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Divebomb
08-28-2006, 12:19 AM
Well I would have to say that Denver was the game I thought for sure would bring our guys into the spotlight or at least get some type of love. Denver comming of a game where the first team Offense has 28 point by half time last week and rushed for over 220 yrds rushing last week and we shut there running game down. Plummer threw almost 3 times as many passes against us yet he barely matched his passing yards from last week when he only attempted 8 passes. Cutler, who the media has hyped to be the next Tom Brady, looked like crap under pressure against our second and third string Defense. I guess it doesn't matter, hopefully the rest of the NFL was not watching so when we play Philly it will that much better when we stomp a mude hole in em. Morency and Lundy out performed the Bell's, Carr humm stats say he played better than Plummer, and now that I look back at the game he actually did play better than plummer. Regardless, I hope we can fly under the radar long enough to pick up some unexpected wins.

Vinny
08-28-2006, 12:25 AM
Didn't the game just finish like a couple of hours ago?

ledzeppelin229
08-28-2006, 12:43 AM
And didn't the first team offense look incompetent? Carr looked clueless until the last 3 minutes of the 2nd quarter and when he played part of the 3rd quarter. I honestly didn't even know if Johnson and Moulds were even playing until close to the 2nd half because they never got a ball thrown their way. Not to mention Morency didn't get to play until the 2nd half and I've been more impressed with him than Lundy.

Personally I don't want to see what the media has to say...the score was close but our first team offense was atrocious.

Grid
08-28-2006, 12:57 AM
we also got our best offensive play when our 1st string offense went up against the Denver 2nd string defense.

Roughnecks
08-28-2006, 01:10 AM
Defence played great and it would have been a diffrent out com if not for the field position we gave them. Now the offence looked bad but to their defence and even the Bronco players mention this Denver see's this every day they even said it was like pratice because they knew the plays by the formations we were in. I still thought they would have done better I like to see them go deep more often like on play action. Our guy's have not played this type of offence that long so I bet we give them a much harder game next time offence wise. Besides I figure next week game would show were we are at because Tampa D is a beast but unlike Denver they don't know the offence, even if the 2nd and 3rd string play most of the game we should have a good idea were we are at.

rafterticket
08-28-2006, 01:31 AM
You really didn't quote any media sources, and I see no else has said this but in the short time after the game I was very happy with the way Sterling Sharpe spoke about the Texans during the game, and I thought Rich Eisen and Steve Mariucci were very positive about the team and their direction. Their comments were critical, but very positive, and if I remember correctly, it was Rich Eisen who said very early last year that the Texans STUNK.

Anyway, I've taken some good from watching tonight's game, on the defensive side of the ball, to be sure. The offense.........it would be very fair to say that I hope Kubes does some grilling. My big question as a fan is do we have to do that rollout so much because we can't hold the pocket?

quicksilver
08-28-2006, 04:13 AM
do we have to do that rollout so much because we can't hold the pocket?

My understanding is that we do that rollout so much because it gets the O-line moving in such a way that the initial look on the rollout pass is just like that of an outside run, with the purpose of catching the opposing defense off guard.

TEXANRED
08-28-2006, 07:33 AM
And didn't the first team offense look incompetent? Carr looked clueless until the last 3 minutes of the 2nd quarter and when he played part of the 3rd quarter. I honestly didn't even know if Johnson and Moulds were even playing until close to the 2nd half because they never got a ball thrown their way. Not to mention Morency didn't get to play until the 2nd half and I've been more impressed with him than Lundy.

Personally I don't want to see what the media has to say...the score was close but our first team offense was atrocious.

Don't take this the wrong way, the offense did look out of sink, however, thats the Broncos D. That is easily a top 5 D this year. Don't forget either, the Broncos were also in the AFC championship game last year. Thats a darn good team.

That being said, when you play a good team you can't make mistakes like Spencers hold on our own 17 yard line, you can't line up over the center on a field goal(gives Broncos first down results a touchdown), Owens can't jump offsides on fourth and inches when you are at the 10 yard line going in for a score, you can't throw an INT, if your going out for a deep pass you should sprint, not jog (Moulds) and Finely if you are the highest payed player on the team and six foot plus, 220 lbs and you are thrown a ball where you are given the chance to make a play, you have to be able to out jump the smaller shorter guy(Johnson).

That just my take on the game. The D looked stellar. Go Ryan's. I once asked "Who the heck is this guy?" Now I know.

nunusguy
08-28-2006, 08:01 AM
I'm very happy with the game results, considering we played against one of the leagues best in their most difficult home field stadium at altitude (many of our guys have never been above sea level while the Bronos practice in altitude every day), and it was the next to last preseason game when the Broncos made an honest effort instrerad of just going thru the motions.
We should be thrilled with the defense ! And the the D-Line is very good and very deep. And DeMeco - wow, what a pick !
The offense, well its inconsistant but shows promise at times. I dunno, its a
work in process. But its of far more concern at this time than the D.

O.G.
08-28-2006, 08:03 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, the offense did look out of sink, however, thats the Broncos D. That is easily a top 5 D this year. Don't forget either, the Broncos were also in the AFC championship game last year. Thats a darn good team.

That being said, when you play a good team you can't make mistakes like Spencers hold on our own 17 yard line, you can't line up over the center on a field goal(gives Broncos first down results a touchdown), Owens can't jump offsides on fourth and inches when you are at the 10 yard line going in for a score, you can't throw an INT, if your going out for a deep pass you should sprint, not jog (Moulds) and Finely if you are the highest payed player on the team and six foot plus, 220 lbs and you are thrown a ball where you are given the chance to make a play, you have to be able to out jump the smaller shorter guy(Johnson).

That just my take on the game. The D looked stellar. Go Ryan's. I once asked "Who the heck is this guy?" Now I know.

You are on point with your analysis. 6'-3" should not get out jumped by 5'-8". All in all I was very happy with our performance. You can't expect an offense that is just beginning to learn a system to beat a team that has run that system for over 11 years. Not going to happen. Also, let's not forget, for the first 25 mins of the game, neither team scored anything regardless how long Denver had the game and with the expection of a bad call (Take a look at the replay, he didn't line up over the noseguard) and a bad play (TE Rookie mistake), the score could have easily been 6-3 or 10-6 Texans. I also like Lundy's performance regardless of the fumble. That will happen occasionally.

Cjeremy635
08-28-2006, 08:08 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, the offense did look out of sink, however, thats the Broncos D. That is easily a top 5 D this year. Don't forget either, the Broncos were also in the AFC championship game last year. Thats a darn good team.

That being said, when you play a good team you can't make mistakes like Spencers hold on our own 17 yard line, you can't line up over the center on a field goal(gives Broncos first down results a touchdown), Owens can't jump offsides on fourth and inches when you are at the 10 yard line going in for a score, you can't throw an INT, if your going out for a deep pass you should sprint, not jog (Moulds) and Finely if you are the highest payed player on the team and six foot plus, 220 lbs and you are thrown a ball where you are given the chance to make a play, you have to be able to out jump the smaller shorter guy(Johnson).

That just my take on the game. The D looked stellar. Go Ryan's. I once asked "Who the heck is this guy?" Now I know.


I echoed the same sentiments to myself last night. Good points and I agree with everything you said. Moulds should have kicked in another gear and Johnson has to learn to use his size advantage and be a more physical receiver. There is no way he should have let that little guy own him like that. Owens made a bad mistake that cost us dearly as well as other penalties from other players. Those are mistakes that can be corrected (hopefully) with preaching discipline.

gtexan02
08-28-2006, 09:03 AM
I just watched the replays on ESPN, and I think its fair to t he original poster that we received no media love. The replays were as follows:
Javon Walker's 3 catches.
Cutler's completions.
Tatum Bell's 1 yard run.

Thats it. No Texans D, no Texans O, no anything Texans. You wouldn't even realize it was us they wer eplaying against except they mentioned Kubiak was Shanny's protegee

texflex513
08-28-2006, 10:37 AM
I just watched the replays on ESPN, and I think its fair to t he original poster that we received no media love. The replays were as follows:
Javon Walker's 3 catches.
Cutler's completions.
Tatum Bell's 1 yard run.

Thats it. No Texans D, no Texans O, no anything Texans. You wouldn't even realize it was us they wer eplaying against except they mentioned Kubiak was Shanny's protegee

I have seen this for years from BSpn they done the same thing to the bengals but now they are on the cincy sack....When we start winning watch how they put a spin on the texans being good...but how much better we would be if we had taken Beggie Rush....BSpn is a joke...

El Tejano
08-28-2006, 11:34 AM
I have seen this for years from BSpn they done the same thing to the bengals but now they are on the cincy sack....When we start winning watch how they put a spin on the texans being good...but how much better we would be if we had taken Beggie Rush....BSpn is a joke...
I agree.

I kind of figured us going against a team like Denver would bring us back to reality.

Of course Austin (Dallas South) didn't show the game so I didn't see. Based on what I read, I figure we did better than I expected considering Denver was one game from the SB and they know our offense. If you look at how both defenses performed it was pretty evident each knew each others plays.

The one thing I did want to see though was an effective David Carr because of all the above. I did not see that. I'm not worried but I did want see him do better to help in the confidence department.

