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tsip
05-02-2006, 04:50 PM
Once again, the Pats had one of the highest ranked drafts. For some reason, they almost always draft a player from a Texas school. This year, they picked David Thomas/UT---Pats love those TE's!!:yahoo:

Texans Horror
05-02-2006, 07:16 PM
I was really happy to hear that Dave is going to be taking catches from Brady. I think he will be a very capable TE and a real threat to the other AFC teams...I just hope we're not one of them...

TreWardTxn
05-02-2006, 07:19 PM
There is no way Thomas beats out Watson or Graham for signficant playing time this season. He might get one when the pats let Graham go in a year or two...

Texans Horror
05-02-2006, 07:45 PM
Like most third and fourth rounders, Dave is a "project." I don't think the intention was ever to start him over Graham. Until it is his time, he is there for depth only.

tsip
05-02-2006, 10:06 PM
Like most third and fourth rounders, Dave is a "project." I don't think the intention was ever to start him over Graham. Until it is his time, he is there for depth only.

I disagree. I don't think most 3rd/4th rounders are projects. Thats when we got our OL this year, and they have a chance to start. If a team can only count on rounds 1/2 for non=projects, then they're IMO in trouble. Besides, 1st day picks are in a class by themselves and that includes the 3rd round, of course.

mexican_texan
05-02-2006, 10:10 PM
He's not a TE, he's an H-back, which oddly, is the actual term for running back.

tsip
05-02-2006, 10:45 PM
He's not a TE, he's an H-back, which oddly, is the actual term for running back.

Where do you get that? He's over 6'3"/252lbs and started 4 yrs at TE for UT!

mexican_texan
05-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Where do you get that? He's over 6'3"/252lbs and started 4 yrs at TE for UT!
A TE with hands like his don't go that late. He's too small for TE, its all over his scouting reports.

tsip
05-02-2006, 10:51 PM
A TE with hands like his don't go that late. He's too small for TE, its all over his scouting reports.

He's alot bigger for an h-back than small for a TE--what scouting reports are you talking about?

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=32011

Pats only praise him as a TE, nothing about an H-back, which the Pats are not known for anyway...

mexican_texan
05-02-2006, 10:54 PM
He's alot bigger for an h-back than small for a TE--what scouting reports are you talking about?

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=32011

Pats only praise him as a TE, nothing about an H-back, which the Pats are not known for anyway...
NFL Live, most draft shows, this board....

tsip
05-02-2006, 10:55 PM
A TE with hands like his don't go that late. He's too small for TE, its all over his scouting reports.

Also, the TE the Texans drafted is smaller than Thomas--does that mean the Texans will use him as an H-back?...just curious

tsip
05-02-2006, 10:57 PM
NFL Live, most draft shows, this board....


...how about just ONE link to back this up....

tsip
05-03-2006, 01:37 AM
A TE with hands like his don't go that late. He's too small for TE, its all over his scouting reports.


...fyi, NE has 4 TE's on the roster--3 are 6'3" and Mills is 6'1"--Thomas's most recent weight was 252, which puts him in-line with 2 of the other 3 who are listed at 253/257--Mills is at 227, maybe he was the one you were thinking of at H-back!!

...14 of the 24 TEs at the combine were 6'3" or under

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/combine/positions/te.html

texanskan
05-03-2006, 02:14 AM
A TE with hands like his don't go that late. He's too small for TE, its all over his scouting reports.

FYI, David Thomas catches everything.

mexican_texan
05-03-2006, 03:52 PM
Also, the TE the Texans drafted is smaller than Thomas--does that mean the Texans will use him as an H-back?...just curious
Yup. Even Vinnie said so.


FYI, David Thomas catches everything.

Yeah he does.

mexican_texan
05-03-2006, 03:53 PM
...how about just ONE link to back this up....
www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards

real
05-03-2006, 04:34 PM
www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards


Thats a lame link....

mexican_texan
05-03-2006, 04:37 PM
Round 3/86 David Thomas, TE, 6-3, 246, Texas

While tight end may not have been one of New England's top needs heading into draft weekend, the team's propensity for multiple tight end sets makes the Thomas pick a solid selection. The well-rounded Longhorn fills the void left by Christian Fauria and joins Benjamin Watson and Daniel Graham to give the Patriots a trio of young, versatile tight ends to work with on game day. Thomas will initially be an extra body, H-back type and special teams contributor, but with Graham heading to free agency next spring the third-rounder could end up a starter down the road. Thomas isn't as spectacular as his new tight end teammates, but his solid numbers, including 88 catches with 15 touchdowns over his four seasons in Texas should convert to a consistent professional.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/patriots/home.htm

tsip
05-03-2006, 05:09 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/patriots/home.htm


"Add in Thomas' potential role as a solid if not spectacular third tight end,"


Your quote mentions Thomas as a tight end several times in the long article,with the one reference to H-Back--still waiting for more info on why you think he is short, when he's the same size/range as the other NE TE's and most of the TE's at the combine....

mexican_texan
05-03-2006, 05:18 PM
"Add in Thomas' potential role as a solid if not spectacular third tight end,"


Your quote mentions Thomas as a tight end several times in the long article,with the one reference to H-Back--still waiting for more info on why you think he is short, when he's the same size/range as the other NE TE's and most of the TE's at the combine....
I said small, not short. There's a difference. He is not much bigger than Mills.

tsip
05-03-2006, 05:27 PM
I said small, not short. There's a difference. He is not much bigger than Mills.


...please explain. Thomas and the 2 starting NE TE's all out weigh Mills by about 30 lbs---not much bigger than Mills!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mexican_texan
05-03-2006, 05:32 PM
...please explain. Thomas and the 2 starting NE TE's all out weigh Mills by about 30 lbs---not much bigger than Mills!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mills has more body mass.

tsip
05-03-2006, 05:34 PM
laughing...Comedy Central, anyone?

texasguy346
05-04-2006, 08:20 AM
They've actually taken quite a few Baylor players. This year they took Willie Andrews. Perhaps the key to success in the NFL is taking Baylor players.

CaptainPatriot
05-04-2006, 11:43 AM
There is no way Thomas beats out Watson or Graham for signficant playing time this season. He might get one when the pats let Graham go in a year or two...

PATS use 3 TE`s at times plus special teams. Mills looks pretty good he will be used at FB. Injuries to Graham and Watson over the yrs. probably made them draft that high for TE`s and the loss of a TE to FA.

tsip
05-04-2006, 04:10 PM
They've actually taken quite a few Baylor players. This year they took Willie Andrews. Perhaps the key to success in the NFL is taking Baylor players.

Pats have a history of drafting players out of Texas schools that do very well for them--don't know why the Texans or Cowboys always look elsewhere!! Hey, not to complain, we had a great draft!! My nephew (Rice) married a Baylor girl............

mancunian
05-06-2006, 02:55 AM
He's not a TE, he's an H-back, which oddly, is the actual term for running back.

I thought H back was a hybrid TE/FB type of guy.

Texans Horror
05-06-2006, 09:45 AM
I disagree. I don't think most 3rd/4th rounders are projects. Thats when we got our OL this year, and they have a chance to start. If a team can only count on rounds 1/2 for non=projects, then they're IMO in trouble. Besides, 1st day picks are in a class by themselves and that includes the 3rd round, of course.

Especially linemen. They may play special teams, but unless injuries, etc. affect the outcome, I don't think we will see our linemen on the fields. I, too, have heard the rumor that the Pats could want Dave to play Halfback. Personally, I don't care. He'll be successful wherever they put him. I just look forward to seeing him play someday in the NFL.

Trapped
05-08-2006, 10:45 AM
I think the Patriots had the best draft. Seems like they always do.

Maroney was an excellent pick, Dillion is not getting any younger.
Chad Jackson was a steal, they lost Givens, so they bring imo the best wr in the draft.

Dave Thomas and Garret Mills are great unsung heroes who will contribute immediately for them.

Just because they are the Patriots, i expect one of those guards they drafted in day 2 to become eventual starters by next year.