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baba ganoush
05-29-2006, 07:25 PM
Do you think it was a good choice to release Aaron Glenn last year??? I mean look who we have in place of him Phillip Buchanon...just think if we would have just stayed with Glenn our defense would have been alot better...think Aaron Glenn, Dunta Robinson, Phillip Buchanon, Demarcus Faggins and Chris McKenzie...the dominance of Glenn aloud Dunta to get more oppurtunities and he took advantage of them...even if they wanted Buchanon to start the could have moved Glenn to Saftey or something...so what do you think about the Texans desicion a few years back on not keeping Glenn???

carter08
05-29-2006, 07:29 PM
Aaron Glenn could have moved to safety. Better than CC Brown

kiwitexansfan
05-29-2006, 07:36 PM
Aaron Glenn could have moved to safety. Better than CC Brown

Just like that fabulous Marcus Coleman decision??

Marcus Coleman was known as the more physical of the two I am fairly sure, so how is putting Glen back there supposed to be an upgrade.

Add to that putting an old man back there to slowly rot away or give a young talent game time to grow and I think that your idea is crazy.

Was it wrong to release Aaron Glenn though??? Yes. I think CB is one of the most important positions in football and you don't let a good one get away.

Rightnow
05-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Just like that fabulous Marcus Coleman decision??

Marcus Coleman was known as the more physical of the two I am fairly sure, so how is putting Glen back there supposed to be an upgrade.

Add to that putting an old man back there to slowly rot away or give a young talent game time to grow and I think that your idea is crazy.

Was it wrong to release Aaron Glenn though??? Yes. I think CB is one of the most important positions in football and you don't let a good one get away.

Aaron Glenn had groin surgery that required putting in a mesh. He has never been the same since. In Dallas he was a nickle corner, probably a very good one, but just a nickle. He doesn't have the necessary speed anymore.

A rumor went around a couple of years ago that Glenn had called the NFL about some practices that violated some rules. Just a rumor, but if it is true it probably hastened his departure.

wicked_wayz
05-30-2006, 04:47 AM
Do you think it was a good choice to release Aaron Glenn last year??? I mean look who we have in place of him Phillip Buchanon...just think if we would have just stayed with Glenn our defense would have been alot better...think Aaron Glenn, Dunta Robinson, Phillip Buchanon, Demarcus Faggins and Chris McKenzie...the dominance of Glenn aloud Dunta to get more oppurtunities and he took advantage of them...even if they wanted Buchanon to start the could have moved Glenn to Saftey or something...so what do you think about the Texans desicion a few years back on not keeping Glenn???

glenn was a great CB but i don't think that he would be as effective at safety. i believe capers released him cause he wanted a more younger and faster secondary e.g. p-buc i thought it was a great idea at the time but i thought wrong cause look how p-buc turned out.... but i still got faith in him hopefully mario will make him better

TK_Gamer
05-30-2006, 05:51 AM
Aaron Glenn WAS a great CB but he was a show-boater, he thought he was so fast he could recover from cheating at any time. which when he was younger he got away with. but by the time we got him he was already down a step or 3, and we found out he couldn't make up lost ground as well as he thought he could and he let a lot of balls go over his head. then the groin injury and end of story.

TexansTrueFan
05-30-2006, 06:20 AM
personally i thought it was a bad idea to let AG go, he had a good season before we released him, sure he was getting up there in age, but him and D-Rob made a good secondary. And his age didnt affect him that much, he still could shut down recievers.

touttail
05-30-2006, 07:23 AM
Hopefully some kind of a pass rush will take some heat off of our Defensive Backs!:mario:

Bobby 119C

Runner
05-30-2006, 08:05 AM
personally i thought it was a bad idea to let AG go, he had a good season before we released him, sure he was getting up there in age, but him and D-Rob made a good secondary. And his age didnt affect him that much, he still could shut down recievers.

OK, everyone is gone now. Here is the story I heard at the time, fwiw.

It wasn't just about age and ability. He was the teams's rep to the players association. From that position he questioned the coaching staff on the intensity of pre-trainng camp practices that violated the collective bargaining agreement. Other teams in the league have gotten penalized for such violations, so they do happen. It is apparent that any sort of "speaking up" was frowned upon by the previous regime, and that weighed heavily into the keep/cut decision.

El Tejano
05-30-2006, 08:18 AM
Man the more things happen with this team the more I realize just how bad Capers and Co. were bad for our team.

Texans Horror
05-30-2006, 08:25 AM
I think P-buc has a better support system this year, so I suspect he will fair better under Smith.

Getting rid of Glenn and Sharper in one season was a bad move. It made the defense young and amputated its leadership, which is why our defense was so resoundingly awful last year. However, Glenn is prospering under Parcells and should continue to excel in his program.

thunderkyss
05-30-2006, 08:28 AM
Aaron Glenn had groin surgery that required putting in a mesh. He has never been the same since. In Dallas he was a nickle corner, probably a very good one, but just a nickle. He doesn't have the necessary speed anymore.


UH..... No he wasn't.......

well he was...... but he wasn't.... He started 7 games for the 'boys. & they were glad to have him. He played very well for them. Even as a Nickle corner, he'd add pretty good depth to our squad.......

I don't have a problem with Buchanon yet...... but even if you hate him, who would you start in his place??

El Tejano
05-30-2006, 08:56 AM
Glenn had six interceptions last year with Dallas right?

SESupergenius
05-30-2006, 09:00 AM
Glenn had great reflexes and was a very good corner, he was better than Dunta, and possibly at this point probably still is. Sure Glenn gambled some, but that is the nature of the 3-4, corners are allowed to play agressive and they rely on the safeties to pick that up. This is something that we have never had really, a good safety play.

Exascor
05-30-2006, 09:30 AM
Glenn had six interceptions last year with Dallas right? He had 4 actually.

El Tejano
05-30-2006, 09:58 AM
Isn't that more than Dunta and PBuch?

Bobo
05-30-2006, 10:04 AM
Man the more things happen with this team the more I realize just how bad Capers and Co. were bad for our team.

Why is it that when Capers and Co. are intense about training camp, everybody talks about how bad they were but when Kubiak talks about the same thing, everybody kisses his feet?

Exascor
05-30-2006, 10:08 AM
Isn't that more than Dunta and PBuch?Yes. Combined.

Texans Horror
05-30-2006, 10:36 AM
OK, everyone is gone now. Here is the story I heard at the time, fwiw.

It wasn't just about age and ability. He was the teams's rep to the players association. From that position he questioned the coaching staff on the intensity of pre-trainng camp practices that violated the collective bargaining agreement. Other teams in the league have gotten penalized for such violations, so they do happen. It is apparent that any sort of "speaking up" was frowned upon by the previous regime, and that weighed heavily into the keep/cut decision.

Interesting. I wonder if other players ran into similar conflicts with the previous coaching staff. I have also wondered how much had to be done to irk Capers and Co. Wand was sidelined inexplicably the entire year. I'm not trying to lay him out as some kind of whistleblower, btw - just throwing out ideas.

jerek
05-30-2006, 10:57 AM
Never heard of that particular conflict with the coaching staff but wouldn't surprise me. It was a badly kept secret that Sharper was run out of town for questioning the coaching staff.

Cutting Glenn was absolutely a mistake. He was a defensive leader, a very smart veteran, seemed to command the respect of the other players, and even as old as he was, he still had a good 2-3 years of good football left in him. A move to FS would not have been out of the question. Don't know if any of you caught it, but they replayed a bite from an interview several years back, in which some of the league's then-top WRs (including T.O.) were asked who was the toughest corner they had ever faced. Glenn's name came up a lot. Even if we had chosen to reduce his playing time in accordance with his diminishing athleticism, he still would have been a valuable tutor and asset, and D-Rob always spoke very highly of him as a mentor.

Double Barrel
05-30-2006, 11:13 AM
IIRC, Glenn wanted to be a starter, and the old regime could not gaurantee that he would be (since we had just acquired P.Buch).

While I did not agree with the decision to cut him, I thought the decision was mutual between Glenn and the Texans.

I would have preferred to keep him for his leadership skills, as well as to compete for the no. 2 spot and keep P.Buch honest.

Kaiser Toro
05-30-2006, 11:19 AM
I do not think keeping Glenn would have helped us any more than our two wins. Yes we may have recieved an incremental win, but the long term need to get new guys in here, start laying out a foundation for the future leadreship and cap implications on top of what was mentioned in an earlier post show that the long term impact of releasing him was more important than any short term gains.

thunderkyss
05-30-2006, 11:33 AM
I do not think keeping Glenn would have helped us any more than our two wins. Yes we may have recieved an incremental win, but the long term need to get new guys in here, start laying out a foundation for the future leadreship and cap implications on top of what was mentioned in an earlier post show that the long term impact of releasing him was more important than any short term gains.

But the only new guy we have there, is Buchanon..... then we're loosing Coleman this year....... still no new faces. I don't think Keeping Glenn would have hurt our ability to get new guys back there.....

I mean we lost him....... and still, no new guys.

Brandon420tx
05-30-2006, 12:18 PM
Weren't Coleman and Glenn good friends? *I believe they also played with the Jets together* Glenn getting cut could have attributed to Colemans fallout with the Capers and Co. as well.

*Pure speculation, but would love for someone to try to find some article of proof for this*

BigDTexansFan
05-30-2006, 01:00 PM
glenn was a great CB but i don't think that he would be as effective at safety. i believe capers released him cause he wanted a more younger and faster secondary e.g. p-buc i thought it was a great idea at the time but i thought wrong cause look how p-buc turned out.... but i still got faith in him hopefully mario will make him better


if p-buc don't get better , I expect Kubiak will cut losses and let him go

WWJD
05-30-2006, 01:05 PM
Aaron wanted to play for Bill again.

I think that had as much to do with him going to the Cowboys as anything else. He's a great guy to have on the roster.

Runner
05-30-2006, 01:23 PM
I do not think keeping Glenn would have helped us any more than our two wins. Yes we may have recieved an incremental win, but the long term need to get new guys in here, start laying out a foundation for the future leadreship and cap implications on top of what was mentioned in an earlier post show that the long term impact of releasing him was more important than any short term gains.

You may have some good points here, but I think the cutting of Glenn affected the attitude of the team as much as the on field play.

El Tejano
05-30-2006, 01:26 PM
You may have some good points here, but I think the cutting of Glenn affected the attitude of the team as much as the on field play.
That is where I saw the difference myself. Guys like Glenn and Sharper brought it and our young guys would play to that level. Now without that leadership, they would give up alot.

Kaiser Toro
05-30-2006, 01:26 PM
You may have some good points here, but I think the cutting of Glenn affected the attitude of the team as much as the on field play.

I do not dispute that, but I get the sense (a spidey one at that) that the train wreck was going to occur with or without him last year.

Runner
05-30-2006, 01:30 PM
I do not dispute that, but I get the sense (a spidey one at that) that the train wreck was going to occur with or without him last year.

Agreed. There were a combination of errors, both large and small, that built on each other until their effect was greater than the sum of their parts.

mapleleaf
05-30-2006, 01:56 PM
I don't think so....I think it was one of those descisions like that, that led us to our collapse.

LORK 88
05-30-2006, 02:00 PM
I don't think so....I think it was one of those descisions like that, that led us to our collapse.

I agree, we neglected and disposed of some of our great veteran leadership for younger guys without guidance. I dont know what made us think that, but we got too young too fast and ended up wishing we still had guys like Sharper and Glenn. Odds are, they would eventually be cut as a cap casualty, but I think it was waaaay too soon.

TexanFan881
05-30-2006, 02:04 PM
Imagine if we kept him. Dunta, Glenn, and P-Buc. Buchanon will improve this year. We could have set the DB worries aside if we kept him. 4 interceptions for a player who played nickel most of last year is very impressive.

powerfuldragon
05-30-2006, 02:27 PM
aaron glenn is probably my second favorite texan of all time.

TexanAddict
05-30-2006, 05:25 PM
I honestly believe that there was no reason to release Aaron Glenn last year. He was under contract and would have provided competition for P-Buch in training camp, and more than likely (based on Buchanon's play last year) would have kept his spot opposite D-Rob. Releasing him did nothing but create a lack of depth at the corner position.

WWJD
05-30-2006, 05:31 PM
I've always heard how smart a player Aaron is. I wonder if he has coaching aspirations when his playing days are over.

Texans_Chick
05-30-2006, 05:35 PM
I honestly believe that there was no reason to release Aaron Glenn last year. He was under contract and would have provided competition for P-Buch in training camp, and more than likely (based on Buchanon's play last year) would have kept his spot opposite D-Rob. Releasing him did nothing but create a lack of depth at the corner position.


Fair point.

I think the plan was to keep Glenn but that he was doubleplus unhappy we signed PBuc. Teams keep guys in that situation all the time, but I guess they over-estimated PBuc's immediate contribution to the team.

BTW, here's a my perspective:link (http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2006/05/how_about_the_secondary_are_th.html) of the secondary so far.

I'd love to hear what people who have actually seen the OTAs have to say about how the secondary guys are looking.

South Texan
05-30-2006, 10:26 PM
Isn't that more than Dunta and PBuch?

Hmmmm, now that we have some DE's that will be making the QB's life misearble, think the number of intercepions may go up?:shoot: