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veazeyt
08-22-2006, 02:10 AM
I dont know if this has been posted yet, but was curious and have some input.

"I liked the way he got the ball downhill, which is something weve been preaching to him. Also, one of the things I was impressed with was that he struggled with pass protection in camp and understanding schemes, understanding protections and blocking schemes. Hes had some mistakes, he was mistake-free in that department in the game."
- My new father, Kubiak

I am speculating that Kubiak likes Lundy more than Morency but is open to changing his mind based on VM's performance.

What I think is going on:

Lundy in practice, has been able to pick up the blitzes better, as far as going out there and putting the hit on a guy. Obviously, his blocking skills are not to par.

Morency in practice has not been has keen on picking up the right blocks. Obviously, we know that he can make big blocks.

In conclusion, because Morency had "a mistake free game", Morency could soon find himself as the starter.

HJam72
08-22-2006, 04:39 AM
With DD hurt, Morency IS the starter. DD comes back, eh, Morency might still be the starter.

Bullpen Drew
08-22-2006, 07:50 AM
Both these guys should be named Thunder and Lightning..

I like Morency because he runs straight up the middle, doesn't dance and gets yards...

AFD1717
08-22-2006, 08:36 AM
I like Morency because he runs straight up the middle, doesn't dance and gets yards...
I never thought I'd hear that.

(Strangley, I agree.)

HJam72
08-22-2006, 08:38 AM
I Like Morency because he runs straight up the middle, doesn't dance and gets yards...

High praise for Gary Kubiak!!! :yahoo:

real
08-22-2006, 08:39 AM
With DD hurt, Morency IS the starter. DD comes back, eh, Morency might still be the starter.

DD won't be the starter...IF he comes back....

Texas_Thrill
08-22-2006, 08:40 AM
Gotta love Kubiak for getting his POINT across to this kid. GRADE A COACHING JOB THERE.

Texans Horror
08-22-2006, 10:40 AM
DD won't be the starter...IF he comes back....

I'm starting to wonder the same. Of course, Morency and Lundi are looking good in pre-season games. Davis has looked good in regular season games. They did a great job of recoaching Morency. I was really impressed with the show he gave Saturday. From what I see, I could not make the decision of who to start. Stat-wise, they are very similar. Morency has the experience, so he seems the likely candidate, but I could go either way. It's also good to see fresh blood in the offense...

MYDAUGHTER'STEXANS
08-22-2006, 10:57 AM
I think Gary likes Wali a little more, just due to his straight ahead running and less dancing like Morencey, but they are both great backs, I also like Chris Taylor as well, it's great having mutiple talented backs, thank God for Gary Kubiak and the new system.....:bananasplit:

Vinny
08-22-2006, 11:06 AM
The thing I like about Morency is his high end ability to make defenders hesitate in space with is explosive change of direction skills. I think he has grasped the concept of using his ability at the second level and run the play as designed till he gets there. You can't get on Sports Center if you can't get to the second level anyway, so you may as well listen to the coaches.

In the future I'd love to see Morency start and Dom Davis come in as the 3rd down back or obvious passing situation back. This would limit his carries and would extend his career. Lundy is the Gary Brown of the backs.

Chance_C
08-22-2006, 11:09 AM
I'm going with Morency. It's his job to lose (they will both get plenty of carries IMO), but he will be in there more because of his pass protection. Assuming that the St Louis game is more indicative of his pass protection than the supposed problems he has had in camp with it. On his first TD run, I was impressed with how he lowered his head and powered his way in. I became a much bigger Morency fan after that game.

real
08-22-2006, 11:32 AM
I'd have to go with Morency....I loved everything he did from his blocking, to his hard nose running, his moves in the open field, and driving that LB into the endzone...he looked like he wanted it...bad....IMO, he is the best all around back that we have this season...even if DD comes back....DD pass protection is marginal at best, and he isn't the head and shoulders better runner...the only advantage he has is his pass catching, which IMO is overrated...

Hervoyel
08-22-2006, 11:34 AM
Lundy is the Gary Brown of the backs.

Ok, just curious but in what way do you mean that? I can think of several different comparisons some positive, others less so.

When I think of Gary Brown I think of a rumbling bowling ball of a running back who hit the hole hard but didn't break away from anyone (very often). Good positive yardage most of the time and very humble/likeable player. Then I also think he seemed destined for a bright future but never really played anywhere where he got enough carries to get much past 1000 yards.

His busiest year he had 253 carries and averaged 3.7 a carry. It kind of seemed like that was around his ceiling. Looking back at Gary I don't know if he never got more carries because he wasn't that productive or if he wasn't that productive because he never got more carries.

rafterticket
08-22-2006, 11:40 AM
Both these guys should be named Thunder and Lightning.

How about Shake and Bake?

I hope Lundy works out his blocking problems. With that fixed, throw either one of them in there. They both run well, and their speed is similar, unless I am mistaken.

Vinny
08-22-2006, 11:41 AM
Hey Herv,

Brown is the guy I was thinking about when I was watching Lundy run Saturday night. He seems to have good balance, a good feel for body language, is big and strong, but not so big he can't get his quick feet moving (Lundy has those quick feet Wells was missing). Brown had some good years and was a great reserve but as a starter you felt like you could do better.

RiotCommander
08-22-2006, 11:49 AM
This is the first year that I don't think I have really cared who we start at RB. I know I have bashed Lundy for his blitz pickup, but according to Kubs Morency was having problems with it in camp. So he (Lundy) can learn. I would like to see what DD looks like with this new line and blocking system, but it could be awhile.

Chance_C
08-22-2006, 11:51 AM
Ok my memory of the particular year is hazy but I remember wanting Gary Brown to get more carries (I remember him being very physical) and then when he got his oppurtunity didn't he get hurt?

gtexan02
08-22-2006, 12:14 PM
I didn't get to see the game, only the stat sheet, but from what I saw, both looked like they played very well. Of course, you can't see blitz pick-ups or misses in the stat sheets, but I think I've heard enough on the boards to know that Morency did well, and Lundy missed at least one and maybe more.

As a grad student at UVa, i hear a lot about Lundy. He was extremely well liked here, and was a very consistent, very predictable runner. He wasn't known for his huge play ability, but still scored with avengence. He racked up alot of tds on a team that didn't run the ball very much (he only had 520 something yards last year and was the leading rusher, averaging over 4.0ypc) and didn't score very much either (although he had 10 tds last year). The problem I have with him is questions of his durability. He was never really the 20 carries a game type here, so I don't know if he could do this in Houston.

I like the 1-2 punch idea

El Tejano
08-22-2006, 12:32 PM
The thing I like about Morency is his high end ability to make defenders hesitate in space with is explosive change of direction skills. I think he has grasped the concept of using his ability at the second level and run the play as designed till he gets there. You can't get on Sports Center if you can't get to the second level anyway, so you may as well listen to the coaches.

In the future I'd love to see Morency start and Dom Davis come in as the 3rd down back or obvious passing situation back. This would limit his carries and would extend his career. Lundy is the Gary Brown of the backs.
I'm not joking. I was going to literaly say the same thing. Even the part about Lundy and Gary Brown.

I also feel that if you allow DD to be our 3rd down back he can still see the field as a KR/PR.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
08-22-2006, 12:40 PM
veazeyt, did you put "BOWIE" on Mario's jersey in your avatar or was it already like that?

Rightnow
08-22-2006, 12:42 PM
I think that Morency will be the new RB for the team this year. It makes sense to start him over Lundy for another reason, he is older. They can train and coach Lundy this year and maybe the next because Morency is already 26 and won't last long--most RB's have a three year career his might just be two.

I loved what he did on Saturday. I think he will keep the starting job if DD comes back.

Texans Horror
08-22-2006, 12:54 PM
I am just glad to see us having an offense with running schemes rather than a run-based offense. Poor DD was great at finding seams, but lately we've had LANES you could park a bus in.

Divebomb
08-22-2006, 01:32 PM
I think Lundy and Morency will both get playing time. I hope Morency gets the nodd because he has one year under the belt and he is a bit more mature but Lundy needs to play as well. Neither of those two should get a majority of the carries because they will need each other to stay fresh for a complete game. We will need both to stay healthy until DD returns. I just hope DD is prepared to lay it all on the line to get the touches he is going to demand because these two young men have come to camp with a fire under their butts. They might push DD to a leavel we never new he had, or they could cause him to flop out and quit. I hope not, I like DD he has been a major positive for this team.

HeartofHouston
08-22-2006, 02:15 PM
in my personal opinion Morency will be the starter for this club more than likely first off he's a better pass blocker than Lundy and that showed in the game vs the Rams.

Some people have good timed (40 speed) but it really honestly doesnt translate as well in the NFL. Lundy clocked a 4.45 and a 4.5somthing in the combine but then again in the game I saw him get chased down by LBs and it just seemed as if he was moving at a slower pace.

Morency close a 4.5somthing and a 4.61 in his combine but in that game I saw him running pass LBs and even Ram's DBs couldnt even catch him when he broke pass the 2nd level. I like I Morency's intelligence and speed, but I love Lundy's toughness.. overall though I say that we make Morency the 1st back come regular season.

he's obviously very coachable, Kubiak changed his running style very quickly and trust me coming from a former RB, your running style is not something that is easily let go but VM has adapted well and I comend him for it.