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joetexan
08-01-2006, 10:49 AM
Can you guys who have been talking about RB Chris Taylor fill us in about him? I know he's undrafted. That's...about...it.

Vinny
08-01-2006, 10:53 AM
To me...it is very hard to make any judgments on backs until there is full contact...but he looks like he has enough speed to get to the edge, but I think he is battling for the 3rd rb spot. I think Morency will take solid command of rb2 before the preseason is over.

joetexan
08-01-2006, 11:10 AM
I've seen at least one avatar that has a photo of him and says, "Chris Taylor is a Beast." Anybody have any background on him i.e. college, stats, etc.?

TexansSeminole
08-01-2006, 11:13 AM
To me...it is very hard to make any judgments on backs until there is full contact...but he looks like he has enough speed to get to the edge, but I think he is battling for the 3rd rb spot. I think Morency will take solid command of rb2 before the preseason is over.

I think Smith will take the #2 spot. He is more experienced and has alot to teach, usually if you want a guy to teach your young running backs you would want to have the guy play enough to prove himself. But now that I think about it, I dont really think there are set depth charts in this offensive system. I'd bet that Morency and Smith would have the same amount of carries this season, but injuries that may occur/persist bring a whole new factor into it.

Lucky
08-01-2006, 11:14 AM
Chris Taylor's college stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=133721)(courtesy of ESPN)

Chris Taylor's college bio (http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/taylor_chris00.html)

TexansSeminole
08-01-2006, 11:15 AM
Chris Taylor's college stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=133721)(courtesy of ESPN)

Chris Taylor's college bio (http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/taylor_chris00.html)
Nice thanks, I was JUST about to look them up.

Edit: the one thing I notice about these stats are there aren't any real long touchdowns. That may mean that he does not have that break away speed come game time. There are alot of things that it could mean though, it could have been the system, etc.

HeartofHouston
08-01-2006, 11:26 AM
Well what I know about him is that..

He played in a spread offense and he also shared carries with somebody else cant remember the guys name of the top of my head.

Vinny
08-01-2006, 11:34 AM
I think Smith will take the #2 spot. He is more experienced and has alot to teach, usually if you want a guy to teach your young running backs you would want to have the guy play enough to prove himself. But now that I think about it, I dont really think there are set depth charts in this offensive system. I'd bet that Morency and Smith would have the same amount of carries this season, but injuries that may occur/persist bring a whole new factor into it.I think that Smith will be our goal line/short yardage back (unless we bring someone else in)....I don't see him as a primary back since I'm still very high on Vernand...jmo.

El Tejano
08-01-2006, 11:37 AM
To me...it is very hard to make any judgments on backs until there is full contact...but he looks like he has enough speed to get to the edge, but I think he is battling for the 3rd rb spot. I think Morency will take solid command of rb2 before the preseason is over.
Does this mean Vinny, that you don't believe A. Smith will be making the squad?

I for one believe that this year will have Chris Taylor battling for the 4th RB spot for this season only. I think a year in the NFL will do him some good. I'm not sure what kind of ST player A. Smith is but I am sure he can contribute there, making him a little more valuable.

powerfuldragon
08-01-2006, 11:38 AM
Does this mean Vinny, that you don't believe A. Smith will be making the squad?

I for one believe that this year will have Chris Taylor battling for the 4th RB spot for this season only. I think a year in the NFL will do him some good. I'm not sure what kind of ST player A. Smith is but I am sure he can contribute there, making him a little more valuable.
read the post directly above yours. :D

TransplantTexan1
08-01-2006, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I'm also still optimistic about Morency. I'm looking for him to be the #2 back this year behind DD. He has the ability to be a very productive back in the NFL and you'd think that if things work out as planned, he'd get a good number of carries.

TexansSeminole
08-01-2006, 11:39 AM
I think that Smith will be our goal line/short yardage back (unless we bring someone else in)....I don't see him as a primary back since I'm still very high on Vernand...jmo.

Ya, hes not a primary back, but a relief kind of guy. I think it depends on the situation, you know. If we are up by 10 points in the beginning of the fourth quarter who do you rotate with DD, Smith or Morency. I'd rather have Smith in that situation because he'd be fresher and could tire the defense more.

If DD couldn't start a game I would expect Morency to come in rather than Smith.

Vinny
08-01-2006, 11:43 AM
Does this mean Vinny, that you don't believe A. Smith will be making the squad?

I for one believe that this year will have Chris Taylor battling for the 4th RB spot for this season only. I think a year in the NFL will do him some good. I'm not sure what kind of ST player A. Smith is but I am sure he can contribute there, making him a little more valuable.I typed in 3rd back...but I meant last rb on the roster....but yeah...I can see a scenario where Smith doesn't make the team....Taylor as well.

fan no matter what
08-01-2006, 11:47 AM
do you guys think wali lundy will be in the mix?

ocd
08-01-2006, 11:51 AM
Vinny's right...you can't accurately judge a RB until the pads are on.

Things that will push a RB down the depth chart on this offense will be:

1. the obvious...not holding onto the football.

2. Dancing. Make your cut and go.

3. Not picking up your block consistently


Morency will have trouble just like Tatum Bell's having trouble in Denver. If he starts, because of injuries, he won't start long. Must be an OSU thing.

If Taylor and Lundy can hold onto the ball, they've got a legit chance of being the future.

I know, Domanick Davis. This injury thing could be worse, and take longer to heal, than many think. I just hope this doesn't go like it did with Terrell Davis.

fan no matter what
08-01-2006, 11:56 AM
taylors stats from college reflect that he never fumbled the ball not even once

:redtowel:

fan no matter what
08-01-2006, 11:56 AM
reflect

oops

jerek
08-01-2006, 12:01 PM
FWIW I don't have any real strong feelings yet, but Taylor looks promising IMO. He is 220 lbs and quite fast, I would guess that Morency is the only back we have that is faster vertically. Taylor's best attributes are his size, his substantial open field speed, and the fact that he is very much a one-cut-and-go kind of back. He has made some rookie mistakes but I think he has a good chance of making the squad, behind Davis, Morency, and Smith. If Davis is questionable due to injury, this means that you will see Taylor in limited reps in live games, though Morency has looked better to date and I probably echo Vinny's sentiment in stating that he is probable to gain serious time this year, especially if Davis is out with injury.

I think Antowain will be primarily a short yardage back. He is slow as hell but very powerful and what you would expect from a veteran runner. He takes the hole and drives through.

I haven't particularly watched for Lundy at this point. He hasn't done anything that has particularly caught my eye, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on that. If I had to guess, I'd say he and Rhodes miss the cut at RB, as of now.

Our run blocking has to this point been spotty but they created a number of really nice runs during 11 on 11s.

Kaiser Toro
08-01-2006, 12:07 PM
Just on my own observations of Morency at OSU and in limited time in Texan's games I feel that if VM can slow down his reads and feet and allow the blocks to take place he will have a terrific year. It is a big IF, but one that would be worth holding my virtual breath for.

wrestler4life
08-01-2006, 12:25 PM
who is out fastest back?

TexanFan881
08-01-2006, 12:29 PM
I've seen at least one avatar that has a photo of him and says, "Chris Taylor is a Beast." Anybody have any background on him i.e. college, stats, etc.?

lol that's me, just made it last night, as you can tell I'm high on him.

Kaiser Toro
08-01-2006, 12:34 PM
who is out fastest back?

How does one define that is the question? Some guys are not as quick with the ball as they are without it. Some are quicker in lateral drills from their cohorts than they are in linear drills. Do you measure at 100 yds, 40 yds, 20 yds or 5 yds?

In the ZBS it would make sense that the coaches have a speed they are looking for in different tiers of the attack and once past the LOS. And that speed at the point of attack is most likely slower than faster.

Hutch13
08-01-2006, 12:34 PM
Hmm from what yall are talking about him, I and many others see him like Terrell Davis, the guy flys under the radar and seems like the same type of back TD is.

Lucky
08-01-2006, 12:38 PM
There are alot of things that it could mean though, it could have been the system, etc.
Well that, and the fact that Taylor wasn't getting many carries with his team down 20 to 30 points. Indiana finished 1-7 in the Big Ten last year. Taylor gained over 100 yards in the win.

mexican_texan
08-01-2006, 12:38 PM
Chris Taylor's stats are unimpressive at best. His best games were against "powerhouses" like Illinois. If his speed is his only thing that makes him pop out to guys at practice, then we should look at Trung Candidate.

jerek
08-01-2006, 12:47 PM
who is out fastest back?

Hard to say. Even if you have access to measurables like 40 time and cone drill, that doesn't necessarily translate to speed with the ball in your hands. Mathis for instance is an absolute burner once he gets going, but he does not have particularly great acceleration nor cut agility. Most of his fantastic runs last year involved one or two cuts before a tackler got his hands on him, and then he got into the open field and turned it on.

I would say Morency is, generally speaking, our fastest back, followed by Taylor and then Lundy. I haven't watched them enough to comment on specifics, but that is my general guess.

Chris Taylor's stats are unimpressive at best. His best games were against "powerhouses" like Illinois. If his speed is his only thing that makes him pop out to guys at practice, then we should look at Trung Candidate.

Yes and no. He has speed, but it is primarily his ability to make one cut and find the hole, combined with his power once he gets going (I saw him level a DB the other day, don't remember who it was, but he is a strong runner) that makes him noticeable. He may be a workout warrior and may suck or have fumbling problems or what have you come Game Day; just pointing out that he looks good now. Previously, a big knock on Morency was that he was too indecisive -- danced around too much in the backfield, so at that point, his speed wasn't relevant. He has looked much better this year taking the ball and making the quick decision, going with it.

Vinny
08-01-2006, 12:55 PM
Well that, and the fact that Taylor wasn't getting many carries with his team down 20 to 30 points. Indiana finished 1-7 in the Big Ten last year. Taylor gained over 100 yards in the win.
Indiana lost their last seven games by a score of 249 to 95...so yeah, they were behind quite a bit. Only Dom Capers runs when trying to play catch-up ball (couldn't resist).

Here is the 2005 Indiana preview from college football news.com and Taylor doesn't get much press, but that alone doesn't mean much...but it's stuff....and we are looking for stuff. so stuff it is.

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/2005_Previews/Indiana_offense.htm

nunusguy
08-01-2006, 01:06 PM
who is out fastest back?
Some might mean "quickness" or "explosiveness" when saying fastest, but
"fastest" usually refers to sprinting speed, and the defining event for measuring sprinting spead in football is the 40 (yards not meters, which
definitely dates the use of this standard).
Most of the fastest players on this team, as with most NFL teams, are found
at WR and CB positions, not at RB.

Big J
08-01-2006, 01:21 PM
Taylor played ahead of Yamar Washington. Many people didnt know about him because he played behind Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, who transfered the year before, and left Taylor with only one year of eligibilty. Taylor was a solid running back, and while IU's record is horrible, he wasnt the problem.

He could contribute to the Texans but I dont see him being any higher than a 3rd Option.

GP
08-01-2006, 01:56 PM
Does this mean Vinny, that you don't believe A. Smith will be making the squad?

I for one believe that this year will have Chris Taylor battling for the 4th RB spot for this season only. I think a year in the NFL will do him some good. I'm not sure what kind of ST player A. Smith is but I am sure he can contribute there, making him a little more valuable.

I think that Smith was an emergency addition, nothing more. DD's injury caused us grab a guy (Smith) as insurance.

If we acquire another veteran RB (Bennett?) then I think Smith is cut. If we cannot secure another veteran RB, I think he might squeek by and make the roster.

I just am not sold on Smith being as big a part of our team as Kubiak and others are saying. That's a move to make Smith feel needed and/or wanted, IMO, and I just have always felt Smith was an insurance acquisition the whole time. Otherwise, we'd be set with DD, Morency, Lundy, Smith, and Taylor--That's FIVE RBs right there that could battle it out for the roster spots.

So why are we still seeing Kubiak make mention of looking at veteran RBs? Because DD is injured and Smith is not the best answer for taking up an entire roster spot. Throw in an unknown commodity like Taylor, and you have Morency and Lundy as the two backs with the most talent who could proably carry the rock with the level of consistency that we need.

I tend to look at things logically. And logic tells me that Smith is not anywhere near the top of Kubiak's list. I think he's dead serious when he says he's still looking at veteran RBs out there. And if he gets a guy he wants, then I think Smith HAS to be the odd-man out.

Do any of you reallllllly think Smith offers more than Morency, Lundy, Bennett, etc? I don't. He had his time, and it's slipping away quickly. And Bennett's not far behind him, either.

Coach C.
08-01-2006, 04:08 PM
First- A speed back is considered not only quick laterally but having exceptional straight line speed. Examples would be Tiki Barber, Brian Westbrook, and the NO Saints Rookie(I will not speak his name so this thread is not corrupted).
So when you ask who is the fastest of our RBs it is clearly Morency.

2nd- Antowain Smith is a short yardage and goalline back that is used quite often in Denver's system. Usually it is a Fullback if they do not have a true all purpose guy. Smith will be to us what Jonathan Wells should have been a power back that will get in get tough yards and really mentor guys like Morency and Taylor. DD will have limited carries split between Morency and Smith, with Taylor seeing spot duty. Morency and Taylor could handle the overall job if DD was put on the shelf though.

3rd- Taylor is a mid-road back meaning that he is similar to but not nearly as talented as like a Larry Johnson. His running style is very similar. He is a one cut get downhill back that has enough speed to get to the outside and break long runs, but he will resort to power before he tries to use his speed.

TexanFan881
08-01-2006, 04:17 PM
First- A speed back is considered not only quick laterally but having exceptional straight line speed. Examples would be Tiki Barber, Brian Westbrook, and the NO Saints Rookie(I will not speak his name so this thread is not corrupted).
So when you ask who is the fastest of our RBs it is clearly Morency.

2nd- Antowain Smith is a short yardage and goalline back that is used quite often in Denver's system. Usually it is a Fullback if they do not have a true all purpose guy. Smith will be to us what Jonathan Wells should have been a power back that will get in get tough yards and really mentor guys like Morency and Taylor. DD will have limited carries split between Morency and Smith, with Taylor seeing spot duty. Morency and Taylor could handle the overall job if DD was put on the shelf though.

3rd- Taylor is a mid-road back meaning that he is similar to but not nearly as talented as like a Larry Johnson. His running style is very similar. He is a one cut get downhill back that has enough speed to get to the outside and break long runs, but he will resort to power before he tries to use his speed.

I must ask, where does Wali Lundy fit into the picture?

ledzeppelin229
08-01-2006, 04:42 PM
3rd- Taylor is a mid-road back meaning that he is similar to but not nearly as talented as like a Larry Johnson. His running style is very similar. He is a one cut get downhill back that has enough speed to get to the outside and break long runs, but he will resort to power before he tries to use his speed.

Wouldn't that part make him ideal for Kubiaks running system? The one-cut downhill part.

Coach C.
08-01-2006, 05:22 PM
I must ask, where does Wali Lundy fit into the picture?

Taylor and Morency have been getting more run with the first team. Lundy has been the second team back pretty regularly. Lundy is good, but he runs much more like a power back than anything. I can definately see why he scored so many touchdowns in college, the kid has very good balance and a nose for where he is on the field. Truthfully Taylor has been getting alot of love, but I think come preseason games Lundy will get the nod before Taylor. Taylor is a denver system type of back and alot of people around the organization are thinking we truely have found a gem, but you never know. He is still a darkhorse to me, but a very good one.

tulexan
08-01-2006, 05:38 PM
How funny would it be if Taylor became the starting RB and ended up with more yards than the #2 pick.

Insideop
08-01-2006, 05:53 PM
How funny would it be if Taylor became the starting RB and ended up with more yards than the #2 pick.


I would LMAO if that happened! lol:

painekiller
08-01-2006, 06:17 PM
How funny would it be if Taylor became the starting RB and ended up with more yards than the #2 pick.

Me too:logo:

TexanFan881
08-01-2006, 08:35 PM
Anything's possible before the season starts :redtowel:

threetoedpete
08-01-2006, 08:44 PM
I think Smith will take the #2 spot. He is more experienced and has alot to teach, usually if you want a guy to teach your young running backs you would want to have the guy play enough to prove himself. But now that I think about it, I dont really think there are set depth charts in this offensive system. I'd bet that Morency and Smith would have the same amount of carries this season, but injuries that may occur/persist bring a whole new factor into it.
Well, Antoin might make the club. But it is clear, from what I saw in pracftice, he dose not have the gear left anymore to reach the seven hole on the strech play. And since that is a primary weapon in this offense, if he makes the club it will be as the short yardage/ goal line back. JMHO.

caspian
08-01-2006, 08:45 PM
I think that Smith was an emergency addition, nothing more. DD's injury caused us grab a guy (Smith) as insurance.

If we acquire another veteran RB (Bennett?) then I think Smith is cut. If we cannot secure another veteran RB, I think he might squeek by and make the roster.

I just am not sold on Smith being as big a part of our team as Kubiak and others are saying. That's a move to make Smith feel needed and/or wanted, IMO, and I just have always felt Smith was an insurance acquisition the whole time. Otherwise, we'd be set with DD, Morency, Lundy, Smith, and Taylor--That's FIVE RBs right there that could battle it out for the roster spots.

So why are we still seeing Kubiak make mention of looking at veteran RBs? Because DD is injured and Smith is not the best answer for taking up an entire roster spot. Throw in an unknown commodity like Taylor, and you have Morency and Lundy as the two backs with the most talent who could proably carry the rock with the level of consistency that we need.

I tend to look at things logically. And logic tells me that Smith is not anywhere near the top of Kubiak's list. I think he's dead serious when he says he's still looking at veteran RBs out there. And if he gets a guy he wants, then I think Smith HAS to be the odd-man out.

Do any of you reallllllly think Smith offers more than Morency, Lundy, Bennett, etc? I don't. He had his time, and it's slipping away quickly. And Bennett's not far behind him, either.

Anyone else think it's ironic that we're having significant RB concerns on the heels of passing on the greatest college RB we've seen in at least a decade?

jerek
08-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Anyone else think it's ironic that we're having significant RB concerns on the heels of passing on the greatest college RB we've seen in at least a decade?

If we were having concerns, it might be ironic. If Reggie Bush was the better choice, even moreso.

We have two legitimate HBs to take the place of Davis if he can't go. Antowain Smith as a 3rd at power back. Take the Reggie manlove to the Saints board; I'm sure they'll celebrate it with you there.

Zac
08-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Dominic Davis has a roster spot, but is he healthy to play?

Antowan Smith is here to hold on to the ball and get 1 yard or 2 in critical spots. Power back!!! Not to get 100 yards.

Vernon Morency, I've heard has a lot of potential, but it's not transclating on to the field. Hopefully he figures it out.


And Taylor and Lundi are toss ups. One is an undrafted guy, the other a 6th round guy. Obviously, if they make it in the league, they are making it because they've got heart. Everyteam in the league had a chance at them more than once, and passed on them several times. I think that following wether they make the roster is fun and all, but STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, it would be a huge coup if they were even serviceable in the NFL for even ONE YEAR!!!! :lightbulb:


I think that Kubiac is searching for another running back because, Taylor and Lundi have too many question marks. I would bet that Kubiac probably wants them to go to the practice squad to learn the system more, then come back next training camp. :twocents:

AFD1717
08-01-2006, 10:00 PM
If we were having concerns, it might be ironic. If Reggie Bush was the better choice, even moreso.
Beautiful. I couldn't have said it better.

CloakNNNdagger
08-01-2006, 10:13 PM
Anyone else think it's ironic that we're having significant RB concerns on the heels of passing on the greatest college RB we've seen in at least a decade?

No..........just temporarily challenging.

nunusguy
08-01-2006, 10:29 PM
Anyone else think it's ironic that we're having significant RB concerns on the heels of passing on the greatest college RB we've seen in at least a decade?
As formidable a weapon as Bush is, he is a more versatile and even exotice offensive player as compared to the traditional, full time set back the Texans now need in their backfield.

The Preacher
08-01-2006, 10:50 PM
The beauty of Kubiak's offense is you can plug in other teams' scraps and find a guy to win a Thanksgiving day game for you. Time and time again they find a gem to run for a 1,000 easy. TD, Mike Anderson, etc...these guys were hardly high draft picks. It just takes a certain style that they have perfected the science of finding. It is much more a commodity position that doesn't demand all the flash certain high picks possess. It sounds like Kubiak surprisingly really likes the hand he has right now and it may turn out whoever lands on the practice squad could be starting by year end. That would necessitate a lot of injuries but I believe the Texans could have a Samkon Gado situation where a guy comes out of nowhere to put up big numbers. Hopefully DD stays healthy and this talk is all for not but I really think running back is one of the least of Kubiak's worries. Plus it will be a lot more fun to root for all our backs to collectively match Bush's #'s, which I think they will, plus we got a cannonball steamroller in Mario to give our D a fearful presence. :cowboy1: The difficulty will be in deciding who gets let go or heads to the practice squad.

tulexan
08-01-2006, 10:56 PM
And Taylor and Lundi are toss ups. One is an undrafted guy, the other a 6th round guy. Obviously, if they make it in the league, they are making it because they've got heart. Everyteam in the league had a chance at them more than once, and passed on them several times. I think that following wether they make the roster is fun and all, but STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, it would be a huge coup if they were even serviceable in the NFL for even ONE YEAR!!!! :lightbulb:


All I have to say is
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/images/2001_02/main_images/nfl/holmes_02.jpg

HOOK'EM
08-02-2006, 12:01 AM
Could Chris Taylor be the next Terrell Davis?

tex
08-02-2006, 07:51 AM
Taylor and Lundi being passed up by other teams don't mean they can't play just means they didn't fit that teams system.

Coach C.
08-02-2006, 08:26 AM
Could Chris Taylor be the next Terrell Davis?

No he will not. Terrell Davis is himself, Chris Taylor will do him, they are not even the same type runner. Davis at his heaviest was 215, Taylor is 224. Do not put crazy high hopes on a kid that is just learning what the NFL is about. He may turn out to be really good, but right now he is in a battle with Morency, Lundy, and Smith just so he can make the active roster, much less get any type of significant PT.

nunusguy
08-02-2006, 08:44 AM
No he will not. Terrell Davis is himself, Chris Taylor will do him, they are not even the same type runner. Davis at his heaviest was 215, Taylor is 224. Do not put crazy high hopes on a kid that is just learning what the NFL is about.
As an unknown 6th round Draft pick out of Georgia in the mid 90s, TD rushed for > 1100 yards his rookie year. And as Taylor is doing now, TD was just learning the NFL himself in that first year.

TexansSeminole
08-02-2006, 10:30 AM
All I have to say is
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/images/2001_02/main_images/nfl/holmes_02.jpg
Priest Holmes played at Texas, and backed up Ricky Williams. That's a little different than Lundy or Taylors situation in college.

jerek
08-02-2006, 11:09 AM
As an unknown 6th round Draft pick out of Georgia in the mid 90s, TD rushed for > 1100 yards his rookie year. And as Taylor is doing now, TD was just learning the NFL himself in that first year.

He wasn't saying it's not possible, he was just reminding people to put Taylor's work in context and to remember the fact that we're still in friggin camp. Of course it's possible; now, would I bet on it? He's a good kid and is doing well so far, but a lot remains to be seen. I'll wait until I see a preseason game at least before I rush to crown him the next Terrell Davis.

nunusguy
08-02-2006, 01:52 PM
He wasn't saying it's not possible, he was just reminding people to put Taylor's work in context and to remember the fact that we're still in friggin camp. Of course it's possible; now, would I bet on it? He's a good kid and is doing well so far, but a lot remains to be seen. I'll wait until I see a preseason game at least before I rush to crown him the next Terrell Davis.
And all I was saying is that Taylor, just like TD back in the '90s when he first arrived in Denver, is an unknown rookie "still in friggin camp".
And of course it's possible for him to have the kind of rookie season that TD
had. It's also possible for him to be a U.S. Senator someday - "anything is possible". Would I bet on it ? No, but I'd sure bet against Taylor having an
1.1 K rookie year. Of course its all very unlikely that Taylor would have the
kind of rookie season that TD did.
Taylor is really kind of the antithese of Reggie Bush and as such, he's starting to become a sentimental favorite around here to atleast make the team. People are pulling for him and like to speculate about his chances, no matter
how outrageous and even silly that speculation might be.

aj.
08-02-2006, 01:52 PM
As an unknown 6th round Draft pick out of Georgia in the mid 90s, TD rushed for > 1100 yards his rookie year. And as Taylor is doing now, TD was just learning the NFL himself in that first year.

If you're looking for a modern day comparison for Taylor, look up I-45 at Marion Barber. At least we would be lucky if that's how he turned out. I'm going to leave the TD compares in the hope chest until he plays a game or two. They are vastly different in style and probably shouldn't be compared anyway.

Meloy
08-02-2006, 02:05 PM
Just curious, in training camp that rookie year, was anyone suggesting Davis would have the year he did?

aj.
08-02-2006, 02:06 PM
No, because he was't drafted to be a starter. He was supposed to be a 3rd down back and kick returner. And he was hurt that first preseason. Broken wrist, right?

It was supposed to be the Stacey Mack show that year, until DD's coming out party at Indy.

infantrycak
08-02-2006, 02:13 PM
No, because he was't drafted to be a starter. He was supposed to be a 3rd down back and kick returner. And he was hurt that first preseason. Broken wrist, right?

It was supposed to be the Stacey Mack show that year, until DD's coming out party at Indy.

Broken wrist sounds right--missed almost all of TC didn't he? Then came in to spell Mack in Miami and ran over Zach Thomas to open everyone's eyes.

aj.
08-02-2006, 02:15 PM
His first start was actually the Jets game the week before the Indy game. For some reason I don't recall him having such a big day that day. Maybe because of the frustration when the Texans came from ahead 14-0 to lose.

infantrycak
08-02-2006, 02:28 PM
His first start was actually the Jets game the week before the Indy game. For some reason I don't recall him having such a big day that day. Maybe because of the frustration when the Texans came from ahead 14-0 to lose.

That is frustration talking. Davis had 129 yards rushing at 4.8 ypc and 9 receptions for 70 yds. No TD's though.

Meloy
08-02-2006, 02:43 PM
We have really gotten our money's worth out of DD.Hope we can say the same about some others as this season ends.

WWX
08-02-2006, 03:22 PM
It sounds like Chris Taylor wants to prove himself and carries various qualities that might fit into Kubís system. Too bad for me I canít personally watch him until gameday but Iíd like to see the reps he receives with the first teamers. If he is really impressing the coaching staff, front office, then we should see Mr. Taylor receive plenty of reps during the upcoming preseason games. Until then all I have are the practice reports from you that so diligently give them. Has anyone been attending this weeks practices? If so please relay if Chris is receiving some good reps with the big boys. IMO if he is progressingly receiving more reps with the starting offense then there are plans to utilize him, on some level, this season.

:trophy:

Coach C.
08-02-2006, 08:58 PM
WWX, Chris Taylor has gotten a good amount of work with the first team this week and should naturally get more as we get closer to the first preseason game. He will be scrutinized during the preseason to see what he really brings to the table.

O.G.
08-02-2006, 10:48 PM
WWX, Chris Taylor has gotten a good amount of work with the first team this week and should naturally get more as we get closer to the first preseason game. He will be scrutinized during the preseason to see what he really brings to the table.

What's Lundy's status?

Coach C.
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Lundy is doing some good work, but there are some things he is learning in this system. Short yardage and goalline the kid is a monster and is very aware of were he is on the field. He has tremendous balance and suprisingly adequate hands. He does not get as many reps with the big boys as Taylor and Morency, but he will come along well.

mexican_texan
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
What's Lundy's status?
You know how some people are raving over Chris Taylor? The players feel that way about Lundy. He is said to improve by the day. Or so I heard on SR610.

TexanFan881
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Lundy is doing some good work, but there are some things he is learning in this system. Short yardage and goalline the kid is a monster and is very aware of were he is on the field. He has tremendous balance and suprisingly adequate hands. He does not get as many reps with the big boys as Taylor and Morency, but he will come along well.

What does the RB situation look like as far as in depth chart form?

1.) DD
2.) Taylor
3.) Morency
4.) Lundy

Smith - short yardage

???

This question is for anyone that's seen the team during TC. Is Taylor looking like the option if DD isn't able to be ready at the beginning of the year?

WWX
08-03-2006, 12:17 AM
WWX, Chris Taylor has gotten a good amount of work with the first team this week and should naturally get more as we get closer to the first preseason game. He will be scrutinized during the preseason to see what he really brings to the table.

An undrafted HB NATURALLY receiving more and more reps with the starting squad? What is natural about that? Please tell me if it's normal to see these types of additions receiving quality playtime like Taylor gets. Or is he receiving an unexpected amount of play and attention on the field? He looks good in training camp pictures, thatís all I can get. Thanks for all your insightful input because itís invaluable to me.

:trophy:

ocd
08-03-2006, 04:03 AM
The beauty of Kubiak's offense is you can plug in other teams' scraps and find a guy to win a Thanksgiving day game for you. Time and time again they find a gem to run for a 1,000 easy. TD, Mike Anderson, etc...these guys were hardly high draft picks. It just takes a certain style that they have perfected the science of finding. It is much more a commodity position that doesn't demand all the flash certain high picks possess. It sounds like Kubiak surprisingly really likes the hand he has right now and it may turn out whoever lands on the practice squad could be starting by year end. That would necessitate a lot of injuries but I believe the Texans could have a Samkon Gado situation where a guy comes out of nowhere to put up big numbers. Hopefully DD stays healthy and this talk is all for not but I really think running back is one of the least of Kubiak's worries. Plus it will be a lot more fun to root for all our backs to collectively match Bush's #'s, which I think they will, plus we got a cannonball steamroller in Mario to give our D a fearful presence. :cowboy1: The difficulty will be in deciding who gets let go or heads to the practice squad.


Preach it Preacher Man, preach it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:superman:

Coach C.
08-03-2006, 09:08 AM
What does the RB situation look like as far as in depth chart form?

1.) DD
2.) Taylor
3.) Morency
4.) Lundy

Smith - short yardage

???

This question is for anyone that's seen the team during TC. Is Taylor looking like the option if DD isn't able to be ready at the beginning of the year?

1. DD
2. Smith
3. Morency
4. Taylor
5. Lundy
6. Rhodes


An undrafted HB NATURALLY receiving more and more reps with the starting squad? What is natural about that? Please tell me if it's normal to see these types of additions receiving quality playtime like Taylor gets. Or is he receiving an unexpected amount of play and attention on the field? He looks good in training camp pictures, thatís all I can get. Thanks for all your insightful input because itís invaluable to me.

I say naturally will receive more reps, because Kubiak and Calhoun give reps based on performance during practice. Since he is performing every practice he will "naturally" receive more reps. That is all. No it is not natural to see an undrafted FA get reps, unless the RB situation is mirky. Such as ours or Baltimore's when they signed Priest Holmes.

thunderkyss
08-03-2006, 10:28 AM
Hmm from what yall are talking about him, I and many others see him like Terrell Davis, the guy flys under the radar and seems like the same type of back TD is.


was Terrell Davis Particularly fast??

nunusguy
08-03-2006, 10:32 AM
was Terrell Davis Particularly fast??
No, but the applicable word would be "explosive": really hit the hole and
was a very hard runner who hit like he was 225 or bigger and not 'bout 210.
Tremendous heart, personafied the expression "heart of a champion".
He was one of my all time favorite RBs.

WWX
08-03-2006, 12:11 PM
I say naturally will receive more reps, because Kubiak and Calhoun give reps based on performance during practice. Since he is performing every practice he will "naturally" receive more reps. That is all. No it is not natural to see an undrafted FA get reps, unless the RB situation is mirky. Such as ours or Baltimore's when they signed Priest Holmes.

Thank you for the info. I hope this kid continues to show heart.

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wrestler4life
08-03-2006, 01:20 PM
We have really gotten our money's worth out of DD.Hope we can say the same about some others as this season ends.
Not if he can't play anymore and we signed him to all that money!

TexanFan881
08-03-2006, 11:55 PM
It's always interesting to go back and read what people think before the draft.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/draft/2006/04/28/hidden.gems/index.html

Chris Taylor, RB, Indiana: Many considered it a travesty that Taylor was not invited to the combine after a terrific senior season. At 5-11 and possessing 4.4 speed, he'll produce at the next level once he adds a little polish to his game.

WWX
08-04-2006, 01:36 AM
Thatís a nice forty time but I wonder how he looks on the practice field in full contact 11 Ė 11? All I saw was a pic on houstontexans.com where heís fighting for a first down. Anyone see that Thursday night practice? If so what RB carried the most weight?

:mario:

whiskeyrbl
08-04-2006, 08:40 AM
What are the chances that Taylor could be our Willie Parker? I hear alot about him here but had never heard of him before we picked him up. Are there any video links to him?