Last nights game showed that Carr still has much to learn and I hope he can make that adjustment before Sept 10.

From what I hear there were some stalled drives due to penalties though.

Divebomb
08-28-2006, 12:05 PM
Dude do I really need to post the media links to prove my point. Anyone who had to listed to the Bronco Biased commentary by the NFL network, or Marshall (hasbeen) Faulk could have understood my assesment. The comments by Much were a bit different durring the post game but the guy gave no props to Kubiak, plus his pregame comments of Kubiak taking the Texans job made me laugh. Just because Much destroyed what was a good San Fran team, and then went to Detroit and choked like a chump, he has to slam Kubiak. News flash Much, you are in commentary because no owner in the world would want you as a coach. More proof that hasbeen commentary sucks.

chuckm
08-28-2006, 12:08 PM
Who cares? What have we done to deserve anything other than negative attention or outright apathy from the national media?

When we win consistently, they'll come ... proclaiming all the while that they knew it all along ...

Roughnecks
08-28-2006, 12:42 PM
It doesn't matter they do not cover houston sports period. Not the Texans,Rockets, or the Astros shoot look at lat year the Stros go the WS and all you here about is the Whitesox or what the Yankees and Redsox are going to do to get to the WS next year. Rockets as well we get Tracy no coverage and when we had the Oilers all the talk about is the Bills game. Hell when the Stros play on espn even if the game is sold out they black it out so do not expect them to show the Texans even if the win a Superbowl in our life time. Lets just stick with our website and the Texans Huddle on FSN.

FILO_girl
08-28-2006, 01:05 PM
Who cares? What have we done to deserve anything other than negative attention or outright apathy from the national media?

When we win consistently, they'll come ... proclaiming all the while that they knew it all along ...

So true, so true.

While we are playing on a clean slate, everyone else sees 2-14 and they will until that changes. There are many out there who think we don't even deserve to play in the arena league, let alone the NFL and alot of the spin from the media implies this too. We have gotten some love on getting Kubes, addressing the O line (a teeny little bit, but still some), and some great FA pickups. We will have to deal with all the freakos who can't fart an original idea and believe we are the saddest of the sad for passing on Saint Reggie. Let them think that, I just yell at the TV to get that frustration out. Its better than beating the dog (which ain't right in any situation, no hate mail from PETA, please).

Jwwillis
08-28-2006, 01:27 PM
It doesn't matter they do not cover houston sports period. Not the Texans,Rockets, or the Astros shoot look at lat year the Stros go the WS and all you here about is the Whitesox or what the Yankees and Redsox are going to do to get to the WS next year. Rockets as well we get Tracy no coverage and when we had the Oilers all the talk about is the Bills game. Hell when the Stros play on espn even if the game is sold out they black it out so do not expect them to show the Texans even if the win a Superbowl in our life time. Lets just stick with our website and the Texans Huddle on FSN.

My favorite was when Houston won its 1st NBA title and Sports Illustrated featured Patrick Ewing on the cover. They said the Houston market didn't warrent coverage.

afcman
08-28-2006, 01:51 PM
All we have to do is WIN !!!! :shades:

ESPN is full of north-eastern libs who care more about baseball.

cuppacoffee
08-28-2006, 01:59 PM
And didn't the first team offense look incompetent? Carr looked clueless until the last 3 minutes of the 2nd quarter and when he played part of the 3rd quarter. I honestly didn't even know if Johnson and Moulds were even playing until close to the 2nd half because they never got a ball thrown their way. Not to mention Morency didn't get to play until the 2nd half and I've been more impressed with him than Lundy.

Personally I don't want to see what the media has to say...the score was close but our first team offense was atrocious.

Until all pro :rolleyes: 6'2" Andre can out jump and out muscle a 5'9" DB I wouldn't throw any more his way either.

Moulds decided to just trot down the field on one of his pass patterns.

But never mind it caused him to be overthrown, its all Carrs fault.

:coffee:

Pantherstang84
08-28-2006, 10:34 PM
I just watched the replays on ESPN, and I think its fair to t he original poster that we received no media love. The replays were as follows:
Javon Walker's 3 catches.
Cutler's completions.
Tatum Bell's 1 yard run.

Thats it. No Texans D, no Texans O, no anything Texans. You wouldn't even realize it was us they wer eplaying against except they mentioned Kubiak was Shanny's protegee

ESPN?! Don't look at today's Houston Moronicle. McClain and Justice were in rare cry baby form. The way they talked, we might as well close up shop right now.

How can you expect love from the nation media when the hometown boys go an rants like those.

U4ikrob
08-29-2006, 06:30 AM
My favorite was when Houston won its 1st NBA title and Sports Illustrated featured Patrick Ewing on the cover. They said the Houston market didn't warrent coverage.

I remember that game and the magazines response too - To this day I wont buy a sports illustrated - My lone exception was the following year when we won our second title and they gave out free issues in Houston to try and make up for not doing it the previous year. I took the issue and put it in my collectible box. - National media have always snubbed Houston as were not a major TV market to them. The problem is Houston Sports teams in general havent been consistently good at really anytime other than a few short years before flaming out. The Exception is the WNBA Comets whom have shown a great fan base and wo n4 titles in a row thus starting the league and establishing a legacy as winners. Overall for the men's sports were inconsistent 2nd placers who havent toed the line and won regular titles or playoff spots in any major sport, made big enough roster moves and improvements everyyear to merit media coverage attention like other clubs have done in cities garnering and catering to that attention. The media is cyclic and feeds its own.

nunusguy
08-29-2006, 07:27 AM
Until all pro :rolleyes: 6'2" Andre can out jump and out muscle a 5'9" DB I wouldn't throw any more his way either.
Moulds decided to just trot down the field on one of his pass patterns.
But never mind it caused him to be overthrown, its all Carrs fault.
:coffee:
Yea, I also gotta defend Carr on these 2 plays, both of which were very good
passes by DC. I mean I've been critical of him in this preseason and he surely has been inconsistant and made mistakes. But he's also made some plays and both AJ and Moulds were disappointing on these 2 plays, not DC.
We finally get AJ on some one-on-one coverage with a player who is about
a half foot shorter and 30 lbs lighter than him and the Bronco DB outfights AJ for the ball. Some were saying AJ was not prepared, off balance or something when the ball got to him. Well one of the reasons we pay him a lot of money is to use his superior athletic ability skills to react quickly, gather himself and make a play in a situation just like this.
And Moulds was dogging it and that was a beautiful, accurate spiral that Carr thru.
Lets hopes these were just isolated preseason incidents and not indicative of what we'll see beginning in September.

Texas
08-29-2006, 08:13 AM
Two Words...Thats Life

Jwwillis
09-02-2006, 06:37 AM
I remember that game and the magazines response too - To this day I wont buy a sports illustrated - My lone exception was the following year when we won our second title and they gave out free issues in Houston to try and make up for not doing it the previous year. I took the issue and put it in my collectible box. - National media have always snubbed Houston as were not a major TV market to them. The problem is Houston Sports teams in general havent been consistently good at really anytime other than a few short years before flaming out. The Exception is the WNBA Comets whom have shown a great fan base and wo n4 titles in a row thus starting the league and establishing a legacy as winners. Overall for the men's sports were inconsistent 2nd placers who havent toed the line and won regular titles or playoff spots in any major sport, made big enough roster moves and improvements everyyear to merit media coverage attention like other clubs have done in cities garnering and catering to that attention. The media is cyclic and feeds its own.

If your not in NY,Chi,LA you gotta win for air time and thats no guarantee.

HoustonFan
09-02-2006, 08:09 AM
All we have to do is WIN !!!! :shades:

ESPN is full of north-eastern libs who care more about baseball.

True that. But even after winning the media won't give us any love. Case in point - '94 Rockets Championship Sports Illustrated sure had those NY Knicks mags ready to go - those broads. Ah well.

Also, you are so right about ESPN and their love for baseball. I hat that the only station I can get at work is ESPN 790. I'm a fair weather baseball fan - will follow when the Astros are actually in the playoffs. About 80% of the calls have been baseball related. I dunno, maybe it has something to do w/ playoffs coming up. Ah well hooray for football season.

My company has been anal on the internet use so the streaming is out of the question. Unless someone here knows how to get around it :cool:

BigDTexansFan
09-02-2006, 09:25 AM
You want to know why we get no love, Look at Chronicle and how many positive about being negative words flew out of Johnny Mac and his brethern AFTER game. Texans didn't play a great game (it is preseason), BUT had they not called penalty on 1st FG Texans win 14-13.

When your hometown media talks trash about you, do you expect the national guys to say why the local boys have it all wrong. NOT LIKELY so we will have to do as we did in 2002, if you won't give me respect I will beat it out of you until you respect me.

2002 Dallas Cowboys on HBO's "Hard Knocks" trash talked us, we went out on national TV and beat them. 2003 Miami Dolphins said it was a practice game for them, we practiced WINNING on them. We stunk in 2005 all over the place, 2006 is a new beginning for Texans. We need to treat 2006 like 2002, we will get respect by beating our opponents and when they are asked why they got beat "they will answer we got beat by a BETTER team" (I hope):ok: