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needlinemen
05-03-2006, 05:08 PM
I was afraid that pea-brained Casserly would ruin yet another draft but thank god Mr. McNair has finally wisened up. Now it's time for that clown to take a hike. I just can't wait for the season to start now!! I have been saying since Day1 we need to build from the ground up. Oh when I think of what could have been had we not had a complete moron as GM giving up so much draft picks for players like Babin and Buchanon. Wasting 2nd and 3rd round picks on back up Qbs and Rbs all while ignoring our most glaring needs and over-paying weak FAs.

We are finally getting a great foundation to build on. :yahoo: We have some of the best OL coaches in the business and that alone will greatly improve our offense especially Carr who I still like cause he is one tough SOB. I predict that under the coaching of Sherman and Kubiak Eric Winston will become an elite Tackle in the league and we can finally move Pitts who is our best linemen right now back to a more natural position at Guard where he can develop into a probowl player. Also if Spencer can lay off the twinkies and fast food we will have one hell of a RG. In a couple of years we can be fielding an OL that looks like this
LT- Winston LG- Pitts C- Flanagan RG- Spencer RT- Wand
While I don't think it should look like that this year that is our future and I'm very excited!! Finally a line that won't get our QB killed.

Now I was surprised we took Williams over Bush but in time I think it will be a wise decision. For those that don't like the pick just look at the Colts. If given the choice who would you take Freeney or James? The Colts let James walk for nothing!! Now we will have a DL that gives QB nightmares. Once Williams develops we will have the next Reggie White. And with P-burnt playing CB do we really want QBs having all day to throw?

Now we have a star at every level on Defense. I nearly chit myself when I saw we drafted DeMeco Ryans. I was sure Billichik would draft him. He is the smartest LB in the draft and he just makes plays. We now have a leader and playmaker we so desperately needed at LBer!!! Now move over AFC the Texans have arrived!!!!!! Professional Football has finally came back to Houston and I love you all!!!!! NOW LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!!

powerfuldragon
05-03-2006, 05:10 PM
Now move over AFC the Texans have arrived!!!!!! NOW LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!!
Yes.

GoneTexan
05-03-2006, 05:49 PM
Ditto....GREAT JOB ALL AROUND!

Let's Go TEXANS 2006 :redtowel: and BEYOND :superman:

WiiBrawler
05-03-2006, 05:59 PM
Day1 we need to build from the ground up. Oh when I think of what could have been had we not had a complete moron as GM giving up so much draft picks for players like Babin and Buchanon. Wasting 2nd and 3rd round picks on back up Qbs and Rbs all while ignoring our most glaring needs and over-paying weak FAs.

Babin wasnt all that bad in his rookie year, he does have the avatar of when he Pancaked the Titans O-lineman.:stirpot:

RTP2110
05-03-2006, 06:14 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that our best draft is the first one in the post Capers era. I think this shows that Casserly really relies on his coaaches inputs and gets the guys the coaches want. Looks like the team is in better hands with Kubiak.

Errant Hothy
05-03-2006, 06:31 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that our best draft is the first one in the post Capers era. I think this shows that Casserly really relies on his coaaches inputs and gets the guys the coaches want. Looks like the team is in better hands with Kubiak.

I agree, but using that logic should we really be so quick to fire Casserley?

IF Cass's main role is to get the players our coaching staff wants, shouldn't previous personnal moves be laid at Caper's feet and not Casserley's?

Shouldn't the blame for Pbuc rest with Fangio, Capers and Hoke?

Shouldn't the resigning of Corey Bradford rest with whatever moron we had as an offsensiv coordinator at the time?

I'm not the fondest of any of the choices Casserley has made for the team, but if he truly targets teh guys his coach's want then how is he to blame for the poor FA signing s and drafts we had in the past?

wrestler4life
05-03-2006, 06:48 PM
I'm not the fondest of any of the choices Casserley has made for the team, but if he truly targets teh guys his coach's want then how is he to blame for the poor FA signing s and drafts we had in the past?
I completely agree. But, he does have to have some discretion???:pigfly:

Texans_Chick
05-03-2006, 06:49 PM
I agree, but using that logic should we really be so quick to fire Casserley?

IF Cass's main role is to get the players our coaching staff wants, shouldn't previous personnal moves be laid at Caper's feet and not Casserley's?

Shouldn't the blame for Pbuc rest with Fangio, Capers and Hoke?

Shouldn't the resigning of Corey Bradford rest with whatever moron we had as an offsensiv coordinator at the time?

I'm not the fondest of any of the choices Casserley has made for the team, but if he truly targets teh guys his coach's want then how is he to blame for the poor FA signing s and drafts we had in the past?

Some observations on this thread:

1. Kubiak at the draft luncheon gave props to Casserly for what he did during the draft and he said he learned some things going through the process.

2. As for PBuc, Kubiak has stated in the post-draft press conference found on houstontexans.com that he thought the secondary was a strength on this team. It is hard to say how much of his struggles were coverage and how much were no pass rush or run defense. They picked PBuc as a cover corner, but that is not the way they used him. And if he is going to have primary responsibility for tackling the likes of Willie Parker and Jerome Bettis, well then, we are gonna get smoked.

gtexan02
05-03-2006, 07:02 PM
I thought this was far and away A) the best draft we've ever had, and B) the best draft of any team in the league. I would rather have had RB, Ferguson, or Hawk (just because I think OL and LB were more positions of need, and because I think (RB : DD) > (Williams : Babin) but Williams will be a beast and was clearly one of the top 2 talents available. Looking at the remaining picks we got incredible guys. Ryans, Winston, Spencer are all starting potential talents, and Daniels and Lundi are guys I hadn't heard of (I admit I get a lot of information on 3rd round and later guys from draft analysis shows which are totally flawed based on combine), but from what I've read, will fit our system perfectly.

I think this fresh new look is very refereshing, and I look forward to seeing how it pans out.

RTP2110
05-03-2006, 08:05 PM
I agree, but using that logic should we really be so quick to fire Casserley?

IF Cass's main role is to get the players our coaching staff wants, shouldn't previous personnal moves be laid at Caper's feet and not Casserley's?

Shouldn't the blame for Pbuc rest with Fangio, Capers and Hoke?

Shouldn't the resigning of Corey Bradford rest with whatever moron we had as an offsensiv coordinator at the time?

I'm not the fondest of any of the choices Casserley has made for the team, but if he truly targets teh guys his coach's want then how is he to blame for the poor FA signing s and drafts we had in the past?

If it came across that way, I actually wasn't trying to place blame on Casserly. I actually think the fault lies with Capers.

Dolby
05-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Wow...what a change. Everyone is congratulating people on a great draft. It is about time.......haha...It is gonna be a great season.

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BigTimeTexanFan
05-03-2006, 08:47 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that our best draft is the first one in the post Capers era. I think this shows that Casserly really relies on his coaaches inputs and gets the guys the coaches want. Looks like the team is in better hands with Kubiak.
Casserly seems to be winning over a lot of people around here. I have been decently impressed with the way he has handled this offseason so far.

I was also impressed with his interview on NFL live today. He seems to be taking responsibility for himself and I really liked how he stood up for Mario Williams. My favorite was "If anyone wants to get angry with someone about the pick, be angry with me". He went on to say how unfair it was for people to be treating Mario the way they did in the begining. I was thoroughly impressed with him today.

MojoX
05-03-2006, 09:06 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that our best draft is the first one in the post Capers era. I think this shows that Casserly really relies on his coaaches inputs and gets the guys the coaches want. Looks like the team is in better hands with Kubiak.
In some interview after the draft, Casserly said that working with Kubiak is the best experience he has had in preparing for the draft with a coach. He said it is great when the coach knows exactly what he wants in a player and communicates that clearly.

Who knows, Casserly and Kubiak might make a good team. If he his gone after the summer, so be it. But if he gets an extension, I won't be surprised.

TexanBorn51
05-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Houston, I'm lovin every minute of it...as a matter of fact ever since 1966 but more than double that this time around. Looking forward to the new resurgence in Texan football and also as a matter of fact you can include next year's draft too the one after that and the one after that. :texflag:

Bobo
05-03-2006, 09:24 PM
If it came across that way, I actually wasn't trying to place blame on Casserly. I actually think the fault lies with Capers.

It's amazing how Capers seems to be blamed for everything now. Funny -- for the first three years, he did very well and took an infant team to within one game of .500. Then all of the sudden he for some reason became stupid and now everything wrong with the franchise is his fault. Yeah, sure. Right.

needlinemen
05-03-2006, 09:45 PM
I agree, but using that logic should we really be so quick to fire Casserley?

IF Cass's main role is to get the players our coaching staff wants, shouldn't previous personnal moves be laid at Caper's feet and not Casserley's?

Shouldn't the blame for Pbuc rest with Fangio, Capers and Hoke?

Shouldn't the resigning of Corey Bradford rest with whatever moron we had as an offsensiv coordinator at the time?

I'm not the fondest of any of the choices Casserley has made for the team, but if he truly targets teh guys his coach's want then how is he to blame for the poor FA signing s and drafts we had in the past?

I'm sorry but Casserly gets no pass from me. The buck stops at his desk. He hired Capers did he not? There is no excuse for putting up a 2-14 record in your 4th year. Casserly drafted and signed not only the coaches but the players before this year. IMO he needs to go now that the draft is over. It looks like we are finally going in the right direction.

RTP2110
05-03-2006, 09:58 PM
It's amazing how Capers seems to be blamed for everything now. Funny -- for the first three years, he did very well and took an infant team to within one game of .500. Then all of the sudden he for some reason became stupid and now everything wrong with the franchise is his fault. Yeah, sure. Right.

Personally, I never did agree with Capers' ultra conservative philosophy. It just goes against everything that defines football, IMO. The thing Capers always got alot of credit for was having a team that always fought and played hard. Now I wasn't saying it's ALL Capers' fault. Obviously it can't all be any one person's fault. It's just that the Texans had thier best draft ever and it's the first one that didn't involve Dom. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe Casserly just pulled a good draft out of his ***. We all know he was due for one.

Bobo
05-03-2006, 10:12 PM
Personally, I never did agree with Capers' ultra conservative philosophy. It just goes against everything that defines football, IMO. The thing Capers always got alot of credit for was having a team that always fought and played hard. Now I wasn't saying it's ALL Capers' fault. Obviously it can't all be any one person's fault. It's just that the Texans had thier best draft ever and it's the first one that didn't involve Dom. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe Casserly just pulled a good draft out of his ***. We all know he was due for one.

This "conservative philosophy" has won Super Bowl after Super Bowl for many, many teams. After all, guys like Trent Dilfer weren't exactly the reason why the Ravens won their SP. And the flashier offensive teams like Indy haven't even got there.

Bobo
05-03-2006, 10:13 PM
It's just that the Texans had thier best draft ever and it's the first one that didn't involve Dom. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe Casserly just pulled a good draft out of his ***. We all know he was due for one.

I didn't realize that the Texans drafted D-Rob, Dom Davis, Andre Johnson and David Carr in this draft as well!

RTP2110
05-03-2006, 10:34 PM
I didn't realize that the Texans drafted D-Rob, Dom Davis, Andre Johnson and David Carr in this draft as well!

That's four years worth of drafting that produced four guys that are worth mentioning. With the exception of Davis all of thoose guys were top 10 overall draft picks.


This "conservative philosophy" has won Super Bowl after Super Bowl for many, many teams. After all, guys like Trent Dilfer weren't exactly the reason why the Ravens won their SP. And the flashier offensive teams like Indy haven't even got there.

I wasn't just talking about offense. Baltimore's offense wasn't conservative, it was just sorry. I'm also talking about on defense. You can't say Baltimore's defense was conservative. However, I do remember a play where the Texans rushed only 2 guys. Just 2. They dropped 9 men in coverage,And still gave up a TD on that play.

BaLou
05-04-2006, 08:13 AM
I think getting Super Mario an Ryans were a brillant moves. Let's see, we finished 30th in offense and 31st in defense in 2005. Which area needed to be upgraded first? Since Kubiak is an offense guy, I'm sure that area will improve with his coaching and with Sherman on board, it's an added bonus to have him coaching the O-Line. I really like where this team is headed (as in the right direction, finally!). I never did care for the Bush circus and I'm glad it's behind us.

kastofsna
05-04-2006, 02:05 PM
i can't see winston playing LT.

Mr. White
05-04-2006, 02:08 PM
i can't see winston playing LT.

His arms are too short. BTW, who's that on your avatar? funny stuff

thunderkyss
05-04-2006, 02:35 PM
I think getting Super Mario an Ryans were a brillant moves. Let's see, we finished 30th in offense and 31st in defense in 2005. Which area needed to be upgraded first? Since Kubiak is an offense guy, I'm sure that area will improve with his coaching and with Sherman on board, it's an added bonus to have him coaching the O-Line. I really like where this team is headed (as in the right direction, finally!). I never did care for the Bush circus and I'm glad it's behind us.

do free agents not count for anything?? We got a Center, a couple WRs, a Fullback.....
Our O is upgraded, and scary.

kingh99
05-04-2006, 03:44 PM
I was afraid that pea-brained Casserly would ruin yet another draft but thank god Mr. McNair has finally wisened up. Now it's time for that clown to take a hike. I just can't wait for the season to start now!! I have been saying since Day1 we need to build from the ground up. Oh when I think of what could have been had we not had a complete moron as GM giving up so much draft picks for players like Babin and Buchanon. Wasting 2nd and 3rd round picks on back up Qbs and Rbs all while ignoring our most glaring needs and over-paying weak FAs.

We are finally getting a great foundation to build on. :yahoo: We have some of the best OL coaches in the business and that alone will greatly improve our offense especially Carr who I still like cause he is one tough SOB. I predict that under the coaching of Sherman and Kubiak Eric Winston will become an elite Tackle in the league and we can finally move Pitts who is our best linemen right now back to a more natural position at Guard where he can develop into a probowl player. Also if Spencer can lay off the twinkies and fast food we will have one hell of a RG. In a couple of years we can be fielding an OL that looks like this
LT- Winston LG- Pitts C- Flanagan RG- Spencer RT- Wand
While I don't think it should look like that this year that is our future and I'm very excited!! Finally a line that won't get our QB killed.

Now I was surprised we took Williams over Bush but in time I think it will be a wise decision. For those that don't like the pick just look at the Colts. If given the choice who would you take Freeney or James? The Colts let James walk for nothing!! Now we will have a DL that gives QB nightmares. Once Williams develops we will have the next Reggie White. And with P-burnt playing CB do we really want QBs having all day to throw?

Now we have a star at every level on Defense. I nearly chit myself when I saw we drafted DeMeco Ryans. I was sure Billichik would draft him. He is the smartest LB in the draft and he just makes plays. We now have a leader and playmaker we so desperately needed at LBer!!! Now move over AFC the Texans have arrived!!!!!! Professional Football has finally came back to Houston and I love you all!!!!! NOW LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!!

It was the masterblaster draft. Demeco is the whiphand for Williams.

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Bobo
05-04-2006, 04:07 PM
do free agents not count for anything?? We got a Center, a couple WRs, a Fullback.....
Our O is upgraded, and scary.

Flanagan is an injury waiting to happen and is very old. I think his addition is being way, way overestimated. The fullback isn't much either. Walter has caught, what, 30 passes in 3 years and one TD? And Moulds is on the downhill part of his career, as shown in his 10 TDs in three years. This team isn't going to be upgraded by FAs to any real extent. The future stars come from the draft, not retreads.

swtbound07
05-04-2006, 04:08 PM
i can't see winston playing LT.


Uh oh....kast made a prediction. Lets lock winston into the probowl now.

Bobo
05-04-2006, 04:11 PM
That's four years worth of drafting that produced four guys that are worth mentioning. With the exception of Davis all of thoose guys were top 10 overall draft picks.

You just proved my point -- the Texans did indeed do something in the draft before this year. And I'm hazarding a guess and saying that you don't think these guys were busts -- no matter where they were drafted. I think Faggins was a pretty decent pick, too. We could go on and on and also we might want to point out that the most recent drafts are yet to be proven one way or the other. After all, it took awhile to show that the Bengals blew it with Akili Smith as did the Chargers with Ryan Leaf while Manning was just awful with the Colts for the first two years.

thunderkyss
05-04-2006, 04:24 PM
Flanagan is an injury waiting to happen and is very old. I think his addition is being way, way overestimated. The fullback isn't much either. Walter has caught, what, 30 passes in 3 years and one TD? And Moulds is on the downhill part of his career, as shown in his 10 TDs in three years. This team isn't going to be upgraded by FAs to any real extent. The future stars come from the draft, not retreads.

These guys all came into start.. more than you can expect from most draft picks. As long as you're thinking draft or free agency, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Moulds is an upgrade over Bradford+Gaffney..... Cook gives us something Norris didn't, and Walter is almost a sure thing, in the role he will be playing.

Are these guys going to be here 10 years from now?? Maybe. Wells, no. But they can definitely get us there...

Look at what Joe Horn did in Miami........ who remembers that Marshall Faulk was a Colt?? warrick Dunn used to be a Buccaneer, Eddie Kennison, Joe Jurivicious, they've played for many teams, contributed, and helped define their teams....... McCardell, Terry Glenn...... Aaron Glenn.... the list goes on & on. FA pick-ups are very important to the development of a team, especially a young team.

Bobo
05-04-2006, 04:44 PM
These guys all came into start.. more than you can expect from most draft picks. As long as you're thinking draft or free agency, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Moulds is an upgrade over Bradford+Gaffney..... Cook gives us something Norris didn't, and Walter is almost a sure thing, in the role he will be playing.

Are these guys going to be here 10 years from now?? Maybe. Wells, no. But they can definitely get us there...

Look at what Joe Horn did in Miami........ who remembers that Marshall Faulk was a Colt?? warrick Dunn used to be a Buccaneer, Eddie Kennison, Joe Jurivicious, they've played for many teams, contributed, and helped define their teams....... McCardell, Terry Glenn...... Aaron Glenn.... the list goes on & on. FA pick-ups are very important to the development of a team, especially a young team.

A.) Cowart may not start. Rosenfeldts certainly won't start. Walter won't start. Cook will probably start, but I don't think he'll give the Texans much more than Norris did. After all, Norris wasn't bad at all. I don't think much of that move. But whatever. And I certainly wouldn't call a guy who caught 30 passes in three years for 1 TD a "sure thing" anywhere, unless you don't care much about production. Moulds may be an upgrade over Bradford as I don't see how he can drop any more long home run balls than Bradford did, but that's not saying much. And I would argue that Moulds is an upgrade over Gaffney. Gaffney is younger than Moulds and has his whole career ahead of him while Moulds is in his declining years. Meanwhile, the first four draft picks of the Texans will start. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
B.) The comparisons you are making FA wise are apples and oranges. It's a real stretch to compare Walter with Joe Horn or McCardell or Terry Glenn. Most of the FAs the Texans picked up were mid to lower level guys. They aren't going to contribute a whole lot. I think that's obvious to everybody except the biggest pom pom waver.

kingh99
05-04-2006, 05:06 PM
A.) Cowart may not start. Rosenfeldts certainly won't start. Walter won't start. Cook will probably start, but I don't think he'll give the Texans much more than Norris did. After all, Norris wasn't bad at all. I don't think much of that move. But whatever. And I certainly wouldn't call a guy who caught 30 passes in three years for 1 TD a "sure thing" anywhere, unless you don't care much about production. Moulds may be an upgrade over Bradford as I don't see how he can drop any more long home run balls than Bradford did, but that's not saying much. And I would argue that Moulds is an upgrade over Gaffney. Gaffney is younger than Moulds and has his whole career ahead of him while Moulds is in his declining years. Meanwhile, the first four draft picks of the Texans will start. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
B.) The comparisons you are making FA wise are apples and oranges. It's a real stretch to compare Walter with Joe Horn or McCardell or Terry Glenn. Most of the FAs the Texans picked up were mid to lower level guys. They aren't going to contribute a whole lot. I think that's obvious to everybody except the biggest pom pom waver.\

Walters is a special teams cog. so he'll start inasmuch as he'll be a key part of special teams.

Gaffney is an NFL bust. By the time Moulds was in his 4th year he was established as the man. Gaffney's career is ahead of him? I don't think so.

RTP2110
05-04-2006, 06:34 PM
B.) The comparisons you are making FA wise are apples and oranges. It's a real stretch to compare Walter with Joe Horn or McCardell or Terry Glenn. Most of the FAs the Texans picked up were mid to lower level guys. They aren't going to contribute a whole lot. I think that's obvious to everybody except the biggest pom pom waver.

I think his point was that nobody really thought much of those guys, like people don't think to much of our signings. But look how those guys were able to blossom after switching teams.

thunderkyss
05-04-2006, 11:20 PM
A.) Cowart may not start. Rosenfeldts certainly won't start.

Cowart is may very well start. Rosenfeldts by week 8, may be starting also.

Walter won't start. Cook will probably start, but I don't think he'll give the Texans much more than Norris did. After all, Norris wasn't bad at all. I don't think much of that move. But whatever.
I'm not sure what Kubes has got planed for Cook, to tell you the truth.... but he is one of the guys he went after, and was excited to sign........ then we added a second tightend, & he's talking about replacing the full back.
And I certainly wouldn't call a guy who caught 30 passes in three years for 1 TD a "sure thing" anywhere, unless you don't care much about production.
I'm thinking Jurivicious, Keith Poole, kinda thing...... 3rd wideout that you can count on.
Moulds may be an upgrade over Bradford as I don't see how he can drop any more long home run balls than Bradford did, but that's not saying much. And I would argue that Moulds is an upgrade over Gaffney. Gaffney is younger than Moulds and has his whole career ahead of him while Moulds is in his declining years.
We've got reason to believe Moulds will catch for 1000 yards in '06, '07, & maybe even '08.......... no reason to believe Gaffney will.
Meanwhile, the first four draft picks of the Texans will start. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Spencer won't start. Eric Winston is a probable at right tackle. the other two are on Defense........ so yeah, they'll probably start.

B.) The comparisons you are making FA wise are apples and oranges. It's a real stretch to compare Walter with Joe Horn or McCardell or Terry Glenn. Most of the FAs the Texans picked up were mid to lower level guys. They aren't going to contribute a whole lot. I think that's obvious to everybody except the biggest pom pom waver.

Joe Horn was the third Reciever for the Kansas City Chiefs in 1999. They didn't think much of him, and let him go to New Orleans....... He's been to the proBowl a couple times since then....... Today, the other two recievers are not on the Kansas City Chiefs......... for the life of me, I can't remember who they were.
McCardell's been on every team you can think of, including an expansion team, Never one for consistency, but he helped out SanDiego in what success they've had in recent history.
Terry Glenn is a big Part of the Cowboys now..... even though he was thought to be over the hill, and that he had lost a step.

Only time will tell what Walter & Rosenfelts will do.

Bobo
05-05-2006, 12:28 AM
Cowart is may very well start. Rosenfeldts by week 8, may be starting also.

I'm not sure what Kubes has got planed for Cook, to tell you the truth.... but he is one of the guys he went after, and was excited to sign........ then we added a second tightend, & he's talking about replacing the full back.

I'm thinking Jurivicious, Keith Poole, kinda thing...... 3rd wideout that you can count on.

We've got reason to believe Moulds will catch for 1000 yards in '06, '07, & maybe even '08.......... no reason to believe Gaffney will.

Spencer won't start. Eric Winston is a probable at right tackle. the other two are on Defense........ so yeah, they'll probably start.


Joe Horn was the third Reciever for the Kansas City Chiefs in 1999. They didn't think much of him, and let him go to New Orleans....... He's been to the proBowl a couple times since then....... Today, the other two recievers are not on the Kansas City Chiefs......... for the life of me, I can't remember who they were.
McCardell's been on every team you can think of, including an expansion team, Never one for consistency, but he helped out SanDiego in what success they've had in recent history.
Terry Glenn is a big Part of the Cowboys now..... even though he was thought to be over the hill, and that he had lost a step.

Only time will tell what Walter & Rosenfelts will do.

Cowart is not a sure start and, with Moulds descending in production year after year, I don't think you can expect 1,000 yards from him any more than you could have expected the same from Gaffney under similar circumstances. McCardell's always been a good WR -- he certainly has never flown under the radar. And I don't think Walter is an example of an over-the-hill guy who could make good. Terry Glenn's stats have always been better than Walter's -- a lot better. As far as Jurevicious-type stuff goes, hasn't Armstrong fulfilled that need just fine?

Porky
05-05-2006, 09:27 AM
You just proved my point -- the Texans did indeed do something in the draft before this year. And I'm hazarding a guess and saying that you don't think these guys were busts -- no matter where they were drafted. I think Faggins was a pretty decent pick, too. We could go on and on and also we might want to point out that the most recent drafts are yet to be proven one way or the other. After all, it took awhile to show that the Bengals blew it with Akili Smith as did the Chargers with Ryan Leaf while Manning was just awful with the Colts for the first two years.

Hilarious. We are the only expansion team in history to not have a record above 500 within 4 years, and you are arguing for the previous coaches. Funny as hell. Ya, most 2-14 teams have drafted great in the previous 3 years. :sarcasm:

phil2366
05-05-2006, 10:15 AM
I'm not sure if most of these we picked up will start or not but we did do one very important thing with our FA picks. They are all quality leaders with leadership abilities. Our no players over 30 rule has really hurt our young players development in my opinion. I was not pleased with Sharpers performance but he was the defensive QB and focused our young D.