniels has only one catch for 10 yards. Moulds hasn't been ignored though. LOL

mancunian
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
and a crap Punt

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Bills 1 st down

titan hater
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
where's my heart meds?

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
wow...the dump off ofense

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
at least they dont need a FG to tie

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Bills 1 st down time out 30 second left

BEERnBBQ
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
dinking us to death here

Doug
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Someone better be paying alot of attention to Evans!

Dubya
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Why is carr ignoring moulds and daniels????

Especially Daniels. What is up?

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:48 PM
where's my heart meds?
I hear ya. Come on D!

amazingandre
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
we cant keep alowing the little dump offs we neeed pressure

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Bills no time outs left @ Texans 35

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
ohh...my meds

ccdude730
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
im gonna have a heart attack

Topher
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
omg

SurrealMcCoy
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
I feel sorry for our D. After starting so poorly and recovering well, they've gotten little support from the other

gg no re
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
smh we can do better than this.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
omg im about to cry if we lose this game

edo783
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
2 man rush?????

Doug
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
What's sad is we put ourselves in this position. This is crazy!

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Bills @15 with 15 seconds in the game

WildCat_Texan
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
C'mon D!!!!!

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:49 PM
if we have another 3 man rush im shooting something

amazingandre
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
bills @ huo 15 with 15 sec left now 2nd down

TexasJedi
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
I am sick.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
holy fack

Dubya
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Dang.

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Come on. come on.

Holy crap!!!! :gun:

Topher
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
NO no no

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
TD Price review please!

mexican_texan
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
we had it....we had it....

throw the flag!

Napa Auto Parts
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
great catch if it counts

Runner
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Ouch.

titan hater
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Damn

Baranghoori
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
What a ****ing heartbreaker...

WildCat_Texan
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Crap!!!!!!

Osso
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
review gods?

mancunian
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Mysteryhunt
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
nicely done

False Start
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Saw that coming from a mile away . :brickwall

wwffan99tx
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Excellent prevent defense!! Prevented the texans from winning. What a f'n joke

SurrealMcCoy
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
That is ENTIRELY on the offense. Couldn't get a first down to kill the game...so sad

rmartin65
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
carr suxs

Hold on, justify that.

Runner
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
That's a TD.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
TD...feet were drug in bounds...nothing irrefutable. im going to jump off the corpus christi harbor bridge. we lost bc of the offense. they couldnt do crap to give our defense much rest.

Osso
11-19-2006, 03:51 PM
his hand hits out of bounds before feet being dragged


reversal

Dubya
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Crap. I'm pissed.

BEERnBBQ
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
once again the prevent defense

Austrian
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
I don't know. What was Kubiak thinking about. 3 rd and 2 and he didn't run the ball! Well, 3-7 now!

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
3rd and 2 call. pitts holding penalty. cook fumble. we gave this game away

titan hater
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Damn again

Sarg01
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Wow. Prevent defense gives up the game. They should never have been in that kind of range.

gg no re
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
A game we should've won. :(

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Crapola!

ccdude730
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
ravens game anyone?

Napa Auto Parts
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Great catch like i said

Mysteryhunt
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
i didnt see the offense give up 14 points and 160 yards on two snaps of the football.

Farmer Bernie
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Absolutely inexcusable. Focking terrible.

We are a horrible team and bad teams don't win games like this.

Topher
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
God is not a TEXANS FAN!

Osso
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
See thats total ****ing crap


his hand was down

I hate refs

axman40
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
BLAH!

:crying:

Baranghoori
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
This is one heck of a tearjerker..

Runner
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
That was a fantastic catch.

Vinny
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
See thats total ****ing crap


his hand was down

I hate refs

Looked like a good TD to me....if that was AJ you wouldn't be saying that.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
im thinking of the cal / stanford finish.

mancunian
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
ravens game anyone?

Rams

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
This team is going to kill me.

SurrealMcCoy
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Stand up David Carr! You're the next contestant on "We can't get a first down"!

Osso
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Am I the only one who can see his frikn hand down out of bounds?

The Dream
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Wow as soon as I turn on the t.v. the Bills throw a touchdown, maybe me watching the Texans is bad luck.

TexansSeminole
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Carr is so mediocre is sad.

Mysteryhunt
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
so many small mistakes spread out throughout the game made up this loss.

Theoridic
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Where is mathis

Napa Auto Parts
11-19-2006, 03:54 PM
well at least this only means we get a sweet draft pick:stirpot:

Austrian
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
At least we beat Jacksonville! Twice!

TexasJedi
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Dangit Wong, lateral it!

mexican_texan
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Kailee Wong???? Seriously????

Vinny
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Wong had a wall but didn't lateral...he is too slow.

Doug
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
I feel sick at my stomach!

Austrian
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Tennessee wins! Wohoo!

