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TexanSam
08-25-2006, 11:14 PM
Has Kubiak said? I figure it would be Morency because of his performance last week, but Lundy hasn't exactly been a scrub.

texflex513
08-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Has Kubiak said? I figure it would be Morency because of his performance last week, but Lundy hasn't exactly been a scrub.

I think the edge goes to morency because of blitz pickup... They both seem to be even as far as how good they have ran the ball.. I think maybe lundy will get the start and morency will follow shortly thereafter.

Vinny
08-25-2006, 11:38 PM
Kubiak said that Morency and Lundy will split carries just like they will on opening day. Go to the front page and it's in todays practice notes and stuff

GP
08-25-2006, 11:43 PM
Does anyone else feel uneasy about this game?

I mean, it's like Kubiak is facing his dad or something. I had a dream last night that we got drilled 102-3 and Shanahan was laughing and pointing his finger at Kubiak, "YOU'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS ME! NEVER!!!!!!!! ha-ha-ha!"

Our guys were crying. Kubiak ran off the field and caught a cab to Kyle Field where he hid out in the maintenance room of the stadium. A janitor found him the next day, and Kubiak changed his name to Bob Lumpkus so he could be a littl-known and almost anonymous special teams coach for the Aggies. Slowly pieced his life back together and then re-appeared at Reliant a few months later to thunderous applause by the fans. Disney Films inked a deal to do a movie about it, starring Kevin Bacon with a bad flat-top haircut as Gary Kubiak.

Sorry........I need to get some sleep.

texflex513
08-25-2006, 11:43 PM
Has Chris Taylor fallin out of the mix i had heard so much about him in training camp... Whats the scoop? I hope he makes the team.

texflex513
08-25-2006, 11:46 PM
Does anyone else feel uneasy about this game?

I mean, it's like Kubiak is facing his dad or something. I had a dream last night that we got drilled 102-3 and Shanahan was laughing and pointing his finger at Kubiak, "YOU'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS ME! NEVER!!!!!!!! ha-ha-ha!"

Our guys were crying. Kubiak ran off the field and caught a cab to Kyle Field where he hid out in the maintenance room of the stadium. A janitor found him the next day, and Kubiak changed his name to Bob Lumpkus so he could be a littl-known and almost anonymous special teams coach for the Aggies. Slowly pieced his life back together and then re-appeared at Reliant a few months later to thunderous applause by the fans. Disney Films inked a deal to do a movie about it, starring Kevin Bacon with a bad flat-top haircut as Gary Kubiak.

Sorry........I need to get some sleep.

:goodnight Need something to help you sleep five punch combo?? tiger uppercut?? shoryuken??

BlueThunder
08-26-2006, 05:22 AM
Morancy is fighting for a roster spot right now. I wouldn't play him more then 10 carries a game because of his size but theres going to be a few good runners let go soon.I really think Morancy (C.Taylor or A.Smith) W.Lundy.Then we could always carry a few backs on roster exemptions.We still have D.Davis in the picture somewhere.:howdy:

Wali Lundy I think should start and have atleast 10 carries in a roll then the #2 TB should get 10 straight .Then rotate them both thru the 3rd 1/4..Winner gets the #1 starting spot.Thats how I would do it.Morancy I just don;'t see as an every down back.If you plan to use him as a roll player all year to expand the play book then he may develope and stay fresh all season.

From the looks of it Wali Lundy has earned the starting spot for this game!

TheOgre
08-26-2006, 07:06 AM
From the looks of it Wali Lundy has earned the starting spot for this game!

You must be watching different footage than me. Lundy is a huge liability on passing downs. Morency will be the starter on opening day if Davis isn't ready to go.

Hulk75
08-26-2006, 08:42 AM
You must be watching different footage than me. Lundy is a huge liability on passing downs. Morency will be the starter on opening day if Davis isn't ready to go.
Lets not start labeling him and such, maybe he just needs work on his pass blocking skills.

I think Lundy does get the start. But they will share time.

Malloy
08-26-2006, 09:07 AM
Does anyone else feel uneasy about this game?

I mean, it's like Kubiak is facing his dad or something. I had a dream last night that we got drilled 102-3 and Shanahan was laughing and pointing his finger at Kubiak, "YOU'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS ME! NEVER!!!!!!!! ha-ha-ha!"

