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texflex513
06-29-2006, 10:40 AM
Im not really an x's and o's guy so tell me Is it a requirement for our wideouts to be superior blockers for our running game to flourish? And how good are AJ and EM at blocking?

AFD1717
06-29-2006, 10:45 AM
I'm not a brilliant Xs and Os guy either, but I do know that long runs are usually a function of WRs blocking DBs. Typically you want your RB to be able to outrun LBs and D-linemen, but the DBs catch them from behind if the WRs don't block. I would assume that WR blocking on the playside is pretty important in this Zone Scheme because it is about blocking an area and operating in space, but we should probably get Texans Chick or somebody to give us a better answer.

(Welcome to the board, by the way)

michaelm
06-29-2006, 10:48 AM
I'm not sure that its necessary to have good blockers at WR for us to 'flourish' in the running game, but to maximize the potential of any running game it is obviously better to have good blocking at that position.
I believe that we will have exceptional blocking from our wideouts this year from WR1 to WR3.
I don't have a hard time at all imagining that we will have among the very best blocking receiver corps in the league.

HOU-TEX
06-29-2006, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't say superior but I would say they'd need to be decent in order for us to get that break away run. Once the RB get's past the line and LB's the only D that's left is the secondary. So with that being said the WR's would have to be decent if not good blockers in order to get that long run for a TD.

Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers. IMO

wrestler4life
06-29-2006, 11:08 AM
Yes. For the running game to flourish, you must have good blocking recievers. DB's are responsible for turning the run back to the inside where the bigger guys are, and safeties are big run stoppers as well. Without good blocking on those guys, most runs would have to go through the middle, which is the heart of the defense.

Runner
06-29-2006, 11:11 AM
Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers.

Yes they are, if they have the attitude to block. That has as much to do with it as size.

jerek
06-29-2006, 11:16 AM
Yes they are, if they have the attitude to block. That has as much to do with it as size.

True. All you're really expected to do as a WR is just go get in the way. That's more than a lot of WR's do on most plays. That's attitude more than it is physical specifications.

HOU-TEX
06-29-2006, 11:28 AM
Yea, I've even seen Randy Moss get in the way of (block) a couple DB's.:hunter:

real
06-29-2006, 11:36 AM
In the Zone offense especially, the WR's won't always be blocking the DB's...Alot of times they will just be simply running them out of the play...The reason for this is to make the zone play actions, and bootlegs look the same as the runs...But of course once the DB's recognize run it would help if the WR's could put a body on someone...

edo783
06-29-2006, 11:46 AM
It's important if your looking for more than a 5-7 yard run and fortunatly both our starting WR are pretty solid blockers. In fact, AJ said a year or two ago, that he really likes to slam it to a DB.

JohnGalt
06-29-2006, 12:09 PM
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texflex513
06-29-2006, 12:13 PM
thanks for the feedback guys

Hulk75
06-29-2006, 12:36 PM
They are both good at blocking, Dre comming out of college they said loved to block.

MorKnolle
06-29-2006, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't say superior but I would say they'd need to be decent in order for us to get that break away run. Once the RB get's past the line and LB's the only D that's left is the secondary. So with that being said the WR's would have to be decent if not good blockers in order to get that long run for a TD.

Our WR's are most definetly big enough to be good blockers. IMO

I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.

HOU-TEX
06-29-2006, 02:11 PM
I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.

That brings up a question I have. I remember a break away run against the titans a couple years ago by DD and he was chased down from behind about 30 yds downfield. Among the newly aquired RB's we have, is there one that might be able to out run the DB's once past the secondary?

MorKnolle
06-29-2006, 02:13 PM
I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.

That brings up a question I have. I remember a break away run against the titans a couple years ago by DD and he was chased down from behind about 30 yds downfield. Among the newly aquired RB's we have, is there one that might be able to out run the DB's once past the secondary?

Wali Lundy is faster than Davis, but I don't know if he'll outrun the majority of CBs in the league, very few RBs do, just depends if he can outrun everyone else and break the CBs tackle.

texflex513
06-29-2006, 02:25 PM
read somewhere that chris taylor is pretty fast from indy not sure if he will make the roster though.

HOU-TEX
06-29-2006, 02:27 PM
What do you think the odds are of Lundy getting PT? IMO, DD might not be ready to go 100%. I would think we'd want to have the quicker of the backs in the game for the cutback then North/South speed.

texflex513
06-29-2006, 02:35 PM
The way it looks now lundy would be our guy if DD is not ready with smith being used for short yardage situations

El Tejano
06-29-2006, 02:37 PM
Rhodes has impressed with his break out speed.

MorKnolle
06-29-2006, 03:21 PM
What do you think the odds are of Lundy getting PT? IMO, DD might not be ready to go 100%. I would think we'd want to have the quicker of the backs in the game for the cutback then North/South speed.

I think Lundy will definitely be on the final roster, Chris Taylor will likely at least make the practice squad, I doubt Rhodes makes the roster. I think Lundy will get some reps, not sure how many if Davis is healthy and with Morency and Smith in there, but I'm sure they will use him in some situations, if Taylor makes the roster then he might get some reps throughout the year.

HOU-TEX
06-29-2006, 05:04 PM
I think Lundy will definitely be on the final roster, Chris Taylor will likely at least make the practice squad, I doubt Rhodes makes the roster. I think Lundy will get some reps, not sure how many if Davis is healthy and with Morency and Smith in there, but I'm sure they will use him in some situations, if Taylor makes the roster then he might get some reps throughout the year.

Sooo, you're saying every back that makes the team will get some PT. JK.

That would be great to have a rotating backfield. The defense would get a run it up the gut one play and on the very next have one that would blow right by you with speed. Sounds nice, huh?

MorKnolle
06-29-2006, 05:19 PM
Sooo, you're saying every back that makes the team will get some PT. JK.

That would be great to have a rotating backfield. The defense would get a run it up the gut one play and on the very next have one that would blow right by you with speed. Sounds nice, huh?

I don't think it will be a revolving door-type of rotation like some people have speculated on the DTs, but I think Morency will spell Davis enough to keep Davis fresh throughout the year (if that's possible), and Smith will get some carries as a change of pace power back and Lundy will probably get up to a couple carries a game as a change of pace speed back, but in terms of the main flow of the offense I think Davis and Morency will end up getting the bulk of the carries. But all of that obviously depends on their performance during training camp, injuries during the year, and the particular matchups each game.

Vambo, the Marble Eye
06-30-2006, 10:31 AM
read somewhere that chris taylor is pretty fast from indy not sure if he will make the roster though.

I have looked everywhere for a stat on how fast... anybody got an idea?

texan279
06-30-2006, 10:34 AM
Im not really an x's and o's guy so tell me Is it a requirement for our wideouts to be superior blockers for our running game to flourish? And how good are AJ and EM at blocking?

WR's blocking is not a must for a successful running game but doesn't hurt to have good blocking WR's. From what I hear from Buffalo fans, Moulds is an excellent blocker. As far as AJ, I never really paid attention to his blocking. If you watch some film of longer runs by running backs, a lot of the times you will see WR's downfield making blocks.

MorKnolle
06-30-2006, 02:11 PM
I have looked everywhere for a stat on how fast... anybody got an idea?

I thought I'd heard it was somewhere in the low 4.5s, maybe even high 4.4s, but I don't have any specific source for that info and don't remember for sure.

taxman
07-05-2006, 03:38 PM
I definitely agree, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Kevin Walter should all be good blockers for us, they are all big and pretty strong, although WRs blocking is mainly important on runs to the outside (not sure how many of those we'll see) or else on runs that end up breaking downfield.
The games I attended in Cincy, Kevin Walter made some great blocks for Rudy Johnson, and others. I actually saw him pancake a player on a outside run. That was very impressive.

WILLIEG
07-05-2006, 05:40 PM
Wali Lundy Grade: 3.45
Position: RB
Class: Sr
School: Virginia
Conference: Atlantic Coast
Ht., Wt.: 5-10, 214
40 Time: 4.55
Selected by: Houston Texans
Round 6, pick 1 (170 overall)

(Wali Lundy Virginia 5110 214 4.45)
This is his actual combine results off
off www.nfldraftcountdown.com;
The other above and below info is
from SI.com -2006 NFL Draft

Chris Taylor Grade: 3.32
Position: RB
Class: Sr
School: Indiana
Conference: Big Ten
Ht., Wt.: 5-11.5, 222
40 Time: 4.54

Damien Rhodes Grade: 3.12
Position: RB
Class: Sr
School: Syracuse
Conference: Big East
Ht., Wt.: 6-0, 207
40 Time: 4.61

newtexfan
07-05-2006, 10:17 PM
Wali Lundy, RB, Virginia
Selected: Round 6, Pick 1, Overall Pick 170 by Texans
Name: Wali Lundy
College: Virginia Number: 33
Height: 5-10 Weight: 214
Position: RB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006Wali Lundy, RB, Virginia
Selected: Round 6, Pick 1, Overall Pick 170 by Texans
Name: Wali Lundy
College: Virginia Number: 33
Height: 5-10 Weight: 214
Position: RB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.48
Projected Round: 6-7 Stock:
Rated number 23 out of 114 RB's 285 / 1731 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 5110
Weight: 214
40 Yrd Dash: 4.48
20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18
Vertical Jump: 35
Broad Jump: 9'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.37
3-Cone Drill: 7.01



40 Time: 4.48
Projected Round: 6-7 Stock:
Rated number 23 out of 114 RB's 285 / 1731 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 5110
Weight: 214
40 Yrd Dash: 4.48
20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18
Vertical Jump: 35
Broad Jump: 9'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.37
3-Cone Drill: 7.01

Wali Lundy, RB, Virginia
Selected: Round 6, Pick 1, Overall Pick 170 by Texans
Name: Wali Lundy
College: Virginia Number: 33
Height: 5-10 Weight: 214
Position: RB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.48
Projected Round: 6-7 Stock:
Rated number 23 out of 114 RB's 285 / 1731 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 5110
Weight: 214
40 Yrd Dash: 4.48
20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18
Vertical Jump: 35
Broad Jump: 9'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.37
3-Cone Drill: 7.01

newtexfan
07-05-2006, 10:21 PM
Damien Rhodes, RB, Syracuse

Name: Damien Rhodes
College: Syracuse Number: 1
Height: 6-0 Weight: 212
Position: RB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.50
Projected Round: Stock:
Rated number 31 out of 114 RB's 401 / 1731 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite:
Height: 5117
Weight: 212
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:

Dates: 03/21/06
Height: 5117
Weight: 212
40 Yrd Dash: 4.49
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 21
Vertical Jump: 37 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.37
3-Cone Drill

newtexfan
07-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Chris Taylor, RB, Indiana

Name: Chris Taylor
College: Indiana Number: 30
Height: 5-11 Weight: 223
Position: RB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.53
Projected Round: Stock:
Rated number 37 out of 114 RB's 467 / 1731 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite:
Height: 5112
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:

Dates: 03/07/06
Height: 5112
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.52
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 9'7"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.24
3-Cone Drill:

threetoedpete
07-06-2006, 01:50 AM
No, I wouldn't count on too many 50+ yard runs out of this crew. I like our stable of RB's though.