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nunusguy
09-08-2004, 10:26 AM
SD beating us would be much more likely than us beating Miami in their opener
last year (before the fact of course). Afterall, this is the NFL - everybody is really good, any given Sunday, etc. You don't get any pud openers in this league like Oklahoma, Texas, and others in college do. Would we feel devastated
with a loss, soured for the whole season. Or would it be "We'll get them next week in Detroit", this is just a small setback in the long range plan ?

TheOgre
09-08-2004, 10:38 AM
The fans will cry on this MB if we lose to the Chargers. The Fire Palmer thread will be 10 pages long. Someone will mention that Carr will have to go another year before cutting his hair. It will be ugly.

The Bolts have a good up-and-coming secondary, a stud back, and a rookie QB with some talent. Fortunately for us, they are very weak on the D-line and O-line. Their LB's are nothing to write home about either. They do have some young talented TE's and WR's. I personally think they are underrated. This team won't have a winning record, though, until they improve their two lines.

WWJD
09-08-2004, 10:45 AM
Then you get ready for Detroit.

If you allow one loss, especially the first game, to ruin your season you don't have much of a team anyway. I know it happens but not to good teams. Those teams just regroup and get about their business.

SESupergenius
09-08-2004, 10:58 AM
San Diego pounded us before, no reason they couldn't do it again.

Lucky
09-08-2004, 11:11 AM
San Diego pounded us before, no reason they couldn't do it again.
The Chargers return 6 starters from the 2002, week 2 game. The Texans return 12.

These aren't the same teams that will be playing Sunday. While any team in the NFL can win on a given Sunday, I can't see San Diego pounding anyone this year.

Blake
09-08-2004, 11:13 AM
Well, have you seen the ending to The South Park Movie? Something like that would happen if we lost to SD. A gaping hole would create itself from hell to lead an undead army on us. So it would be better if we won.

TheOgre
09-08-2004, 11:17 AM
Well, have you seen the ending to The South Park Movie? Something like that would happen if we lost to SD. A gaping hole would create itself from hell to lead an undead army on us. So it would be better if we won.

That is what the Dolphins thought last year when we went there.

Joe Texan
09-08-2004, 11:19 AM
What if a frog had wings?

What if the sky was falling?

Whats with the what if, Get real man, Get real TEXAN

TexanDave
09-08-2004, 11:21 AM
I would be very disappointed if we lost to the Chargers but win or lose, one game won't make or break our season. There will be games we lose that we should have won and there will be games we win that we should have lost.

OzzO
09-08-2004, 11:25 AM
Tell ya what, all we can do as fans is be as loud as we can and work that home field atmosphere. All the TEXANS can do is their job and not overlook anyone, any week. Have the faith in the coaches and players

I'm sure both groups (fans and players) will do the best we can and make it a helluva season opening regardless.

blockhead83
09-08-2004, 11:36 AM
I would be very disappointed if we lost to the Chargers but win or lose, one game won't make or break our season. There will be games we lose that we should have won and there will be games we win that we should have lost.
I follow this line of thought. Honestly, it's gonna suck if we lose to San Diego to put it succinctly. On the other hand, it will in no way ruin the season. There's atleast 16 games to be played, this is only number 1.

Ben
09-08-2004, 11:38 AM
I agree with what most have said thus far. I think we're going to win on Sunday but if we don't, move the hell on. It's just one game and that's what being a professional organization is all about.

V Man
09-08-2004, 11:42 AM
The Chargers return 6 starters from the 2002, week 2 game. The Texans return 12.

These aren't the same teams that will be playing Sunday. While any team in the NFL can win on a given Sunday, I can't see San Diego pounding anyone this year.


True Points, we were a young team on its first road game verses a very veterian defense. This year it is the total opposite, we have the experience in the trenchs, and they don't. So it is possible, anything is possible in the NFL, but I don't see it happening. And if it does, look out Detroit you going to have some upset Texans on their hands. :twocents:

El Tejano
09-08-2004, 11:44 AM
I will say this. We have the best coach in the league, in my opinion, when it comes to opening day games. Any coach that can get his team who never played before, or goes to another stadium where the opponent hasn't lost an opening day game in nearly a decade is you coach, you can win alot of opening day games.

My point is, Capers will have us prepared and ready to win. I am sure the rest of the team also remembers what happened the last time we met with the Chargers and they remember what happened the last time they were looked over. That is really what comforts me. Other than that, I want our defense to show up big in this game because contrary to what some believe, Brees has and can play winning football.

rittenhouserobz
09-08-2004, 11:49 AM
I wonder if NE thought the season was over after losing to Buffalo in the opener last year. Professionals know how to approach that kind of setback.

geofb
09-08-2004, 11:57 AM
If we lose to SD, starting the season 0-3 would then be a distinct possibility...not pretty.

Hervoyel
09-08-2004, 12:43 PM
In the two years the Texans have been playing I've seen 23 losses. One more on Sunday against the Chargers won't drastically alter my world much. The past two seasons we've started with a big win and ended with a "death march" towards the end of the year. I'd gladly trade the expected win against San Diego for a 3-1 last quarter of the season. Gladly.

It's a game we can win. Capers usually has the Texans ready to play in week 1. We (and the Chargers) are going to be seeing DD for 4 quarters and he's looked great this year in the limited amount of time he's been out there. Carr has also been sharp. I expect a win. Don't worry about a loss until it happens and then put it past you. 16 games is a long season and week one means very little by the end of it. Sure you might look back and say "Man, if we'd just taken care of business against San Diego then we'd have finished at 8-8 for the first time (or 9-7, dare I say 10-6 and in the playoffs) but it's not something to dwell on. The Patriots I believe looked terrible last year on opening day against the Bills but the Bills were watching those same Patriots win another Super Bowl when it was all over so don't put too much stock in it.

It's not a problem though because we're winning that game.

TheOgre
09-08-2004, 12:54 PM
I think we beat the Chargers to start the season and end with a win against the Browns. What happens in between is anyone's guess. I'm realistically hoping for an 8-8 season.

SBTexans08
09-08-2004, 01:02 PM
If San Diego beats us Sunday....I'll be really pissed! :mad:

Then again....maybe that will break our bad luck since we start the season with a bang and end it with dissapointment.

:idea: Maybe this year if we start bad.....we might end it on a positive note....playoffs anyone?

Doug
09-08-2004, 01:42 PM
If San Diego beats us Sunday....I'll be really pissed! :mad:

Then again....maybe that will break our bad luck since we start the season with a bang and end it with dissapointment.

:idea: Maybe this year if we start bad.....we might end it on a positive note....playoffs anyone?

I agree. We've started the last two years with a win and didn't have much of a season. Maybe if we lose the first game we'll do great.

El Tejano
09-08-2004, 02:17 PM
The players want to win 2 in a row so they are really trying to get that covered early in the season. We will be victorious!!!!!

BigDTexansFan
09-08-2004, 06:46 PM
San Diego pounded us before, no reason they couldn't do it again.


try this.......it is not 2002, this is 2004

Defense is better, we have a legitimate running game now with DD and Tony H, their D last season was abysmal.

:boxing:

aj.
09-08-2004, 07:35 PM
If San Diego beats us we'll be 0-1. If we beat them, we'll be 1-0. That's kind of how I look at it.

texasguy346
09-08-2004, 07:37 PM
I think I'll contribue a "Yogi type" saying. If SD beats us on Sunday then they'll probably have more points than us.

Grid
09-08-2004, 07:42 PM
wouldnt bother me in the least. From what ive seen of the Texans so far, we seem to play better when our back is against a wall. I think we are gonna be 10x better at midseason than we will be at the beggining. And I dunno.. maybe it will take a loss to remind us that we ARE struggling and that we WILL need to get 150% to show people how good we really are.

On the other hand.. we spent the last two seasons getting no respect.. and I know how bad we want it. I dont think anyone is coming into the opener with a big head and I think the team wants to keep their opening day record.

and dont forget that we kept up with and beat teams alot better than San Diego last season.. and our offense is returning stronger than ever.. and our defense.. while it did look a little wimpy in the preaseason, is, in fact, NOT wimpy in the least.

its preseason.. we arent throwing everything at them.. we arent showing our hand.. and I dont think we had all our starters out there at once at ANY time.. and one person CAN make a big difference.

Keep the faith.. we know how good we are and San Diego is gonna find out this sunday.

TexanExile
09-08-2004, 07:47 PM
I'm not big on the "respect" thing, as I've said before--I think it's an overrated word in sports. But here in Miami last year I witnessed the damage to a team's confidence that comes from being beaten at home by a lesser team. I don't want the Texans to have to face Detroit with that on their minds.

Anyway, I might revise my 7-9 prediction to 6-10, but other than that it wouldn't change much for me.

ArlingtonTexan
09-08-2004, 11:09 PM
Last year the Patriots were 0-1 after a 31-0 loss. Lossing to San Deigo would be disappointing and give us plenty to talk about but the season would be far from over.

the_dork_avenger
09-08-2004, 11:12 PM
We seem to be getting alittle more respect around the nfl. if we lose to S.D. i see lots of the respect we've earned going out the window.

scourge
09-08-2004, 11:54 PM
What if SD beats us Sunday ?

all that means is that we won't be 16-0 on the season...

They'll just have to settle for 15-1 :cool:

HJam72
09-09-2004, 12:00 AM
If we lose it's OK. No big deal. We're still gonna win the Super Bowl. We just gotta replace DD, Carr, Capers, and Casserly. Then we'll be OK. :crazy:

Vinny
09-09-2004, 12:04 AM
We seem to be getting alittle more respect around the nfl. if we lose to S.D. i see lots of the respect we've earned going out the window.We are still working on that respect thing. Respect is born from reputation, and reputation is something that must be earned and built over time. We started earning national respect when we played teams like NE and Carolina tough.

Losing to the Chargers is a possiblity. They have Ladanian Tomlinson and we have the worst run defense in the NFL until proven otherwise. This is a tough league and the worst team in the league can beat the best team on a given Sunday. Heck, we won our first game ever. I don't think I'd worry too much if they beat us Sunday. I don't expect it, but I've seen stranger things happen.

aj.
09-09-2004, 06:00 AM
Not only did we play Carolina tough, we beat them.

We started earning national respect with a win on ESPN Sunday Prime Time. They reinforced that with the win at Miami last year. The Texans get plenty of national run. The no-respect thing is selective reading and listening...

CHARGERSWILLWHOOPU
09-09-2004, 10:16 AM
You should be worried about San Diego........an ol' fashion down home butt stompin is comin your way like the hurricane of the early 1900s!!

I beg of you to talk about how we sucked last year.....hehee

Our defense is alot stronger than last year, be very afraid of Igor....you will soon know who he is.......

THEPIZZ1
09-09-2004, 10:44 AM
try this.......it is not 2002, this is 2004

Defense is better, we have a legitimate running game now with DD and Tony H, their D last season was abysmal.

:boxing:


Try this...it is not 2003, this is 2004.

Doesn't that suck when your own argument is used against you?? :crazy:

Hervoyel
09-09-2004, 11:16 AM
All I am saying is that we cannot lay an egg in SD!

And I'm saying that if the Texans are IN San Diego Sunday then they're going to lose that game by forfeit. :)

Though later in the day after they've beaten the stuffing out the Chargers they can feel free to take a quick flight to San Diego and go lay as many eggs in it as they see fit. Just be back in time for practice cause the Lions are coming up.

Hervoyel
09-09-2004, 11:25 AM
Try this...it is not 2003, this is 2004.

Doesn't that suck when your own argument is used against you?? :crazy:

Good point. Not completely solid but a good point nevertheless. I think you should note however that the difference in time for your defense is one season and a season in which you've recently made a scheme change to it on top of that. His statement about the Texans improved running game is obviously true though.

In 2002 when the Chargers spent a Sunday afternoon planting David Carr all over the field The Texans couldn't run the ball to save their (or Carr's) life. That's just not the case anymore. Being able to run the ball helped drop 40 sacks off of our allowed total last season. In two years we've gained a running game and an improved offensive line. In that same interval the Chargers have sunk to the bottom of the league.

I hope you have the personnel to play the 3-4 because when you don't (We saw it last season when injuries put us in a bad spot) it's ugly as sin. Actually now that I think about it no I don't. I hope you don't have the people to pull it off. It will be nice to see someone else get that end of the stick for a change after the 2003 "Texans Death March".

DominatorDavis
09-09-2004, 12:13 PM
You should be worried about San Diego........an ol' fashion down home butt stompin is comin your way like the hurricane of the early 1900s!!

I beg of you to talk about how we sucked last year.....hehee

Our defense is alot stronger than last year, be very afraid of Igor....you will soon know who he is.......


Texans 26 - Chargers 14

Last year was in the past - its 2004. I'll be back here Sunday night. We will win Sunday's game at Reliant. Your backers are no better than Miami's last year, or Carolina's, or Buffalo's. Igor isn't scaring anybody either. Please. Especially the offensive line.

Tomlinson however is another issue all together. He'll probably have to run the ball 54-55 times on Sunday.

HA

Tulip
09-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Haven't we been favored in two games before? I remember Cincinatti in 2002, when we had the tar beaten out of us. Then there was at least one last year. Anyone remember?

I'm not usually superstitious, but I don't like being 5 point favorites.



(Note: Exactly HOW "family friendly" is this board? I think even a G-rated movie could get the word I put in instead of "tar". Seriously.)

THEPIZZ1
09-09-2004, 12:27 PM
Good point. Not completely solid but a good point nevertheless. I think you should note however that the difference in time for your defense is one season and a season in which you've recently made a scheme change to it on top of that. His statement about the Texans improved running game is obviously true though.

In 2002 when the Chargers spent a Sunday afternoon planting David Carr all over the field The Texans couldn't run the ball to save their (or Carr's) life. That's just not the case anymore. Being able to run the ball helped drop 40 sacks off of our allowed total last season. In two years we've gained a running game and an improved offensive line. In that same interval the Chargers have sunk to the bottom of the league.

I hope you have the personnel to play the 3-4 because when you don't (We saw it last season when injuries put us in a bad spot) it's ugly as sin. Actually now that I think about it no I don't. I hope you don't have the people to pull it off. It will be nice to see someone else get that end of the stick for a change after the 2003 "Texans Death March".

Fair enough. We don't know at this point whether the new 3-4 defense will help us or hurt us yet. But luckily, the games are played on the field (not on message boards), so we will find out soon enough.

And I'm going to help myself to some of your popcorn :popcorn:

THEPIZZ1
09-09-2004, 12:34 PM
I've stayed away from this dumb Post, for days and just because
I got time to blow before tonight's game, I made the mistake of
reading all the posts. To the glomers, stay away from the pot.
NUN, make this your last " What if the sky falls? post " But, to ans. the dumbest question asked this Year. I'll loose my ranch
because that's what I bet on the Texans wining the game. :boxing:

Betting the ranch on the Texans would be dummer than this thread for sure.....

texasguy346
09-09-2004, 12:36 PM
I think we were favorites against Atlanta last year. By like 3 pts or something. We won that game though. I remember the Cincinatti debacle too. I don't mind being the favorites, especially against the Chargers in a season opener at home. If this game were in the middle or late in the season, and the Texans were favorites then I might be a little more concerned about it due to the players likely overlooking the Chargers. But since it's a season opener I have no doubt that they will be prepared for everything they face out there on the field, and as for the "butt whoopin". That's highly unlikely given your coaches inability to name a starter till Monday. What kind of depth can you possibly have when you can't determine if a rookie QB or a 2nd Round pick veteran is better for your team? LT is your only player, and we all saw how wonderfully that worked out for you last season. Put him on a team with a new defensive scheme, and weaker O and D Lines and what does it all add up to? Not much.

Jon Moxon
09-09-2004, 12:38 PM
If The Texans lose to the Chargers on Sunday...I'll be broke! :thumbup

Meloy
09-09-2004, 01:16 PM
I am more concerned that we blow them out and then lose the next. Slow steady growth is what I want to see.

BigDTexansFan
09-09-2004, 07:00 PM
Try this...it is not 2003, this is 2004.

Doesn't that suck when your own argument is used against you?? :crazy:


NO what really sucks is when someone uses your own argument, because they ain't smart enuff to think of their own

BTW genius I know it is 2004 just make sure you what year it is when the lights go out in San Diego

:rofl:

SHOCKU
09-10-2004, 08:58 PM
The fans will cry on this MB if we lose to the Chargers. The Fire Palmer thread will be 10 pages long. Someone will mention that Carr will have to go another year before cutting his hair. It will be ugly.

The Bolts have a good up-and-coming secondary, a stud back, and a rookie QB with some talent. Fortunately for us, they are very weak on the D-line and O-line. Their LB's are nothing to write home about either. They do have some young talented TE's and WR's. I personally think they are underrated. This team won't have a winning record, though, until they improve their two lines.

The chargers D-line and LB's leads the league this preseason in sacks so far and most were while the first string was in.I'm sorry,what was that about the D-line And LB's being weak???

texasguy346
09-10-2004, 11:55 PM
The chargers D-line and LB's leads the league this preseason in sacks so far and most were while the first string was in.I'm sorry,what was that about the D-line And LB's being weak???

Ah the inevitable preseason reference. So if we go by preseason then the Patriots will stink it up, and the Bengals and Jags will be better than them. You know you're in bad shape when all you can do is reference the preseason. Good luck with the rest of the season because you guys are going to need it.

SHOCKU
09-11-2004, 01:59 AM
Ah the inevitable preseason reference. So if we go by preseason then the Patriots will stink it up, and the Bengals and Jags will be better than them. You know you're in bad shape when all you can do is reference the preseason. Good luck with the rest of the season because you guys are going to need it.

You guy's as well.You also forgot where I said when the first unit was out.Let's not just take what we want to hear, most of there sacks were in the first qtr.

texasguy346
09-11-2004, 02:12 AM
Ron Dayne led the NFL in rushing during the preseason. It's the preseason, and the stats don't mean much. If so then DD would average nearly 7 yds a carry if u base it on his performance against the 1st team defense of Denver. Yet we won't fling preseason stats at you. We prefer to live in the realm of reality during the regular season. When you have to resort to using preseason stats it's not a good sign for your team.

SDBoltz
09-11-2004, 02:57 AM
lets be real some things in the preseason matter some things dont. If LT's ypc is 1.3 yards in the pre season it doesnt matter... if your starting line gives up 4 sacks in the 3rd or 4th pre season game... it matters... if your starting D gets 4 or 5 sacks in the 3rd and 4th preseason game it matters. If your starting QB completes 68 percent or 15 percent of his passes it matters. If your 4th string defense gives up 2 td's in garbage time who cares. Alot of things in preseason matter some dont

texan279
09-11-2004, 03:00 AM
Good point SD. IMO anytime 1st string goes against 1st string it matters.

SDBoltz
09-11-2004, 03:07 AM
lets be real some things in the preseason matter some things dont. If LT's ypc is 1.3 yards in the pre season it doesnt matter... if your starting line gives up 4 sacks in the 3rd or 4th pre season game... it matters... if your starting D gets 4 or 5 sacks in the 3rd and 4th preseason game it matters. If your starting QB completes 68 percent or 15 percent of his passes it matters. If your 4th string defense gives up 2 td's in garbage time who cares. Alot of things in preseason matter some dont

HJam72
09-11-2004, 06:29 AM
The only things that matter in preseason are who gets hurt, who gets cut, and how little the cheerleaders are wearing. It's time for the real thing.

DFAN
09-11-2004, 10:26 AM
SD beating us would be much more likely than us beating Miami in their opener
last year (before the fact of course). Afterall, this is the NFL - everybody is really good, any given Sunday, etc. You don't get any pud openers in this league like Oklahoma, Texas, and others in college do. Would we feel devastated
with a loss, soured for the whole season. Or would it be "We'll get them next week in Detroit", this is just a small setback in the long range plan ?


The sky will be falling in the city of Houston. Talk shows and MB's will be full of fans calling for Palmers head just like every lost. Maybe even Capers if the Bolts were to beat them.

Fiddy
09-11-2004, 11:06 AM
The sky will be falling in the city of Houston. Talk shows and MB's will be full of fans calling for Palmers head just like every lost.I hate to agree with Cowboy fans, but DFAN is right. There will be a 'Fire Palmer' thread created excatly 1 second after the game and 2 seconds later it would have 4 pages of replys...

Vinny
09-11-2004, 01:19 PM
Heck, we have already had a 'fire Palmer' thread and we have played exactly zero real football so far in 2004.

texansfan88
09-11-2004, 01:23 PM
If san diego beats us tommorow, their record will be 1-0, and ours will be 0-1.

Any more common sense questions?

RTP2110
09-11-2004, 01:46 PM
The first team vs. first team in the pre-season argument is invalid. Even though teams are using thier "first team" usually all of the starters are still not in. AJ missed 1 game DD missed 2 games, Walker missed 2, Payne missed 3, Babin missed 1, Dunta missed 1, Foreman played 1 game with the "second team." Pre-season "first teams" are not regular season first teams.

