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PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:16 PM
Does eveyone agree that Morency is going to be the starter come opening day? Lundy has been good, but Morency looks much better.

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 10:16 PM
Come on, you guys were beating up Carr when he was making short lobs to RBs. Why is it great when Sage does it?
Took the words outta my mouth

Flexo
08-27-2006, 10:16 PM
Man, how many false starts have we had? 23?

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 10:17 PM
nope 4 days ........

made me laugh ;)

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:17 PM
Another penalty! Awesome~

Goldeagle
08-27-2006, 10:17 PM
Kubiak and the O Coordinator have learn to accept Carr cant pass anything without getting picked if anyone is relatively close so dump passes become prioritiy


Most of the time when he throws the ball to them they drop it or blop it up in the air for a int.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:18 PM
Does eveyone agree that Morency is going to be the starter come opening day? Lundy has been good, but Morency looks much better.

Morency is the only back that hits the hole with urgency and hit the defender with urgency.

Nice block again by VM.

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 10:18 PM
Morency with ANOTHER great block in pass protection.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:18 PM
Are u serious? Eric Moulds and Aj? If you threw a good pass it wouldnt be a problem

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Lewis looked like an accordion on that one.

texflex513
08-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Come on, you guys were beating up Carr when he was making short lobs to RBs. Why is it great when Sage does it?

:hmmm:

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:19 PM
What happened on the play where Morency did a good block?

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:19 PM
How dare Carr throw to the short receiver on 3rd and 11! Bench him and get Sage! ... oh, wait, that WAS Sage!

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Dang it....doesn't look like he made it.

EDIT - My bad....great lunge by Morency.

Flexo
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Holy cow that was close...

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Sage does look more "poised" in the pocket, like he knows the playbook and what is going to happen on the field. Not saying he should be starting, but he looks in command.

Morency with the 1st down on 4th.

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

Htown34s
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
I really hope Lewis makes the team.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
What happened on the play where Morency did a good block?

Not a big play if a positive one at all, just noticeable protection.

Buckle
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Buchannon is out with Bruised ribs, are u serrious???

TFL
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Hey we are doing alot better then the Titans did against the Broncos. I know everybody probably knew this was going to happen, but i just wanted to say it.

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
10-6 north is winning

awtysst
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

10-6 Broncos

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

10-6, the Real Broncos.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

10 - 6 Denver North.

Htown34s
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Hey we are doing alot better then the Titans did against the Broncos. I know everybody probably knew this was going to happen, but i just wanted to say it.

true, true

TEXANS84
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

10-6 Broncos

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
Update on score please anybody?:)

Still 10-6. Broncs are challenging the spot on a Texans' 4th down conversion.

edo783
08-27-2006, 10:22 PM
10-6 Houston North

Marcus
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Does eveyone agree that Morency is going to be the starter come opening day? Lundy has been good, but Morency looks much better.

hehe . . shall I show him the rumor (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=418666&postcount=18)?:)

awtysst
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Still 10-6. Broncs are challenging the spot on a Texans' 4th down conversion.

how does it look on replay?

Htown34s
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Looks like the spot is good. First down.

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
10-6 Houston North
You get rep for that.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Are u saying first down? Or are they not sure yet

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:24 PM
how does it look on replay?

Apparently not conclusively short :) Texans crossing midfield at the end of 3rd quarter.

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:24 PM
Thanks guys, Dad is watching the news on this Hurricane that we may get hit with.

Flexo
08-27-2006, 10:24 PM
Ok, that was a weird broken play...

TEXANS84
08-27-2006, 10:25 PM
For two "offensive" teams, pretty low scoring game.

That is until Bennie Joppru takes the field...

Flexo
08-27-2006, 10:25 PM
Thanks guys, Dad is watching the news on this Hurricane that we may get hit with.

The tropical storm is going to Florida. It's not even a hurricane..

Malloy
08-27-2006, 10:25 PM
hehe . . shall I show him the rumor (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=418666&postcount=18)?:)

Marcus, stop that right now!! :)

edo783
08-27-2006, 10:25 PM
So far Sage and the guys are only looking so-so at best.

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:26 PM
For two "offensive" teams, pretty low scoring game.

Thats because the defenses are fed up with being overshadowed by the offenses.

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:27 PM
The tropical storm is going to Florida. It's not even a hurricane..Things can change in the blink of an eye, I'm not taking any chances with this storm If I could I'd :shoot: it down.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:27 PM
6 to go lets get it !! What receivers are in?

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:28 PM
6 to go lets get it !! What receivers are in?
1st and 10 at the denver 20.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:28 PM
6 to go lets get it !! What receivers are in?

