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Ironist
07-23-2006, 06:15 PM
Lately there has been so much bashing of Reggie Bush and his character that I've felt compelled to ask "Is this everyones belief, or just us Texans fans'?"

I found some interesting things. Bush has donated HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars already to local schools and rebuilding efforts. I then found a Saints message board. THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH HIM. He has already done so much for the community, and he DOES want to be in camp on time.

Anyways, I just thought I'd invite the Bush-bashers to visit a Saints thread and see if you still feel he's a "jerk" after.

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=211537

jerek
07-23-2006, 06:33 PM
I guess that beats him blowing it all on hookers and coke. Seriously, I'm glad he's donating to good causes and forging ties with the community, but I still think he's greedy for holding out at this point. Could be I've received faulty information or it could be I'm just wrong. Still my opinion.

TexanFan881
07-23-2006, 06:42 PM
I could see why the Saints are in love with Reggie Bush. After our front office fumbled the ball the Saints got who should've been the first pick overall and one of the greatest ever College players. Reggie has been helping out in the community and bashing him because he is currently not signed is just showing how much we really hope that Reggie fails so that we don't look stupid. I'm sure Reggie won't let that happen. He's not stupid, and he's not going to screw up his future to gain a couple more dollars. Reggie will get signed and this will not hold him back at all. The NFL is a business like all sports and Reggie and his agent will do what they can to get Reggie what they think he deserves but I think his agent and him are both smart enough to realize they will lose more than they can gain by sitting out a season and re-entering the draft.

MorKnolle
07-23-2006, 06:59 PM
I guess that beats him blowing it all on hookers and coke. Seriously, I'm glad he's donating to good causes and forging ties with the community, but I still think he's greedy for holding out at this point. Could be I've received faulty information or it could be I'm just wrong. Still my opinion.

Part of it is his agent too, Segal is renowned for waiting until the player picked before and after each of his clients is signed so he gets a deal somewhere in between or better. It is somewhat of a safe move on his part to protect himself but his clients to tend to take longer to get signed. If I'm not mistaken Segal also represents Santonio Holmes, so he might be a late signee as well.

CloakNNNdagger
07-23-2006, 07:17 PM
Part of it is his agent too, Segal is renowned for waiting until the player picked before and after each of his clients is signed so he gets a deal somewhere in between or better. It is somewhat of a safe move on his part to protect himself but his clients to tend to take longer to get signed. If I'm not mistaken Segal also represents Santonio Holmes, so he might be a late signee as well.


With Holmes off field arrests and character issues, after hearing Cowher's comments when interviewed, if he has anything to say about it, his offer will be "limited" if nonexistent......interesting to say the least.

TexanFan881
07-23-2006, 07:20 PM
With Holmes off field arrests and character issues, after hearing Cowher's comments when interviewed, if he has anything to say about it, his offer will be "limited" if nonexistent......interesting to say the least.

The Steelers need him more than they think they do if they don't sign him...they've got nobody to take the #2 WR role if they don't sign him. They'll come to an agreement good for both sides but it will be for a little less than what Santonio would originally get, but not much less. He's still got talent and I'm sure he's learned from his mistakes considering he's going to lose a couple mil because of them.

swtbound07
07-23-2006, 10:30 PM
Rich people throwing cash at charities doesn't make them swell people in my book. Also, the "greatest college player ever" thing is starting to grate on me as well. If that sentence doesn't start and end with Bo Jackson, i don't want to read it. Reggie is a scatback. In my opinion, a scatback with good vision, lousy size, terrible instincts and decision making skills (holds the ball away from his body a lot, which will translate to fumbles in the nfl, Also, makes poor decisions in crucial situation...i.e. the rose bowl lateral). I think the hype on this guy is amazing, and i wouldn't be suprised to see him holdout for a year a la bo jackson. Im not suprised there was scandal about his parents housing, and Im not suprised that people are heralding him as the 2nd coming of Gale Sayers. I just think he is overrated.

Anguyen
07-23-2006, 10:35 PM
hellooo Bush donate other people (sponsors) money to repair his image got it. If he wanted to be in camp on time then why he don't sign the 2nd pick overall money?

swtbound07
07-23-2006, 10:43 PM
hellooo Bush donate other people (sponsors) money to repair his image got it. If he wanted to be in camp on time then why he don't sign the 2nd pick overall money?

Welcome to the board. Interesting first post. If Reggie is truely a college football god, as some people seem to feel, why SHOULD he settle for 2nd pick money. Its ridiculous if you think about it, being as how he should have been the first overall pick. This is not a new schtick though, Kellen Winslow Jr. wanted #1 overall money based on the fact that cleveland said they would have chosen him 1st overall if they had held the #1 pick. The logic is just as sound as Reggies.

TexansLucky13
07-23-2006, 10:52 PM
Surprisingly I am in a bit of agreeance with Mr. SWTBound in this case. I don't think that throwing a ton of money at charities automatically makes you a good person. Also, if he wanted to help a disaster-torn city, why not start with helping out their football team and not haggling like this? Not only does this make me feel better about snagging Super Mario, it makes me feel sorry for the city of NO that his ego and hype is cursing them already.

Don't get me wrong... you can go back to a thread in April before the draft and see me rooting for Reggie all the way. I think he is (or can be molded into) a terrific player. But in the end, I realize that Kubiak and McNair made a calculated move in doing this. Not only do they avoid a holdout, they gain an outstanding leader on defensive. It's not like we actually needed a severe boost to our running game... that's not our weak point.

Anguyen
07-23-2006, 10:55 PM
Welcome to the board. Interesting first post. If Reggie is truely a college football god, as some people seem to feel, why SHOULD he settle for 2nd pick money. Its ridiculous if you think about it, being as how he should have been the first overall pick. This is not a new schtick though, Kellen Winslow Jr. wanted #1 overall money based on the fact that cleveland said they would have chosen him 1st overall if they had held the #1 pick. The logic is just as sound as Reggies.
well you telling me player at the 12th pick he think he is should be picking at number 6th pick should he be paid at number 6Th pick?

Koolaid Time
07-23-2006, 10:56 PM
hellooo Bush donate other people (sponsors) money to repair his image got it. If he wanted to be in camp on time then why he don't sign the 2nd pick overall money?

Good point... if he wanted to be in camp, he would be.

Reggie isn't hurting for money. He can take less than Mario and make up the difference with all that endorsement money--some of which he has already collected.

swtbound07
07-23-2006, 10:58 PM
Surprisingly I am in a bit of agreeance with Mr. SWTBound in this case. I don't think that throwing a ton of money at charities automatically makes you a good person. Also, if he wanted to help a disaster-torn city, why not start with helping out their football team and not haggling like this? Not only does this make me feel better about snagging Super Mario, it makes me feel sorry for the city of NO that his ego and hype is cursing them already.

Don't get me wrong... you can go back to a thread in April before the draft and see me rooting for Reggie all the way. I think he is (or can be molded into) a terrific player. But in the end, I realize that Kubiak and McNair made a calculated move in doing this. Not only do they avoid a holdout, they gain an outstanding leader on defensive. It's not like we actually needed a severe boost to our running game... that's not our weak point.

This might be one of those signs of the apocalypse i've heard so much about.

TexansLucky13
07-23-2006, 10:59 PM
He can take less than Mario and make up the difference with all that endorsement money--some of which he has already collected.

Yea... where do you think his donations to date came from? I doubt the Saints are letting him near the petty cash fund.

This might be one of those signs of the apocalypse i've heard so much about.

:hides:

Anguyen
07-23-2006, 11:13 PM
Yea... where do you think his donations to date came from? I doubt the Saints are letting him near the petty cash fund.



:hides:
He's flipping burger at McDonald for min paid, and give to charities.

swtbound07
07-24-2006, 12:15 AM
Lately there has been so much bashing of Reggie Bush and his character that I've felt compelled to ask "Is this everyones belief, or just us Texans fans'?"

I found some interesting things. Bush has donated HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars already to local schools and rebuilding efforts. I then found a Saints message board. THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH HIM. He has already done so much for the community, and he DOES want to be in camp on time.

Anyways, I just thought I'd invite the Bush-bashers to visit a Saints thread and see if you still feel he's a "jerk" after.

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=211537

Yep...still think he is a jerk and a cancer...glad he is in your organization and not mine.

Ironist
07-24-2006, 12:28 AM
I'm not saying throwing a bunch of money at charities makes someone a good guy, but let's remember...we have no reason to believe he's a bad guy, either.

Hutch13
07-24-2006, 02:19 AM
Like i said in the other thread if he wanted to sign already he would have accepted the number 2 money and would be in training camp on time. Hes a millionare throwing a few hundred thousand dollars doesnt make you a great person with a kind heart. Ironist we just listed a few reasons on why he is a selfish guy.

Ironist
07-24-2006, 01:34 PM
So I'm guessing the other 30 unsigned 1st rounders are selfish as well?

They're all working on contracts trying to get as much as they can get. We have no idea what contracts have been offered or discussed. Besides, the saints knew they would pay near #1 money for a prospect who (in almost any scenario) would have been #1.

mexican_texan
07-24-2006, 01:57 PM
Someone needs to warn Bush of the road he is heading down. I don't remember Keyshawn being this bad. Bush wants more money than Mario Williams, but he's getting a lot of money, no matter what happens.

MightyTExan
07-24-2006, 02:11 PM
Is Bush trying to get traded to another team? Is that possible?

Anguyen
07-25-2006, 03:46 PM
Has Mario signed any endorsments yet??
not that I know of, it hard for DL to get endorsements. Endorsements for players that get to touch the ball. Sponsors like to endorse on players with action, and highlight thing that draw attention in the good way that's how they market their products.

Titan "Tack" Fan
07-25-2006, 03:49 PM
I think it's almost as bad as another Carr thread.:wacko:

One of the most hyped players in NFL history! ...... people talking about him is normal

Anguyen
07-25-2006, 11:16 PM
Yea Carr is going to take them to the superbowl!!
I'll be surprise if Carr doesn't take Texans to Superbowl before Bush, or VY.

swtbound07
07-25-2006, 11:26 PM
I'll be surprise if Carr doesn't take Texans to Superbowl before Bush, or VY.


I'd bet you 100 to 1 right now that a carr led team never makes it to a superbowl

ensign_lee
07-26-2006, 01:23 AM
I'd bet you 100 to 1 right now that a carr led team never makes it to a superbowl

Wait. Am I laying 1 to win 100 that David Carr will lead a team to the Superbowl?

or am I laying 100 to win 1 that David Carr will lead a team to the Superbowl?

A) I will take
B) I will not.

Anguyen
07-26-2006, 03:06 PM
Wait. Am I laying 1 to win 100 that David Carr will lead a team to the Superbowl?

or am I laying 100 to win 1 that David Carr will lead a team to the Superbowl?

A) I will take
B) I will not.
sound like a good odd anybody?

jerek
07-26-2006, 03:09 PM
I'd bet you 100 to 1 right now that a carr led team never makes it to a superbowl

I'll put 10 dollars on that. Define "Carr lead."

swtbound07
07-26-2006, 03:11 PM
I'll put 10 dollars on that. Define "Carr lead."

David Carr be the starting quarterback for the majority of the games in a season where his team goes to the superbowl.

tulexan
07-26-2006, 03:20 PM
David Carr be the starting quarterback for the majority of the games in a season where his team goes to the superbowl.

I'll take that bet. Does it have to be with the Texans? Also I want the $100 adjusted for inflation.

swtbound07
07-26-2006, 03:23 PM
I'll take that bet. Does it have to be with the Texans? Also I want the $100 adjusted for inflation.

I don't do inflation.....and no it doesn't have to be with the texans.

tulexan
07-26-2006, 03:31 PM
I don't do inflation.....and no it doesn't have to be with the texans.

How about this. You put $100 into a bank account today and I'll put $1 into a bank account today. If by the day Carr retires he doesn't have a Super Bowl Ring, I'll give you everything in that account. If Carr does win a Super Bowl Ring, you give me everything in your account you set aside.

It may take a while for Carr to win one, so I want to lock in todays values.

infantrycak
07-26-2006, 05:38 PM
How about this. You put $100 into a bank account today and I'll put $1 into a bank account today. If by the day Carr retires he doesn't have a Super Bowl Ring, I'll give you everything in that account. If Carr does win a Super Bowl Ring, you give me everything in your account you set aside.

It may take a while for Carr to win one, so I want to lock in todays values.

Don't make the bet harder--he said a Carr team won't even get to the SB--they don't have to win, just get there.

Geez--put me down for $10--there is no downside.