HJam72
09-11-2004, 02:03 PM
I think they should fire Palmer just because we're tired of it coming up on the message boards, already. :rolleyes:

texasguy346
09-11-2004, 06:37 PM
I echo what RTP said above, and I'll add this. There is no gameplanning going into the preseason games, and according to Casserly the Texans didn't even gameplan for the Broncos in their 3rd preseason game. The 3rd preseason game is generally the one game that teams plan for, and in this case the Texans didn't. Play calling on both sides of the ball is vanilla, and thus if you expect to have much improved pressure on the QB based on a preseason game then you're sadly mistaken. When teams get time to gameplan, and watch tape against a team they can work on blitz pick up, and pass protection for that particular team. Both teams get time to find a weakness on the opposing team, and exploit it. Given the Texans' record in Season Openers I'll have to side with us on this one. The pass rush in the 3-4 predominantly comes from the OLB, and I don't see anyone on your team that is a sack threat. You have a new defense system in place, and you expect it to pay immediate dividends against a potentially potent offense that is in its 3rd year under the same system. If we had a 1st year OC, and you had a 1st year DC then I could see a close game. But this isn't the case in this game, and I don't forsee the Texans having any trouble with the SD defense.

DoCt3rJ
09-12-2004, 12:52 AM
We only have to do one thing to beat them, and thats stop LT. We also gotta watch out for Gates too, we get those 2 guys out of the game, and it could be a shutout.

SDBoltz
09-12-2004, 01:08 AM
noone can stop LT. Not even the best defense. 85 bears couldnt stop LT. He ran for 105 on the ravens D what do you think he is going to do to yours. and if you stack 8 and 9 in the box your not going to stop Gates. It will be interesting to see how the texans gameplan for these 2

ArlingtonTexan
09-12-2004, 08:43 AM
Heck, we have already had a 'fire Palmer' thread and we have played exactly zero real football so far in 2004.

One day these guys will realize that execution has the problem with the texans not poor play calling. If DD runs 1500, AJ catches for 1200 and Carr throws 3300 then palmer becomes a genius again.

BTW, this game makes me nervous. smells too much like a texans should win. Expect a real close one with enough wrong for us to complain about.

edo783
09-12-2004, 03:13 PM
4 Turn overs.....we lose.

THEPIZZ1
09-12-2004, 05:40 PM
Sweet. That was an awesome game.

THEPIZZ1
09-13-2004, 05:53 PM
Not that I'm a betting man.. ( lol ) but just in this one case
I'm willing to put up my clear title, to the car I Love.. As
my ranch is already on the line, and I seem to be " Dummer than this thread." This is your chance to show
how much smarter you are than this old cowpoke is and
enjoy a set of great wheels. PM me, and I'll give you a shot
a me. You can have all, or what ever part you want to cover
on the Chargers beating the Texans. :thumbup

Nice...I didn't see this post until just now. I wouldn't have made a bet anyway, cause I'm not the betting type, but it would have been nice to get a new car :thumbup

THEPIZZ1
09-13-2004, 05:54 PM
PS...Who did the ranch end up going to?

SDBoltz
11-24-2004, 02:59 PM
The Chargers return 6 starters from the 2002, week 2 game. The Texans return 12.

These aren't the same teams that will be playing Sunday. While any team in the NFL can win on a given Sunday, I can't see San Diego pounding anyone this year.

Boy were you wrong lucky. Who says that we are weak on oline and dline and in the kicking game. Like Rookies can't perform?? Big Ben Shane Olivea and Nick hardwick on the chargers line have allowed the fewest sacks in the league. Then thereis igor olshansky one of the biggest monsters i have ever seen coming out of college. Young teams can win as the Chargers have proven and will prove again next year

SDBoltz
11-24-2004, 03:02 PM
Must NOT!! Will NOT Happen!!!!!!!!!!

WE have more depth and power in ALL POSITIONS! There is noway SD can beat us except we &*^%%^ it up!

If it does happen......we GOTZ TO FIRE ONE OF THE COACHES!!!!


lol:

Hey I am not kidding! SD is in disarray and if we cant beat a team like that? Then there is no hope for us.

boy were you wrong. We knew what we were doing the entire offseason.
:coolb:

TexansTrueFan
11-24-2004, 04:57 PM
oh lord haha still gloating over tha win huh,,gotta let it go sometime buddy !