Our guys were crying. Kubiak ran off the field and caught a cab to Kyle Field where he hid out in the maintenance room of the stadium. A janitor found him the next day, and Kubiak changed his name to Bob Lumpkus so he could be a littl-known and almost anonymous special teams coach for the Aggies. Slowly pieced his life back together and then re-appeared at Reliant a few months later to thunderous applause by the fans. Disney Films inked a deal to do a movie about it, starring Kevin Bacon with a bad flat-top haircut as Gary Kubiak.

Sorry........I need to get some sleep.

GP I hate you, now I have to clean up all the coffee I spat out all over the table, keyboard AND screen!! :)

bigTEXan8
08-26-2006, 10:54 AM
First off...that was solid gp.

OK...secondly, I really hate living in CA because I never get to see any of the Texans games. Too poor to afford NFL Sunday Ticket. I keep hearing about Lundy, but I remember Morency being such a stand-up stud towards the end of last year when DD was hurt. I think Morency will start, but it will be a real even split between him and Lundy.

TexanSam
08-26-2006, 12:00 PM
Morancy is fighting for a roster spot right now. I wouldn't play him more then 10 carries a game because of his size but theres going to be a few good runners let go soon.I really think Morancy (C.Taylor or A.Smith) W.Lundy.Then we could always carry a few backs on roster exemptions.We still have D.Davis in the picture somewhere.:howdy:


I think Morency is almost a guarantee to make the team. I believe he'll be the main man with Lundy as his backup. Just because he's small (5'9") doesn't mean he can't carry the load. Unless you mean only 10 carries on Sunday. Then there I agree with you.

Vinny
08-26-2006, 12:18 PM
I think Morency is almost a guarantee to make the team. I believe he'll be the main man with Lundy as his backup. Just because he's small (5'9") doesn't mean he can't carry the load. Unless you mean only 10 carries on Sunday. Then there I agree with you.He's more short than small...he is about the same size as ex-Bronco great Terrell Davis.

TK_Gamer
08-26-2006, 12:21 PM
yeah I dont get the size remark at all, since when did size matter to a RB? 75% of all RB's are under 5' 11" so you mean to tell me that 1 or 2 inches in height should decide the starter? they arent widereceivers or tightends. they dont have to win jumpballs on pass plays, they primarily run underneath routes in passing downs where hieght doesnt matter. and there size when running actually makes them harder to tackle. now if yer not tough enough thats a whole nother story. but I think morency and lundy are both tough.
I think Morency is slightly ahead of lundy in the race. he's faster, he catches better, and he blocks better. Lundy hits the holes quicker. I think kubiak prolly told Lundy his blocking needs to improve and will give him plenty of snaps to show how he's done. I think morency will start since carr dint get many snaps last week with morency in there. then they give lundy the bulk of the 2nd half with some time to the others.

threetoedpete
08-26-2006, 01:57 PM
You must be watching different footage than me. Lundy is a huge liability on passing downs. Morency will be the starter on opening day if Davis isn't ready to go.
Agreed: I dunno where the anti Morency stuff got started. Maybe it's the function of the DC hate thing. I don't know. No one has given the guy his due yet. Just becuse he was a third round pick doesn't meen he can't be a great back in this system. He was a good back behind an inferior line at OSU. You can look up his numbers if you want. He's a hardnosed guy who deserves his shot. The game footage I've seen so far leads me to believe that Morency...for a fact..can block on a blitz pick up. He is more than just a functional RB. You may want to stow the VM is on the bubble talk. I'm all for pulling for the rooks and all. But in this case...VM, unless he gets hurt Sunday, is your day one starter.
I dunno and I'm not in the loop, but my hunch is, they're not going to have to worry about DD untill mid October. That's what I'm reading between the lines about the knee.

TK_Gamer
08-26-2006, 02:12 PM
Agreed: I dunno where the anti Morency stuff got started. Maybe it's the function of the DC hate thing. I don't know. No one has given the guy his due yet. Just becuse he was a third round pick doesn't meen he can't be a great back in this system. He was a good back behind an inferior line at OSU. You can look up his numbers if you want. He's a hardnosed guy who deserves his shot. The game footage I've seen so far leads me to believe that Morency...for a fact..can block on a blitz pick up. He is more than just a functional RB. You may want to stow the VM is on the bubble talk. I'm all for pulling for the rooks and all. But in this case...VM, unless he gets hurt Sunday, is your day one starter.
I dunno and I'm not in the loop, but my hunch is, they're not going to have to worry about DD untill mid October. That's what I'm reading between the lines about the knee.

I dont know about anyone else, but my reading between the lines on DD doesnt paint a pretty picture. I think the doc released DD but DD did not release himself. I think he's thinking long term and doesnt wanna throw his career away comming back before he's truly 100 % . The problem is as I see it, he may never be the 100 % he's hoping for and he needs to learn to play with some pain and then deal with the swelling. wich means he would never be a true starter, but rather share the starting spot with say morency when he has to sit out a game for swelling reasons. sometimes injuries heal but the pain and swelling doesnt just go away.

threetoedpete
08-26-2006, 02:18 PM
Has Chris Taylor fallin out of the mix i had heard so much about him in training camp... Whats the scoop? I hope he makes the team.
Lundy, Taylor and even Rhodes are very tallented rookies with high cellings.
But the key word in all of that is rookies. There's not a high learning curve at RB. But it's there. You want to go thourgh a couple of QBs the first month of the season, stick a rookie in there who isn't sure of what he's doing. Lawernce Phillips got Steve Young. NFL coach is gong to see the big picture and error on the side of caution. You're going to see the rooks. They'll get their reps. But wouldn't surpise me, unless there's an injury, Coach K dosen't ease them into it the first three games. Also wouldn't surprise me if Lundy (or Taylor) dosen't pass VM by the bye. They are very explosive, no doubt. It's a good thing. We're covered at RB, with or without DD.

kapman
08-26-2006, 07:26 PM
Let me preface this remark by saying that I am a Vernand Morency fan...

However, a reliable source tells me that his roster spot is in serious peril. It seems that this coaching staff believes that they can get any back to fit into their system.

Wali Lundy will be the starter on tomorrow night and opening day. Expect that Antwain Smith and Vernand Morency to be put on waivers. DD will be placed on either IR or PUP and Chris Taylor, if he doesnt get put on the practice squad (which I doubt seriously) will be on the roster along with a RB added via another team.

I am forced to agree that each coach deserves to own his philosophy about his team but I think the potential downfall to Kubiak is the believe that players ought to fit his system as opposed to crafting his system to fit his players.

My understanding is that Morency will play with the 2nd team and be showcased next week. This is a business and the business side of the Texans right now is represented in two distinct ways...purging the team of Casserly's moves and finding Kubiak's kind of players for the future.

It is felt by Morency's age and his contract (he is only there for one more year on his rookie contract) that he is not the future of the Texans.

I would love to be wrong, as I stated, I am probably the biggest Morency fan around however, my source is extremely reliable.

RiotCommander
08-26-2006, 07:28 PM
Let me preface this remark by saying that I am a Vernand Morency fan...

However, a reliable source tells me that his roster spot is in serious peril. It seems that this coaching staff believes that they can get any back to fit into their system.

Wali Lundy will be the starter on tomorrow night and opening day. Expect that Antwain Smith and Vernand Morency to be put on waivers. DD will be placed on either IR or PUP and Chris Taylor, if he doesnt get put on the practice squad (which I doubt seriously) will be on the roster along with a RB added via another team.

I am forced to agree that each coach deserves to own his philosophy about his team but I think the potential downfall to Kubiak is the believe that players ought to fit his system as opposed to crafting his system to fit his players.

My understanding is that Morency will play with the 2nd team and be showcased next week. This is a business and the business side of the Texans right now is represented in two distinct ways...purging the team of Casserly's moves and finding Kubiak's kind of players for the future.

It is felt by Morency's age and his contract (he is only there for one more year on his rookie contract) that he is not the future of the Texans.

I would love to be wrong, as I stated, I am probably the biggest Morency fan around however, my source is extremely reliable.


I hope we can trade him for something if we do deal him. Also I hope Lundy is able to pick up blocks or we are making a mistake dealing Morency.

Marcus
08-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Let me preface this remark by saying that I am a Vernand Morency fan...

However, a reliable source tells me that his roster spot is in serious peril. It seems that this coaching staff believes that they can get any back to fit into their system.

Wali Lundy will be the starter on tomorrow night and opening day. Expect that Antwain Smith and Vernand Morency to be put on waivers. DD will be placed on either IR or PUP and Chris Taylor, if he doesnt get put on the practice squad (which I doubt seriously) will be on the roster along with a RB added via another team.

I am forced to agree that each coach deserves to own his philosophy about his team but I think the potential downfall to Kubiak is the believe that players ought to fit his system as opposed to crafting his system to fit his players.

My understanding is that Morency will play with the 2nd team and be showcased next week. This is a business and the business side of the Texans right now is represented in two distinct ways...purging the team of Casserly's moves and finding Kubiak's kind of players for the future.

It is felt by Morency's age and his contract (he is only there for one more year on his rookie contract) that he is not the future of the Texans.

I would love to be wrong, as I stated, I am probably the biggest Morency fan around however, my source is extremely reliable.

I can see DD going on PUP list, but the Morency thing surprises me. But, if indeed Morency does play with the 2nd team in Denver, and plays a lot next week like you say, well . . .

Kubiak And Smith must have their eye on some RBs they think aren't going to make their squads. We'll see.

Chris Taylor MVP
08-26-2006, 09:56 PM
Chris Taylor is capable of starting for the Texans. Though he probably won't start this game, he is very,very capable of scoring touchdowns whether he's playing on special teams or in the backfield. Give him the time Morency, Lundy or any of the other backs get and he will top them. Give Chris the ball and watch him score!



Lundy, Taylor and even Rhodes are very tallented rookies with high cellings.
But the key word in all of that is rookies. There's not a high learning curve at RB. But it's there. You want to go thourgh a couple of QBs the first month of the season, stick a rookie in there who isn't sure of what he's doing. Lawernce Phillips got Steve Young. NFL coach is gong to see the big picture and error on the side of caution. You're going to see the rooks. They'll get their reps. But wouldn't surpise me, unless there's an injury, Coach K dosen't ease them into it the first three games. Also wouldn't surprise me if Lundy (or Taylor) dosen't pass VM by the bye. They are very explosive, no doubt. It's a good thing. We're covered at RB, with or without DD.

Ryan
08-26-2006, 10:19 PM
Does anyone else feel uneasy about this game?

I mean, it's like Kubiak is facing his dad or something. I had a dream last night that we got drilled 102-3 and Shanahan was laughing and pointing his finger at Kubiak, "YOU'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS ME! NEVER!!!!!!!! ha-ha-ha!"

Our guys were crying. Kubiak ran off the field and caught a cab to Kyle Field where he hid out in the maintenance room of the stadium. A janitor found him the next day, and Kubiak changed his name to Bob Lumpkus so he could be a littl-known and almost anonymous special teams coach for the Aggies. Slowly pieced his life back together and then re-appeared at Reliant a few months later to thunderous applause by the fans. Disney Films inked a deal to do a movie about it, starring Kevin Bacon with a bad flat-top haircut as Gary Kubiak.

Sorry........I need to get some sleep.


wow..you really do need rest..even though i think you made that up as you went along:fireball: :bowser:

Ryan
08-26-2006, 10:20 PM
and i really hope morency gets the edge this season just because i like him and hes on my fantasy team

bayoudreamn
08-27-2006, 09:00 AM
and i really hope morency gets the edge this season just because i like him and hes on my fantasy team

Great article from the Texans main page about morency:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2782

The first half of it provides good insight into how Kubiak works. Nothing really new but several things from here and there consolidated in one place. Several comments made me think of things posted on this MB about how players should defy their coaches....Kubiak seems to disagree with that. If a player on this team disagrees with the coach and takes matters into his own hands, expect him to sit down and stay there.

Good quote from Barry Sanders! Excellent advice about setting priorities given to a young player in the early years of his career. Very classy thing for a Hall of Famer to do! Guess there's no BS and Barry Sanders :rolleyes:

Excellent information about Morency studying film....looks like the guy gets it!

Marcus
08-27-2006, 11:41 PM
Let me preface this remark by saying that I am a Vernand Morency fan...

However, a reliable source tells me that his roster spot is in serious peril. It seems that this coaching staff believes that they can get any back to fit into their system.

Wali Lundy will be the starter on tomorrow night and opening day. Expect that Antwain Smith and Vernand Morency to be put on waivers. DD will be placed on either IR or PUP and Chris Taylor, if he doesnt get put on the practice squad (which I doubt seriously) will be on the roster along with a RB added via another team.

I am forced to agree that each coach deserves to own his philosophy about his team but I think the potential downfall to Kubiak is the believe that players ought to fit his system as opposed to crafting his system to fit his players.

My understanding is that Morency will play with the 2nd team and be showcased next week. This is a business and the business side of the Texans right now is represented in two distinct ways...purging the team of Casserly's moves and finding Kubiak's kind of players for the future.

It is felt by Morency's age and his contract (he is only there for one more year on his rookie contract) that he is not the future of the Texans.

I would love to be wrong, as I stated, I am probably the biggest Morency fan around however, my source is extremely reliable.

Well, I would have to say that the fact Lundy played the entire 1st half tonight without Morency coming into the game until the 2nd half . . . I gotta admit it has me wondering.