Osso
11-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Looked like a good TD to me....if that was AJ you wouldn't be saying that.


You are wrong...I call every play with neutrality.

His hand clearly down before he dragged his feet.

Topher
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
I wanna puke ! Great catch Fak the bills!

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
and Daniels, the high school qb was right next to him! missed opporutnities is the name of this season

WildCat_Texan
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
Oh well....

Wildcat Texan, signing out.

BTW: Still a fan texanpride

SpinDoc
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
Prevent Defense Is For Losers And Wimps.

ccdude730
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
kind of glad i didnt make it to the game to see this breakdown. but i didnt get anything for my tickets either!! they are still sitting here if anyone would like to purchase them...

TheIronDuke
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
You are wrong...I call every play with neutrality.

His hand clearly down before he dragged his feet.

His feet were in bounds, that's all that matters. It was a clean catch.

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:56 PM
You are wrong...I call every play with neutrality.

His hand clearly down before he dragged his feet.

you could see the marks in the grass his feet made, and they went about 1.5 yards back into the endzone. it was a catch

Runner
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Am I the only one who can see his frikn hand down out of bounds?

Pretty much, but don't let that stop you.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
i wont watch sportscenter tonight. wtf are the announcers talking about...this game starting a "legacy" in buffalo?? losman has 2 memorable games in his career...both against us. i think its stupid for them to say that a game llike this can start a legacy in buffalo.

offense is to blame. the offense was unproductive at all and bc of it, our defense couldnt rest. still, to let anyone get behind you is absolutely rediculous.

texan_b
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
3rd and 2 we have the ball you run it dead at them and force them to call their last timeout or get the 1st you do not try to pass the ball (and stop the clock for them). Bad coaching on our last off. drive.

The Pencil Neck
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
I am sad.

bigcarlos
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
:gun: :gun: :gun:

Farmer Bernie
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
This one is on the coaches.

Austrian
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Wow. After the 3rd and 2 play call i knew we're gonna lose. RUN THE ****ING BALL!

rockabilly
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Kubiak lost this game with the horrible play calling before the punt to the bills.

Vinny
11-19-2006, 03:58 PM
You are wrong...I call every play with neutrality.

His hand clearly down before he dragged his feet.if you look at the replay you can see the two lines in the grass that his toes made. I like your idea of neutrality...it's homer neutrality.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Today's key words. Cook, Pitts and Chad. Man, I'm sick. Can't go back to sleep now. Damn got a long day today at work.

dtran04
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
We don't deserve to win a game when a receiver gets 265 yards.

Maddict5
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
Damn..i know every1 is pissed now but in the long run this might be good...for kubiak especially- maybe now he'll throw out the prevent offence and defence we played in the 4th- offence especially....

he's got away with it b4 and we all knew it would bite us in the @ss eventually- why not early enough in a losing season???

JDizzle
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
Pathetic. We had so many chances to bury them and we took a trip to punt city. Losman 2 Carr 0.

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
Don't forget about the postgame press conference streaming live coming up.

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/texans/live/texanspress.rm&proto=rtsp&rbnkey=1

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
rushing 3 people also didnt help. no pressure and easy throwing lanes for Losman...how does this keep happeneing? we keep them scorless for about 45 minutes straight, and when it comes down to it, we fold..

Sarg01
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Well, Cook's fumble cost us even more than we thought.

HoustonTexans
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
i can not believe that just happened... throwing the ball on 3rd and 2? THEY HAD ONE ****ING TIME OUT... that is absolutely rediculous

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Today's key words. Cook, Pitts and Chad. Man, I'm sick. Can't go back to sleep now. Damn got a long day today at work.

wait now dont blame stanley. stanley was the best defensive player in this game for the texans. field position is what kept us from being blown out.

Mysteryhunt
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
thats a heartbreaker no doubt. though this season was lost anyways and this can only help both our players and coaches future decision making. still sucks though.

TheIronDuke
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Let's not forget the fumble by Jameel Cook. Heads should roll after a game like this.

Osso
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
his feet were not in bounds...they were elevated, after his hand went down out of bounds to break his fall his feet dragged.

Replay refs suck and have been screwing us all season.

I'm done.

hopefully kubiak will stop allowing our team to rest on these small leads. Play the game for 4 quarters.:gun:

HJam72
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
We don't deserve to win a game when a receiver gets 265 yards.

Good point.

Topher
11-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Good game for Carr ! I want Some Freaking Dbs !:brickwall

dtran04
11-19-2006, 04:01 PM
If Faggins would have gotten that INT, end result would probably be different.

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 04:01 PM
looks like the browns pulled a texans

Sarg01
11-19-2006, 04:02 PM
rushing 3 people also didnt help. no pressure and easy throwing lanes for Losman...how does this keep happeneing? we keep them scorless for about 45 minutes straight, and when it comes down to it, we fold..

We chose to let them move down the field. Prevent defense. I hate seeing that when you're up by less than 7.

Dubya
11-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Let's not forget the fumble by Jameel Cook. Heads should roll after a game like this.

Something should happen. The game was ours to lose, and guess what...?

Doug
11-19-2006, 04:02 PM
3rd and 2 we have the ball you run it dead at them and force them to call their last timeout or get the 1st you do not try to pass the ball (and stop the clock for them). Bad coaching on our last off. drive.

You're right...That call lost the game. We either get the first down or make them use their last timeout with a run or we pass to where we either get the first down, throw an interception or incomplete the pass to stop the clock. Geeee which one has a better upside? I just don't understand how the mentality changes from one extreme to the other in one week.

edo783
11-19-2006, 04:02 PM
rushing 3 people also didnt help. no pressure and easy throwing lanes for Losman...how does this keep happeneing? we keep them scorless for about 45 minutes straight, and when it comes down to it, we fold..

On one play, we lined up 3 and one then dropped into coverage?????

Specnatz
11-19-2006, 04:03 PM
The play calling was more conservative than I thought could be even possible. Once the Texans had the lead it was as if Kubiak was playing to not lose versus playing to win.

Texas_Heat
11-19-2006, 04:03 PM
:embarrass This Team is a joke .

TexanFanInCC
11-19-2006, 04:04 PM
If Faggins would have gotten that INT, end result would probably be different.

guys remember: "if 'if's' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas"

lets put it this way, the offense was nonexistent the whole 2nd half. the playcalling was horrific and conservative, and we had no killer instinct. the defense couldnt rest between drives. i dont blame them as much as i blame carr and the playcalling.

axman40
11-19-2006, 04:05 PM
:gun: 2nd half offense :gun:

HJam72
11-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Prevent defense is for 3rd and 20 or more. Otherwise, it's for losers, *****s and extreme cowards (you know the word I'm looking for).

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 04:07 PM
I'm not getting any video but I am getting audio of the press conference.

Here comes the video...slowly but surely.

amazingandre
11-19-2006, 04:08 PM
shut the hell up about carr he played good ll game one bad call and all of a sudden th crr haters rise from the dead stop already. we should have ran it even if we dont convert they will use the t.o. and not have it. also we suc at prevent unless carr forced kubs to play prevent shut up and deal with it. i hate a loss as much as the next guy, but dont blame the qb for a defensiv let down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 04:09 PM
what happened to the O? no points in the second half after dominating the first half? our team is not bad, its just inconsitant. i know people are pissed, but we are making strides.

Dubya
11-19-2006, 04:10 PM
The play calling was more conservative than I thought could be even possible. Once the Texans had the lead it was as if Kubiak was playing to not lose versus playing to win.

Oh no! He must have been talking to Capers lately.

Austrian
11-19-2006, 04:11 PM
what happened to the O? no points in the second half after dominating the first half? our team is not bad, its just inconsitant. i know people are pissed, but we are making strides.

Whatever!

MrMeToo
11-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I belive not going down field plays a big part in sucking in the 2nd half. Give the ball to AJ and Moulds; they were having a good first half. I'm tired of seeing screen passes or short 2 yeard passes. MOve the ball down field and stay agressive.

Osso
11-19-2006, 04:12 PM
if you look at the replay you can see the two lines in the grass that his toes made. I like your idea of neutrality...it's homer neutrality.


You do realize the white box is out of bounds right?

And I'm nothing like a homer. He was out.

SmoochyTX
11-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Update on AJ from the press conference: He has a thigh bruise but he's OK.

Orion
11-19-2006, 04:13 PM
horrible call playing at the end of the game, absolutely horrible..they've no sense at all, why would you be throwing the ball when you have been dominating with the run, especially when you trying to run out the clock....another wonderful day as a texans fan....yeeeeehhhaawww

MrMeToo
11-19-2006, 04:13 PM
Update on AJ from the press conference: He has a thigh bruise but he's OK.

Good news.

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 04:13 PM
I belive not going down field plays a big part in sucking in the 2nd half. Give the ball to AJ and Moulds; they were having a good first half. I'm tired of seeing screen passes or short 2 yeard passes. MOve the ball down field and stay agressive.we went down field at least 3 times, not even coming close to a catch. also, i dont think we threw the ball to Moulds in the second half. if the coaching staff realizes the mistakes we are making (not running enough, not spreading the ball around to the other receivers, stupid penalties) and fixes them, we will start to win these game. have some faith.

