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gtexan02
05-03-2006, 08:28 PM
So I didn't really understand what the Supplemental draft was until I read about it more carefully on NFL.com. If what I understand to be true is true, then the Texans will get the first pick in the 2006 supplemental draft. If we take someone, we forfeit our 1st round pick in 2007. I don't think this is too wise, given a lot of our teams success is based on potential, and we have a very difficult schedule. If Ahmad Brooks is available, though, is he worth the 1st round pick? What about if he's available in the 2nd? I think i'd take him there, as it would probably be an immediate improvement to our MLB situation. Maybe thats why we didn't take any interior linebackers this draft, because we knew we could pick up Brooks with our 1st rounder in the supplemental draft. The question is, will he be available (I mean, did Va actually cut him or not) and if he is there, do we forfeit a #1 pick next year for him this year? Interesting question

YoungTexanFan
05-03-2006, 08:35 PM
So I didn't really understand what the Supplemental draft was until I read about it more carefully on NFL.com. If what I understand to be true is true, then the Texans will get the first pick in the 2006 supplemental draft. If we take someone, we forfeit our 1st round pick in 2007. I don't think this is too wise, given a lot of our teams success is based on potential, and we have a very difficult schedule. If Ahmad Brooks is available, though, is he worth the 1st round pick? What about if he's available in the 2nd? I think i'd take him there, as it would probably be an immediate improvement to our MLB situation. Maybe thats why we didn't take any interior linebackers this draft, because we knew we could pick up Brooks with our 1st rounder in the supplemental draft. The question is, will he be available (I mean, did Va actually cut him or not) and if he is there, do we forfeit a #1 pick next year for him this year? Interesting question

I've addressed this issue countless times before, but am glad to summarize it here again. Brooks is easily worth a first rounder, however NO team will give up a #1 in the supplemental draft. The Texans reached on Hollings. Brooks should go in the third to fifth round of the Supp. draft, depending on how much a team is willing to give up next year.

PapaL
05-03-2006, 08:44 PM
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but its not run as the regular NFL draft is. With the sup. draft teams bid on players with draft picks, highest bidder get the player. So if we bid our second round pick for Brooks, everyone else would have to give up their first round pick (since we have the the first pick in the second round, a first round pick is the only way we lose). So its not like it becomes a pi$$ing contest, its more like a secret bidder type. However we do lose our second round pick in next years draft, regardless of its actually position in the second round (33rd overall or 64th).

Trap_Star
05-03-2006, 08:46 PM
I've addressed this issue countless times before, but am glad to summarize it here again. Brooks is easily worth a first rounder, however NO team will give up a #1 in the supplemental draft. The Texans reached on Hollings. Brooks should go in the third to fifth round of the Supp. draft, depending on how much a team is willing to give up next year.

I would'nt mind using a 2nd rd pick on this guy. Had he stayed in school, he'd probably be top 15 pick. He needs to grow up and get his act together.:twocents:

PapaL
05-03-2006, 08:49 PM
Two write ups on Brooks:

http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/ahmadbrooks.htm
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2005/prospects/ahmad_brooks.html

I'd give up next years second. We've done it for worse players.

gtexan02
05-03-2006, 08:54 PM
Here how the supplemental draft works, per nfl.com:

1) Draft order is determined by regular draft order
2) A team may choose not to pick at any point in any round
3) If a team uses a pick on a player, they forfeit that draft pick in the subsequent draft.
4) You don't have to pick anyone

Therefore, Texans get #1 pick in supplemental draft, and could pass. If Steelers want to use their 2nd round pick on Brooks, we could use our 2nd round pick on him and take him. Problem is, we don't know what others would use, therefore we might have to use a higher pick then we'd want, potentially giving up a high pick next year.

ledzeppelin229
05-03-2006, 09:15 PM
I'd rather not use anything higher than a 3rd on him. He might have the talent of a first rounder but any team that takes him is taking a gamble on a headcase...and we've seen Charley's gambles in the past.

Coach C.
05-03-2006, 09:16 PM
If we use anything higher than a second day pick I would be upset. Ahmad Brooks is a tremendous talent and reminds me alot of a young Ray Ray, but his maturity and lack of intelligence makes him a second day selection. Like the Dolphins last year a 5th round pick would suffice. It should be low enough to warrant it anyway.

Brandon420tx
05-03-2006, 09:22 PM
We're taking "High Quality Personality Players" or HQPP for short, anyway, I doubt we'll take him.

YoungTexanFan
05-03-2006, 09:33 PM
We're taking "High Quality Personality Players" or HQPP for short, anyway, I doubt we'll take him.

Talent can't be ignored.

Wolf
05-03-2006, 10:29 PM
I don't know what the potential of the 2007 draft class is... but what I hear is that this guy is good.. yet I wonder with babin/peek and such with our draft ..would we consider this guy?

YoungTexanFan
05-03-2006, 10:34 PM
I don't know what the potential of the 2007 draft class is... but what I hear is that this guy is good.. yet I wonder with babin/peek and such with our draft ..would we consider this guy?

Babin/Peek have nothing to do with Brooks unless one of them is traded for a future pick. Brooks is a MLB, a younger Ray Lewis.

Wolf
05-03-2006, 10:41 PM
Babin/Peek have nothing to do with Brooks unless one of them is traded for a future pick. Brooks is a MLB, a younger Ray Lewis.
I see, i thought I read that he was an OLB... cool

D-ReK
05-04-2006, 02:02 AM
We're taking "High Quality Personality Players" or HQPP for short, anyway, I doubt we'll take him.

This is also the reason that I doubt we take a risk on him...He has the talent to warrant a second round pick, but we will miss the boat and let him go to another team...Let's just hope it isn't Indy, Jacksonville, or Tennessee...

TheOgre
05-04-2006, 10:44 AM
So I didn't really understand what the Supplemental draft was until I read about it more carefully on NFL.com. If what I understand to be true is true, then the Texans will get the first pick in the 2006 supplemental draft.

Teams are not ordered in the same way they are in the regular NFL draft. They take teams and divide them into three record categories (something like 0-16 to 6-10, 7-9 to 9-7, and 10-6+) then draw order (lotto style) in those groups. The Texans could very well end up something like the 7th team in the drawing.

awtysst
05-04-2006, 11:21 AM
Teams are not ordered in the same way they are in the regular NFL draft. They take teams and divide them into three record categories (something like 0-16 to 6-10, 7-9 to 9-7, and 10-6+) then draw order (lotto style) in those groups. The Texans could very well end up something like the 7th team in the drawing.

When does the supplimental draft take place and when do we find out the Texans draft position?

gtexan02
05-04-2006, 12:14 PM
Teams are not ordered in the same way they are in the regular NFL draft. They take teams and divide them into three record categories (something like 0-16 to 6-10, 7-9 to 9-7, and 10-6+) then draw order (lotto style) in those groups. The Texans could very well end up something like the 7th team in the drawing.

Unless the draft has changed since 2004, thats not how it works.

....The NFL would pull names out of a hat to determine the draft order. They would then go down the list, offering each team the chance to make a selection. A team got the chance every round to make its pick. If a team made a pick, they had to forfeit a pick in the subsequent draft -- the bigger draft with the college players. Sometimes, rounds would go by where nobody made a pick. Sometimes the entire draft would go by without a player being picked.

Nowadays it still works the same way, but instead of pulling names out of a hat, the NFL uses the previous year's draft order.....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6452668

BuffSoldier
05-04-2006, 01:12 PM
I would be okay if we used a 3rd rounder. I think that with him at ILB and Ryans at OLB, plus Mario Williams and Travis Johnson not to mention Anthony Weaver who is only 26, we would have one of the bet front 7 in the NFL for years.... If everyone pans out the way they should.

TheOgre
05-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Nowadays it still works the same way, but instead of pulling names out of a hat, the NFL uses the previous year's draft order.....


Okay they must have changed that since we took Hollings (2003 Supplemental). If it hadn't been for that, we would have used a 3rd instead of a 2nd on him (Dallas and Chicago were ahead of us in the supplemental draft despite the fact that we had the 3rd overall pick in the normal draft that year).

bckey
05-04-2006, 02:28 PM
I don't think a 3rd would get him. Someone will probably use at least a 2nd on him. He was projected to be a top 15 pick at one time. If this guy can get his head on straight he might end up being a great player in the nfl.

WILLIEG
05-04-2006, 02:45 PM
I would give up a 2nd for sure but not a !st round.

thunderkyss
05-04-2006, 03:06 PM
so how does this 1st round talent get into the supplemental draft??

Was he not eligible for the regular draft??

Edit Never mind, I read the link of a previous poster.

Texan in Japan
05-04-2006, 05:15 PM
After reading about Ahmad Brooks for two years, he was being hyped as best LB prospect, but recent issues have cost him his college career. What those issues are and how our personnel folks assess his ability to overcome those issues will determine whether we take a shot at Brooks.

From a pure talent and need perspective, he would fit perfectly in HOU. He could be our MLB of the future. Adding him to our young developing defense would be a huge move...if he doesn't waste his potential.

Given his current situation, if after interviews/work-outs Kubiak & Co feel he's a Texan quality guy, then I'd see a 2nd round bid going in.

kastofsna
05-04-2006, 05:39 PM
i don't know why anyone would give up a 1st day pick for him.

swtbound07
05-05-2006, 11:02 AM
i don't know why anyone would give up a 1st day pick for him.

And Vince Young has no shot of going in the top 10 right?

kastofsna
05-05-2006, 12:01 PM
And Vince Young has no shot of going in the top 10 right?
i don't know why anyone would spend a top 10 pick on young.

Wolf
05-06-2006, 12:52 PM
reading his profile, except for maturity (interviews will see where he stands on that) why wouldn't you give up a 2nd on that? reviews shows he can basically do it all .. and if we were to draft him, it isn't necessary that he starts right away unless he does beat out Cowart.

which would/could be a good thing

YoungTexanFan
05-06-2006, 01:55 PM
unless he does beat out Cowart. which would/could be a good thing


He would/could beat out cowart, wong, peek, orr, greenwood easily.

More talent than Ryans, but Ryans has proven he has too much instinct to sit on the bench.

TheRealJoker
05-06-2006, 05:37 PM
Imagine a motivated Brooks AND Demeco Ryans as our linebackers!!!

*Creams pants*

:drool:

keyfro
05-06-2006, 06:02 PM
i think there is something you have to keep in perspective here and that's ahmad brooks plays linebacker...he has some character issues...and that anyone kicked off their team ala marcus vick is not going to merrit a high pick...anyone that thinks the texans especially are going to use anything higher than a 4th round pick on him is only looking at the talent that might be there...he also has several injury problems...he didn't play for most of the 2005 season...and when he did play he was not spectacular by any means...i think some team will probably take a chance on brooks in the supplemental draft but not for anything higher than a 4th rounder and it won't be the texans...probably the raiders

MorKnolle
05-06-2006, 06:38 PM
After using a 2nd rounder on DeMeco Ryans this year I don't see us giving up any kind of high pick next year for another LB, especially one with character issues near those of Marcus Vick and one with injury problems.

YoungTexanFan
05-06-2006, 11:55 PM
After using a 2nd rounder on DeMeco Ryans this year I don't see us giving up any kind of high pick next year for another LB, especially one with character issues near those of Marcus Vick and one with injury problems.

Mork, his character issues are not in the same range as Marcus. He had a maturity problem. His injuries were minor, more of the nagging ones that require rest. When he played, he was not in football shape yet and was rushed back.

PapaL
05-07-2006, 03:23 AM
anyone that thinks the texans especially are going to use anything higher than a 4th round pick on him is only looking at the talent that might be there.

Isn't that the whole purpose of the collegiate draft? To pick someone with talent that might be there? Not like you can draft players who you know can already play in the league.

TheOgre
05-07-2006, 09:17 AM
Imagine a motivated Brooks AND Demeco Ryans as our linebackers!!!

*Creams pants*

:drool:

Some things are better left to oneself.:hides:

TexanFan881
05-07-2006, 12:00 PM
I'm hoping we can get him in the third round :thumbup

MorKnolle
05-07-2006, 12:34 PM
I still doubt the Texans use a future 1st day pick on a guy like him, they are relatively solid at LB now and they aren't ones to spend high picks on guys with character/maturity issues.

threetoedpete
05-11-2006, 02:15 AM
For what it's worth, I would really be upset also if we used anything other than a day two pick on the guy.
1. Don't spend your move up ammo, a year befor you're gonna need it.
353 days, ten hours and fiften minutes.
2. Hollings was a pretty fair prospect also.
3. Wouldn't this be the first real head case on the team ?
I know there's a lot of impatience out there but,... it will come. Give it time.

Wolf
05-20-2006, 05:52 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9447397

possibility of

The paperwork hasn't officially been filed yet for this year's supplemental draft, but there are at least two players who will get a close look from scouts around the league:

* Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.
* Jason Berryman, DE, Iowa State: At about 240 pounds, he's probably a linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. His Pro Day is already set for June 6 at Iowa State, and we'll have reports on that.

Of course, NFL.com will have news on these and other players who file for the supplemental draft, so rest easy. There's more draft analysis on the way!

Smokedawg
05-23-2006, 12:04 AM
So when is the supplemental draft?

rmartin65
05-23-2006, 06:31 PM
So when is the supplemental draft?
July 13

MorKnolle
05-26-2006, 10:33 AM
July 13

Tentatively planned for July 13th from what I saw, and only two players are likely to be looked at: Ahmad Brooks and Jason Berryman, although their paperwork supposedly hasn't been officially filed with the league yet.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9447397

Wolf
05-28-2006, 03:36 PM
Brooks is tentatively scheduled to hold a workout for pro scouts at noon on June 22 at the University of Virginia. Cavaliers head coach Al Groh, along with Brooks' position coach and trainer, will be on hand to talk to the NFL personnel guys before the workout.

Brooks has been training in Atlanta with Chip Smith. As of yesterday, his weight was 274 -- he has a target weight of 265 for the workout. Brooks, who played linebacker in college but might project as a Julius Peppers-type defensive end in the pros, missed six games with a right knee injury last year.

Brooks' father, Perry Brooks was a defensive tackle who was drafted in the seventh round by the Patriots in 1976. He never played for New England but played 92 games for the Washington Redskins.


from the link above.updated on 23rd

# Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.
# Jason Berryman, DE, Iowa State: At about 240 pounds, he's probably a linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. His Pro Day is already set for June 6 at Iowa State, and we'll have reports on that.

WILLIEG
05-31-2006, 12:03 AM
I definently think Brooks is worth giving a 2nd round draft pick in next years draft. The way they should look at is to what position they reasonably expect us to be in during next years draft order. Assuming that my prediction of the team going 8-8 is correct, we would most likely be in that 16-24 range in the 2007 draft. With all the slim pickings in next years draft concerning the MIL postion I would think that acquiring Brooks in the second round of this years Supplemental Draft would allow us to pick up more value compared to the talent at that postion next year.

TexanFan881
05-31-2006, 11:12 AM
If we release Kailee maybe that is a sign...:hmmm:

Trap_Star
05-31-2006, 11:17 AM
If we release Kailee maybe that is a sign...:hmmm:

According to the link above, Brooks is projected as a DE in the NFL. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER DE....:bowser:

kastofsna
05-31-2006, 12:59 PM
brooks is no DE.

TexanFan881
05-31-2006, 01:53 PM
According to the link above, Brooks is projected as a DE in the NFL. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER DE....:bowser:

He'd be a OLB for us.

Greenwood Ryans Brooks

:drool:

MorKnolle
05-31-2006, 07:47 PM
The Texans aren't about to spend a future 2nd round pick on a guy with such a colorful history, I doubt they really look at him anyways, and if they do it won't be with anything higher than a 4th rounder.

YoungTexanFan
06-01-2006, 07:43 PM
According to the link above, Brooks is projected as a DE in the NFL. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER DE....:bowser:

Brooks is not a DE. He has the athletism to play there, but he is a MLB, and the best in the Nation at that.

YoungTexanFan
06-01-2006, 07:44 PM
He'd be a OLB for us.

Greenwood Ryans Brooks

:drool:

Brooks is a MLB, not a OLB. Ryans is more of an OLB. It would look like this:

Greenwood, Brooks, Ryans

Wolf
06-01-2006, 08:03 PM
Brooks is a MLB, not a OLB. Ryans is more of an OLB. It would look like this:

Greenwood, Brooks, Ryans
stop teasing me
:drool:

MorKnolle
06-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Brooks is a MLB, not a OLB. Ryans is more of an OLB. It would look like this:

Greenwood, Brooks, Ryans

Ryans and Greenwood are both more of WLBs, I'd prefer to keep Shantee Orr in there at SLB. I also don't like the idea of picking up a high risk LB unless we get him really cheap, but I think Cowart/Wong/Rainer are perfectly capable of being our MLB. I'd much rather have a more experienced player like them being the QB of our defense than a rookie that was kicked out of college.

TexanFan881
06-01-2006, 09:44 PM
Ryans and Greenwood are both more of WLBs, I'd prefer to keep Shantee Orr in there at SLB. I also don't like the idea of picking up a high risk LB unless we get him really cheap, but I think Cowart/Wong/Rainer are perfectly capable of being our MLB. I'd much rather have a more experienced player like them being the QB of our defense than a rookie that was kicked out of college.

Cowart's getting old and it's showing with his injury already, Wong is likely a June 1st cut with his injury and Ranier is not starter material.

MorKnolle
06-02-2006, 01:06 AM
Cowart's getting old and it's showing with his injury already, Wong is likely a June 1st cut with his injury and Ranier is not starter material.

It's June 2 and Wong is still here, so I don't think we can call him a June 1 cut anymore. I also don't know if I see us cutting him. He is still one of our better LBs, and while he is fairly expensive we aren't in dire need of freeing up cap space (I think we actually lose cap space by cutting him anyways). Wali Rainer has played MLB with the first team thru all three weeks of OTAs so far and sounds like he has held his own quite nicely, and we don't really know what to expect from Cowart yet as he hasn't been able to practice, but he is supposed to be better than Rainer. I personally would not stick a rookie at MLB in this defense as that is the most important person on the field for them and they need to be smart, experienced, and quick thinking, and Brooks hasn't displayed much of any of that yet. I haven't seen a whole lot of him in college, but it seems like he is shaping up to be another LaVar Arrington that is going to drastically underachieve on his potential and athletic abilities, and I would not give up anything above a 4th rounder for him and I don't see the Texans doing it either.

AUSTexan
06-02-2006, 11:32 AM
I usually prefer to read what you guys are saying than contribute redundant thoughts and stuff you guys already know... but I didn't see this posted and I think it adds something. It's from a pay site, so I can't put the link...

The comments about how the draft is ordered conflict with an earlier post here from NFL.com... So while this might be wrong, it's from a usually very reliable writer.

Also, it says he ran a 4.9 40 (though I don't know where he ran it), and it lists him at 265.

My 2 cents on his character problems: It simply looks like the guy likes to smoke a bit too much. So while that might show some immaturity, if there's not some news that I'm missing, it's not near the Marcus Vick level of (allegedly) giving the bird to the fans while on the field, or pulling a gun in a fast food restaurant. The downside is that if it continued in the NFL it would just as easily keep him off the field (possible failed test).

Cheers.

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The early word on Brooks is he is expected to be a second-round pick in the July 13 supplemental draft. He would fit in best as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme but is gifted enough to play defensive end in a 4-3. The question is which team will want to take a chance on his character. Brooks is not likely to get a glowing recommendation from the people at Virginia, his former school.



News

Brooks has applied for, and been accepted, to be part of the NFL’s supplemental draft to be held July 13. Draft order will be determined by a weighted system divided into three groupings:
1) Teams with six or fewer wins last season;
2) Non-playoff teams with more than six wins;
3) The 12 playoff teams.
Teams will submit “bids” for Brooks from their 2007 draft allotment. A team can bid any of its picks, first to seventh round, assuming it hasn’t traded away that pick. The team that bids the highest pick will be awarded Brooks and will forfeit that pick in the 2007 draft. Thirty-two players have been taken in the past 26 Supplemental Drafts.

Brooks is tentatively scheduled to hold a workout for pro scouts at noon on June 22 at Virginia’s campus. He played linebacker in college but projects as a Julius Peppers-type defensive end.

Brooks underwent knee surgery in March 2005, and his slow recovery kept him out of the first three games of last season. He returned for the fourth game but twisted his ankle and was held out of the next game. Brooks played in the next five games but did not participate in Virginia's season finale or the Music City Bowl. He played in just six games last season and finished with just 27 tackles -- tied for 12th on the team.

Brooks has a checkered past, though. He was charged with possession of marijuana in May 2003 but pleaded no contest and the charges were dismissed January 2004.

Brooks -- once thought to be a high first-round prospect -- had announced that he would return to school for his senior season but was kicked off the team by coach Al Groh for failing a drug test. It is unclear what drug Brooks tested positive for recently.
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TexanFan881
06-03-2006, 11:59 AM
It's June 2 and Wong is still here, so I don't think we can call him a June 1 cut anymore. I also don't know if I see us cutting him. He is still one of our better LBs, and while he is fairly expensive we aren't in dire need of freeing up cap space (I think we actually lose cap space by cutting him anyways). Wali Rainer has played MLB with the first team thru all three weeks of OTAs so far and sounds like he has held his own quite nicely, and we don't really know what to expect from Cowart yet as he hasn't been able to practice, but he is supposed to be better than Rainer. I personally would not stick a rookie at MLB in this defense as that is the most important person on the field for them and they need to be smart, experienced, and quick thinking, and Brooks hasn't displayed much of any of that yet. I haven't seen a whole lot of him in college, but it seems like he is shaping up to be another LaVar Arrington that is going to drastically underachieve on his potential and athletic abilities, and I would not give up anything above a 4th rounder for him and I don't see the Texans doing it either.

I don't think just because Wong wasn't cut on the date of June 1st doesn't mean he won't be cut. June 1st cuts can happen after June 1st is passed and two can happen before June 1st.

WILLIEG
06-04-2006, 07:20 AM
I read up on his profile and it said that S.F. was going to have him come out and do some private workouts. It also said that he was weighing about 268 lbs, just 8 lbs from his playing weight in college. Lastly, the update statred he was expecting to run a 4.5 or something in that range. If I knew how to provide the link I would.

Dion2007
06-13-2006, 05:48 PM
I would'nt mind using a 2nd rd pick on this guy. Had he stayed in school, he'd probably be top 15 pick. He needs to grow up and get his act together.:twocents:
Yeah let me say one thing if Texans dont get Brooks i they should get Jason Berryman. Trust me i played high school football with this kid and he is also from houston as well. He's a quaterback worst nightmare. Im not saying because i know him. Im saying he got that raw talent that football instinct to make a play. Yeah he had an anger management problem. I remember when he got fired from his job at whataburger. He flipped over a dumpster. I mean the big ones, the type they need at truck to lift. That was our Junior year headed to our senior year of high school. Now with that type of strength what do you think he can do to someone trying to block him. Think about it
Ryan Greenwood and Berryman as our linebackers.

Wolf
06-14-2006, 08:38 PM
from the link


There were 17 teams at his workout, including John Dorsey (GB), Scott McCloughan (SF) and Kent McCloughan (Scott's father) from the Raiders. That's a large contingent. He worked out indoors on what was considered a slow track. Dorsey conducted the drills, which lasted 45 minutes, and Berryman did a good job.

LB Berryman (6-0¾, 235) was clocked at 4.67 in the 40 (1.61 after 10; 2.71 after 20), 4.39 in the short shuttle, and 7.33 in the three-cone drill. He also had a 9-foot-11 broad jump, a 32-inch vertical jump and 17 lifts.
Update on Brooks, 6/7
Brooks is scheduled to hold a workout for pro scouts at noon on June 22 at the University of Virginia. Cavaliers head coach Al Groh, along with Brooks' position coach and trainer, will be on hand to talk to the NFL personnel guys before the workout.

Brooks has been training in Atlanta with Chip Smith. As of June 7, his weight was 264 -- he has a target weight of 265 for the workout -- and ran a 4.52 in the 40-yard dash, according to his agent. Brooks, who played linebacker in college but might project as a Julius Peppers-type defensive end in the pros, missed six games with a right knee injury last year. He will visit Dr. James Andrews on June 12 for the knee to be examined and that report will be made available to all NFL teams.

Brooks' father, Perry Brooks, was a defensive tackle whom New England drafted in Round 7 in 1976. He never played for New England but played 92 games for Washington.

# Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.

# Jason Berryman, DE, Iowa State: At about 240 pounds, he's probably a linebacker in a 3-4 scheme.

# David Dixon, LB: Dixon is from Galveston, Texas, and last played at Hutchinson Community College in Kansas in 2004.

# Ahmad Hall, FB, Texas: Hall served in the Marines and wasn't eligible for the regular draft. He worked out at Texas' Pro Day on March 22 and was measured at 5-10¾, 232 pounds. He ran his 40s in 4.53 and 4.55 and also had a 35-inch vertical jump, 10-foot-9 long jump, 4.20 short shuttle, 7.21 three-cone drill and 24 bench presses.

Wolf
06-21-2006, 08:40 PM
His workout is supposed to be scheduled tommorrow (june 22) at 12 noon

Señor Stan
06-22-2006, 09:58 PM
His workout is supposed to be scheduled tommorrow (june 22) at 12 noon

here is a link to his results...


http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

rmartin65
06-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Davis Dixon seems like a good player to take a chance on (late round). He runs a 4.4 40yd, 40+ vertical and had tons of tackles. Unfortunately he played juco. What does every body think?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-supplemental060606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

MorKnolle
06-25-2006, 03:59 PM
Davis Dixon seems like a good player to take a chance on (late round). He runs a 4.4 40yd, 40+ vertical and had tons of tackles. Unfortunately he played juco. What does every body think?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-supplemental060606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Dixon's measurables certainly sound pretty nice, although it doesn't mention how big he is or much about his actual on-field skills.

PapaL
06-25-2006, 05:49 PM
Dixon's measurables certainly sound pretty nice, although it doesn't mention how big he is or much about his actual on-field skills.

Height: 6-2 Weight: 244
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=61313

2nd to last player review:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/supdraft06free.php

rmartin65
06-25-2006, 06:29 PM
Height: 6-2 Weight: 244
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=61313

2nd to last player review:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/supdraft06free.php
Thanks for that. I could not find a Bio.

rmartin65
06-26-2006, 12:27 PM
Here's an interesting link explaining the rules of the supp. draft and tells about 4 people in it.
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/index.php?c=2&a=832

And a little more on David Dixon-
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/insider/draft/2006/biosdetail.aspx?fname=David&lname=Dixon&pos=LB

real
06-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Forget about brooks...We need to be looking at that Dixon kid

rmartin65
06-26-2006, 06:24 PM
Forget about brooks...We need to be looking at that Dixon kid
Thats what I said when I started learning about him. His pro day was scheduled for today I believe.

TexanFan881
06-26-2006, 07:35 PM
Thats what I said when I started learning about him. His pro day was scheduled for today I believe.

It is today in Texas of all places :) :yahoo: I like this kid too and I'd rather get him than Brooks because Brooks would cost us a higher draft pick.

rmartin65
06-26-2006, 10:20 PM
It is today in Texas of all places :) :yahoo: I like this kid too and I'd rather get him than Brooks because Brooks would cost us a higher draft pick.
Cool. Does anybodya have his results?

Hutch13
06-28-2006, 11:33 AM
Cool. Does anybodya have his results?


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-dixon062706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns hope that helps

real
06-28-2006, 11:59 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-dixon062706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns hope that helps

Looks like he didn't have that good of a showing...but i still would like the texans to consider him...he shouldn't cost much:)

rmartin65
06-28-2006, 01:22 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-dixon062706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns hope that helps
Thanks. Not quite the performance I thought he could do, but I would still like him in the 5-7th rounds. Good strength.

Dion2007
06-28-2006, 05:11 PM
Looks like he didn't have that good of a showing...but i still would like the texans to consider him...he shouldn't cost much:)

Well im not impressed with his showing in his proday workout and if the texans were to pick in the supplemental draft, they should pick berryman. He a hometown guy in which i do believe if he didnt have character issues he would have been a late 1st round pick or early second round pick. He had an very good workout which nfl scouts were impressed with him and plus i know him personally we were high school teammates. I trust me this guy can play and he could even start for the texans.

real
06-28-2006, 05:23 PM
Well im not impressed with his showing in his proday workout and if the texans were to pick in the supplemental draft, they should pick berryman. He a hometown guy in which i do believe if he didnt have character issues he would have been a late 1st round pick or early second round pick. He had an very good workout which nfl scouts were impressed with him and plus i know him personally we were high school teammates. I trust me this guy can play and he could even start for the texans.

Isn't he a DE ?

Hutch13
06-28-2006, 05:28 PM
Isn't he a DE ?

yes he is a DE

real
06-28-2006, 05:29 PM
yes he is a DE

I think we are pretty much set on the d-line...

rmartin65
06-28-2006, 06:24 PM
Well im not impressed with his showing in his proday workout and if the texans were to pick in the supplemental draft, they should pick berryman. He a hometown guy in which i do believe if he didnt have character issues he would have been a late 1st round pick or early second round pick. He had an very good workout which nfl scouts were impressed with him and plus i know him personally we were high school teammates. I trust me this guy can play and he could even start for the texans.
3 arrests in 3 years does not do it for me.

mexican_texan
06-28-2006, 11:52 PM
Ahmad Brooks nor Berryman will be drafted by the Texans, the FO has shown that character is very important to them.

Dion2007
06-29-2006, 09:24 PM
I think we are pretty much set on the d-line...
Well he played linebacker in high school and was a very good pass rusher he registered 31 sacks in his years in high school. College they put him at rush end because he is so good at rushing the passer.

Dion2007
06-29-2006, 09:29 PM
3 arrests in 3 years does not do it for me.
He just made some dumb mistakes but people do learn which he did learn from that but his 3rd arrest was really not that big of a deal. He just was at a club underage and i know many of folks done that. I just didnt feel as if that should have not caused him to be kicked out of Iowa state.

Dion2007
06-29-2006, 09:34 PM
Ahmad Brooks nor Berryman will be drafted by the Texans, the FO has shown that character is very important to them.
Are you saying that character issues are important to the texans. If so i dont think it that big of a deal to them. Look at Travis Johnson he was there number 1 over all pick last year. he was charged with Sexual Assault but the cases were dropped. Pretty much i just want my friend to join the texans cuz if he do i know he make the team and so i can have a reason to go to the game and be back a texan fan.

TexanFan881
06-29-2006, 09:39 PM
I think it's unlikely we draft anyone in the supplemental draft...theres a 10% chance that we end up with either Brooks, Berryman, or Dixon. I think we're set, and the Texans won't get anyone here, character issues or not.

rmartin65
06-29-2006, 10:29 PM
He just made some dumb mistakes but people do learn which he did learn from that but his 3rd arrest was really not that big of a deal. He just was at a club underage and i know many of folks done that. I just didnt feel as if that should have not caused him to be kicked out of Iowa state.
Some of those were very dumb. He is a good player. But stealing 4 dollars and a cell phone? He had/has great potential to do stuff in this league and he wastes it.

Wolf
07-09-2006, 05:39 PM
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/supdraft06free.php#Dixon

MorKnolle
07-09-2006, 08:33 PM
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/supdraft06free.php#Dixon

Dixon had a pretty impressive workout. I'd at least bring him in for a private workout and an interview and offer up a 7th round pick if he seems like he will end up working out pretty well in the league.

Wolf
07-09-2006, 10:19 PM
SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT NOTES


Ex-Texas fullback Ahmard Hall worked out in front of scouts from the Packers and Tennessee Titans inside the Longhorns' practice bubble on Thursday. Hall, who had previously impressed scouts at the school's pro day in late March, decided to stick with those results and not risk possible injury, but he did catch passes after measuring in at 5-10 and 236 pounds.

Former Delaware wide receiver David Boler, who was deemed to be a free agent by the NFL's player personnel department after the NCAA ruled against his request for an extra year of eligibility, has been receiving interest from a handful of teams, including the Arizona Cardinals. Boler hopes to set up a workout date over the next few weeks.

Northern Illinois linebacker Javan Lee, who learned this week that he will not be given a sixth year of eligibility from the NCAA, planned to contact the NFL's player personnel office to inquire about becoming a supplemental draft prospect or a free agent. Lee could also explore options to attend a NAIA program, since NAIA schools abide by different rules to judge semesters used by student/athletes. A defensive back turned outside linebacker, Lee is roughly 6-foot-2 and 222 pounds with good range. He recorded over 100 tackles before missing what would have been his senior campaign due to hernia surgery. Lee has been estimated to run the 40 in the 4.6-second range.

Ex-Minnesota running back Gary Russell must wait until at least January 2007 in order to make himself eligible for the NFL. Russell, who isn't enrolled at the school after attending a local-area community college to work on his grades earlier this spring, would not qualify for the supplemental draft since he is not yet three years removed from his high school graduation. Russell's father, Gary Sr., has noted to several sources that his son will attempt to transfer to a lower level of college football, but that would have to be a NAIA program since Division I-AA, Division II and Division III schools all abide by the same academic eligibility rules as Division I-A schools (i.e., a student/athlete deemed ineligible cannot participate at any other NCAA level program).


Updated


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AublZyf9ADj21XQtsg2t3PVDubYF?slug=jm-brooks062406&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Hervoyel
07-09-2006, 10:53 PM
I think it's unlikely we draft anyone in the supplemental draft...theres a 10% chance that we end up with either Brooks, Berryman, or Dixon. I think we're set, and the Texans won't get anyone here, character issues or not.

I tend to agree with you. Our years of reaching in the supplemental draft are over and I don't see anyone in here that we're going to make a lot of effort to get. The team has done a lot in one off-season and I don't think anyone there has any illusions about turning the team around in one year. I don't think they feel the need to go looking in here unless someone just jumps out at them. I don't see that guy in here.

CloakNNNdagger
07-10-2006, 03:24 PM
Good summary update to the Supplemental Draft entrees (from Great Blue North).......sort of like the "Dirty Dozen"...Is the TALENT really there?....... can you really TRUST them???:


The NFL will be holding its annual summer supplemental draft on Thursday later this week. Its been acknowledged for a while that former star Virginia LB Ahmad Brooks, Iowa State DE Jason Berryman and junior college LB David Dixon had applied for entry to this week’s draft, however, long-time NFL draft guru Gil Brandt is reporting over at NFL.com that there are actually 7 players entered in this week’s special player lottery. Joining the original three are two former Texas Longhorns, FB Ahmard Hall and DT Marco Martin, along with UConn DT Craig Berry and North Carolina State WR Richard Washington. Former Cavalier Brooks, though, is the prize in this week’s supplemental draft. Indeed, at this time last year, Brooks was being talked about as a potential top 5-10 pick at the 2006 draft if he were to leave school early. Brooks, though, suffered through an injury-plagued 2005 season and then was booted from the team this winter for repeated violations of team rules. Nobody has said anything publicly, but there have been rumors that Brooks tested positive for marijuana on a number of occasions. Brooks reportedly had also ballooned up to close to 290 pounds this winter, but was reportedly down to around 260 when he worked for NFL teams last month and intends to play in the 255 range this fall. Despite the myriad of red flags, the very athletic Brooks- he has actually run kickoffs back for the Cavaliers on occasion – has attracted plenty of attention from pro teams with San Francisco and Miami reportedly the most intrigued. Brooks, though, has also recently interviewed with a number of other teams including Cleveland, Cincinnati, Green Bay and the Giants. As such, there is speculation that Brooks could go as early as the second round of this week’s draft. Unlike the regular NFL draft, the selection order for the supplemental draft is determined by a weighted lottery. Teams are grouped into three groups: teams that won less than 6 games in 2005; other non-playoff teams; and the playoff teams. The order within each group is then determined by a weighted lottery with teams with the worst records having the best chance of having the first pick in each group. The draft is then conducted by teams interested in a player indicating which round they would take that player. The player is awarded to the team indicating the highest pick in the highest round. That team then forfeits its pick in that round at the 2007 draft. There should also be more than passing interest in several of the other players at this year’s supplemental draft. ISU’s Berryman, for example, is a potentially explosive tweener edge rusher; the 6-1, 235-pound Berryman, who 7.5 sacks last fall, also leads the league in off-field troubles; indeed, he spent a year in jail a couple of seasons ago. For his part, LB David Dixon is a very good athlete with sub-4.5 speed, but he never played D1 football because of academic limitations. Meanwhile, UConn’s Berry, at 6-5, 325, has NFL size, although he lacks the athleticism to figure as a more than a RT prospect; while Texas FB Ahmard Hall is a potentially useful lead blocker, although he’s not overly big at just 5-11, 235. On the other hand, DT Martin, the other former Longhorn in this week’s draft, has all the tool’s that NFL teams are looking for in a stud DT including size (6-3, 300) and 4.7 speed, but the one-time star recruit never played much at Texas. Same for NC State WR Washington who isn’t very big (5-10, 170) or fast.