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PapaL
05-14-2006, 06:00 PM
Since our faithful have yet to mention this, here goes:


AUSTIN -- Texas running back Ramonce Taylor, who scored a touchdown in the Longhorns' Rose Bowl win over Southern California, was arrested early Sunday by Bell County sheriff's deputies who said they found about five pounds of marijuana in a backpack in his car.

According to a news release from Sheriff Dan Smith, deputies also found a live 40-caliber round of ammunition in the console of the vehicle.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2444916

Comments? Drugs and ammo, far from a small mistake kids make.

gtexan02
05-14-2006, 06:07 PM
Apparently Texas is the new Dallas. With Ricky's infamy, this guy just killed any potential he may have had

Blake
05-14-2006, 06:11 PM
If true, I am shocked. I really like Ramonce as an athlete. Showed great promise for the next year or 2 of College. I think its a shame that people with such potential get into things like drugs, or things that require guns...

cptnbreakdance
05-14-2006, 10:55 PM
I live and go to school in Belton (Romance's home town) and have partied with him at my house in the last 3 weeks. He really is a nice and personable guy... but if you all knew the whole story surrounding this you would prob. be shocked.

hot pickle
05-14-2006, 10:59 PM
that really sucks, hes my favorite longhorns player on offense, i wonder if mack brown will kick him out, like kwami Cavil?

Rovator
05-14-2006, 11:11 PM
five pounds? that's like $5000. That's a lot of wacky tobaccy (that looks stupid when you type it ;) )

ledzeppelin229
05-14-2006, 11:40 PM
Five lbs tells me Ramonce won't be getting off with community service or simple probation. It also tells me that he won't be going pro anytime soon.

cptnbreakdance
05-15-2006, 12:07 AM
Five lbs tells me Ramonce won't be getting off with community service or simple probation. It also tells me that he won't be going pro anytime soon.

Not if it was 5lbs of Dro, which it was, thats worth at least $25,000.

swtbound07
05-15-2006, 12:12 AM
smoke'em if you got'em

thunderkyss
05-15-2006, 06:48 AM
I live and go to school in Belton (Romance's home town) and have partied with him at my house in the last 3 weeks. He really is a nice and personable guy... but if you all knew the whole story surrounding this you would prob. be shocked.

Is that shocked in a "man he's getting screwed" kinda way, or "I'm surprised that's all they got on him" kinda way??

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 07:37 AM
that really sucks, hes my favorite longhorns player on offense, i wonder if mack brown will kick him out, like kwami Cavil?

He's been kicked off since February. He was told to get his grades up before Mack Brown would even talk to him about coming back.

Frills
05-15-2006, 08:30 AM
HAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA

This is great, shows what UT can produce at RB...
Williams = Canada
Benson = Hold out and then injured
Taylor = Wearin stripes, but not a referee

BOOMER!!!!!

Snapple
05-15-2006, 08:47 AM
I don't really care how much weed he smokes. He can sit around and smoke 12 hours a day if that's what rocks his boat.

I don't condone the gun thing, though. If he needs to get straightened out, then he needs to get straightened out.

Ramonce is a good player, and he will be missed on the offense if it comes to that. Jamaal Charles is the real gem of the backfield though, so as long as Charles stays out of trouble, I'm not really worried.

gsbtxn
05-15-2006, 08:51 AM
I was real surprised to see his lawyer go to the "Michael Irvin defense". "It's not his weed. I don't know whose it is, but it's not his..."

Hardcore Texan
05-15-2006, 08:51 AM
This kind of thing just ticks me off. Not only am I a Longhorn fan and we lose a valuable player. But more importantly, he just goes and blows his future! Most people would die to have his talent and opportunity that he had.....and what does he do with it. I guess some people are their own worst enemy.

MikeMc
05-15-2006, 09:06 AM
Nah, it's the system at UT-A that is producing all of these felons. They are taught in HS that they ar euntouchable because of their talents, so they get moved ahead. Then they get to UT-A and the same thing happens.....See the list of UT-A "grads" (aka early NFL draft entrants) as well as current/former students. They get in trouble, or can't make the grades, but they still move on thanks to the help of Mack Brown. Just look at RWilliams, Ced Benson, VYoung, and now the new member of the BongHorns!

5 lbs? $15-20k! Where did he get that type of scratch to even have that bag on him? Shows he was tutored by VYoung to call the cops about a broken window (his car)!!! DUDE!! Just go sell some dime bags to Austin Westlake students, and pay for the broken window!

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 09:08 AM
HAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA

This is great, shows what UT can produce at RB...
Williams = Canada
Benson = Hold out and then injured
Taylor = Wearin stripes, but not a referee

BOOMER!!!!!

Boomer???
Boomer what?
Where's Charles Thompson at now?

Snapple
05-15-2006, 09:09 AM
Nah, it's the system at UT-A that is producing all of these felons. They are taught in HS that they ar euntouchable because of their talents, so they get moved ahead. Then they get to UT-A and the same thing happens.....See the list of UT-A "grads" (aka early NFL draft entrants) as well as current/former students. They get in trouble, or can't make the grades, but they still move on thanks to the help of Mack Brown. Just look at RWilliams, Ced Benson, VYoung, and now the new member of the BongHorns!

5 lbs? $15-20k! Where did he get that type of scratch to even have that bag on him? Shows he was tutored by VYoung to call the cops about a broken window (his car)!!! DUDE!! Just go sell some dime bags to Austin Westlake students, and pay for the broken window!

Yeah, when you get to UT-Arlington, you've hit the big time. ;)

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 09:15 AM
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I also think Ramonce Taylor was involved in some incident (fight???) on 6th Street in November. Mack Brown didn't release the details of it, but it seems like I heard on 1300 in Austin that Taylor was involved. If that's the case, then this guy's been given more than one chance.

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 09:47 AM
Link (http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/05/15ramonce.html) from the Austin American Statesman:

It was Taylor's second brush with authorities in six months. In December, Austin police considered Taylor a possible suspect in a Dec. 10 incident in the Sixth Street entertainment district and in an assault involving an automatic handgun on Sept. 4. No charges were filed in those incidents.

Nice knowing him.

cptnbreakdance
05-15-2006, 11:35 AM
Nah, it's the system at UT-A that is producing all of these felons. They are taught in HS that they ar euntouchable because of their talents, so they get moved ahead. Then they get to UT-A and the same thing happens.....See the list of UT-A "grads" (aka early NFL draft entrants) as well as current/former students. They get in trouble, or can't make the grades, but they still move on thanks to the help of Mack Brown. Just look at RWilliams, Ced Benson, VYoung, and now the new member of the BongHorns!

5 lbs? $15-20k! Where did he get that type of scratch to even have that bag on him? Shows he was tutored by VYoung to call the cops about a broken window (his car)!!! DUDE!! Just go sell some dime bags to Austin Westlake students, and pay for the broken window!

No I'm sorry but you are compleatly wrong.... He has been hanging around this croud ever since he was in grade school... its all his extended family. He just happened to be really fast and good at football along with everything else that he did.

Huge
05-15-2006, 11:59 AM
HAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA

This is great, shows what UT can produce at RB...
Williams = Canada
Benson = Hold out and then injured
Taylor = Wearin stripes, but not a referee

BOOMER!!!!!
Earl Campbell = Hall of Fame
Priest Holmes = Hall of Fame?

blOw yoU...
Quentin Griffin?
De'Mond Parker?
Marcus Dupree?

Scoreboard?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Tale Gator
05-15-2006, 01:03 PM
Nah, it's the system at UT-A that is producing all of these felons.

The UT system produces felons... lol:

UT envy rears its ugly head again. :bomb:

Huge
05-15-2006, 01:12 PM
Nah, it's the system at UT-A that is producing all of these felons. They are taught in HS that they ar euntouchable because of their talents, so they get moved ahead. Then they get to UT-A and the same thing happens.....See the list of UT-A "grads" (aka early NFL draft entrants) as well as current/former students. They get in trouble, or can't make the grades, but they still move on thanks to the help of Mack Brown. Just look at RWilliams, Ced Benson, VYoung, and now the new member of the BongHorns!

5 lbs? $15-20k! Where did he get that type of scratch to even have that bag on him? Shows he was tutored by VYoung to call the cops about a broken window (his car)!!! DUDE!! Just go sell some dime bags to Austin Westlake students, and pay for the broken window!
Unless I'm missing somebody, the list of UT-A early entrants consists of two players: Kwame Cavil and Vince Young

Cavil left early because he broke team rules and was dismissed from the team. Instead of coming back for his senior season and riding the pine, he declared for the draft.

Vince Young declared for the draft for very different reasons.

I don't recall Roy Williams, Cedric Benson or Vince Young ever having any grade issues.

For every player you can list as evidence that they stay in school despite their grades (and provide proof), I can name 3 that have been dismissed from the team for the same reason.

kastofsna
05-15-2006, 01:33 PM
i'm sure it was worth it for taylor.

hollywood_texan
05-15-2006, 01:43 PM
I live and go to school in Belton (Romance's home town) and have partied with him at my house in the last 3 weeks. He really is a nice and personable guy... but if you all knew the whole story surrounding this you would prob. be shocked.

Maybe so, but is sounds like he really needs to hang out with a better crowd if he wants to make the millions and play in the NFL.

Problem though, damage is already done and I would be surprised if he plays at Texas again. With that, how is going to establish high draft pick value?

He totally screwed up.

Frills
05-15-2006, 01:50 PM
Earl Campbell = Hall of Fame
Priest Holmes = Hall of Fame?

blOw yoU...
Quentin Griffin?
De'Mond Parker?
Marcus Dupree?

Scoreboard?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

63-14 sound familiar?

I'll put $50 on OU this year...feel like gamboling?

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:00 PM
1999 ended 6 years ago. I saw you mention Josh Heupel today too. It's time to set your Uncle Rico time machine back to 2006 now.

Frills
05-15-2006, 02:02 PM
2006...get ready to hate #42, and #28 will ruin your day.

Huge
05-15-2006, 02:03 PM
63-14 sound familiar?

I'll put $50 on OU this year...feel like gamboling?
Not as familiar as 45-12 or 56-39-5.

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:04 PM
Ain't too worried with Rhett Bomar taking snaps.

Frills
05-15-2006, 02:07 PM
I'll put $50 on OU this year...feel like gamboling?


sill hearing crickets

Huge
05-15-2006, 02:14 PM
"Gamboling"

I'll go out on a limb and say you received your education from Oklahoma.

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:15 PM
sill hearing crickets


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/coreyvice/bomarsack.jpg

Rhett's still hearing train whistles.

Htown34s
05-15-2006, 02:16 PM
It always has to devolve into some college rivalry, doesn't it?

Good riddance Ramonce! You had the world in your hands and threw it all away.

Jamaal Charles has class, you do not.

Htown34s
05-15-2006, 02:16 PM
sill hearing crickets

Keep on topic and get a spell checker.

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:19 PM
It always has to devolve into some college rivalry, doesn't it?


Sure does...at least we're in the right area this time. This time of the year sure does get boring......

Frills
05-15-2006, 02:21 PM
Side note,

Who does UT hate more...OU or TAMU?

Frills
05-15-2006, 02:23 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/coreyvice/bomarsack.jpg

Rhett's still hearing train whistles.

UT will be starting an unexperienced QB this year, there will be bumps in the road

stevo3883
05-15-2006, 02:25 PM
Side note,

Who does UT hate more...OU or TAMU?

hate- OU

mock- aTm

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:28 PM
UT will be starting an unexperienced QB this year, there will be bumps in the road

No doubt....really, I expect Bomar to do better this year and whichever QB Mack goes with to struggle some.

Just bustin' your chops a little....

Htown34s
05-15-2006, 02:32 PM
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/05/16taylor.html

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 02:45 PM
Good article. You get his side of the story a little more, but it still isn't sounding too good for him.

Not sure that I'm buying the racial slur.

MikeMc
05-15-2006, 03:23 PM
"He's not playing hide the ball. If he's carrying five pounds of marijuana either he's the stupidest person alive or thinks he's bulletproof," Harris said after the brief hearing.

Yes and Yes!!!


The Tahoe was registered to Taylor and family friend Robert Dominguez, who appeared in court Monday with Taylor's parents to speak on the young man's behalf. The judge did not allow them to speak, but after the hearing Dominguez said his son played football at Belton High with Taylor and that the families have been friends for years. Dominguez said he co-signed the car loan.

Smells a little "Reggie Bushy" to me!! So if UT is stripped of its Nat'l C-ship and USC is not eligible (because of Reggie Bush), who is the true Nat'l Champ of 2005?? Penn St?!!!

Htown34s
05-15-2006, 03:33 PM
"He's not playing hide the ball. If he's carrying five pounds of marijuana either he's the stupidest person alive or thinks he's bulletproof," Harris said after the brief hearing.


Either that or he was stoned out of his mind! :chicken:


He could have made up the racial slur, but I doubt he'd break his own window. I'm sure there was some sort of scuffle, who knows who started it. But this is just more bad decisions on his part. I'd have more sympathy for him if this was his first time in trouble, but its not.

MikeMc
05-15-2006, 03:53 PM
How do idiots like this get into UT-A?? I am sure there is some very smart kid that got denied because of this "disgrace to the human race" getting in!

I guess it goes to show you that anyone that can play ball can get into college.

Like Biggie Smalls said, "You either need to have a wicked jump shot or slang rock" to get rich. This kid had both (respectfully regarding his profession of CFB and Mary Jane Distribution).....yet he let both slip....now he will be sitting in jail!!

Get off my Pecan Tree Farm!!!! :hunter:

cptnbreakdance
05-15-2006, 04:10 PM
Either that or he was stoned out of his mind! :chicken:


He could have made up the racial slur, but I doubt he'd break his own window. I'm sure there was some sort of scuffle, who knows who started it. But this is just more bad decisions on his part. I'd have more sympathy for him if this was his first time in trouble, but its not.

He didnt make up the slur. Everyone I know that was at the party said the same thing... he was about to get jumped by alot of redneck townies from belton, one of his friends did get jumped, romance got all of his friends rounded up, and they eventually got away, but not before his window was broken.

Huge
05-15-2006, 04:51 PM
How do idiots like this get into UT-A?? I am sure there is some very smart kid that got denied because of this "disgrace to the human race" getting in!
Same way Lamar Smith was able to get into UH.

powerfuldragon
05-15-2006, 05:01 PM
Five Pounds?!

ghostlight
05-15-2006, 05:26 PM
He didnt make up the slur. Everyone I know that was at the party said the same thing... he was about to get jumped by alot of redneck townies from belton, one of his friends did get jumped, romance got all of his friends rounded up, and they eventually got away, but not before his window was broken.

That has to be a new one.:lightbulb:

Kaiser Toro
05-15-2006, 06:18 PM
The kid let his life choices effect his passion, free schooling and possible employment. I do not see how this is a ding on the University in as much as an example that should be used on how it all can come to a halt quickly for a student athlete making one wrong and illegal choice outside of the field of play.

cptnbreakdance
05-15-2006, 09:03 PM
That has to be a new one.:lightbulb:

Why? Dont you know what a townie is? people that work at the mcdonald's in the town where they graduated high school (in this case Belton) that are jealous of another person's fame (in this case RT) and they wanted to start a little squab, and it just escalated quickly and without warning.

ghostlight
05-15-2006, 10:25 PM
Why? Dont you know what a townie is? people that work at the mcdonald's in the town where they graduated high school (in this case Belton) that are jealous of another person's fame (in this case RT) and they wanted to start a little squab, and it just escalated quickly and without warning.

Most of the people I see working at McDonald's could not qualify to be in the high order of "Redneck".

Mr. White
05-15-2006, 10:38 PM
Sometimes , the term "Redneck" doesn't always mean "good ol' boy." Not to say there's not plenty of "good ol' boy rednecks." He's obviously talking about Belton locals who come from there and stayed there when he speaks of "townies."

I can tell you firsthand that these guys he speaks of don't mind scrapping. I came through that town once with a punk rock band and played a UMHB party. Didn't end too pretty. I fought alongside a few of 'em and fought against a lot more of 'em. And some of 'em were in fact, "rednecks."

The difference is we got the hell out of Dodge, er, Belton and didn't call any cops. Didn't threaten anybody. Also didn't carry anything stronger than Miller Lite.

YoungTexanFan
05-15-2006, 10:47 PM
Sometimes , the term "Redneck" doesn't always mean "good ol' boy." Not to say there's not plenty of "good ol' boy rednecks." He's obviously talking about Belton locals who come from there and stayed there when he speaks of "townies."

I can tell you firsthand that these guys he speaks of don't mind scrapping. I came through that town once with a punk rock band and played a UMHB party. Didn't end too pretty. I fought alongside a few of 'em and fought against a lot more of 'em. And some of 'em were in fact, "rednecks."

The difference is we got the hell out of Dodge, er, Belton and didn't call any cops. Didn't threaten anybody. Also didn't carry anything stronger than Miller Lite.

Well, on a much lighter note...

KU just so happens to trump UT, OU, and TAMU.

There you have it. It was written on a message board so it must be true.

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 08:11 AM
Well, on a much lighter note...

No lighter note necessary....I never said we didn't have fun....

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 10:10 AM
Well, it seems that he was not invited to the party, therefore he should not have gone to the party. It was on private property, therefore he was trespassing.

Sounds to me like he is now trying to play the race card to get him out of trouble. Sure, it is because of the racial slur that he had a bullet in his car and 5lbs of dope in his backpack in his backseat. Total BS from an idiot!

Also, UT-A should be investigated....how is it not a violation for a "friend" to "co-sign" for a vehicle that is for a UT-A football player?? Sounds like a "friend" of the program. That is where UT-A and the NCAA violations committee are spoke of together.

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 10:31 AM
Also, UT-A should be investigated....how is it not a violation for a "friend" to "co-sign" for a vehicle that is for a UT-A football player?? Sounds like a "friend" of the program. That is where UT-A and the NCAA violations committee are spoke of together.

The co-signer is his friend's dad. (The QB at his high school.) His friend was even with him that night. The dad probably figured the kid would owe him a favor later on.

If the dad was connected to the UT Athletic Dept. in any way, the press would be all over this. Ain't happening. Mack Brown worked for Barry Switzer when he was giving out Z28's as signing incentives and just knows better.

cptnbreakdance
05-16-2006, 11:53 AM
Well, it seems that he was not invited to the party, therefore he should not have gone to the party. It was on private property, therefore he was trespassing.

Sounds to me like he is now trying to play the race card to get him out of trouble. Sure, it is because of the racial slur that he had a bullet in his car and 5lbs of dope in his backpack in his backseat. Total BS from an idiot!

Also, UT-A should be investigated....how is it not a violation for a "friend" to "co-sign" for a vehicle that is for a UT-A football player?? Sounds like a "friend" of the program. That is where UT-A and the NCAA violations committee are spoke of together.

Thtas the whole thing... it wasnt a private party... I was there and left before RT got there and I wasnt invited but me being white I dotn think that was a problem for them. I just want ya'll to know that RT isnt making up that part about him being jumped by these guys. I got all of this info from the person I went to the party with. He is from Belton and goes to UMHB with me. He's known RT since grade school, and wouldnt lie to me about anything like that.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 12:12 PM
So what does him getting jumped and being called a racial slur have ANYTHING to do with him having 4-5lbs of marijuama in his car?

Some people just want to scream victim when they are the one's at fault.

So if you weren't invited, how do you know it wasn't a private party?? Maybe a bunch of people were not supposed to be there...the AP said it was a private party for a person graduating from A&M. Maybe RT should not have gone to a party simply for that reason!! Maybe he should have been studying for his finals that he missed on Monday so that he could continue to get his grades in order and continue with his education.