The punt team receivers. :(

TK_Gamer
08-27-2006, 10:28 PM
So far Sage and the guys are only looking so-so at best.

sage not looking like he'll threaten carr's job so far...

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:28 PM
hehe . . shall I show him the rumor (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=418666&postcount=18)?:)

I've read the "rumor". To which I say, we'd be crazy to drop our best RB.

texflex513
08-27-2006, 10:28 PM
Wow sage under pressure... kinda looks like carr in there

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
For two "offensive" teams, pretty low scoring game.

That is until Bennie Joppru takes the field...Well at least you guys are holding ground.

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
The score looks like an old Bears v Vikings game back in the day.

Marcus
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
Marcus, stop that right now!! :)

But don't you think it's kinda weird that it was Lundy that played the entire first half, and Morency only came in the 2nd?

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
I've read the "rumor". To which I say, we'd be crazy to drop our best RB.


So Vernand Morency is better then Domanick Davis?

chuckm
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
sage not looking like he'll threaten carr's job so far...


I was expecting a TD ......

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:30 PM
Which defense is out for us right now?

chuckm
08-27-2006, 10:30 PM
So Vernand Morency is better then Domanick Davis?


No, but better than Lundy ....

Malloy
08-27-2006, 10:31 PM
But don't you think it's kinda weird that it was Lundy that played the entire first half, and Morency only came in the 2nd?

At first I did wonder about it. I've come to believe that the reason for this is that Morency IS the starter and Kubiak wanted to give Lundy some serious game time. Give Lundy the chance, give Morency some rest. :)

edo783
08-27-2006, 10:31 PM
Which defense is out for us right now?

Seconds for everyone

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:31 PM
Go Texans score if you can.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:31 PM
It seems the only difference in this game or the stupid mistakes made by the Texans. The mistake by alfred to turn 3 points into 7, and to defensive aproachments to give the broncos a first down, and the countless false starts, one that took us out of a easy 4th down conversion that possible took away another 4 points..........mistakes, mistakes, mistakes. I think our team was too nervous playing their coaches old team.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Which defense is out for us right now?

2nds and 3rds. Not looking great.

TK_Gamer
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
defense giving up?

TexanExile
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Which defense is out for us right now?

Tennessee's, by the looks of it.

Marcus
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
So Vernand Morency is better then Domanick Davis?

Ummmmmmm . . . . . yes.:hides:

TEXANS84
08-27-2006, 10:32 PM
2nd team d not looking so good against Cutler.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
No, but better than Lundy ....

But u did say our BEST RB reffering to Morency

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Holy smokes, Cutler

edo783
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Geeeezzz, is that Troy Palamoulo wearing #42?

Runner
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
It seems the only difference in this game or the stupid mistakes made by the Texans. The mistake by alfred to turn 3 points into 7, and to defensive aproachments to give the broncos a first down, and the countless false starts, one that took us out of a easy 4th down conversion that possible took away another 4 points..........mistakes, mistakes, mistakes. I think our team was too nervous playing their coaches old team.

Maybe. I hope so. This is a very good team we are playing - maybe they deserve some credit for our ineffectiveness?

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
I'm so glad the Titans didn't get Cutler.....

TEXANS84
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Seth Payne is getting manhandled against their 2nd team o-line.

Dime
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Who is number 51.. he has been missing plays the last 4.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
:spy: Who is this Jay Cutler guy...He looks pretty good :hides:

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
2nd team d not looking so good against Cutler.That's a downer!!! Booo get back up texans and fight.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Michael Stone looks to be playing the part of a back up Safety. Seems to be around the ball quite often.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
defense giving up?

No, it's just we have Troy Evans playing on defense instead of special teams.

EDIT: Polk not looking great either. We're getting torn up over the middle.

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Who is that dreadlock dude #42? He sucks.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
So Vernand Morency is better then Domanick Davis?

Head 2 Head in this offense, I would say so. Until DD can show what he can do it's Morency's job to lose. The guy is running hard, dropping his shoulder, not dancing in the hole, and has some speed.

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Who is that dreadlock dude #42? He sucks.
Stone.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Geeeezzz, is that Troy Palamoulo wearing #42?

Stone

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Man, our 2nd string LBs are sucking against the short pass offense of Denver.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Maybe. I hope so. This is a very good team we are playing - maybe they deserve some credit for our ineffectiveness?

I don't think so, those are just stupid mistakes that shouldn't be made no matter what team your playing. Our defense looks great though. I think the LB worries are overrated, but our secondary is shaky.

TEXANS84
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Who is that dreadlock dude #42? He sucks.
Mike Stone from the Pats.

TD Denver

Peldon
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Touchdown Broncos.

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
And our interior gets shredded by their backup RB. Very nice...

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Jay Cutler is the goods.

HOU fan02
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
WOW! :crying:

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
wow that really makes you appreciate what the first team d did out there lol

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Dude, not cool

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Polk fell, and Stone missed the tackle, Broncos TD.

AUSTexan
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Troy Evans.......................

mexican_texan
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
So Vernand Morency is better then Domanick Davis?
Vernand Morency is basically a clone, but I think his speed is a bit better.

Hutch13
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Urgh. TD Broncos.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:36 PM
We need an answer from the offense.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Cutler looks to be the real deal. Must be nice...

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:37 PM
We knew coming into this game that Denver had better depth then we do. This is the first year we have good depth, but this is like Denvers 8th.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Vernand Morency is basically a clone, but I think his speed is a bit better.

two completely different RB's

rittenhouserobz
08-27-2006, 10:37 PM
The Texans got to play a tough team tonight. I love that it is happening in the preseason. I don't know when DD comes back, but when he does I think the combination of DD and Morency is more than many teams can handle.

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Culter has looked good all preseason. I too am glad the Titans didn't get him. Now we just need to find someone to get David focused in the game sooner or our D better play like it did tonight.

I don't want to think of having to draft in the top 5 again.

AUSTexan
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
We knew coming into this game that Denver had better depth then we do. This is the first year we have good depth, but this is like Denvers 8th.

Yeah, that's certainly clear now...

Marcus
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
At first I did wonder about it. I've come to believe that the reason for this is that Morency IS the starter and Kubiak wanted to give Lundy some serious game time. Give Lundy the chance, give Morency some rest. :)

Ya know . . I think I'll start a "What do you think of this rumor" thread, just so everyone won't be so shocked if he is cut.

Runner
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
I don't think so, those are just stupid mistakes that shouldn't be made no matter what team your playing. Our defense looks great though. I think the LB worries are overrated, but our secondary is shaky.

Right - mental mistakes are mental mistakes. I meant our overall ineffectivenss in addition to those.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
But don't you think it's kinda weird that it was Lundy that played the entire first half, and Morency only came in the 2nd?

I dont think so. We have a year worth of film on Morency, a few games worth of Lundy. Sometimes we need to see what guys can do with the 1st team. With that said, I'd be in shock if Morency gets cut.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
This just shows you that our depth isn't quite there with quality teams. The Broncos don't lose much drop off in the running game no matter who they have out there. They've been running the zone for years, we've been running it for about 3 months.

texflex513
08-27-2006, 10:38 PM
Cutler looks to be the real deal. Must be nice...

I thought jay cutler was a pro body builder lol

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 10:39 PM
Look at it this way, if Capers and co. were still here it would be 31-3 Denver right now.

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:39 PM
This sucks

Jags&Dawgs
08-27-2006, 10:39 PM
Sorry to hear your down by 10-11 now :(

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:40 PM
Now you wont have to worry as much about the 4 days of Sage is better then Carr threads :crutch:

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:40 PM
This just shows you that our depth isn't quite there with quality teams. The Broncos don't lose much drop off in the running game no matter who they have out there. They've been running the zone for years, we've been running it for about 3 months.

We knew LB was our team weakness though. I'm hyped about how well the first team played.

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 10:40 PM
i'd rather a loss than a win tonight, it'll teach the rookies that no one goes undefeated ;)

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:40 PM
Joppru got handled on the block

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:41 PM
I dont personally think Morency is all he is cooked up to be...I mean comeon lg run 5 yards and hes hittin that 2nd string D...Comeon people better then DD? Maybe..Not yet though

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 10:41 PM
Now you wont have to worry as much about the 4 days of Sage is better then Carr threads :crutch:

No, the next one will be about how Sage hands the ball off more smoothly to the RBs.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:41 PM
i'd rather a loss than a win tonight, it'll teach the rookies that no one goes undefeated ;)

I was thinking that before the game started. Knock'em down a few pegs before the season starts.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
Morency blows a block to kill the drive.

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
i'd rather a loss than a win tonight, it'll teach the rookies that no one goes undefeated ;)


The win in preseason doesn't mean much its how you won or lost. How did your first team look. I'm only worried about Lundy picking up blocks, and David getting the ball out of his hand. Maybe it will just click and he will be the man...... Ok I can dream ...

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
The biggest movement on this drive... the 5 yard penalty.

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
Think Morency missed the block that got Sage leveled.

AUSTexan
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
who missed that block, Morency?

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:42 PM
Now you wont have to worry as much about the 4 days of Sage is better then Carr threads :crutch:

It has never been about Sage. Carr is measured against himself. And unfortunately he is still an incomplete. No on on this board can say that they have no doubt that we are strong at the QB position. We are spending 8 million on a QB to be a role player in my opinion.

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
missed assigment by Morency, is the difference between Lundy and Morency

dockoonce
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
No points yet from "Super Sage" the team savior?

Texas
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
This is startin to sicken me

sakebomb
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
I bet Sage knows who missed the block.

kingh99
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
Jay Cutler is the goods.

I'm so glad he fell to the Broncos. They've never had a legend at QB. This guy almost looks too good. We'll see. Lindsay Lohan err Rob Johnson once looked like the next coming of John Elway. I kid.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
The offense has a long way to go, its going to be a growing process all the way though the season and into next year..... Hopefully our defense will be strong and keep us in games.

TK_Gamer
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
up till today our backups have looked at least ok, not today however...

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:43 PM
No points yet from "Super Sage" the team savior?
Your missing your :stirpot:

mexican_texan
08-27-2006, 10:44 PM
two completely different RB's
Scouts, as well as aj. , have called VM a DD clone.

Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry
08-27-2006, 10:44 PM
No, the next one will be about how Sage hands the ball off more smoothly to the RBs.

Dont give anybody any ideas. Thay dont need any more fuel to add to there fire.

dockoonce
08-27-2006, 10:44 PM
LOL...my bad.

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 10:44 PM
I'm so glad he fell to the Broncos. They've never had a legend at QB. This guy almost looks too good. We'll see. Lindsay Lohan err Rob Johnson once looked like the next coming of John Elway. I


Yeah John Elway was just a scrub. Go Cutler..... :sos:

PapaL
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
score and time left, please?


4thQ 9:46

Hervoyel
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
Ok, I'm of the opinion that Denver is probably a little deeper than we are so I'm calling this game pretty much over and honestly, even if the Texans come back I'm not putting much stock in anything I see right now. The rest of this game is for coaches to watch, not me.

10-3 at the half with the offense only coming up with one drive. I can live with that. 10-6 after 3 was ok but they need work.

Peldon
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
score and time left, please?

17-6 9:30 in the 4th

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
17-6 bad guys. Clock's not on screen now, but I think it's 9-10 minutes left.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:45 PM
Scouts, as well as aj. , have called VM a DD clone.

Whoopty-do. Edit some tape and show me where their style, speed, blocking and toughness are clones.

Runner
08-27-2006, 10:46 PM
It has never been about Sage. Carr is measured against himself. And unfortunately he is still an incomplete. No on on this board can say that they have no doubt that we are strong at the QB position. We are spending 8 million on a QB to be a role player in my opinion.

Carr just said he has some little things to work on.

Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry
08-27-2006, 10:46 PM
score and time left, please?
9:46 4th bad guys 17 us 6

dockoonce
08-27-2006, 10:47 PM
Carr just said he has some little things to work on.

Agreed. Carr is just not used to standing up for so long. He has plenty of reasons to be nervous.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:47 PM
Nice off-the-block to stop a 3rd conversion by Cochran.

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:47 PM
Good sack by Cochran.

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 10:48 PM
I am not down on this one because its The Texans vs The broncos, Our first team kept the game close. We were one big play away throughout most of the game. Carr looked a little better rolling around.

The is room for improvement with the penalties, if clean that up then the score could have been a little tighter.

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 10:48 PM
i liked what i saw of the first teams. we're not supposed to win games vs. temas like this and we actually had a chance 1st team vs 1st team. i'll take that as long as we play weak teams just as tough (unlike last season)

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:48 PM
Why the hell is Anderson dancing around?

edo783
08-27-2006, 10:48 PM
Carr just said he has some little things to work on.

Well actually they are little things, but their pretty important....like getting the dang ball out of his hands quickly.

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 10:48 PM
Stone #42 has looked bad tonight. I think he gets cut.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:49 PM
Once Carr settled down he didn't look too bad. He needs to be able to come out in second quarter form though. That is one of my pet peeves with him, he always starts slow.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:49 PM
Anderson dancing reminded of a coach that used to his players, "now that you have shown everyone what you can't do. Now show me what you can do."

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:49 PM
I am not down on this one because its The Texans vs The broncos, Our first team kept the game close. We were one big play away throughout most of the game. Carr looked a little better rolling around.

The is room for improvement with the penalties, if clean that up then the score could have been a little tighter.


Not to mention, it ain't exactly over - still 8 minutes to play, we have the ball and need two scores.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:50 PM
Stone #42 has looked bad tonight. I think he gets cut.

I disagree. I think he has been in on a lot of action. There was no loss of intensity with him in, in my opinion.

mexican_texan
08-27-2006, 10:51 PM
Whoopty-do. Edit some tape and show me where their style, speed, blocking and toughness are clones.
Well, If I'm gonna edit the tape, I'd rather make Morency look like Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith than DD.

...but I'm guessing its just the body types since DD has more experience.

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 10:51 PM
Not to mention, it ain't exactly over - still 8 minutes to play, we have the ball and need two scores.

The game is over for the First team, if you want to see how much depth our team is, I can tell you there isnt a whole lot there. Just based on how easy it has been for teams to move the ball around in the second half all preseason.

skillz24
08-27-2006, 10:52 PM
thank god our defense looks sooo much improved compared to last year...minus one special teams goof...we held denvers first string to 6!!
major improvement

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:52 PM
1st down in Bronco territory.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:52 PM
I would of like to see more of Chris Taylor in this game, where is he...

Other then the first game he has been non existent.

Vinny
08-27-2006, 10:53 PM
I would of like to see more of Chris Taylor in this game, where is he...

Other then the first game he has been non existent.Kubiak said he was going to use two backs in this game like he wants to in the regular season.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:53 PM
5 minutes, 1st down at long FG range.

The Preacher
08-27-2006, 10:54 PM
i liked what i saw of the first teams. we're not supposed to win games vs. temas like this and we actually had a chance 1st team vs 1st team. i'll take that as long as we play weak teams just as tough (unlike last season)

Especially in Denver I'm sure folks there were somewhat shocked they didn't roll over us. Our D looks solid. Demeco is incredible and if Carr ever settles down and learns what poise is it could be a big season. Looks like a big if the offense was miserable. I'll chalk it up to a solid Denver D and cross my fingers.

dockoonce
08-27-2006, 10:54 PM
I am pretty happy overall with what I am seeing tonight. Having been a season ticket holder since the beginning, I had to see some of the most dismal games the team has played last year. At least now there is a glimmer of hope.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:54 PM
I though all those passes to RBs were supposed to go to TEs in this system....

I saw check downs to RBs for 4 years, I want to see TEs

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:55 PM
Time's becoming a problem. We've lost 1:30 in 3 plays.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:55 PM
You get the feeling that Kubiak is playing for 17-13

Doom Capers
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
So did Denver's scores come on our 1st or 2nd team D...special teams or what?
:hides:

Did MW do anything this game? I didn't see (read) his name mentioned much.
:mario: :mario: :mario:


Both on the first team. The td was off of an int that put them in scoring range. They were kicking a field goal and Malone had his helmet over the line giving them a first down. Then they scored. The D has looked very solid tonight.

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
It looks better then 17-6

Edit: Luchey is our Top Reciever....

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:57 PM
Both on the first team. The td was off of an int that put them in scoring range. They were kicking a field goal and Malone had his helmet over the line giving them a first down. Then they scored. The D has looked very solid tonight.

Though Malone isn't exactly 1st team, yes the 1st team unit was the one that got scored on.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
TD Sage-Lewis!

Peldon
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
Touchdown Lewis!!!

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
Finally, Sage to Lewis...TD!!!!!

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
Terrific route by Lewis

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
You get the feeling that Kubiak is playing for 17-13

Which isn't a problem one bit, this is one of those games where its alot better to lose it than win it.

Alot easier to get the player's attention and focused.

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
Woot go Texans!

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 10:58 PM
And the 2 point is ...


GOOD!

HOU fan02
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
Two point conversion upcoming, I would assume. (???)

texflex513
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
touchdown!!!!!

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
2 point goooooooooood!

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
Good and Bad
Good: we scored
Bad: now we have to endure more "sage should start" threads

Flexo
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
Nice play on the 2 point conversion.

Runner
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
2 points. We aren't giving up.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
Which isn't a problem one bit, this is one of those games where its alot better to lose it than win it.

Alot easier to get the player's attention and focused.

That is what I was saying. I felt he had the offense taking time off of the clock on a methodical drive.

Texans34Life
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
SAGE leading the offense!

Reddevil63
08-27-2006, 10:59 PM
woohoo, get the on-side kick so I can talk more trash to my dad!!!

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Morency gets in easy on the 2 point.
2:53 left. Might not onside at all.

Flexo
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Good and Bad
Good: we scored
Bad: now we have to endure more "sage should start" threads

You have to take the good with bad...

RiotCommander
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
We may not win this game, but we are giving them a run for their money in Mile High. =)))

texflex513
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Good and Bad
Good: we scored
Bad: now we have to endure more "sage should start" threads

:rofl:

Marcus
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
The game is over for the First team, if you want to see how much depth our team is, I can tell you there isnt a whole lot there. Just based on how easy it has been for teams to move the ball around in the second half all preseason.

Some of you sad sacks could a perspective injection. Look at how bad a football team we were last season. We had actually held our own against a pretty good football team out there. There is a big difference between now and then, if you'll just take the Carr Sucks glasses off.

Give them a little time. I know they aren't going 13-3 like Ibar is predicting, but geeez . . .

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
You have to take the good with bad...
All too true

Doom Capers
08-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Good and Bad
Good: we scored
Bad: now we have to endure more "sage should start" threads


yeah, which is why i don't read any threads with the words "carr, qb, sage, or sack"

Hervoyel
08-27-2006, 11:01 PM
Good and Bad
Good: we scored
Bad: now we have to endure more "sage should start" threads

I haven't posted once on one of those threads but I think it's entirely understandable that we'll get them. Regardless of who he's playing against Sage looks about ten thousand times more comfortable playing in this offense than David does.

I for one hope that changes pretty soon. I expect it to. If it doesn't once the regular season starts I'm all for giving it as much time as we realistically can and then giving the backup a shot.

Hervoyel
08-27-2006, 11:01 PM
Anyone wonder if Derrick Lewis makes the team? I'm almost thinking yeah, why not.

Flexo
08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
We seriously could have won this game if it wasn't for that penalty that turned the field goal into a touchdown...

GrandPa
08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
I think we could win more than 4 games if Sage is our starting quarterback.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
Normal kick, Broncs incomplete pass first play, 2:39 left.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
Stone missed a tackle.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
3rd n short. 2:29 ... need a stop. One timeout left, I think.

dockoonce
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
I agree. Plus...If I am not mistaken, we have a better preseason then Caper's new home.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
That'll eat up the clock

RTP2110
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
Denver beats Tenessee 35-10 and we hang tough with them 17-14 I'll take that in the preseason.

Kaiser Toro
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
Anyone wonder if Derrick Lewis makes the team? I'm almost thinking yeah, why not.

I think we carry 4 WR's. Why carry more with Mathis potentially on the PUP?

tulexan
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
Tackles, Sacks, or Hurries...for MW?
Info please.
:mario: :mario: :mario: :mario:


Mario had 2 tackles. Doubling his performance every week. By week 5 he should get around 128 tackles in that game.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:04 PM
I think we got the stop!

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 11:04 PM
Some of you sad sacks could a perspective injection. Look at how bad a football team we were last season. We had actually held our own against a pretty good football team out there. There is a big difference between now and then, if you'll just take the Carr Sucks glasses off.

Give them a little time. I know they aren't going 13-3 like Ibar is predicting, but geeez . . .

I have the Texans going 7 wins this season. Of course, I would love it if they get 8. Anyhow, I know this team is leaps and bounds better this year. And I would never expect a 13-3 season but I love the direction they are headed.

rmartin65
08-27-2006, 11:04 PM
Anyone wonder if Derrick Lewis makes the team? I'm almost thinking yeah, why not.
He should make it, he has looked pretty good.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 11:05 PM
Shanny should go for it and prevent overtime

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:05 PM
4th and inches, we're in field goal range if they fail. Out of time outs.

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 11:05 PM
I think there is OT in preseason.

Mysteryhunt
08-27-2006, 11:05 PM
I have the Texans going 7 wins this season. Of course, I would love it if they get 8. Anyhow, I know this team is leaps and bounds better this year. And I would never expect a 13-3 season but I love the direction they are headed.

7 sounds pretty reasonable to me from what ive seen in the preseason, i think a titans sweep should be a lock, they look to be a mess.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:06 PM
Ugh. 1st down.

Doom Capers
08-27-2006, 11:06 PM
I am starting the chant sage for quarterback!! :redtowel:


totally, he has looked AWESOME against their 2nd string!

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Anyone wonder if Derrick Lewis makes the team? I'm almost thinking yeah, why not.

I think Anderson makes it over him, but its a toss up to me.

Flexo
08-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Game over. Texans lose 17-14 in a hard fought game. I'll take it...

TexanExile
08-27-2006, 11:07 PM
ouch....lost the containment on 4th down....nice Kristi Yamaguchi-style skate/tackle by Stone.

HOU fan02
08-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Well, with that first down it looks like a win is out of sight, but what a valliant effort today against a very good team.

Sarg01
08-27-2006, 11:08 PM
1 run and 2 kneels will end it.

Hervoyel
08-27-2006, 11:08 PM
No big deal. It was nice to see the Texans play (on defense) like they care. This entire preseason has been like that. Last year I just couldn't get behind them while they went through the motions "zombie style" in Capers/Pendrys/Fangios system(s). This year it looks like I'll be following an actual "live" football team for a change. I'm good with that.

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 11:08 PM
I am starting the chant sage for quarterback!! :redtowel:
He's had good and bad plays too :rolleyes:

mexican_texan
08-27-2006, 11:08 PM
I think there is OT in preseason.
I think not.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 11:08 PM
14-17 isn't bad at all, our defense as a whole was good, but the secondary need to improve. The only thing that worried me was Dunta Robinson, he gave up alot of good plays, I hope he gets better, I would hate to think we saw the best of him in 2004.

veazeyt
08-27-2006, 11:09 PM
I think not.

Oops, I meant to say there is no OT in preseason. You're right!

texflex513
08-27-2006, 11:10 PM
good game fellas

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 11:13 PM
:locked:

TexanExile
08-27-2006, 11:13 PM
I've said this elsewhere too: Sage Rosenfels failed to beat out Jay Fiedler, AJ Feeley, and Gus Frerotte for starting jobs...and all of those guys are now backups. Sage spent more time as #3 QB than he ever did at #2 in Miami for a reason. Yes, he may be better this year, but he is not a starting NFL QB.

Like it or not, Carr is our guy.

Peldon
08-27-2006, 11:14 PM
Now we can deal with the media saying we were beaten badly and the trolls from other teams saying how easily they will beat us.

Marcus
08-27-2006, 11:14 PM
I am starting the chant sage for quarterback!! :redtowel:

Go ahead. Let's see if the moderators do a better job with their 'merging skills' this week.:dancing:

Buffi2
08-27-2006, 11:16 PM
For the most part, the Texans did a good job tonight and I'll take this 3 point loss - under the previous regime it would have been a 30 point loss.

They played like a real NFL team...after Carr got it together...they never lost their enthusiasm...they played with heart..we didn't see that last year.

The defense is quite good and should only get better. Following that same positive thought - the offense should get better also - it won't take much...stop all of those penalties - or even half of them would help immensely.

I don't think we will win 13 games - but I think that at long last we will be a fun team to watch and we should be able to hold our own against most teams. I do believe the days of losing in the last 30 seconds or losing by a landslide are gone. I'll take 7 or 8 wins for this year and be happy.

Carr Bombed
08-27-2006, 11:16 PM
I know generally starters hardly play the 4th game, but if I was Kubiak, I'd use that and try to get my team more accustomed to this offense and for god sakes, throw to some TEs, I'm tired of seeing the RB dump off.

rittenhouserobz
08-27-2006, 11:16 PM
The Texans gained more from this than Denver did. That is all that should really matter. I love wins, but a preseaon win against a below average team does not give the same measurement as playing an above average team like Denver is. Now we can truly see where we need to improve. This game was the closest to a regular season game and I hope the texans staff extracts all the right information from it.

OzzO
08-27-2006, 11:17 PM
Now we can deal with the media saying we were beaten badly and the trolls from other teams saying how easily they will beat us.

Hmmm... "troll" threads or "only game opinon is carr sucks / sage rocks" threads.

Thanks goodness there's a Thursday game coming up so it'll be short. Get them in while you can.

Mr. Old School
08-27-2006, 11:22 PM
Although the Texans are not about to switch QB's, Rosenfels looks very good. DC still seems to be in a rookie mode..uneasy, and still very much learning ahead. Geeeeez!

Brandon420tx
08-27-2006, 11:23 PM
Geez guys, theres already threads for this stuff, Lets keep this pure!:tomato:

thunderkyss
08-27-2006, 11:30 PM
What we need to do, is get Lewis, & Anderson in with the first team.

obviously those guys we're starting are not getting open downfield....... then when we do air it out to them, they fail to catch a perfectly thrown pass..

bigtex77
08-27-2006, 11:30 PM
I think there is OT in preseason


I think not.


I'm pretty sure there is, unless the rules have changed from last year. I'm almost positive the Niners and Titans went into OT last preseason.

thunderkyss
08-27-2006, 11:33 PM
However, Denver avgs 25 points a game....... we held them to 17...... we also gave up only 10 points to the first team on predominately short fields.

Looks like our Defense is going to keep us in a lot of games....... as long as we keep it close, and put Sage in the second half, we should do well.

fastpitchwoof
08-27-2006, 11:35 PM
I like what I saw. The defense played very well and kept us in it. The offense came around. Look, this is a new offense and it will take time for it to become good. It showed flashes tonight. I too, don't like to see all of the RB dump off passes. Not very exciting. But dang it just kept moving the chains. Then it began to open up a little deeper. When the RBs are getting 5 yrds / play on dump offs the defense has to come get 'em. Then the rest of the field opens up. What was it an 18 play drive and if Kubes had let Carr take one shot at the end zone we may have got 7. It was a frutrating ball control drive that gets the ball to playmakers and lets them use their skills. Was it overwhelming?? No, but it was effective.

I do not believe that the complete offense is "in." When you are going from a vanilla offense under Pendry/Capers to a sophisticated offense under Kubes and Sherman it is not going to happen in 3 preseason games. I do expect that by mid year the offense will be pretty good and only get better next year

Be patient people. It is night and day compared to last year. I can live with this taking a little while because I can see the whole attitude and approach has changed.

Smash_Mouth_Mario
08-27-2006, 11:43 PM
Stupid penalties are killing us.

Yep. It should have been tied for OT! :)

Ibar_Harry
08-27-2006, 11:46 PM
Yep. It should have been tied for OT! :)

Actually if you take away the touchdown after the penalty on the successful field goal try, I think we would have won by 1 point. There were some bad things, but there were good things. We just need to get rolling sooner. We had Lundy in for a long time and things began to click again when Morency went into the game.

whiskeyrbl
08-27-2006, 11:47 PM
I was impressed in the fact that Denver scored(TD), only after a BS penalty,and a FG after an INT at our 20.The Defense looks pretty solid besides a couple of blown coverages. Our offense on the other hand needs to get off to quicker starts. Overall I would grade our effort as a B-. Not bad considering Denver was our opp. Should have won but learn from mistakes and correct them. Way to go Demeco! Gonna be a beast.

WILLIEG
08-28-2006, 12:15 AM
Babin looked really well for the amount of time he was in the game.

BlueThunder
08-28-2006, 12:15 AM
:cowboy1:

thunderkyss
08-28-2006, 12:31 AM
]']Vinny and the rest of the Carr haters looked funny. Carr has more yards than Jake with fewer attempts.

Hate is too much boys, least wait till mid season. Lets Tar and feather Carr then...

Did you see that one play, where Jake fell down??

never stopped looking upfield, he got back up, and flicked the ball down field. How many yards was that play for??

That play right there probably squashed any QB controversy that might be brewing in Denver.

If Kubiak can do that with Carr......... I might (might) be happy with a JakePlummer clone.

but first, he's got to get him looking downfield.

Jags&Dawgs
08-28-2006, 12:31 AM
Final score was?

Peldon
08-28-2006, 12:33 AM
Final score was?

17-14 Broncos

Jags&Dawgs
08-28-2006, 12:34 AM
Sorry that you guys lost but you battled a tough team.

mexican_texan
08-28-2006, 12:52 AM
Now that we got losing out of our systems, let's go back to winning. (Feels wierd saying that...) Denver is a legitamite Super Bowl contender and we did well keeping the game close(when Sage was in...) Altogether, it was a good night for both teams, and though we may not have won, the players now have tape to look at to see why they were unsuccessful and should work at it.

I don't like Wiegart at RT. I'd rather have Winston or move the line around to include Weary.

Brandon420tx
08-28-2006, 01:03 AM
Sorry that you guys lost but you battled a tough team.
We did very well on Defense, alot of us are really happy.

WILLIEG
08-28-2006, 01:37 AM
Now that we got losing out of our systems, let's go back to winning. (Feels wierd saying that...) Denver is a legitamite Super Bowl contender and we did well keeping the game close(when Sage was in...) Altogether, it was a good night for both teams, and though we may not have won, the players now have tape to look at to see why they were unsuccessful and should work at it.

I don't like Wiegart at RT. I'd rather have Winston or move the line around to include Weary.
You couldn't be more right!

Napa Auto Parts
08-28-2006, 01:43 AM
Sage made a valiant effort to put is back in the game i respect the fact that he got a touchdown.

powerfuldragon
08-28-2006, 09:30 AM
Why does carr always start the game like a scared child but end up playing decently? why can't he just be good? I really want to like the guy. He makes it hard sometimes.