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yourfavoritetexan42
08-16-2006, 10:16 PM
i was there with my football team (if anyone was there tonight...they white and gold jerseys...about 60 of us and a bunch of coaches/trainers) and what an experience. players were awesome to us, met most of the players... had al ot of fun.

on what my thoughts were on the team... andre johnson tore up in team time when he had about 4 tds where he was untouched. Carr and Rosenfels were on the money. Defensive wise it was hard to tell since it was helmets only, but some dbs made some awesome plays. Overall the practice was up tempo and they got stuff done.

Anyone who has attended a practice, whats your thoughts on what you see?

aj.
08-16-2006, 11:16 PM
Northland Christian. I saw you guys - you were hard to miss.

You are right about Andre. Carr just needs to find him like that when it counts.

cbnjwill
08-16-2006, 11:27 PM
i was there tonite and saw many of your players out and about. not news breaking but yes #80 looked awesome!!! this guy can be so good its scary they just need to make sure he gets plenty of balls his way. thought lundy looked good dd didnt practice again thought he looked a little chunky but like i said he was at the other end of the field not practicing wth the team.

Reddevil63
08-16-2006, 11:32 PM
Glad your group had a good time. AJ looked dominant as usual.


Did anybody else notice that for a few reps, they had Wand at RT and Winston at LT?

Dr2bKay
08-16-2006, 11:35 PM
I was there..and saw your group..I think I may have pushed one of the huge guys aside to get to DD. Overall, I thought that Andre did a good job at the receptions...Hopefully that will show up on game days..

Kaiser Toro
08-16-2006, 11:45 PM
i was there with my football team (if anyone was there tonight...they white and gold jerseys...about 60 of us and a bunch of coaches/trainers) and what an experience. players were awesome to us, met most of the players... had al ot of fun.

on what my thoughts were on the team... andre johnson tore up in team time when he had about 4 tds where he was untouched. Carr and Rosenfels were on the money. Defensive wise it was hard to tell since it was helmets only, but some dbs made some awesome plays. Overall the practice was up tempo and they got stuff done.

Anyone who has attended a practice, whats your thoughts on what you see?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

cj5776
08-17-2006, 02:11 AM
Glad your group had a good time. AJ looked dominant as usual.


Did anybody else notice that for a few reps, they had Wand at RT and Winston at LT?


What probably will happen is only one of the two backups Ts will be active on game day. Meaning they have to be the swing T, playing both sides. So if Spencer is the starting LT and Wand and Winston are the backup Ts, the one who plays both positions the best gets playing time.

To me that is the greatest strength of Wand, but Winston will get plenty of playing time when Wiegart brakes down as he always does.

Runner
08-17-2006, 05:45 AM
To me that is the greatest strength of Wand, but Winston will get plenty of playing time when Wiegart brakes down as he always does.

If Weigert breaks down early in the season, I would not be surprised to see Spencer at LT and Wand at RT. If Wand is the starting LT (which he will be, IMO), they will move him to RT and bring in Spencer, because they will want their two best remaining tackles on the field.

aj.
08-17-2006, 06:54 AM
If Weigert breaks down early in the season, I would not be surprised to see Spencer at LT and Wand at RT. If Wand is the starting LT (which he will be, IMO), they will move him to RT and bring in Spencer, because they will want their two best remaining tackles on the field.

Wand got a lot of reps at RT last night - sharing with Winston, mainly because they were short of tackles with Weigert and Salaam sitting out, but yes, that's a possible scenario.

Runner
08-17-2006, 09:16 AM
Wand got a lot of reps at RT last night - sharing with Winston, mainly because they were short of tackles with Weigert and Salaam sitting out, but yes, that's a possible scenario.

It seems they are concentrating on keeping Spencer at one position - LT - rather than have him play both sides. They want him focused on one job and set of movements. I imagine they don't want to do anything to hinder his development at this time.

This should cool down some of the Spencer can play LT/RT/guard speculation some.

Texans_Chick
08-17-2006, 09:39 AM
The Insider has a video link to Carr and Williams signing autographs after this last practice.

joetexan
08-17-2006, 10:16 AM
How did Mario look?

nunusguy
08-17-2006, 10:26 AM
They want him focused on one job and set of movements. I imagine they don't want to do anything to hinder his development at this time.

I like that if its true and wish they would apply that same philosophy to Mario and just leave him at strong side DE for the time being.
Consider this, Mario turned just 21 in January of this year and had just got out of High School 3 years ago at this time. And now they got him playing multiple postions in the preseason of his first year in the NFL.

Runner
08-17-2006, 10:29 AM
I like that if its true and wish they would apply that same philosophy to Mario and just leave him at strong side DE for the time being.


I've always thought this too, although I'd put him at the weakside. However, I defer to the coaches' experience about this. I'm not complaining until I see the results.

nunusguy
08-17-2006, 11:02 AM
I've always thought this too, although I'd put him at the weakside.
Hey, I really think that's a scenario for our DEs which is not that out of the
question, with Weaver at strongside and Mario over on the weakside. Usually
a team doesn't have the luxury of playing such a big DE on weakside when hes needed on the strongside where size is more at a premium. But this may
be Weaver's best positon in the 4-3, which does give you that luxury of playing your top pass rusher at the position which is most advantagous for him to apply his specialty. But wherever they place Mario, leave him there
for awhile.
And back to Weaver, I'm still a little newvous about playing him inside, as he
is gonna have to go up against some really big guards. For example, ex Razorback and Eagles gaurd Shawn Andrews awaits a Weaver at LDT, and he's at 340. That means Weaver is giving up > 50 lbs against that monster,
and that's whats called a mismatch.

O.G.
08-17-2006, 11:31 AM
Was Morrency with the first team and how did he look?

dalemurphy
08-17-2006, 11:39 AM
I've always thought this too, although I'd put him at the weakside. However, I defer to the coaches' experience about this. I'm not complaining until I see the results.


They can't put him on the weakside because Peek/Babin can only play weakside due to their size. It is important that he learn different positions though. They envision him on the weakside on short yardage downs with Weaver on the strong side and Payne, Robaire, and/or TJ in the middle. Then, on obvious passing downs, they may want he and TJ or Weaver in the middle with Peek and Babin on the outside. Finally, on 1st and 10, for instance, they want him on the strong side, Babin on the weakside, and Weaver and Payne/Robaire/TJ in the middle. These combinations maximize the DL situationally and allow our defense to dictate a lot of the game.

Lucky
08-17-2006, 11:55 AM
Was Morrency with the first team and how did he look?
Morency looked quick and decisive. He should get plenty of reps in St. Louis. The backs rotated for much of the night. Morency, Lundy, Rhodes, Taylor, and Smith all got touches.

Runner
08-17-2006, 12:17 PM
They can't put him on the weakside because Peek/Babin can only play weakside due to their size.

Weaver would be the other DE in that scenario.

aj.
08-17-2006, 12:25 PM
Was Morrency with the first team and how did he look?

The guys were in helmets and shorts at 3/4 speed with no tackling/limited contact on receivers and backs so you can't really make an accurate assessment of how he looked based on last night's practice -- aside from that he looked healthy. All of the backs split first team carries at one time or another. Wait 'til Saturday and we will all see how V Man looks in full gear at game speed. I'm hoping he does well because we need him.

TexanAddict
08-17-2006, 12:26 PM
Was it just me or did our second and third string DBs that were running against the first team offense look rather ugly last night? Several of our WR's catches (while nice) were largely uncontested. I saw Tramon Williams often around AJ but made no attempt to make a play on the ball. I also remember Earthwind Moreland not paying any attention as Walter broke down on a curl route. Moreland continued downfield leaving Walter wide open by 10 to 15 yards for a good 3-4 seconds, which is an eternity in football time. I like the catches our receivers were making all over the field (especially a couple AJ had that were thrown behind him), but with current state of our DBs I would like to have seen tighter coverage from our depth.:twocents:

Runner
08-17-2006, 12:39 PM
Back to the Williams/Weaver at DE discussion. Check out one of Kubiak's latest quotes:

(on changing up the defensive line) ďOur ideal situation would be to start (Anthony) Weaver at one end and Mario (Williams) at the other. To do that, this team has to continue to find another inside player. Whether thatís going to happen or not, I donít know. How far Alfred (Malone) comes, how far (Earl) Cochran comes, that will be a key to that. We know that Mario and Anthony can play inside and out. When itís all said and done, we have to play our best four. We have to figure that out through a little movement, and weíre going to do that in preseason.Ē

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2768&section=N%20Latest%20News

aj.
08-17-2006, 12:44 PM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but Earl Cochran has impressed me. I saw it Saturday night and a few times at practice. Very athletic - very big. He stands out among the second and third teams. He has a DE's body type. He will likely get caught up in a numbers game but he's going to be an NFL player somewhere.

Runner
08-17-2006, 12:50 PM
That last quote I referenced by Kubiak is pretty interesting. It sounds like weakness in the middle of the line is keeping Weaver there; if our tackles were stronger Babin and Peek wouldn't be fighting for a starting spot.

It turns out he is shuffling the line right now just to identify the best players, not because he wants Mario to be a jack-of-all-trades.

I could easily be reading too much into a single quote.

nunusguy
08-17-2006, 01:07 PM
He stands out among the second and third teams.

I dunno, but in a sense that's kinda discouraging since he's already been cut by each of the two different team that signed him before we did.

El Tejano
08-17-2006, 03:03 PM
That last quote I referenced by Kubiak is pretty interesting. It sounds like weakness in the middle of the line is keeping Weaver there; if our tackles were stronger Babin and Peek wouldn't be fighting for a starting spot.

It turns out he is shuffling the line right now just to identify the best players, not because he wants Mario to be a jack-of-all-trades.

I could easily be reading too much into a single quote.
I don't think you are. Look at the game again and look at the Chiefs second drive. All they did was run up the middle on us and got the score.

RTP2110
08-17-2006, 10:28 PM
Oh yea AJ was on fire last night. AGAIN. If he and Carr play the real games like the do in practice AJ might get 2000 yards recieving this year.

cj5776
08-17-2006, 11:11 PM
I don't think you are. Look at the game again and look at the Chiefs second drive. All they did was run up the middle on us and got the score.

Keep in mind that is probably one of the best interor line/rb combos in the NFL


I do agree Cochran deserves the props. Don't rule someone out just because they have been cut before. Players who weren't high draft picks and didn't recieve big signing bonus, don't get the same learning curve.