He is 100% in the wrong, and the fact that he "walked away" does not justify everything else he did wrong! :chicken:

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 12:15 PM
Thtas the whole thing... it wasnt a private party... I was there and left before RT got there and I wasnt invited but me being white I dotn think that was a problem for them. I just want ya'll to know that RT isnt making up that part about him being jumped by these guys. I got all of this info from the person I went to the party with. He is from Belton and goes to UMHB with me. He's known RT since grade school, and wouldnt lie to me about anything like that.

Today's article (http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/05/16taylor.html)

Some people are gonna call BS no matter what. Good to hear another side of the story.

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 12:29 PM
So what does him getting jumped and being called a racial slur have ANYTHING to do with him having 4-5lbs of marijuama in his car?

Some people just want to scream victim when they are the one's at fault.

So if you weren't invited, how do you know it wasn't a private party?? Maybe a bunch of people were not supposed to be there...the AP said it was a private party for a person graduating from A&M. Maybe RT should not have gone to a party simply for that reason!! Maybe he should have been studying for his finals that he missed on Monday so that he could continue to get his grades in order and continue with his education.

He is 100% in the wrong, and the fact that he "walked away" does not justify everything else he did wrong! :chicken:

Out in the sticks, people just show up if they hear there's gonna be a big party. Anyone who's thrown a party knows people that they don't know (or like) will probably show up.

Funny thing about how fights happen...one party is hardly ever 100% right while the other is 100% wrong. I don't doubt that a racial slur was used in Belton, TX.

Sounds like the kid is mainly guilty of being a (suspended) Longhorn at this point. Any thing else is up to the jury.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 12:38 PM
It's his car, the drugs were found in his vehicle.....case closed! If you are at a party and you are sitting on a couch and two others are smoking pot, you will get busted too!

I can see it now. Taylor get's off....and Stewart gets charged with a hate crime because some of the 100 people at the party allegedly uttered a racial slur. His career will be over, and Taylor will be reinstated to the BongHorns!

LMAO!! :tease: :stirpot:

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 12:40 PM
LMAO....don't forget he is also charged with possessing 5.3 lbs of marijuana!!!

That is possession with the intent to sell/distribute! So he is also being charged with being a dope dealer. How you LongHorn fans can even back this fool is embarrassing!!!

Innocent until proven guilty?? No, guilty until he proves his innocence!!

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 12:44 PM
It's his car, the drugs were found in his vehicle.....case closed! If you are at a party and you are sitting on a couch and two others are smoking pot, you will get busted too!

I can see it now. Taylor get's off....and Stewart gets charged with a hate crime because some of the 100 people at the party allegedly uttered a racial slur. His career will be over, and Taylor will be reinstated to the BongHorns!

LMAO!! :tease: :stirpot:

Kinda funny... when you're talking about Taylor, "case closed!"
When you talk about the racial slur it's "alleged."

Did his car window just "allegedly" break by itself?
Just call a spade a spade...you just want this guy to go up because he's a (suspended) Longhorn.

chuckm
05-16-2006, 12:48 PM
I just read the article ...... he got caught with 5 lbs of pot, right? Who gives a rip if someone used a racial slur as it pertains to the drug possession? Go arrest the guy who made the slur, prosecute him for a "hate" crime, and they can share a jail cell ....

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 12:50 PM
LMAO....don't forget he is also charged with possessing 5.3 lbs of marijuana!!!

That is possession with the intent to sell/distribute! So he is also being charged with being a dope dealer. How you LongHorn fans can even back this fool is embarrassing!!!

Innocent until proven guilty?? No, guilty until he proves his innocence!!


Don't think that I'm "backing this guy." The kid did some really stupid stuff and he'll probably pay for it. He was a good athlete on a National Championship team and he blew it.

I just don't think it's too wise to proclaim guilt until a jury has had the chance.

Hardcore Texan
05-16-2006, 01:05 PM
This is sad to me no matter what team he played for, just a bunch of wasted talent down the drain. That is the real tragedy....unfortunately it is a story we hear way too often.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 01:13 PM
He brought up the racial slur after the cops busted him with 5 lbs of weed. So yes, the "racial slur" is heresay...the weed is hard core evidence.

My guess is that the window was broken during a drug deal gone bad.......he just went to the party to try and have someone else pay for the broken window. Unfortunately, he was too high to realize he called the cops about his broken window.....all the while he had a fat bag of weed in his back seat!

Do you know how much volume of weed it takes to make 5 lbs!? Ask HUGE to call Nate Newton!

ledzeppelin229
05-16-2006, 01:22 PM
I've never seen someone try so hard to discount one thing as "hearsay" while making up the rest of the story like they were there. It's also disappointing to see someone do so much revelling in another persons mistake - I don't disagree that he knew the consequences and should have used much better judgement, but you've got an extremely sick mind to take this much joy in another person ruining their life. Especially when all you are really focused on is another excuse to put down UT.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 01:30 PM
I assume that is targeted at me?? He is a grown man, he deserves what he gets. The "college kid" thing is overrated. I am just sick of all of these people saying there is another side to the story.....which of course is the racial slur. How does that discredit the fact that he had 5 lbs of weed in his possession??? The vehicle is his.....possession is 9/10ths the rule!

