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joetexan
07-11-2006, 08:46 PM
http://www.clanram.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18209

:shots: Wali Lundy better be a stud........b/c Domanick still apparently isn't healthy, Antowain Smith isn't the answer, and isn't Morency in the dog house?

TexansSeminole
07-11-2006, 08:49 PM
I think the running stats for the Texans this year will be very spread out.

CloakNNNdagger
07-11-2006, 09:23 PM
http://www.clanram.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18209

and isn't Morency in the dog house?

And don't forget his plantar fasciitis, which many times is a chronic unrelenting and debilitating problem which has done in many a fine player. That's the injury that, unknownst to most, took Oiler CB Steve Brown from top of the radar to a "burned" specialist in his last 2 years. Brown was dogged unmercifully by the fans for declining performance problem he just had no control over.


I would not put that much faith in a 2 week local talk show presentation that has not hit the mainstream media. And by the time, if that time ever comes, that Bennet is traded, things could change 10 times over.

Grid
07-11-2006, 09:35 PM
eh.. I dont think our staff is worried about going into the season without a "set" running back. I cant remember how many times the Broncos have started the season with no one and had a budding star by the end of the year.

NoBullTexan
07-11-2006, 09:40 PM
Yeah, I feel the same way. We will be ok with our RBs. And why can't Antwain Smith do it for us in the meantime? He stepped in pretty well for the Saints last year when McAllister went down. He is only 32, and keeps himself in excellent shape. And what the heck IS plantar fasciitis?

The Pencil Neck
07-11-2006, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I feel the same way. We will be ok with our RBs. And why can't Antwain Smith do it for us in the meantime? He stepped in pretty well for the Saints last year when McAllister went down. He is only 32, and keeps himself in excellent shape. And what the heck IS plantar fasciitis?

Plantar Fascitis is like an ice-pick in your foot. It starts off as wear on the connective tissue in the arch and frequently ends up with bone spurs in the ankle area.

[EDIT: I originally said "muscles" instead of "connective tissue" which is worng.]

rams-rule
07-12-2006, 01:44 AM
to come to www.clanram.com any time. we always love to have new and exciting members. My user name there is Rams#1.

AFD1717
07-12-2006, 09:56 AM
Yeah, I feel the same way. We will be ok with our RBs. And why can't Antwain Smith do it for us in the meantime? He stepped in pretty well for the Saints last year when McAllister went down. He is only 32, and keeps himself in excellent shape. And what the heck IS plantar fasciitis?
A. Smith got in the doghouse in NE because he kept failing the conditioning tests and reported to camp fat every year.

bigbrewster2000
07-12-2006, 11:12 AM
http://www.clanram.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18209

:shots: Wali Lundy better be a stud........b/c Domanick still apparently isn't healthy, Antowain Smith isn't the answer, and isn't Morency in the dog house?
I remeber reading this story 2 weeks ago. Old news. Was aleady talked about on that other ridiculously long thread.:deadhorse

El Tejano
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
I thin N.O. is going to bite the bullet this year and keep him and then trade him next year.

wrestler4life
07-12-2006, 11:15 AM
I saw a replay of the USC - Alabama game from 05 last night. I am sure that you can all guess what I was thinking watching the Saints new weapon just obliterate the razorbacks.
Almost made me regret getting Mario, who I am excited about.
Wow- he (RB) was a stud

Koolbrz
07-12-2006, 11:40 AM
eh.. I dont think our staff is worried about going into the season without a "set" running back. I cant remember how many times the Broncos have started the season with no one and had a budding star by the end of the year.


I know one thing is for sure...we are not the Broncos!!! We need a set running back at the start of the season. IMO we should have drafted a back when we had the chance. Did not have to be Bush either. Now, the team is depending on someone that is on the downside of his career, trying to trade for a player that has a history of injuries, and who's #1 running back is not completely 100%. I know we did draft Lundy...so what!! We should have tried to get someone like a Deangelo Williams, Joseph Addai...etc. Someone who could come in and create something. Now we are gonna have to hear all kinds of excuses if the running game cant get going. Oh wait...Maybe we can hand the ball of to Mario Williams, he is a freak and if he is supposed to be better than Peppers, he should be able to run the ball. Considering that Peppers is lining up at wide reciever on some short yardage plays near the end zone...Just a thought.

El Tejano
07-12-2006, 11:54 AM
We were making attempts to trade with the Bears so that we could get Deangelo Williams but Carolina picked that trade off of us and we got perhaps a better deal in LB Demeco Ryans.

TexansJunkE
07-12-2006, 12:11 PM
Why are some hitting the panic switch in mid July? We will do just fine this year in the rushing dept, quote me on that! In the system that the Texans plan on running Olandis Gary rushed for 1000+ yards. I think we have very capable backs to do a stand up job, not great but respectable.

fan no matter what
07-12-2006, 12:28 PM
hopefully davis is just playing it safe and making sure he completly recovers i think he will be ready for the start of the season. as for the other guys they will be able to handle the load backing him up. we will be fine. we are going to be going deep any way to a tight end or one of our two receiver threats.
:twocents:

U4ikrob
07-12-2006, 12:40 PM
I saw a replay of the USC - Alabama game from 05 last night. I am sure that you can all guess what I was thinking watching the Saints new weapon just obliterate the razorbacks.
Almost made me regret getting Mario, who I am excited about.
Wow- he (RB) was a stud


[cough cough] that was Arkansas - not Bama. Otherwise you might have seen a much different game with USC going up against Bama's #1 overall Defense from last year.

Personally I'm looking forward to Mario, D-Wreck and the Texans D hopefully taking Mr. Bush down a few notches this year.

johndoe
07-12-2006, 12:44 PM
how many runningbacks do the texans plan on carrying on gameday?isnt it usualy 3 or 4

CloakNNNdagger
07-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Plantar Fascitis is like an ice-pick in your foot. It starts off as wear on the connective tissue in the arch and frequently ends up with bone spurs in the ankle area.

[EDIT: I originally said "muscles" instead of "connective tissue" which is worng.]

Sorta close.......The heel bone spur is seen under the heel bone and seems to be seen more commonly in patients who have plantar fasciitis, but is not caused by the fasciitis. About 70% of patients who have plantar fasciitis are seen on x-ray to have a heel spur.
However, heel spurs are also seen in patients without plantar fasciitis; about 50% of middle aged adults have at least a small heel spur seen on the x-ray of their foot. Furthermore, the heel spur is actually located in a place different from the fibrous tissue that is inflamed in plantar fasciitis. The heel spur is not located at the insertion of the plantar fascia, as was once thought. The spur is not caused by the fasciitis and usually has very little clinical implications..................but the plantar fasciitis is a severe inflammation of the gristle covering of the bottom of the foot, many times caused by micro or gross tearing of that structure........and your description of the "ice pick in the foot" is one of the best descriptions I've ever read! Whether treated with orthotics, steroid injections (talk about painful in that particular area) or, as last resort, surgery, the problem very commonly progresses to debilitation, especially in a football player where pressure and stretching trauma and thus reinjury cannot usually be avoided..........and that's why I'm concerned about Morency.

Lucky
07-12-2006, 01:12 PM
...the problem very commonly progresses to debilitation, especially in a football player where pressure and stretching trauma and thus reinjury cannot usually be avoided..........and that's why I'm concerned about Morency.
Have you heard anything that would lead you to believe that Morency had this condition prior to being drafted by the Texans? Is plantar fasciitis caused by a single event? Or is it the result of long-term wear? Maybe footwear related?

wrestler4life
07-12-2006, 01:12 PM
[cough cough] that was Arkansas - not Bama. Otherwise you might have seen a much different game with USC going up against Bama's #1 overall Defense from last year.

Personally I'm looking forward to Mario, D-Wreck and the Texans D hopefully taking Mr. Bush down a few notches this year.
You are right. Sorry about that.
Still, pretty impresive. But, I will say that indeed he did not get touched until he got about 5-10 yards past LOS.

Porky
07-12-2006, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I feel the same way. We will be ok with our RBs. And why can't Antwain Smith do it for us in the meantime? He stepped in pretty well for the Saints last year when McAllister went down. He is only 32, and keeps himself in excellent shape. And what the heck IS plantar fasciitis?


Only 32? For a RB, 32 is downright ancient. Only a spare few are still anywhere even close to the top of their game at 32. Emmitt Smith comes to mind, but they are sparse. Only 32 is not a good retort!

U4ikrob
07-12-2006, 01:24 PM
You are right. Sorry about that.
Still, pretty impresive. But, I will say that indeed he did not get touched until he got about 5-10 yards past LOS.

Bah - NP - Just wanted to make sure you were watching the right game. I'm a long time Tide fan so had to take up for my boys!

Bush is a pretty special player for sure, i'm just thinking we got a few special defensive players who might want to "Welcome him" to the NFL right away. It's just too bad we dont play the "Saints" this year.

:chicken:[Bush] meet the Texans gang
:mario:[Mario] :bowser:[D-Wreck] :hunter:[D-Rob]

trane
07-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Why are some hitting the panic switch in mid July? We will do just fine this year in the rushing dept, quote me on that! In the system that the Texans plan on running Olandis Gary rushed for 1000+ yards. I think we have very capable backs to do a stand up job, not great but respectable.

It may not be time to hit the panic switch but it is reason to be concerned. Your best back is hurt. Then you have a past his prime veteran and an inexperienced second year player as backups. Plus, a fifth round pick you know nothing about. Factor in, the O-line is still learning the scheme and is not effective enough to just plug in just any RB and hope he will be successful.

CloakNNNdagger
07-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Have you heard anything that would lead you to believe that Morency had this condition prior to being drafted by the Texans? Is plantar fasciitis caused by a single event? Or is it the result of long-term wear? Maybe footwear related?


I'm not aware of any pre-existing problems that Morency had with this. As I mentioned before, this can be a product of repeated micro-tears OR single outright tear, cycled with inflammation.

Found a good link that should answer your questions in more depth.
Causes (http://www.webmd.com/hw/foot_problems/hw114476.asp)

Seņor Stan
07-12-2006, 06:51 PM
Sorta close.......The heel bone spur is seen under the heel bone and seems to be seen more commonly in patients who have plantar fasciitis, but is not caused by the fasciitis. About 70% of patients who have plantar fasciitis are seen on x-ray to have a heel spur.
However, heel spurs are also seen in patients without plantar fasciitis; about 50% of middle aged adults have at least a small heel spur seen on the x-ray of their foot. Furthermore, the heel spur is actually located in a place different from the fibrous tissue that is inflamed in plantar fasciitis. The heel spur is not located at the insertion of the plantar fascia, as was once thought. The spur is not caused by the fasciitis and usually has very little clinical implications..................but the plantar fasciitis is a severe inflammation of the gristle covering of the bottom of the foot, many times caused by micro or gross tearing of that structure........and your description of the "ice pick in the foot" is one of the best descriptions I've ever read! Whether treated with orthotics, steroid injections (talk about painful in that particular area) or, as last resort, surgery, the problem very commonly progresses to debilitation, especially in a football player where pressure and stretching trauma and thus reinjury cannot usually be avoided..........and that's why I'm concerned about Morency.

I battled plantar fasciitis for about three years. I would get cortizone shots in my heels about once every 3 months. They worked at first, but they got gradually less effective. The shots were the one of the most painful things I have ever experienced.

There is a non invasive surgical procedure using a device called an OssaTron.

http://www.ossatron.com/

It uses ultra sonic waves to break up scar tissue and restore blood flow. I had the procedure done about 3 years ago and have not experienced any heel pain since.

Morency needs to look into getting this. That and some cleats.

CloakNNNdagger
07-12-2006, 08:54 PM
I battled plantar fasciitis for about three years. I would get cortizone shots in my heels about once every 3 months. They worked at first, but they got gradually less effective. The shots were the one of the most painful things I have ever experienced.

There is a non invasive surgical procedure using a device called an OssaTron.

http://www.ossatron.com/

It uses ultra sonic waves to break up scar tissue and restore blood flow. I had the procedure done about 3 years ago and have not experienced any heel pain since.

Morency needs to look into getting this. That and some cleats.

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This device if I remember was FDA approved sometime in 2000. The clinical trials revealed that about 2/3rds of the patients treated by this mode were improved. The point that was never really publicized was that they used a sham machine to create "controls." These sham vibrators produced improvement in approximately 50% of the patients.

Today, advertisements for this device overbill with 80% success rates. The clinical trials were not tested on professional athletes who continue daily trauma to their feet. In fact, following treatments, recommendations are routinely made to "care" for the feet to avoid reinjury.........not very likely in an NFL player.

It certainly is not a bad suggestion as an option that can be pursued, although understand that even though the risks are reasonably minimal, there have been patients that have had their tears worsened (extended), and others that had residual numbness of the bottom of their feet. This is like a diabetic that can sustain major injuries in this area, not appreciate it, it gets infected, and next thing you know parts die and fall off.

CloakNNNdagger
07-12-2006, 09:41 PM
All sorts of reports will be cropping up until all is said and done.

CAMP CONFIDENTIAL: Expect the Dolphins to make a run at Saints RB Michael Bennett late in camp. The team already has talked to the Saints, and it will become obvious as camp goes on that the Dolphins need someone better than Sammy Morris to back up Ronnie Brown.link (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=106729)

Bearfan Blue and Orange
07-13-2006, 09:04 AM
I think it will be done very soon that Bennet goes to the RAMS since now Faulk has been placed on IR for the year.

http://news.footballguys.com/new/blogger.php

TexansJunkE
07-13-2006, 10:25 AM
It may not be time to hit the panic switch but it is reason to be concerned. Your best back is hurt. Then you have a past his prime veteran and an inexperienced second year player as backups. Plus, a fifth round pick you know nothing about. Factor in, the O-line is still learning the scheme and is not effective enough to just plug in just any RB and hope he will be successful.

I understand that, but they are not in TC yet. Let's see what happens then and I'm sure if needed there will be a trade.:lightbulb:

Buzz
07-13-2006, 06:13 PM
Oh wait...Maybe we can hand the ball of to Mario Williams, he is a freak and if he is supposed to be better than Peppers, he should be able to run the ball. Considering that Peppers is lining up at wide reciever on some short yardage plays near the end zone...Just a thought.

I'd love to see if Williams could handle a few plays at fullback and plow his way through the defenders for a few yards, or knock somebody on their butt after catching a short pass.

CloakNNNdagger
07-13-2006, 11:12 PM
From Times-Picayune today:

Besides preparing for the supplemental draft, Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has been fielding offers for tailback Michael Bennett, but the proposals have "not been good enough yet."
link (http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-24/115279180699340.xml&coll=1)