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alphajoker
05-03-2006, 09:03 PM
I was just kind of wondering who most people on this board think is the face of the Houston Texans now? For me, I think it's Mario...first pick of the year to go with the new era of Texans football. :redtowel:

Texas
05-03-2006, 09:04 PM
A.J...He's been the most important and the only person every team really "feared".

hot pickle
05-03-2006, 09:10 PM
Yah Andre Johnson is the franchise player and always will be, he will be great since we got moulds

BigTimeTexanFan
05-03-2006, 09:10 PM
A.J...He's been the most important and the only person every team really "feared".
I think plenty of people feared D.Rob. That is why every team threw away from his side(causing his interception total to drop significantly).

stevo3883
05-03-2006, 09:11 PM
I was just kind of wondering who most people on this board think is the face of the Houston Texans now? For me, I think it's Mario...first pick of the year to go with the new era of Texans football. :redtowel:


we don't really have a "face" right now

BradK10
05-03-2006, 09:12 PM
nor do i think you really "need" a face

HJam72
05-03-2006, 09:13 PM
At the moment, AJ and D-Rob both had a drop off in performance last year (like most everybody else) and Mario hasn't yet proven anything (just like Bush, Young, Leinart, Fergason, etc.), so I'm gonna go with DD. It goes along with that huge sigh of relief he probably had when he heard Mario signed a contract. :)

Double Barrel
05-03-2006, 09:14 PM
D.Rob until someone proves themselves otherwise, IMO. AJ would be a close second right now.

Brandon420tx
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
D. Rob also, but Andre Johnson is better known around the league.

Hookem Horns
05-03-2006, 09:19 PM
Whether you guys like it or not it is still David Carr.

alphajoker
05-03-2006, 09:25 PM
nor do i think you really "need" a face

Yeah, you're right but what I mean is like, who do you think of when you think of the Texans? You know like when you think of the Packers, you think of Favre or the Bears and Urlacher.

powerfuldragon
05-03-2006, 09:32 PM
Chad Stanley

HJam72
05-03-2006, 09:36 PM
Whether you guys like it or not it is still David Carr.

The QB is not always the face of the franchise. Look at the Ravens SB team. Ray Lewis or that QB who's name I couldn't remember if my life defended on it?

Brandon420tx
05-03-2006, 09:36 PM
Chad Stanley


You need a :sarcasm: smiley ... I hope.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-03-2006, 09:38 PM
Mario Williams, the first pick of the new regime.

Double Barrel
05-03-2006, 09:39 PM
Whether you guys like it or not it is still David Carr.

Probably in the FO's eyes. But not necessarily because he's earned it in the past four years. D.Rob and AJ have both been to the Pro Bowl. I'd be surprised if DC has even made the ballot.

Vinnie333
05-03-2006, 09:43 PM
i dont think DROB was ever in the probowl...although he definitely deserved to be

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-03-2006, 09:47 PM
Dunta has never been to a probowl.

HJam72
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Dunta has never been to a probowl.

Don't worry. He will. :redtowel:

HomeBred_Texan
05-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Still David Carr

Texas
05-03-2006, 09:49 PM
What a idiotic statement

Brandon420tx
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Probably in the FO's eyes. But not necessarily because he's earned it in the past four years. D.Rob and AJ have both been to the Pro Bowl. I'd be surprised if DC has even made the ballot.

Dunta was very close to making the Pro-bowl, but he was beat out by a more well known veteran.

Hookem Horns
05-03-2006, 10:50 PM
Probably in the FO's eyes. But not necessarily because he's earned it in the past four years. D.Rob and AJ have both been to the Pro Bowl. I'd be surprised if DC has even made the ballot.

That's my point and I was referring to the FO. Carr's mug will still be on most of the marketing pieces, etc. When the rest of the nation thinks of the Texans they think of Carr, and how he has never had a chance to excel (their opinion, not necessarily mine).

wilanthony
05-07-2006, 10:15 AM
DOMANICK DAVIS. Wasn't he the team MVP?

aj.
05-07-2006, 10:21 AM
The team voted Domanick as their MVP for '05 and he will be expected to carry a heavy load once again this season.

I think when the rest of the nation thinks of Carr, they think of this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/aj_texans/162622.jpg

At least that's what people from around the country I talk to bring up when we talk Texans. It's always about the sacks. Hopefully Kubiak,Sherman and Calhoun can turn that around.

Kaiser Toro
05-07-2006, 10:26 AM
The team voted Domanick as their MVP for '05 and he will be expected to carry a heavy load once again this season.

I think when the rest of the nation thinks of Carr, they think of this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/aj_texans/162622.jpg

Since I have a Xeriscape in my yard I am not familiar with the cost of that product, but I am sure it is very expensive.

aj.
05-07-2006, 10:32 AM
I've heard it's really soft.


...uh, is that Wayne Newton with a thong? What's next, Tom Jones catching flying bras and panties from 60 year olds?

bigTEXan8
05-07-2006, 10:33 AM
I believe it's Carr as well. First off, you have to think. What are the Texans known for? Not being able to protect the QB. Who has been the QB that kept getting behind a horrible line for the first four years of the Texans? DC. For any QB to go out there and get his arse handed to him for 4 seasons is definitely going to be known around the league. AJ and D-Rob are stellar players and are well known throughout the league.

But I think that you have to look at this from a person who isn't a fan of the Texans; not necessarily a hater, but not like the people on this board. I garuntee if you ask someone in any other NFL city who the face of the franchise is of the Texans, there are more than likely going to tell you DC because he keeps getting sacked and still somehow plays moderately well.

mexican_texan
05-07-2006, 10:34 AM
http://www.affl.org/davis.jpg

Not only is he our franchise player, and one of the best RBs in the league, DD is at least a third of our defense if we don't get a good TE.

aj.
05-07-2006, 10:35 AM
...when healthy.


We haven't had any real high profile players or played in any high profile games so all people know about us is that our QB has been sacked more than anyone in the last four years. That's the ugly figurative face of the franchise if you ask me (collectively Carr, the OL and our former coaching).

People around the country who play fantasy, and millions of people do, know about DD.

2 CENTS
05-07-2006, 10:38 AM
When I think of the TEXANS I think of BENNIE JOPPRU!!!!! or TONY BOSELLI!!!!

ClintonPortis26
05-07-2006, 10:45 AM
Right now its Andre Johnson. In a Year or two it will probally be David Carr.

elbison
05-07-2006, 10:46 AM
prediction is Mario

Trap_Star
05-07-2006, 10:50 AM
I look at it this way, if we had to apply the FRANCHISE TAG on one our players, it would be Andre Johnson. :cool:

Kaiser Toro
05-07-2006, 10:55 AM
I've heard it's really soft.


...uh, is that Wayne Newton with a thong? What's next, Tom Jones catching flying bras and panties from 60 year olds?

If you have not seen and heard Wanye's cover of the Thong Song you have not experienced pure genius. A close second is Jones' cover of Burning Down the House with the Cardigans.

TexanFan881
05-07-2006, 10:56 AM
DD is probably our franchise player considering how much he has done for us in the run game and passing game.

bdiddy
05-07-2006, 11:25 AM
David Carr is the face of the franchise. He always has been and always will be so long as he is the QB. Mario Williams is a DE, DE are no the face of franchises. It is not a glamour position. Must be a QB, RB, or LB - you have to be thought of as a leader.

Carr has not done much to deserve this label, but this could change. If he has the kind of success that coach Kubiak thinks he is capable of this will give him a lot more validity. Carr already says the right things, is a good citizen, and has the pretty boy look that are great for PR. He needs to (1) produce on the field, (2) continue to gain the respect of this teammates, and (3) stop throwing tantrums on the field - if things don't go your way f-it and do what you can.

Dre
05-07-2006, 11:45 AM
we don't really have a "face" right now
I agree, this team just needs to win, and there's a difference between "face of the team" and franchise player. AJ doesn't talk enough with media to be the face. Now you could argue that he is the franchise along with DD and D-rob.

CoachJim
05-07-2006, 11:58 AM
Whether you guys like it or not it is still David Carr.

I gotta go with Kev here ... Hopefully in the very near future our club'll be known by several faces but right now, like it or not, it's still pretty boy DCarr.

WildBlackBear32
05-07-2006, 12:04 PM
David Carr is the face of the franchise. He always has been and always will be so long as he is the QB. Mario Williams is a DE, DE are no the face of franchises. It is not a glamour position. Must be a QB, RB, or LB - you have to be thought of as a leader.

I'd say Peppers is the face of the Panthers...

BadBobTx
05-07-2006, 12:14 PM
Easy our new Head Coach. Texans had no Coach our play calling was nonexisting . We had a lot of injuries but that was not the major prob . Carrs a B + QB Davis and A - RB but our defense coach was F Good Coaches win . BAD COACHING LOSES Look at Colts SeaHawks Denver Lost to a Better Coach . We might not make playoffs this year BUT we will kick some ass ........... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Beer :homer:

sprtsfanatic
05-07-2006, 12:34 PM
I'd say Peppers is the face of the Panthers...

Id have to disagree...it would have to be smith or delhomme....peppers is the face of that defense...not the panthers as a whole.

HJam72
05-07-2006, 12:52 PM
When people I've talked to who aren't Texans fans, but have seen them play against their favorite team at some point, talk about the Texans, they always remember 2 people: David Carr and Dominick Davis (not necesarilly in that order).

They say that David Carr will probably be a good QB when he gets protection, but they say that DD IS a very good RB. They remember him and that he's small, but tough and quick, but not real great at top speed and they remember that he's awesome at receiving out of the backfield. He is the only player on this team that they both remember and are ready to say that he is a good player (without any question about it). AJ is great but they don't recognize that name, nor D-Rob. I submit that, for now, DD is the face of this team and he is the player that other team's fans (not the team itself) fear the most. This is just from my experience, of course.

edit: In fact, all offseason I heard, "Hey, Reggie Bush! But, yeah, you've already got a good RB. You need a trade down."

TexanSam
05-07-2006, 08:07 PM
I would say it's David Carr. When people think of the Texans, they probably don't think of Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, Domanick Davis, or Mario Williams. They may know they are on the team, but the player that's the most prominent is David Carr. Nevermind that he's been an average to below average QB in all of his four seasons. He was the first player chosen by the Texans in the draft (not including the expansion draft). He'll probably remain as the face of the franchise until he leaves or retires.

Ibar_Harry
05-07-2006, 10:15 PM
I would say it's David Carr. When people think of the Texans, they probably don't think of Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, Domanick Davis, or Mario Williams. They may know they are on the team, but the player that's the most prominent is David Carr. Nevermind that he's been an average to below average QB in all of his four seasons. He was the first player chosen by the Texans in the draft (not including the expansion draft). He'll probably remain as the face of the franchise until he leaves or retires.

Yep, everyone knows how many sacks he's taken and kept on ticking. They have the ESPN commerical with no line to protect him. I would agree that DD has been consistantly the most productive and people thing AJ is scary, but in reality Carr is still the franchise player. If nothing else the contract he signed proved it.

BigTimeTexanFan
05-07-2006, 10:22 PM
A.J...He's been the most important and the only person every team really "feared".
I can't agree with your statement. I thinnk teams really fear Dunta Robinson. Nobody wanted to challenge him, instead they picked on Buchanon. This is why his interception number fell from what 6 to 1? However, I think with a much improved pass rush, the entore secondary will be able to capitalize on mistakes from quarterbacks trying to get rid of the ball too quickly.
Here's hoping to see a much improved defense!!!!
Go Dunta, Mario, TJ, and the rest of the defense

Bobo
05-07-2006, 10:25 PM
David Carr is still the franchise player. Mario Williams just happened to be the first pick of this year's draft. I don't believe the franchise player changes every year.

TexanBorn51
05-07-2006, 10:30 PM
"Baby, you can drive my Carr
yes, I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my Carr
And maybe I'll win for you"

TexansTrueFan
05-07-2006, 10:34 PM
I think plenty of people feared D.Rob. That is why every team threw away from his side(causing his interception total to drop significantly).


yeah and with no good CB on the other side why would they throw towards d-rob ? with A. Gleen we had a awesome secondary, but now switching to the 4-3 and with the pressure we should get on the QB, we should get way more turnovers on defense. But i think D.D is the franchise player.

BigTimeTexanFan
05-07-2006, 10:38 PM
See, when I think of a "franchise player" I think of someone that is flat out dominating. I don't see that with really anyone on our team. I see a lot of really good player that have a chance of being dominating with good coaching. Hopefully I will have a much different view after this season.

wicked_wayz
05-07-2006, 10:41 PM
i believe domanick davis and dunta robinson to be our franchise players BUT i also believe that once our o line improve carr would definitely be our franchise player

TexanBorn51
05-07-2006, 10:47 PM
The way I see it is if you just eliminate one of these players will the franchise undoubtly fall to a lower performance. DD, Dunta, Carr or whoever and take one out of the picture (franchise) not that their individual performances were better or not as good but franchise means to me a whole team performance and result not one individual statistic. Whoever you take out then one must replace that player with equal or similiar available talent. There are RB's, CB's, OL's, Dl's etc but you have to have QB's too.

El Tejano
05-08-2006, 11:50 AM
We don't need a face. We need a heart.