Will he blame the friend's dad that co-signed for the truck?? Will he blame the farm owner for someone throwing a brick at his truck (then tossing the bag of weed in the backpack in his backseat)?? No, he did it, he needs to take it!!

I do not need to do anything to shink the UT-A armour....they do a great job of it themselves!

ledzeppelin229
05-16-2006, 01:36 PM
I assume that is targeted at me?? He is a grown man, he deserves what he gets. The "college kid" thing is overrated. I am just sick of all of these people saying there is another side to the story.....which of course is the racial slur. How does that discredit the fact that he had 5 lbs of weed in his possession??? The vehicle is his.....possession is 9/10ths the rule!

Will he blame the friend's dad that co-signed for the truck?? Will he blame the farm owner for someone throwing a brick at his truck (then tossing the bag of weed in the backpack in his backseat)?? No, he did it, he needs to take it!!

I do not need to do anything to shink the UT-A armour....they do a great job of it themselves!

I don't doubt that the weed is his and I agree he deserves any punishment he gets. I just think it's kind of lame when people are so quick to pass judgement when facts are still being disputed by both parties - and even worse to seem to take so much joy in him being sent to prison. There's plenty of people that I think deserved what they got, but there's no need to jump for joy during it.

And this isn't the first time your posts (in response to potential misconduct) have been guided by your hate for UT/A&M/USC etc.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 01:43 PM
UT/A&M/USC???

What are you talking about? Of course I do not like UT and A&M for SWC/UH reasons (even moreso for UT).....but USC?

Is OU not supposed to hate on UT fan?

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 01:44 PM
I assume that is targeted at me?? He is a grown man, he deserves what he gets. The "college kid" thing is overrated. I am just sick of all of these people saying there is another side to the story.....which of course is the racial slur. How does that discredit the fact that he had 5 lbs of weed in his possession???


It doesn't. The possession charge is what it is....

The racial slur is a separate issue. Just because he said it happened doesn't mean it didn't.

We know that people were hostile to his presence at the party. The broken window is proof. It definitely stands to reason that a racial slur was used. Having been to Belton, I can understand that aspect of the story.

The fact is there are more aspects to the story that we don't know yet. A lot of stuff that's in print still doesn't add up. His credibility may be in question because he was in possession....not because he's a Longhorn.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 01:55 PM
Well, if you are on my property "illegally" I can call you what I choose!!

If he would have crashed a graduation party at the Dairy Farm in Alvin, TX (near Froberg's Farm), he would have been lucky to leave there with only a racial slur being the offense!!!

ledzeppelin229
05-16-2006, 02:05 PM
Maybe it's just the way your post came across in the Bush / #5 thread. The "POS kid" remark caused me to lump the schools in together.

MikeMc
05-16-2006, 02:34 PM
That was singling him out, not his former university.

ledzeppelin229
05-16-2006, 02:37 PM
That was singling him out, not his former university.

Why don't you target his University then? You've already condemned UT because of things players have done. Personally I don't think Mack Brown is in the loop about Ramonce's drug habits/dealings, but then again you never know.

Mr. White
05-16-2006, 02:45 PM
Why don't you target his University then? You've already condemned UT because of things players have done. Personally I don't think Mack Brown is in the loop about Ramonce's drug habits/dealings, but then again you never know.

I think once his grades slipped, Mack Brown was done with him. In December, he got in trouble with the law on 6th Street for fighting. That probably wasn't the first time he broke team rules either. He won't suit up for the Longhorns again.

Maybe he can step in once Bam Morris retires with the Katy Copperheads.

PapaL
05-16-2006, 02:56 PM
Lets weight the two issues:

Broken car window (with possible racial slur)

5lbs of Pot


Who cares about a broken window? Seriously. A racial slur is a no no, but compared to 5lbs of pot? Whats next lets go after the Jay-walker and not chase down murderers?

hot pickle
05-16-2006, 08:51 PM
i Hate this, almost makes me cry.
but...
i will back my boy up
so let RT go with Community Service, and bring him back on the team

cptnbreakdance
05-16-2006, 10:10 PM
Lets weight the two issues:

Broken car window (with possible racial slur)

5lbs of Pot


Who cares about a broken window? Seriously. A racial slur is a no no, but compared to 5lbs of pot? Whats next lets go after the Jay-walker and not chase down murderers?

What do you have against people that smoke pot? I've met RT and he's a really nice person and honestly puts forth an effort to remember people that he meets and that are nice to him. I was really suprised he remembered my name the second time we hung out... But to say that those guys that were about to seriously beat RT into unconsciousness, merely based on his race are not subject to the same scrutiny of punishment that RT will recieve is just ignorant. Dont hate on people just because they smoke pot... if you had tried it you would prob like it anyway.

ledzeppelin229
05-16-2006, 10:23 PM
Umm...so how well do you actually know this guy? I've met a lot of people that seem like good guys but when you dig a little deeper, a lot of them have some pretty big skeletons in their closet. Five pounds isn't just lighting up a doobie now and then to relax - not to mention the ammunition found in his car. That usually spells dealer. It doesn't free the accusers from being racists or trash but it isn't that hard for there to be two criminals in some cases.

cptnbreakdance
05-17-2006, 01:46 AM
I'm not doubting that he may hang out w/ those people that do deal, because they mostly related to him. I was just wondering why a bigot is lower on his hate pole than a pot head.

And ts not like me and him are best friends, I met him through my roommate when he came and partied at our house in the last couple of weeks. So we got to know each other at least a little bit, and from what I got, he was a sincere nice person, that just wanted to have a good time. I wouldnt be suprised if one of the dude's he was with were the ones with all of the pot.

(and by the way there is no way that anyone could have not smelled that stuff in his car, it was 5lbs of some dank 'Dro, so RT prob knew it was there but didnt think it was enough to get that kind of charge, but let them search the vehicle anyway because he wanted to get those guys that messed with him and he wanted to cooperate as much as possible)

PapaL
05-17-2006, 04:24 AM
Walking around with 10 joints is a pothead. Driving around with 5lbs and live ammo is a dealer or a very close relation to a dealer.

What do I have against people that smoke pot? Well lets start with its illegal, contributes to the moral decline of our current society, and did I mention its illegal. Cheech and Chong didnt carry around 5lbs of pot for personal use. Unless someone else steps up and says it was their pot, he should be charged with it.

So your arguement is that his assualt, which never happened, should be attended to with same amount of merit as the 5lbs of hard evidence found in the car?

Mr. White
05-17-2006, 07:47 AM
So your arguement is that his assualt, which never happened, should be attended to with same amount of merit as the 5lbs of hard evidence found in the car?

No they shouldn't. These are 2 separate issues. The "assualt" may or may not have happened. The broken window is evidence that it did.

.....there's more to this story than the property owner is letting on.

BattleRedGuy
05-17-2006, 08:29 AM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/coreyvice/bomarsack.jpg

Rhett's still hearing train whistles.

Ironic that you would show an image that has Larry Dibbles in it. He, Selvin Young and Aaron Harris were in involved in the Huntsville incident with pot found in the car. Of course, it was not theirs.:twocents:

Mr. White
05-17-2006, 08:50 AM
That's the funny thing about weed....everyone uses it, but nobody owns it.

cptnbreakdance
05-17-2006, 11:45 AM
That's the funny thing about weed....everyone uses it, but nobody owns it.

AMEN!

Think about it, if you were in RT's shoes it would be the same situation. He was with his family, guys his same age, they grew up together, like I said he prob knew there was something in his car, but to automaticly say that it was his is jumping the gun.... Just because the bag had BIG 12 CONFERENCE written on it, doesnt mean he didnt give that backpack to his family member as a gift. He wasnt alone in the vehicle, therefore everyone that was with him deserves the same amount of legal scutiny that RT got.

cptnbreakdance
05-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Walking around with 10 joints is a pothead. Driving around with 5lbs and live ammo is a dealer or a very close relation to a dealer.

What do I have against people that smoke pot? Well lets start with its illegal, contributes to the moral decline of our current society, and did I mention its illegal. Cheech and Chong didnt carry around 5lbs of pot for personal use. Unless someone else steps up and says it was their pot, he should be charged with it.

So your arguement is that his assualt, which never happened, should be attended to with same amount of merit as the 5lbs of hard evidence found in the car?

Have you seen where RT lives.... he lives in the ghetto as does his entire extended family... that gun he or one of the people he was with was carrying is prob. for protection if anything. If you think only drug dealers carry guns in the hood then you are gravely mistaken.

uteric3232
05-17-2006, 12:48 PM
I assume that is targeted at me?? He is a grown man, he deserves what he gets. The "college kid" thing is overrated. I am just sick of all of these people saying there is another side to the story.....which of course is the racial slur. How does that discredit the fact that he had 5 lbs of weed in his possession??? The vehicle is his.....possession is 9/10ths the rule!

Will he blame the friend's dad that co-signed for the truck?? Will he blame the farm owner for someone throwing a brick at his truck (then tossing the bag of weed in the backpack in his backseat)?? No, he did it, he needs to take it!!

I do not need to do anything to shink the UT-A armour....they do a great job of it themselves!


You sir are a pathetic individual....if it was a Cougar High player im sure you would feel very different. But then again, if it was a coug, it would take a lot more than 5lbs to make the papers. Maybe thats what you are really mad at. Maybe you just hate that UofH is the dog**** on the bottom of college football's shoe.

To find joy in the troubles of others is pathetic. Ever heard of karma? Remember this when something happens in your life. You should never revel in the pain of others...I dont care if it is a "rival".

And the same goes for UT fans who blast OU players who get in trouble, etc...

Laughing and being happy at mistakes on the football field is one thing, being happy about a young kid ruining his life is another. Trust me, I am happy everytime Adrian Peterson fumbles the football, but if I met him I would shake his hand and probably ask for an autograph. And I would be very sad for him if he did something to ruin his future. As far as I know you might be 12 yrs old, or 50, either way you have a lot of growing up to do.

real
05-17-2006, 01:10 PM
You sir are a pathetic individual....if it was a Cougar High player im sure you would feel very different. But then again, if it was a coug, it would take a lot more than 5lbs to make the papers. Maybe thats what you are really mad at. Maybe you just hate that UofH is the dog**** on the bottom of college football's shoe.

To find joy in the troubles of others is pathetic. Ever heard of karma? Remember this when something happens in your life. You should never revel in the pain of others...I dont care if it is a "rival".

And the same goes for UT fans who blast OU players who get in trouble, etc...

Laughing and being happy at mistakes on the football field is one thing, being happy about a young kid ruining his life is another. Trust me, I am happy everytime Adrian Peterson fumbles the football, but if I met him I would shake his hand and probably ask for an autograph. And I would be very sad for him if he did something to ruin his future. As far as I know you might be 12 yrs old, or 50, either way you have a lot of growing up to do.


A-men...

MikeMc
05-17-2006, 01:20 PM
Well, if his gun is for protection, maybe it should be registered. Maybe the 40 caliber bullet was for Raccoon patrol or shootin possums!

Yes, poor guy, he has 5lbs of weed on his property and yet HE is the victim! No matter where he went to school or what sport he plays, he is a POS!

Now then, if it comes out that someone stashed it in his vehicle without him knowing, then I will give a full apology.

As the evidence proves, 5 lbs is a lot of DOPE! "With intent to distribute" means he was planning on selling it (as the farm owner stated was happening).....therefore, yes, he is a POS because that is how I feel about all drug dealers! The are the dogpoo on the bottom of the human world!! Anyone that backs them is right on the same boat!!!!

And no, it would take one joint found on a UH player to make the Top Story on the Houston channels.......UH does something wrong, it is the top story...UT or A&M do something wrong, it is quickly hidden or the media is paid off to hide it. Too bad Baylor did not have the same PR people during the BB player murder!

Mr. White
05-17-2006, 01:26 PM
Now then, if it comes out that someone stashed it in his vehicle without him knowing, then I will give a full apology.


Or you could not say anything in the first place that would require an apology. Pretty good policy for people that don't know the whole story.

MikeMc
05-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Wow, good point, but that's the life of a celebrity! Praised when you do well, scorned when you do something bad.

cptnbreakdance
05-17-2006, 02:48 PM
Well, if his gun is for protection, maybe it should be registered. Maybe the 40 caliber bullet was for Raccoon patrol or shootin possums!

Yes, poor guy, he has 5lbs of weed on his property and yet HE is the victim! No matter where he went to school or what sport he plays, he is a POS!

Now then, if it comes out that someone stashed it in his vehicle without him knowing, then I will give a full apology.

As the evidence proves, 5 lbs is a lot of DOPE! "With intent to distribute" means he was planning on selling it (as the farm owner stated was happening).....therefore, yes, he is a POS because that is how I feel about all drug dealers! The are the dogpoo on the bottom of the human world!! Anyone that backs them is right on the same boat!!!!

And no, it would take one joint found on a UH player to make the Top Story on the Houston channels.......UH does something wrong, it is the top story...UT or A&M do something wrong, it is quickly hidden or the media is paid off to hide it. Too bad Baylor did not have the same PR people during the BB player murder!

While I think that might be a crack at me... I wont start a war of words with you. That would be childish... I respect your opinion about drug dealers...

However, knowing that someone that has 5lbs of drugs isnt ness. a dealer. (He does have access to alot of cash coming from the UT program)If it was his pot, he could very well have just bought all of that for him and his home boys, he does have quite a few of them. (highly unlikly, but I am sticking up for a person that has stuck up for me before so I this it is justifiable)

MikeMc
05-17-2006, 03:41 PM
Be careful of the company you keep....just ask AI and Ray Lewis.....and your old buddy RT!

I am not saying he is or isn't a drug dealer, what I am saying is that 5lbs is a lot of weed for recreational use, and that the law deems that amount as "intent to distribute".......I guess that can be seen as distribute to "your boys" or distribute as a way to earn som caysh!

cptnbreakdance
05-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Its all good man... do you wanna know how loyal he and his family is? We had an xbox 360 stolen from our house without even knowing it and it just so happened that he took it to RT's cousin to sell it to them. He asked where they got it and when he found out he stole it from our house he made that little kid bring our xbox back to our house...

I'm not defending the drugs... I'm trying to defend his character... I know that in some of ya'lls eyes he is a bad person for having all of those drugs around him whether they are his or not, but I just want all of yall to know what a good person he is down at his core.

MikeMc
05-18-2006, 04:45 PM
Proof is in the pudding!! :francis: