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Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 12:54 AM
As a Texan fan. Here's what I fear will happen at the start of the NFL season...

The first week of the NFL. Reggie Bush will make one or two great runs in his first game. And this alone will make the Texans look like NFL-DRAFT-FOOLS! And every "great" run (more than 10 yards) will solidify in the minds of NFL fans everywhere that Reggie Bush is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. And even if the Saints lose each game it wont matter. Because people will be only looking at the one or two ESPN-highlight runs and blowing them out of proportion. All it takes is one or two great runs. That's it. This is how flash works. Each and every great run that Reggie Bush does will be a thorn in the side of every Texan fan. But don't fret...

Quietly. Slowly but surely, Mario Williams will be making improvements. But since it's not flashy. A sack wont have the same impact as single 15 yard run. It's not fair. I know. But we'll have to deal with it.

Fast forward to week seven. And that's when things start to change. Defenses will adjust and make life a little worse for Reggie Bush. Don't be surprised if Bush get hurt mid-season. One of my co-workers (a Detroit Lion's fan for 20 years) suggested this might happen and that Reggie Bush would finish the season with around 800-900 yards rushing. We've also had many talks about Barry Sanders comparison to Reggie Bush. After many hours of debate regarding Barry Sanders, Reggie Bush and Emmitt Smith (touchy subject among Lion fans) -- our conclusion is that Reggie Bush will not be like Barry Sanders. But more like Marcus Allen. Although, not identical. Two weaknesses that both Barry and Reggie share is that they aren't very good at breaking the tackle. Allen was better at this. Barry was better at behind the scrimmage runs/short cuts and change in direction. While Bush is better at open field runs and misdirection. Allen could do more power runs. Even though he had a great mid-field running skills. So, I see Reggie Bush following in the footsteps of Allen more than Sanders. Also note that Bush has excellent hands for receiving, like Allen. Sanders was a good at receiving. But certainly not as good as Marcus Allen (nor Bush).

I think that the suggestions (by Michael Irvin) that Texans are like Portland in that they passed on Jordan and took Sam Bowie in the 1984 NBA draft...is a crap comparison. For one, Reggie Bush is NOT the same level of player of Jim Brown much less Michael Jordan. That's how good Reggie would have to be to be even be considered an NFL version of "Jordan." Even Emmitt Smith or Walter Payton didn't have the same impact on the NFL as Jordan had on the NBA (and more). And since when does an 11-man offensive roster (NFL) equal a 5-man line-up(NBA)? A single player has much more effect on the 5-man NBA line-up than one does on an NFL line-up. Nevertheless, the more people compare Reggie Bush to Jordan the higher the expectations will be. Can you say Harold Miner, Jerry Stackhouse, or Isaiah Rider? I say, good. Keep up with the Jordan comparisons.

Like I said before. Reggie Bush will not be a flop (Ki-Jana Carter/Tim Biakabutuka/Tyrone Wheatley/Rashaan Salaam). He'll be an all-around great TB. But each spectacular run will just be hard to take for Texan fans. Just be patient. We're trying to build a championship. Not a ESPN-highlight.

P.S. It's better that the Texans follow a team-building plan like Baltimore Ravens/New England Patriots rather than what the Detroit Lions did.

michaelm
05-19-2006, 01:20 AM
Sorry man, I see where your headed with your comparison, but I totally disagree.
Marcus Allen is widely accepted as one of the games best ever goal line/short yardage backs. I have a hard time believing Bush will ever be more than a shakey Rb in short yardage or goal line situations.

I do agree with some of your other points, but wonder... who are you speaking of when you say "our conclusion is that..."? who besides you is included in 'our' in your statement? Not trying to be a smart a@@... just wondered who else you're referring to...

Wordem
05-19-2006, 02:36 AM
That's not the one you're going to regret not taking.

Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 02:43 AM
Sorry man, I see where your headed with your comparison, but I totally disagree.
Marcus Allen is widely accepted as one of the games best ever goal line/short yardage backs. I have a hard time believing Bush will ever be more than a shakey Rb in short yardage or goal line situations.

I do agree with some of your other points, but wonder... who are you speaking of when you say "our conclusion is that..."? who besides you is included in 'our' in your statement? Not trying to be a smart a@@... just wondered who else you're referring to...

I've clarified in bold above.

Malloy
05-19-2006, 03:44 AM
I really don't care what the media say, I lost my remaining respect for them years ago. If Bush does well, good for him, but for me all that matters (football being a team sport) is the end result, the season.

rittenhouserobz
05-19-2006, 04:39 AM
I don't see the Eastern Sports Propaganda Network as an unbiased source of reporting so I will make my own opinions of players based on what they are actually doing instead of basing opinions on who my favorite team is.

BTW Here is a scenario: there are two minutes in the game and Indy is down to the Texans by a TD. It's 4th and 8. A known passing down (especially now that Edge is gone), Mario Williams sacks Manning. That can be just as exciting as a 60 yard-TD. IMHO So please don't be so down on Mario.

Bamaborn-Texasbred
05-19-2006, 04:47 AM
I hope Reggie blows his hammy so I don't have to read or see any more about him. No use crying over spilled milk.

I believe Mario and Reggie both are going to show you the Texans made the right choice. I'm going to leave you with one of my favorite quotes I saw on this message board:

"No NFL team plays at the Rose Bowl."

tex
05-19-2006, 05:18 AM
It's time to move on and stop the fuss about Reggie.All the talk about him isn't going to make him a Texan.

aj.
05-19-2006, 06:59 AM
Worry about things you can control, like whether to walk around with a dark cloud over your head - or not.

TEXANRED
05-19-2006, 07:45 AM
I understand what you are saying, I tape NFL live and Reggie is the only player they even talk about.

Reggie is a Media darling and I wish him the best and hope he has a long fruitfull NFL career.

What does Brown, LT, Sanders, Williams, Thomas, Johnson, Holmes, and Alexander all have in common? No rings. Sweetness would be on the list if it wasen't for the 85 Bears D. Bettis would be too if it wasen't for the Steelers (cough **REFS**cough) D. That right there should tell you somthing.

THe Texans didn't do the cool thing or the popular thing but this is football and not high school. The Texans did what was best for this team and my hat goes off to them.

TexanBorn51
05-19-2006, 08:06 AM
I frankly as well as others that I know frankly don't care if Reggie runs for 20,000 yards and the NFL fanbase thinks he's the greatest thing next to JC and that's the same with Mario with one sack or 500 sacks. What will open the media hype, fanbase, and sports headline news for everyone to read about and open their eyes to someday is when the Texans start winning games go to the playoffs and eventually the Super Bowl.

Tex Trenches
05-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Saints fans will suffer with each Mario sack...

Buffi2
05-19-2006, 09:12 AM
Winning isn't everything, it is the only thing. Vince Lombardi:mario:

Bobo
05-19-2006, 09:27 AM
As a Texan fan. Here's what I fear will happen at the start of the NFL season...

The first week of the NFL. Reggie Bush will make one or two great runs in his first game. And this alone will make the Texans look like NFL-DRAFT-FOOLS! And every "great" run (more than 10 yards) will solidify in the minds of NFL fans everywhere that Reggie Bush is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. And even if the Saints lose each game it wont matter. Because people will be only looking at the one or two ESPN-highlight runs and blowing them out of proportion. All it takes is one or two great runs. That's it. This is how flash works. Each and every great run that Reggie Bush does will be a thorn in the side of every Texan fan. But don't fret...

Quietly. Slowly but surely, Mario Williams will be making improvements. But since it's not flashy. A sack wont have the same impact as single 15 yard run. It's not fair. I know. But we'll have to deal with it.

Fast forward to week seven. And that's when things start to change. Defenses will adjust and make life a little worse for Reggie Bush. Don't be surprised if Bush get hurt mid-season. One of my co-workers (a Detroit Lion's fan for 20 years) suggested this might happen and that Reggie Bush would finish the season with around 800-900 yards rushing. We've also had many talks about Barry Sanders comparison to Reggie Bush. After many hours of debate regarding Barry Sanders, Reggie Bush and Emmitt Smith (touchy subject among Lion fans) -- our conclusion is that Reggie Bush will not be like Barry Sanders. But more like Marcus Allen. Although, not identical. Two weaknesses that both Barry and Reggie share is that they aren't very good at breaking the tackle. Allen was better at this. Barry was better at behind the scrimmage runs/short cuts and change in direction. While Bush is better at open field runs and misdirection. Allen could do more power runs. Even though he had a great mid-field running skills. So, I see Reggie Bush following in the footsteps of Allen more than Sanders. Also note that Bush has excellent hands for receiving, like Allen. Sanders was a good at receiving. But certainly not as good as Marcus Allen (nor Bush).

I think that the suggestions (by Michael Irvin) that Texans are like Portland in that they passed on Jordan and took Sam Bowie in the 1984 NBA draft...is a crap comparison. For one, Reggie Bush is NOT the same level of player of Jim Brown much less Michael Jordan. That's how good Reggie would have to be to be even be considered an NFL version of "Jordan." Even Emmitt Smith or Walter Payton didn't have the same impact on the NFL as Jordan had on the NBA (and more). And since when does an 11-man offensive roster (NFL) equal a 5-man line-up(NBA)? A single player has much more effect on the 5-man NBA line-up than one does on an NFL line-up. Nevertheless, the more people compare Reggie Bush to Jordan the higher the expectations will be. Can you say Harold Miner, Jerry Stackhouse, or Isaiah Rider? I say, good. Keep up with the Jordan comparisons.

Like I said before. Reggie Bush will not be a flop (Ki-Jana Carter/Tim Biakabutuka/Tyrone Wheatley/Rashaan Salaam). He'll be an all-around great TB. But each spectacular run will just be hard to take for Texan fans. Just be patient. We're trying to build a championship. Not a ESPN-highlight.

P.S. It's better that the Texans follow a team-building plan like Baltimore Ravens/New England Patriots rather than what the Detroit Lions did.

I hear he's not running much now. I also hear that he may not be doing all that much running in NO with Deuce there. And the additional value he would bring over a healthy Davis wouldn't even compare to the additional value the Texans got with Williams.

El Tejano
05-19-2006, 09:51 AM
The way I see it is, if Bush came here it would be nothing but distraction from the media for a franchise and new head coach who are trying to put a winning team on the field.

Meanwhile, quietly our unattractive pick of Mario Williams is getting all the time necessary to focus and learn the skills he is being trained on by our staff, and our head coach is getting the opportunity of being able to work with his team rather than interview about one specific player.

Also, in the meantime our team is coming together as one. Even the vets are loving Williams because of his humbleness and willingness to learn.

Ibar_Harry
05-19-2006, 10:01 AM
I use a different NBA comparison when talking about Bush and Williams. To me its like Chamberlain vs Russell. I always liked the later. Russell was the winner.

thunderkyss
05-19-2006, 10:36 AM
As a Texan fan. Here's what I fear will happen at the start of the NFL season...

The first week of the NFL. Reggie Bush will make one or two great runs in his first game. And this alone will make the Texans look like NFL-DRAFT-FOOLS! And every "great" run (more than 10 yards) will solidify in the minds of NFL fans everywhere that Reggie Bush is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. And even if the Saints lose each game it wont matter. Because people will be only looking at the one or two ESPN-highlight runs and blowing them out of proportion. All it takes is one or two great runs. That's it. This is how flash works. Each and every great run that Reggie Bush does will be a thorn in the side of every Texan fan. But don't fret...


It's nice and all that you are trying to support your team, but your logic is kinda flawed.

First, last year, there were 32 teams in the NFL. of that 32, 8 (25%) ran for more than 2000 yards.......... none of them had Reggie Bush.
Out of those 32 teams, the Texans had a Better running game than 17 other teams. & our running back(even though he didn't play a full season) was the 9th best, avg 88.7 yards/game, with 230 touches. That's better, than Warrick Dunn(88.5 ypg, 280atts) Cadillac Williams(84.1 ypg, 290 atts), Julius Jones(76.4 ypg, 257 atts), Lamont Jordan (73.2 ypg, 272 atts), Steven Jackson(69.4 ypg, 254atts), Mike Anderson(67.6 ypg, 239 atts).

The man avg's 4.2ypc, just like Edgerin James & Mike Anderson. That's better than Cadillac Williams, Stephen Jackson, Fred Taylor, Brian Westbrook, Julius Jones, Priest Holmes, Duece McAllister, Curtis Martin, & Ahman Green.

his 4.2 ypc, is less than 1 yard per carry, than LT, Clinton Portis, & Rudi Johnson(4.3 ypc), Ricky Williams & Ronnie Brown(4.4ypc), Marshall Faulk(4.5 ypc), & Willie Parker(4.7 ypc)

Only eight running backs were asked to carry the ball more than DD. Thomas Jones who only gained 359 more yards on 84 more carries(4.2), in 5 more games. That's only 72 yards a game. LT picked up 486 more yards, on 109 more carries(4.4 ypc), in 5 more games (97 yards per game). Clinton Portis picked up 540 more yards, on 122 more carries(4.5 ypc), in 5 more games( 108 yards/game).

Of all the backs I've mentioned, Only Tiki Barber(4) and LT(8) played more games than DD their first three years. Only LT was asked to carry the load DD has, and none of them, has been on a team as bad as DD has for his first 3 years.

IF you keep him healthy, and get him into the secondary more frequently, like all the guys mentioned here, and he will be as good, if not better than all of them.

Right now, there is not a better runningback in the AFC South.

Think about it.

AFC South, DD is the best Running back to date.

ojthecat
05-19-2006, 10:42 AM
As a Texan fan. Here's what I fear will happen at the start of the NFL season...

The first week of the NFL. Reggie Bush will make one or two great runs in his first game. And this alone will make the Texans look like NFL-DRAFT-FOOLS! And every "great" run (more than 10 yards) will solidify in the minds of NFL fans everywhere that Reggie Bush is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Who cares what fans everywhere think? This is about winning Champioinships not a popularity contest.

kastofsna
05-19-2006, 11:04 AM
with every minor injury that forces him to sit a few games every year, houston will look like geniuses.

and i'd take greg jones over any back in the AFC South, but i'm a bit funky that way.

michaelm
05-19-2006, 11:31 AM
I've clarified in bold above.


Sorry about that... it wasn't really neccesary for you to clarify...
We overlooked that portion of you post when we originally read it.
And by 'we' I mean Jameson and I.


p.s. for those of you that are unaware, Jameson is an Irish whiskey...

michaelm
05-19-2006, 11:35 AM
It's nice and all that you are trying to support your team, but your logic is kinda flawed.

First, last year, there were 32 teams in the NFL. of that 32, 8 (25%) ran for more than 2000 yards.......... none of them had Reggie Bush.
Out of those 32 teams, the Texans had a Better running game than 17 other teams. & our running back(even though he didn't play a full season) was the 9th best, avg 88.7 yards/game, with 230 touches. That's better, than Warrick Dunn(88.5 ypg, 280atts) Cadillac Williams(84.1 ypg, 290 atts), Julius Jones(76.4 ypg, 257 atts), Lamont Jordan (73.2 ypg, 272 atts), Steven Jackson(69.4 ypg, 254atts), Mike Anderson(67.6 ypg, 239 atts).

The man avg's 4.2ypc, just like Edgerin James & Mike Anderson. That's better than Cadillac Williams, Stephen Jackson, Fred Taylor, Brian Westbrook, Julius Jones, Priest Holmes, Duece McAllister, Curtis Martin, & Ahman Green.

his 4.2 ypc, is less than 1 yard per carry, than LT, Clinton Portis, & Rudi Johnson(4.3 ypc), Ricky Williams & Ronnie Brown(4.4ypc), Marshall Faulk(4.5 ypc), & Willie Parker(4.7 ypc)

Only eight running backs were asked to carry the ball more than DD. Thomas Jones who only gained 359 more yards on 84 more carries(4.2), in 5 more games. That's only 72 yards a game. LT picked up 486 more yards, on 109 more carries(4.4 ypc), in 5 more games (97 yards per game). Clinton Portis picked up 540 more yards, on 122 more carries(4.5 ypc), in 5 more games( 108 yards/game).

Of all the backs I've mentioned, Only Tiki Barber(4) and LT(8) played more games than DD their first three years. Only LT was asked to carry the load DD has, and none of them, has been on a team as bad as DD has for his first 3 years.

IF you keep him healthy, and get him into the secondary more frequently, like all the guys mentioned here, and he will be as good, if not better than all of them.

Right now, there is not a better runningback in the AFC South.

Think about it.

AFC South, DD is the best Running back to date.



Please stop making sense. You obviously have no idea where you are posting... :)

michaelm
05-19-2006, 11:38 AM
I've clarified in bold above.


Sorry about that... it wasn't really neccesary for you to clarify...
We overlooked that portion of you post when we originally read it.
And by 'we' I mean Jameson and I.


p.s. for those of you that are unaware, Jameson is an Irish whiskey...

Bamaborn-Texasbred
05-19-2006, 11:56 AM
I like it when someone backs up their point with statistics instead of "how they see it". Or their "IMHO".

I would be willing to be that Texans offense will outrun the Saints offense this year. I also bet that the Texans defense gets more sacks and turnovers than the Saints defense.

I further bet that Bush will start in less than 80% of the Saints games. Mario will start in every single game this year.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 12:05 PM
It's nice and all that you are trying to support your team, but your logic is kinda flawed.

Of all the backs I've mentioned, Only Tiki Barber(4) and LT(8) played more games than DD their first three years. Only LT was asked to carry the load DD has, and none of them, has been on a team as bad as DD has for his first 3 years.

IF you keep him healthy, and get him into the secondary more frequently, like all the guys mentioned here, and he will be as good, if not better than all of them.

Right now, there is not a better runningback in the AFC South.

Think about it.

AFC South, DD is the best Running back to date.

:confused: I guess you didn't read my whole post. It wasn't about whether or not DD was an underrated back. He is. It was what effect each run Bush would have on the league and Texan fans (perception vs reality). That's all.

By the way, what did you mean when you said, "It's nice and all that you are trying to support your team." Which team is that?

El Tejano
05-19-2006, 12:16 PM
Not to mention we probably have been the team more forced to pass on 2nd and third down in all of the league due to our inability to protect the QB.

U4ikrob
05-19-2006, 12:29 PM
What may end up being totally irony about the whole Texans/Reggie Bush ordeal is the way the Texans are trading for Saints running backs and him riding the bench - he may become a Texan some day afterall.

Hypothetical idea here : Suppose we fast forward 4 years - NO still has Deuce running strong and Bush's rookie contract comes up - NO will not want to sign him to big contract again because he will be sharing time with Deuce. The Texans RBBC system would be a perfect fit along with many other positive factors - we would be able offer him an above average contract, would be a great PR machine and pair two of the top picks from the same draft. This would be a huge positive PR swing in the Texans favor about the time were ready to be competing for playoffs on a regular basis and would help bolster future biz and team relations for years to come.

Call me crazy :francis: - but I dont think its that far fetched a dream, but i'm sure some of you will certainly say only when :pigfly:

Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 12:38 PM
I use a different NBA comparison when talking about Bush and Williams. To me its like Chamberlain vs Russell. I always liked the later. Russell was the winner.

Yeah, that's a better comparison. Although, I think there's a higher chance that Mario is Russell than Bush is Chamberlain. Don't ya think?

Bush would have to put up some incredible numbers to be even considered a offesive powerhouse like Wilt.

U4ikrob
05-19-2006, 12:39 PM
What may end up being totally irony about the whole Texans/Reggie Bush ordeal is the way the Texans are trading for Saints running backs and him riding the bench - he may become a Texan some day afterall.

just getting Hypothetical here : Suppose we fast forward 4 years - NO still has Deuce running strong and Bush's rookie contract comes up - Dominick Davis knees are finally to the point Houston has to look at long term repalcements. NO will not want to sign Bush to big contract again because he will still be sharing time with Deuce so will probably go with an average offer. If left in a RFA or UFA situation the Texans could give up a low pick and some cash and end up with - The Bush - afterall. The Texans RBBC system would be a perfect fit along with many other positive factors - we would be able offer him an above average contract - perhpas enough to entice him as he would be getting more minutes here and more money, it would be a great PR machine and pair two of the top picks from the same draft and the city involved making a media situation not easily ignored.. This could be a huge positive PR swing in the Texans favor about the time were ready to be competing for playoffs on a regular basis and would help bolster future biz and team relations for years to come along with secure multi years in season ticket sales along with making the Texans an even bigger threat by adding possibly a top tier RB in the backfield on offense beacuse hes in a situation in NO where he cant get a majority of starter minutes.

Call me crazy :francis: - but I dont think its that far fetched a dream, Bush has a bit of an ego and we will see how long that will mesh with him playing second fiddle and riding the pine. I think its a far out possibility - but not to far out allthough i'm sure some of you will certainly say this will only happen when :pigfly:

Double Barrel
05-19-2006, 12:43 PM
A sack wont have the same impact as single 15 yard run.

Personally, I'd take a sack over a 15 yard run any day of the week. Something about watching the enemy's QB get body slammed to the ground gives me pleasure.

yeah, I'm mean that way. :howdy:

Long Baller
05-19-2006, 12:50 PM
The way I see it is, if Bush came here it would be nothing but distraction from the media for a franchise and new head coach who are trying to put a winning team on the field.

Meanwhile, quietly our unattractive pick of Mario Williams is getting all the time necessary to focus and learn the skills he is being trained on by our staff, and our head coach is getting the opportunity of being able to work with his team rather than interview about one specific player.

Also, in the meantime our team is coming together as one. Even the vets are loving Williams because of his humbleness and willingness to learn.

Good point... Avoid the media circus and focus on the important stuff.

Meloy
05-19-2006, 01:00 PM
In 1964, I got my DL. I was 14 and wanted my first auto to be a 1963 Chevy Super Sport like a friend had. Man, I wanted that car! I got a 59 Plymouth Fury instead. I forgot all about that Chevy the first day I drove up to school in that maroon 2 door with spinner hubcaps. Seemed like half the school was telling me how great of a car the Plymouth was. I got a lot of miles out of it and it was a very dependable car. On another note, long runs and touch downs are great, but there is something that really pumps me up about a sack or a tackle behind the line of scrimmage. Welcome to Houston, Mario. I am glad you are one of us.

Hardcore Texan
05-19-2006, 01:02 PM
Lot's of good comments here, especially about not listening to the media. I agree with a lot of people when I say, WHO CARES? I have a thick skin when watching ESPN and take things with a grain of salt, I believe half of what of a couple select people on that network say. It is really so Sensationalized it is hard to take at times.

We are building our team for the long haul and from the trenches. IMO, the Saints will struggle again this year again, I don't think Reggie is going to have a spectacular season like all of the talking heads are predicting. I think he will struggle on this team next year, he is fast and versatile yes, but getting to the perimeter will be harder than it was in college.

Hottoddie
05-19-2006, 01:21 PM
Bush will be to the NFL, what Spud Webb was to the NBA. He could do all kinds of athletic things on the court & was an exciting player to watch, but his career was fairly short & he never made a real impact on the game. I truely believe that Mario will have a Hall of Fame career & that Bush will be exciting at first, but in the end, will be nothing more than a journeyman RB when his career is all said & done.

real
05-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Bush will be to the NFL, what Spud Webb was to the NBA. He could do all kinds of athletic things on the court & was an exciting player to watch, but his career was fairly short & he never made a real impact on the game. I truely believe that Mario will have a Hall of Fame career & that Bush will be exciting at first, but in the end, will be nothing more than a journeyman RB when his career is all said & done.


I agree with you.... I just think Mario will outlast Bush...

TexansLucky13
05-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Reggie will no doubt be a success in the NFL, in my opinion. But this does not make me believe that us fans will regret the draft decision every time St. Reginald breaks a run. Mario will be excellent at his position, and in the end, we needed defense more than offense.

A large majority of us were stunned on that Friday night that we learned that the Texans had signed Super Mario. But we soon calmed down and realized the positive side to the decision.

Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 04:48 PM
Same here, but mine is

Both are winners......

Here's what I think about Mario...

He's smart. He's HUGE! And last but not least, he's LIGHTNING QUICK! And it's this SPEED that will catapult Mario into the upper echelon of "Best DE" Category.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Mario WILL BE stronger than Julius Peppers. And quicker than Reggie White! The best of both worlds!

You heard it here folks! :)

And my points about Bush are NOT that he's the "greatest ever, etc...." But rather that he's very, very good. And that 15 yard runs make it SEEM like he's the BEST EVER (you know, flash, hype, ESPN-highlights, etc...). This is not meant to imply that Bush will suck. No, to the contrary. He's going to be very, very good. But once the hype wears off and reality hits home (fans/sports analysis). The TRUTH COMES OUT: Winning is all that matters.

So, be prepared if Bush comes out like gang busters and starts putting up numbers like Marshall Falk. Now, I ask you. Was Falk the best RB that ever played the game? Was Falk the Jordan of the NFL? No.

In the end, Mario will have the last laugh.

TexanBorn51
05-19-2006, 05:37 PM
Sometimes I really just have a hard time understanding when and why they keep comparing these Reggie and Mario if scenarios on selection. One could have either one or even both but if you eliminate all the picks below them to being not good then where does that leave your team anyway. It seems like that would eliminate the whole value of any #1 pick when the rest of the team still needs positions to support and fill.

Malloy
05-19-2006, 06:26 PM
Personally, I'd take a sack over a 15 yard run any day of the week. Something about watching the enemy's QB get body slammed to the ground gives me pleasure.

yeah, I'm mean that way. :howdy:

Honesty is a good thing and yes, I agree 100% with you. Seeing Manning cussing out his OL because he gets sacked = Priceless :)

amazingandre
05-19-2006, 06:49 PM
Bush is on NFL network and saying that he KNOWS HE WILL NOT START!!!!!! wow what a good choice that was..... what a waste im so glad that isnt the texans......screw the media and the critics....lets take it to the field and so em/ what we're made of!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bowser:

hollywood_texan
05-19-2006, 07:01 PM
Who cares about what Reggie Bush does in the regular season. Winning the Super Bowl is what counts!

IMO that a team needs three things to have the best shot to win the Super Bowl:

1. A decent quarterback
2. Around a 1,300 yard running back
3. A stout defense

We already had #2 nailed and with the addition of Kubiak and his coaching experience, we needed to work more on #1 and #3 instead of drafting Bush.

Actually, #2 is probably the easiest of the 3.

Reggie Bush is a great talent but is not required to have an effective offense

Smash_Mouth_Mario
05-19-2006, 07:49 PM
Sometimes I really just have a hard time understanding when and why they keep comparing these Reggie and Mario if scenarios on selection. One could have either one or even both but if you eliminate all the picks below them to being not good then where does that leave your team anyway. It seems like that would eliminate the whole value of any #1 pick when the rest of the team still needs positions to support and fill.

Sometime I wonder if it would be better if Mario was picked at 1st round, but 7th overall. And he still became the SAME player. At least the perception of the 1st pick over-all would'nt be so bad.