NATHANHALE
11-19-2006, 04:16 PM
...one of the best 'playing/coaching not to lose games' I've ever seen!! We almost won w/o scoring an offensive point in the second half...we wasted the field position battle while trying to control the clock and then gave that better field position to the Bills...we played some 'great' 'you don't score, we won't score'...last team with the ball (w/time on the clock) wins...wow, the memories come 'flooding' back....:brickwall :gun:

Orion
11-19-2006, 04:21 PM
well at least this only means we get a sweet draft pick:stirpot:

HAHA, thats a good one, we'll probably get the best punter in the draft in the first round, because thats what we need

Orion
11-19-2006, 04:24 PM
HAHA, thats a good one, we'll probably get the best punter in the draft in the first round, because thats what we need

joking of course, we don't need a punter but who knows who we will get

rockabilly
11-19-2006, 04:24 PM
Ive said it before, and ill say it again.

I will die due to a heart attack on a Sunday afternoon after a Texans game.


:ouch:

run-david-run
11-19-2006, 04:24 PM
HAHA, thats a good one, we'll probably get the best punter in the draft in the first round, because thats what we need

lets just kindly forgett we let a receiver get 265 yards! we need a corner and a saftey in the worst way.

Vinny
11-19-2006, 04:34 PM
You do realize the white box is out of bounds right?

And I'm nothing like a homer. He was out.Ok, not a homer, but I don't know how you can turn that play over. I didn't see anything more in replays other than those skid marks. Rough loss any way you slice it though. We can agree on that much.

Dubya
11-19-2006, 04:35 PM
HAHA, thats a good one, we'll probably get the best punter in the draft in the first round, because thats what we need


What, you don't like our punter giving the other team field position at the 50 yrd line?

devo-x
11-19-2006, 06:22 PM
This is speculative only - How would the game have been different with Sage as QB, especially in the second half? :hides:

(Note: I'm not a 'Carr-basher')

bah007
11-19-2006, 06:24 PM
This is speculative only - How would the game have been different with Sage as QB, especially in the second half?

(Note: I'm not a 'Carr-basher')

Our QB wouldnt have had 22 straight completions so we probably would've done worse.

Nawzer
11-19-2006, 06:37 PM
I avoided posting right after the game ended because I was so furious at the Texans blowing a game like this. Just like they blew the St.Louis game last year. Losman had forever to throw for most of the game today and I don't care how bad you are, but if you give a NFL qb that much time to throw then he'll beat you. And that's what happened today. I didn't understand why in the world DeMarcus Faggins was on Lee Evans today. Your best CB is supposed to be on their best WR. Dunta should've been covering Evans all day. I don't know what the thought process was on that scheme. Faggins did play well towards the end, but he got burned for 2 tds and that's inexcusable. Cook's fumble probably cost us 7 or 3 points today and that was devastating. They've got to have someone else on those rollouts instead of Cook. Bottom line: Absolutely horrendous loss and there's no positives from this game. We've crossed that line where people are talking about positives in a loss. Wouldn't surprise me if we didn't win another game from here on out.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-19-2006, 09:28 PM
wait now dont blame stanley. stanley was the best defensive player in this game for the texans. field position is what kept us from being blown out.

You are right about punting within 5yds to the goal line but, when you are up against the wall and need a big punt and came up with what 38,39yds is not good. I would like my punter to have more distance with punt. Chad has nose for hitting with 10yds to enemy goal line but, I would take more distance guy than acuuracy. It seems like chad is not getting his distance lately. Punting 30yders is not my ideal of punter.

OrangeCountyTexansFan
11-19-2006, 09:59 PM
Losman had forever to throw for most of the game today and I don't care how bad you are, but if you give a NFL qb that much time to throw then he'll beat you. And that's what happened today.
Exactly. When an NFL QB has that much time, you can bet there was someone doing offensive holding. But I've learned to not count on a ref to call in your favor. They missed several holding calls on the Bills today.
But still, we played pretty well collectively, especially our special teams pinning them in the five several times. If we could have knocked down that last pass, this conversation would not be happening. That was just a perfectly placed ball. What can you say? No use crying over spilt milk or missed offensive holding calls -- they still got the W. *sigh*
The only thing I hated that we did was those wussy little screen passes. We should have just kept pounding them. We'd have won then.

dalemurphy
11-20-2006, 12:05 AM
Look, nothing has changed. We are a young and improving football team with glaring holes at CB, FS, OL, WLB, FB... So, let's settle down and appreciate that the talent we do have now is actually playing well: AJ, Moulds, Carr, Dunta, Mario, Weaver, Ryans, Orr, Lundy...

Kubiak is a rookie coach, an excellent one. However, he made a mistake on the 3rd and 2 call. He'll learn how to be agressive. Some kind of a running play was clearly the call there- whether a simple one or an exotic one. We needed them to use up that final timeout. That being said, how many of us were crying about the previous regime's unwillingness to throw the ball in the second half or to play at all agressively. We have that now and we should be grateful.

By the way, Nate Clements would look really nice opposite Dunta, with Petey playing nickel.