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rmartin65
09-24-2006, 03:47 PM
Orr w/ the turnover

TexasJedi
09-24-2006, 03:47 PM
Can they show what happened? Arghh!

Texans86
09-24-2006, 03:47 PM
Where's the ball right now?

Ryan
09-24-2006, 03:47 PM
this sucks..that got me really excited for nothing

rmartin65
09-24-2006, 03:47 PM
Crud!

what?

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
1st and 10 from our 27...

Carr throws behind Moulds, who slips a tackle and gets about 5...

No huddle...

2nd and 5...

Carr back and throws to the 50 to AJ.

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Man, my attention has been redirected.

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
AJ is a beast.

TexanExile
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
I love the way Moulds moves after the catch.

Great throw to AJ.

Texans Pride
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Yeah if we get a td taken away, I'd at least like to see why

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
1st and 10 from midfield...

Carr back to throw, gets AJ and he gets 9.

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Aj Is A Beast!!!

Texans86
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Alright guys lets see some life out there

tulexan
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Who is Thomas Johnson?

coachdent
09-24-2006, 03:48 PM
I defy anyone to tell me another team down 16 points that has two tight ends on the field.

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
AJ is a beast.

YES!

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
nice two yard pass

TexanExile
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
Get out of bounds!!!!

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
2nd and 1, slant to AJ to the 30.

Ryan
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
1st down texans!

WWX
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
Quick Score pleze!!!! We need TD.

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
AJ IS A Beast.

TexasJedi
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
Pick up the pace!!!!

rmartin65
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
I defy anyone to tell me another team down 16 points that has two tight ends on the field.

The TE's have both TD's

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
1st and 10...

Carr back to throw, goes deep to WALTER... picked.

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
LOL THAT is why we don't throw deep......what an awful pass!

Ryan
09-24-2006, 03:49 PM
picked off........game over!!!

The Dream
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Who plays next?

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Carr sucks without Johnson

Dre_80
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
AJ = :yahoo: :superman: :wild:

Runner
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Who is Thomas Johnson?

One of our in with the new guys.

Napa Auto Parts
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Well avid Put the Nail in the Coffin :cowboy1:

WWX
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
There is no coming back, this game is over...

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
uh-oh I see the I word.

The Dream
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Carr sucks with Johnson.

rmartin65
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Why, why, why. Good bye everybody

underdog65
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Interception.

Ryan
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
its about time for me to hit the ol' dusty trail!

TexanExile
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Well, at least now we know why he wasn't in a hurry...

False Start
09-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Turn out the lights ................... :confused:

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
Why go deep with Owen Daniels. At least give the ball to Moulds.

Johnny Utah
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
What pinpoint accuracy Carr displayed right there.

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
its about time for me to hit the ol' dusty trail!

Been waiting for this moment all day.

newport texan
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
we have 2 too many T Johnson's on the line. #96 should be cut along with about half the team and a coach or two

The Dream
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
Why, why, why. Good bye everybody


don't kill yourself man....you're way too young and there's always next year!

Dre_80
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
cut kevin walter already!!! everytime we throw him the football something bad happens (fumble, interception, incomplete etc)

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:51 PM
Why go deep with Owen Daniels. At least give the ball to Moulds.the 2 yard pass was open again.

coachdent
09-24-2006, 03:52 PM
The TE's have both TD's


The tight ends have both TDs on the goal line. They have NO BUSINESS being on the field as much as they are. Ptuzier isn't exactly a threat to do much of anything out in the middle of the field down 16.


You can't generate much of a pass game with two wide receivers. We don't have a four wide set at all.

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:52 PM
cut kevin walter already!!! everytime we throw him the football something bad happens (fumble, interception, incomplete etc)that wasn't his fault...that was an awful pass

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:52 PM
2:50, 1st and 10, Betts runs past TJ and gets 7.

MrMeToo
09-24-2006, 03:52 PM
Andre Johnson is the best player on the team by far. Anyone whos says or sees different is just dumb.

TexanExile
09-24-2006, 03:52 PM
Didn't look like a 2-yard pass to me. Wrong team caught it, but I don't think that was the problem.

underdog65
09-24-2006, 03:53 PM
I want to see someone fired after this game. If not, then it is pretty apparent that the texans dont' care at all.

Malloy
09-24-2006, 03:53 PM
the 2 yard pass was open again.

Vinny, stop making me cry! :)

JDizzle
09-24-2006, 03:54 PM
This looks like someone took a crap on the field and called it a team. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

underdog65
09-24-2006, 03:54 PM
The positive from the pass is that David is giving his receivers a chance to make a play.

Dre_80
09-24-2006, 03:54 PM
that wasn't his fault...that was an awful pass

i know but like i said, every time we throw him the football something like that happens. the guy is bad luck :francis:

Baranghoori
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
Andre Johnson is the best player on the team by far. Anyone whos says or sees different is just dumb.

LOL! Did you just say that anybody who has a different opinion than you is dumb?! There's GOTTA be something against that in the constitution!!

Brandon420tx
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
Who besides me is going to take a break from the MB this week?

I'm thinking toga parties.

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
2nd and 3...

Toss to bets and he gets 5.

WildCat_Texan
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
I feel beat down, fixin to go fire up the grill and drink myself silly. But, I'm still A TEXAN FAN! Hang in there my brothers and sisters!!

Laters

Texan Fan in Kansas

:redtowel:

atxbandit
09-24-2006, 03:55 PM
well maybe we can beat Miami next week, they aren't too good

Wolf
09-24-2006, 03:56 PM
INT doesn't count on Carrs stats because it is a"garbage " stats

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:56 PM
1st and 10...

Betts gets about 6, I think.

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 03:56 PM
Sorry Vinny... emotional outburst. Get's tough to see my Texans go down like this.

Wolf
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Who besides me is going to take a break from the MB this week?

I'm thinking toga parties.


I think I am going to try to take a break also...insanity will be running wild

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
2nd and 4...

Pitch to Betts and he gets 5.

HJam72
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Relax everybody, Brunell is a superstar QB. :ok:

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
well maybe we can beat Miami next week, they aren't too good
They are better than Rice...so we probably don't have a shot.

valleytexfan
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
I feel beat down, fixin to go fire up the grill and drink myself silly. But, I'm still A TEXAN FAN! Hang in there my brothers and sisters!!

Laters

Texan Fan in Kansas

:redtowel:

I am so with you, Wildcat.

HJam72
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm afraid this forum will be very empty very soon.

coachdent
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
What pinpoint accuracy Carr displayed right there.

I'm all over going to my go-to guy Kevin Walter. Not sure if I would hook it up for a five yard dump to Daniels. Perhaps he should have gone to the dump to Brunner? Or maybe get the rock to Edell Shepherd. Please. Going into a gunfight with a rubber knife.

Moss
Randle El
Patten
Lloyd

Just a few more threats to contend with on the other side of the ball. Get used to it. EVERY team has more skill than we do out there.

The Dream
09-24-2006, 03:58 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo......................oooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo!!!!

Runner
09-24-2006, 03:58 PM
Relax everybody, Brunell is a superstar QB. :ok:

Isn't he the guy with the most consecutive completions to start a game?

coachdent
09-24-2006, 03:58 PM
I'm afraid this forum will be very empty very soon.

If a blogger blogs in an empty blog...does he ever really blog?

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2006, 03:58 PM
1st and 10, Brunell takes a knee.

All I can say is... wow.

Coming into the season, I thought our D was going to be a lot better than this. Now, I don't know if we're going to win more than 2-3 games this year.

valleytexfan
09-24-2006, 03:58 PM
I'm afraid this forum will be very empty very soon.

I'll be here...cheering my team on...even though they need some kind, any kind of DEFENSE.:hides:

Vinny
09-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Sorry Vinny... emotional outburst. Get's tough to see my Texans go down like this.it's all good...this place is gonna be ugly around here for a while. I think we are going to see a ton of venting around here.... :hides:

Brandon420tx
09-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Isn't he the guy with the most consecutive completions to start a game?
ROFL

Honoring Earl 34
09-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Some will say this is the curse of Reggie ... I say this is the curse of Aaron Glen .:confused:

ccdude730
09-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Who besides me is going to take a break from the MB this week?

I'm thinking toga parties.

i am going to take a break as well. too many opinions to keep me sane

HoustonFan
09-24-2006, 04:00 PM
Defense was horrible today. But can't just put it on them, b/c if the offense could stay on the field a bit longer defense probably wouldn't have been so winded.

Mysteryhunt
09-24-2006, 04:00 PM
They are better than Rice...so we probably don't have a shot.

hey! no reason to hate on rice! GO OWLS!!

Vinny
09-24-2006, 04:00 PM
This is the first game we didn't let a QB get over 300 yards and 3tds, that means we're improving right?
we gave up 500 yards today...um, no

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/teamstats/NFL_20060924_WAS@HOU

TexansLucky13
09-24-2006, 04:01 PM
it's all good...this place is gonna be ugly around here for a while. I think we are going to see a ton of venting around here.... :hides:

I knew you'd understand. I will go vent at the gym here in a minute.

Even so....

:fans:

Runner
09-24-2006, 04:01 PM
How many times did Washington punt?

tulexan
09-24-2006, 04:02 PM
How many times did Washington punt?

How many times has anyone punted against us?

The Dream
09-24-2006, 04:04 PM
How many times has anyone punted against us?

Since watching the texans this year I forgot what a punt was....along with defense...........does someone care to refresh my memory?

Wolf
09-24-2006, 04:05 PM
Defense was horrible today. But can't just put it on them, b/c if the offense could stay on the field a bit longer defense probably wouldn't have been so winded.


I disagree with that..good defenses don't consistantly give up 3rd down plays for 1 st downs.. That gets the offense back on the field. Redskins 9-13 on 3rd down plays.

we aren't good offensively to take over a game and defensively we ...well there are no words to describe it

edo783
09-24-2006, 04:08 PM
Looks like we have our order in for a top 5 pick.

JDizzle
09-24-2006, 04:09 PM
Excuse me while I kiss the sky ....

Txn_in_Oki
09-24-2006, 04:15 PM
I'm just glad I got to watch this one at home. I don't think I could take a kick to the balls like this in public again.

*note to self. No more getting excited when the Texans score on their first drive*

underdog65
09-24-2006, 04:18 PM
Miami won today!!!!!

brncoz1fan
09-24-2006, 04:20 PM
WOW ~~ A lot of you in here act as if you are coming off of a Super Bowl win from last year. Get some perspective and have some faith!! I am a firm believer, as a die hard Broncos fan, that all this negative energy spent against your own team makes it worse. The power of positive thinking can work miracles. Look at the Broncos over the years. I believe a lot of their success as a team is about the fans and support from them. I thought TEXAS was some huge football state. Buck up campers and stop crying in that crap Shiner Bock you all (or is it ya'all) call beer. I bought Sunday Ticket just to watch the Texans. Believe me I bet there are more then a few people on the Broncos team and coaching staff along with fans that wish we still had Kubiak and Dayne. I have faith and hope and see promise for the Texans to get better and better. It would help if some more Texans Fans would get behind me because it is tough work being a FAN when things may not look so good for my team and really hard when negative energy is trying to go against me.

Htown34s
09-24-2006, 04:25 PM
I bought Sunday Ticket just to watch the Texans.

We're not giving up, just can't take anymore. Its been five years of games like today. We're just not enthusiastic anymore. If you are after this, you have to be some sort of masochist... "Thank you sir can I have another!?" "Thank you sir can I have another!?" "Thank you sir can I have another!?"

Mr teX
09-24-2006, 04:30 PM
What pinpoint accuracy Carr displayed right there.

Accuracy? you can't be serious, I don't know how much accuracy you can display on what was basically a Hail Mary pass to the end zone. He threw it up & our garbage 6 ft. something wide reciever couldn't make a play on the ball at all. He did the same thing with AJ twice & AJ couldn't make a play AJ just got bailed out with the PI. At that point, it was just do or die time. I'm all for criticizing DC when he's screwing up, but you can't fault the dude for having faith in his wideouts, the statement you made above was just dumb.

rmartin65
09-24-2006, 04:30 PM
don't kill yourself man....you're way too young and there's always next year!

LOL. I just got sick of the game.

Mr teX
09-24-2006, 04:35 PM
WOW ~~ A lot of you in here act as if you are coming off of a Super Bowl win from last year. Get some perspective and have some faith!! I am a firm believer, as a die hard Broncos fan, that all this negative energy spent against your own team makes it worse. The power of positive thinking can work miracles. Look at the Broncos over the years. I believe a lot of their success as a team is about the fans and support from them. I thought TEXAS was some huge football state. Buck up campers and stop crying in that crap Shiner Bock you all (or is it ya'all) call beer. I bought Sunday Ticket just to watch the Texans. Believe me I bet there are more then a few people on the Broncos team and coaching staff along with fans that wish we still had Kubiak and Dayne. I have faith and hope and see promise for the Texans to get better and better. It would help if some more Texans Fans would get behind me because it is tough work being a FAN when things may not look so good for my team and really hard when negative energy is trying to go against me.

The sad thing is, your a Broncos fan having to come in here and say this. I'm with you, i've been watching & paying for 5 years just like everyone else, & though i may scream at the television set when the actual game is on, once it is off i can relax again. Some fans on this board just don't want to hear that it's going to take yet more time & talent b4 this team can compete.

Vinny
09-24-2006, 04:36 PM
Accuracy? you can't be serious, I don't know how much accuracy you can display on what was basically a Hail Mary pass to the end zone. He threw it up & our garbage 6 ft. something wide reciever couldn't make a play on the ball at all. He did the same thing with AJ twice & AJ couldn't make a play AJ just got bailed out with the PI. At that point, it was just do or die time. I'm all for criticizing DC when he's screwing up, but you can't fault the dude for having faith in his wideouts, the statement you made above was just dumb.
that was a miserable pass that was under thrown and the DB was sitting waiting for it to come down in his mitts. The carr apologists are incredible.

Wolf
09-24-2006, 04:48 PM
Kinda goes with the Carr haters..

IF that Deep ball would have been a touchdown..all Carr haters would say it is a garbage stat.. since it was an INT it fuels the fire that Carr can't throw the deep ball (he had a nice deep ball earlier in the game) so isn't that INT a "garbage stat" too??

I just don't get it..If Carr throws a short pass and AJ gets some YAC ..carr haters say.. Carr throws short again and AJ made him look good.. Well AJ got to the pro bowl by taking a short pass and getting yards..

I am surpised noone opened a thread about Weigart for costing us a good gain to potentially get us a score ..He killed an early drive before the game got out of hand

Heck Brunnell lived off that all day long against the Texan defense..


Carr isn't perfect, yet he isn't the worst problem on this team at this particular time..

Vinny
09-24-2006, 04:50 PM
Kinda goes with the Carr haters..

IF that Deep ball would have been a touchdown..all Carr haters would say it is a garbage stat.. since it was an INT it fuels the fire that Carr can't throw the deep ball (he had a nice deep ball earlier in the game) so isn't that INT a "garbage stat" too??

I just don't get it..If Carr throws a short pass and AJ gets some YAC ..carr haters say.. Carr throws short again and AJ made him look good.. Well AJ got to the pro bowl by taking a short pass and getting yards..

I am surpised noone opened a thread about Weigart for costing us a good gain to potentially get us a score ..He killed an early drive before the game got out of hand

Heck Brunnell lived off that all day long against the Texan defense..


Carr isn't perfect, yet he isn't the worst problem on this team at this particular time..


Carr had some great passes today....but lets call the great passes great and the bad passes bad at least.

Wolf
09-24-2006, 04:52 PM
Carr had some great passes today....but lets call the great passes great and the bad passes bad at least.

I agree with you, some of the people posting during the game made me shake my head.

texasguy346
09-24-2006, 04:55 PM
Let's also keep in mind if it weren't for Thomas Johnson and his boneheaded penalty on the fumble return by Orr we wouldn't be talking about Carr's INT. However, since it did happen I can't for the life of me understand why Kubiak would call or Carr would check to a deep pass play like that one with neither AJ or Moulds on the field.

Vinny
09-24-2006, 05:02 PM
Let's also keep in mind if it weren't for Thomas Johnson and his boneheaded penalty on the fumble return by Orr we wouldn't be talking about Carr's INT. However, since it did happen I can't for the life of me understand why Kubiak would call or Carr would check to a deep pass play like that one with neither AJ or Moulds on the field.We still had a shot at a win if Carr doesn't put it up for grabs...but you can't do that and win shootouts in the NFL. A score there and we are only down one score. The game was still in reach...but not after the pick.

BattleRed37
09-24-2006, 05:03 PM
This team SUCKS! This team really do need Jesus right about now. Offense sucks, and defense just plan dumb. Redskins did the same plays over and over again, and this defense still can't catch on.

This is a cruse team.

texasguy346
09-24-2006, 05:06 PM
We still had a shot at a win if Carr doesn't put it up for grabs...but you can't do that and win shootouts in the NFL. A score there and we are only down one score. The game was still in reach...but not after the pick.

Absolutely it was, but again I'm not seeing why they had Walter and Sheppard on the field if you're planning on throwing it deep. It was still a bad choice by Carr to throw into double coverage like that.

ESAD2-14
09-24-2006, 05:07 PM
I knew we would be bad........Just not this bad.

Was an Oilers fan through the thick and thin, I will remain a Texans fan through the thick and thin. Even though it is mostly thin right now.

Vinny
09-24-2006, 05:07 PM
Absolutely it was, but again I'm not seeing why they had Walter and Sheppard on the field if you're planning on throwing it deep. It was still a bad choice by Carr to throw into double coverage like that.I don't think the choice of pass was as bad as the pass itself. If you are going to do that you can't just toss it up like a punt (he did that twice today - the earlier one dropped by the Wash CB). You have to throw it in the back corner where only your guy has a shot at it.

Texan Ned
09-24-2006, 05:11 PM
That was another pitiful performance. Imagine if we had not upgraded by adding Moulds and Flanagan. Wait, I guess you have to go out and find HEART somewhere else. I don't know where the Texans might find some, but it seems that a trip to OZ would not be out of the questions. While there, it would be nice to get some brains as well, for those of us who are season ticket holders and were too stupid that we bought into the "Mario is the best pick" sales pitch. As the guys on the radio said afterward. "It was a stupid pick. Everyone in the NFL knew it was a stupid pick. Well, everyone but the Texans." Jesus-God what a bad team and a waste of time driving over from Beaumont. I seriously don't think that this team is ANY better than last year, and will be lucky to win 2 games this year, if they don't split with the Titans and beat the Raiders.

bigTEXan8
09-24-2006, 05:12 PM
I agree with you, some of the people posting during the game made me shake my head.

carr made some piss-poor throws today, and he had some good ones. and our d made brunell look like peyton frickin' manning.

texasguy346
09-24-2006, 05:12 PM
I don't think the choice of pass was as bad as the pass itself. If you are going to do that you can't just toss it up like a punt (he did that twice today - the earlier one dropped by the Wash CB). You have to throw it in the back corner where only your guy has a shot at it.

You'd have to think that if they've got a safety and a corner on Walter that the dump off pass to the RB or TE would be open underneath. I haven't gotten a chance to look at the play to see if they had a dump off, but it seems to me you'd go with the safe pass in that situation to pick up some yards and maybe a first. No doubt that Carr didn't throw the ball well either. He seemed to underthrow it a bit much like the one he threw to AJ where Rogers had him well covered.

Texan Ned
09-24-2006, 05:15 PM
We're not giving up, just can't take anymore. Its been five years of games like today. We're just not enthusiastic anymore. If you are after this, you have to be some sort of masochist... "Thank you sir can I have another!?" "Thank you sir can I have another!?" "Thank you sir can I have another!?"

I don't think that any comment could sum it up any better.

actionbull
09-24-2006, 07:24 PM
These guys just act like they are cashing a check and trying not to get hurt. Ryans is the only one who hits like he means it... Does this defense know what containment means? I have never seen a team get burned on cutbacks all game long and never make any adjustments. This is pro ball.

Napa Auto Parts
09-24-2006, 07:24 PM
Well it was a great Game by our Texans that played at their best it wont get any better at least not anytime soon:twocents:

cowboy62
09-24-2006, 07:34 PM
one question,do you think yall got a chance against the cowboy's?


NOT!!!!!!!!!! T. O. IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH YOUR DB'S.

brncoz1fan
09-24-2006, 07:49 PM
Hey Carr has the best pass rating in the NFL right now~~that says something

Mr teX
09-24-2006, 08:41 PM
that was a miserable pass that was under thrown and the DB was sitting waiting for it to come down in his mitts. The carr apologists are incredible.

Please, you dudes criticized him last year for not looking downfield enough & not trusting his recievers to make a play on the ball, then when he does, you have the above statement. Other Teams do this all the time (Eli to Plax all day last week anyone?), Is it his fault Kubes & Co. had Walter & Sheppard on the field? It was probably mean't as deception anyway; having your 3rd ,4th wideout on the field the defense relaxes thinking that you won't go deep with them. Furthermore you don't exactly have all the time in the world & only 1 Timeout left. I never said it was a "great" pass, didn't even say it was a "good" pass but you guys act like it was thrown on a frozen rope straight to wright. If Walter was any good, he could have at least touched the darn ball.

Mr. Old School
09-24-2006, 09:17 PM
The Texans offense is void of any type of leadership and the defense is in the identical situation. Into year 5, Carr still can't find the snap from center and balls are still being batted down by the opposition. We still have a rookie quarterback. No, it's not all his fault, but he should take his large share of the blame. How can the Texans win games with these deficiencies? I say 5 - 11.

rmartin65
09-24-2006, 09:18 PM
Hey Carr has the best pass rating in the NFL right now~~that says something

Does he really? I knew he was up there, but I thought some other guys were further up. Anyway, Carr had some bad throws, but also showed why he was a number 1 pick.

jacquescas
09-24-2006, 11:16 PM
At this point our offensive line is horrible. We have no running game to speak of. Our defensive line applies absolutely no pressure, Mario Williams has shown nothing. Our linebackers and corners are average but with no pressure from the D-line they can't perform at all. Dunta Robinson is the only bright spot on defense, and Demeco Ryans.

I love this team but it seems like we fixed nothing. Thank god rockets season is almost here

Aztequila
09-25-2006, 01:18 AM
Just a question I have, is there no way we can get a real HB. I thought getting dayne would work, so far no dice, I thought Gado showed promise, but he isnt being given the chance. I think we will continue to loose until we get a decent runner, or someone who is at least percieved as one. Is there no number 2 back in the league that may be ready to be featured available, right now it seems like we have 3 number 3s.

powerfuldragon
09-25-2006, 09:21 AM
Just a question I have, is there no way we can get a real HB. I thought getting dayne would work, so far no dice, I thought Gado showed promise, but he isnt being given the chance. I think we will continue to loose until we get a decent runner, or someone who is at least percieved as one. Is there no number 2 back in the league that may be ready to be featured available, right now it seems like we have 3 number 3s.
how can you assess a running game that wasn't used in the 2nd half?

RedTexan
09-25-2006, 10:21 AM
:crutch: The Texans offense is void of any type of leadership and the defense is in the identical situation. Into year 5, Carr still can't find the snap from center and balls are still being batted down by the opposition. We still have a rookie quarterback. No, it's not all his fault, but he should take his large share of the blame. How can the Texans win games with these deficiencies? I say 5 - 11.

I absolutely agree! It all boils down to leadership, and respect. It doesn't appear like there is anyone on the Texans offense that has stepped into that leadership position. David Carr is talented, and in an established offense could probably step in and be all pro, but maybe he's not cut out for the situation he's in.
Everyone admitted in the pre-season games that Antowain Smith brought the intangibles to the field, leadership and experience, and then they cut him and keep Morency and Taylor who were then traded and cut. I don't understand the management call on that one. I realize pre-season may not mean a whole lot, but we looked decent in pre-season, and now...well, now here we are again.

I love this team, and I'll continue to support them til the going gets good.:crutch:

My 2 cents.

texan's blue
09-25-2006, 11:34 AM
:crutch:

I absolutely agree! It all boils down to leadership, and respect. It doesn't appear like there is anyone on the Texans offense that has stepped into that leadership position. David Carr is talented, and in an established offense could probably step in and be all pro, but maybe he's not cut out for the situation he's in.
Everyone admitted in the pre-season games that Antowain Smith brought the intangibles to the field, leadership and experience, and then they cut him and keep Morency and Taylor who were then traded and cut. I don't understand the management call on that one. I realize pre-season may not mean a whole lot, but we looked decent in pre-season, and now...well, now here we are again.

I love this team, and I'll continue to support them til the going gets good.:crutch:

My 2 cents.


I think that sums it up... no leadership on either side of the ball.

coachdent
09-25-2006, 02:40 PM
Just a question I have, is there no way we can get a real HB. I thought getting dayne would work, so far no dice, I thought Gado showed promise, but he isnt being given the chance. I think we will continue to loose until we get a decent runner, or someone who is at least percieved as one. Is there no number 2 back in the league that may be ready to be featured available, right now it seems like we have 3 number 3s.


First of all, Ron Dayne was not the problem yesterday. Giving up 400 yards of offense to the Washington Redskins was the problem.

Dayne has been actually pretty good compared to what we had. DD is not healthy and we didn't draft RBush, so I think picking up Dayne was a good move. He rushed for 4.1 a carry yesterday which isn't half bad. Gado apparently hasn't gotten the offense yet, so there really aren't any options out there fo rthe Texans. Name me a free agent out there who is a better option than Dayne, and I'll say Dayne is a problem. We have far more pressing concerns. Namely:

- Putting pressure on aging quarterbacks.
- Putting in a blitzing pressure package to defend the run and pass.
- Getting out of hideous prevent defenses with 9 seconds to go in the half and allowing a 30 yard touchdown on a simple trap.
- Finding a #3 wide receiver and a servicable #4 who can be on the field in 3rd and 9 instead of a fullback and two tight ends.
- Fining boneheaded defensive linemen who take cheap shots at quarterbacks when your team is running back a fumble for a touchdown.

Ron Dayne is not on the radar in pressing concerns.

Nawzer
09-25-2006, 03:49 PM
Yesterday's loss was really disheartening. I really thought we had a chance to win this game. Started of well enough but it all fell apart. Even after they came back to tie the game I thought we still have a good chance of winning. But that Portis run to end the half was killer. Absolute disaster. The defense is horrible. And don't talk about how much better it could've been if we drafted Bush or Young. Unless those two can play run stuffing defense or pass rush they wouldn't help us win. And I was a draft Bush guy! The Texans made us think that the defense really improved over the off season but it's gotten worse! Why does Richard Smith keep running away?! This guy basically scolded everyone in draft day so where is he now? How will the players respond if their coaches are like this??? The offense showed competence but once again too many mistakes. But this loss fall squarely on the shoulders of the defense. Even if they played average defense we could've won this game. But now I'm not sure when we get our first win. I'm hoping it's against Miami but if we could've provide pressure on a 36 year old qb how the hell will we stop a big, mobile qb like Culpepper?

Aztequila
09-25-2006, 08:27 PM
First of all, Ron Dayne was not the problem yesterday. Giving up 400 yards of offense to the Washington Redskins was the problem.

I agree with the second part of your statement wholeheartedly. As for the first about Dayne. It's not that I think dayne is a bad back for the team, he was grinding it out on the field and looks like a work horse. The only thing is that we need a burst every once and a while, someone to cut up field and run, which I hear is our running plan. I guess I'm a bit premature in writing off the running game, but I was frustrated after seeing how well portis and betts did. The defense is more the pressing concern, your right about that.

coachdent
09-26-2006, 07:38 AM
I agree with the second part of your statement wholeheartedly. As for the first about Dayne. It's not that I think dayne is a bad back for the team, he was grinding it out on the field and looks like a work horse. The only thing is that we need a burst every once and a while, someone to cut up field and run, which I hear is our running plan. I guess I'm a bit premature in writing off the running game, but I was frustrated after seeing how well portis and betts did. The defense is more the pressing concern, your right about that.

No question about the burst or lack thereof with Dayne. Definitely need a more explosive back. But for what he is and what he does and what he is capable of doing, I think Dayne is doing the best he can with the tools he has.