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UGA
04-29-2006, 08:51 PM
I think we are morons for passing up Bush and Young. We are the laughing stock of the entire football universe right now. Only the texans could pass up two elite players like that...

With that said i belive this is our best draft ever! lol

Its taken years for the team to realize that you have to build a team from the inside out, and at the very least im glad that we have finally used our picks to address the team as such. 2 olineman, 2 front seven defenders... somebody finally got a clue around town. these werent sexy picks, but i belive they might be our most effective to this point. games are generally won in the trenches, and we are extremely weak on both sides.

so while i think weve probably picked Sam Bowie ahead of Micheal Jordan, at least the picks were used in the best way possible otherwise.

on a personal note i wish we would have nabbed TE leonard pope with one of our 2 third rounders. he is a physical monster with insanely soft hands. oh well....

Bobo
04-29-2006, 08:54 PM
I think we are morons for passing up Bush and Young. We are the laughing stock of the entire football universe right now. Only the texans could pass up two elite players like that...

You act like the only players on the field are QBs and RBs.

UGA
04-29-2006, 09:00 PM
You act like the only players on the field are QBs and RBs.

look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.

yes there are more players on the field, but few who have such a dramatic effect on the outcome.

btw what were the qb and rb combos for the teams those played to get in the superbowl?

manning, james, delhomme and goings. 3 more pro bowlers out of 4.

see the trend?

TFL
04-29-2006, 09:04 PM
I think we are morons for passing up Bush and Young. We are the laughing stock of the entire football universe right now. Only the texans could pass up two elite players like that...

With that said i belive this is our best draft ever! lol

Its taken years for the team to realize that you have to build a team from the inside out, and at the very least im glad that we have finally used our picks to address the team as such. 2 olineman, 2 front seven defenders... somebody finally got a clue around town. these werent sexy picks, but i belive they might be our most effective to this point. games are generally won in the trenches, and we are extremely weak on both sides.

so while i think weve probably picked Sam Bowie ahead of Micheal Jordan, at least the picks were used in the best way possible otherwise.

on a personal note i wish we would have nabbed TE leonard pope with one of our 2 third rounders. he is a physical monster with insanely soft hands. oh well....

Alot people think Mario Williams is a elite player also. Right now Mario has to prove himslef though.

WildBlackBear32
04-29-2006, 09:06 PM
look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.

yes there are more players on the field, but few who have such a dramatic effect on the outcome.

btw what were the qb and rb combos for the teams those played to get in the superbowl?

manning, james, delhomme and goings. 3 more pro bowlers out of 4.

see the trend?

Despite what the Pro Bowl rosters may say, Roethlisberger is NOT a pro bowl calibre QB. The only thing Pro-Bowl-esque Ben has is his passer rating due to his lack of attempts.

UGA
04-29-2006, 09:08 PM
Despite what the Pro Bowl rosters may say, Roethlisberger is NOT a pro bowl calibre QB. The only thing Pro-Bowl-esque Ben has is his passer rating due to his lack of attempts.

31 other teams would take Ben over Carr!

killeentexan
04-29-2006, 09:09 PM
look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.


and Hasslebeck was taken in the 6th round while Parker went undrafted........so what kind of trend are we looking at?

UGA
04-29-2006, 09:14 PM
and Hasslebeck was taken in the 6th round while Parker went undrafted........so what kind of trend are we looking at?

its quite obvious and elementary despite your most loyal apologist attempts.

btw, i do belive this was our best draft EVER!

TexansNeedRBin05
04-29-2006, 10:31 PM
It was forsure the best 3rd round ever! :redtowel:

ClintonPortis26
04-29-2006, 10:35 PM
I personally think the Texans had a great draft. Look, the Houston Texans are basically a new franchise still with no identity, no defense,no offense. Your franchises face is David Carr for crying out loud(not that hes bad, I think he can be a good QB). What you need to do is basically just say to yourselves "Ignore the flavor of the day" which is Reggie Bush and Vince Young and say "Let's build this team from the line up" and you did that by taken in my opinion a 5-Star Defensive Lineman Prospect and two offensive lineman prospects that could be average offensive line starters in this league.

Then after that you drafted a very underrated Linebacker who was arguably one of the best Linebackers in the country last season and was the leader of that Alabama Defense last season in DeMeco Ryans. The only things people have againts Ryans is his size and athletisism and look what short Linebackers such as Johnathon Vilma and Antonio Pierce are doing these days.

In my Opinion you guys had a great first day despite passing on Reggie Bush and the born-to-dissapoint in the nfl Quarterback in Vince Young.

texanskan
04-29-2006, 10:42 PM
So far best draft ever!

But I am so pissed off!

Ihategeeks
04-30-2006, 12:23 AM
You guys got both of my favorite players in the draft.
Winston and Williams.

That can't be a good sign.

New_Texans
04-30-2006, 01:37 AM
look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.

yes there are more players on the field, but few who have such a dramatic effect on the outcome.

btw what were the qb and rb combos for the teams those played to get in the superbowl?

manning, james, delhomme and goings. 3 more pro bowlers out of 4.

see the trend?

They also had something called a Defense and PLAYMAKERS on DEFENSE

The TEXANS now have 1 playmaker (Dunta) and another potential Playmaker in Super Mario who could be Jevon Kearse Jr. (hopefully with less injuries).

The Texans had an extremely good 1st day of the draft.

Calm Down and think about what the texans did even though they passed up the so-called future hall of famers (even though i noticed that VY cant through the ball in small windows...which is bugging me cause i want him to do well and Reggie didnt look to enthusiastic at all today maybe hes just like that...:confused: but i think hes going to be awesome but just kinda like Marshall Faulk not Gale Sawyers cause Gale Sawyers would run over u too and stiff arm u in the face...Bush isnt as physical of a runner).

The texans had a great draft and im excited about this team they finally have real depth in the team.

txnguy
04-30-2006, 02:58 AM
I don't know who is making the decisions for our team, but not taking BUSH, has got to be the stupidest decision in history. A player like Bush comes once per decade. You have to take him. He is an immediate impact player. And yes, everyone can fool themselves and say Mario Williams is a good pick. But face it, Mario Williams is not a 1st round pick like Reggie Bush. Mario Williams is a very inconsistant player. Sometimes he plays at 100%, and other times he doesn't. At one point, Mario Williams had only 1 sack in his first 5 games. It took his coach at S Carolina State to straighten him out and get his focus back. Reggie Bush doesn't need this type of coddling. Yes, I am upset, and I have good reason. With decisions like this, I forsee another lack luster year for our offense.

erasethevirus
04-30-2006, 03:03 AM
so while i think weve probably picked Sam Bowie ahead of Micheal Jordan, at least the picks were used in the best way possible otherwise....




i think we got the olajuwon instead of the jordan, not the bowie, just like an'84

MorKnolle
04-30-2006, 03:42 AM
Easily our best draft in years, the media won't give us credit for it since we took Mario instead of Reggie (and made every single media "expert" look like an idiot in the process for missing on the #1 overall pick), but our whole 1st day has been great (granted you should have nice picks after a 2-14 season). However, we got lucky with Winston and Spencer falling to us but we took both of them and should beef our OLine, maybe not at the start of this season but by the end of it we should be looking a lot better there, we got one of the top 5 LBs in this draft in the 2nd round, and we got the best DE since I don't know when at #1. For once we're not right at the bottom of the league in terms of draft quality, I'd say we have one of the top 5 drafts going right now. Definitely a good sign of things to come.

Malloy
04-30-2006, 04:17 AM
I don't know who is making the decisions for our team, but not taking BUSH, has got to be the stupidest decision in history. A player like Bush comes once per decade. You have to take him. He is an immediate impact player. And yes, everyone can fool themselves and say Mario Williams is a good pick. But face it, Mario Williams is not a 1st round pick like Reggie Bush. Mario Williams is a very inconsistant player. Sometimes he plays at 100%, and other times he doesn't.

Well, obviously Mario was a first round pick, which in turn makes your post look real dumb :)

kingh99
04-30-2006, 05:34 AM
i think we got the olajuwon instead of the jordan, not the bowie, just like an'84

If we just got our Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas I'll be cool with Bush badmouthing his way to Los Ange... err New Orleans. I'm beginning to think he was looking out two years and the league didn't have a problem at all with him placating NO fans until the sad decision gets announced to move the team to LA.

/adjusts tinfoil

UGA
04-30-2006, 07:49 AM
ive had a night to sit on this draft and i pretty much feel the same way.

i think we screwed up bigtime, but i do think they improved the team with the other 4 picks. if they were going to blow the draft at least they would go with oline and front seven defenders. we cannot deny that williams and ryans are top caliber defensive players that will certainly help our swiss cheese d. the oline picks were pretty solid, though i would have liked to get Pope with Winston instead.

but i do find it intresting that we are the only team in the league scared enough blow a no brainer first pick. we should have traded down a couple spots for williams at the very least. if you dont have the stones to pick Bush, you should have gotten some value for Williams. even if it was just a third rounder to go back a couple picks, we should have gotten something in return for bypassing two players like Bush and Young. NO wanted a Walker type deal for their pick, but we could have settled for anything to increase the value of selecting Williams.

infantrycak
04-30-2006, 09:01 AM
look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.

yes there are more players on the field, but few who have such a dramatic effect on the outcome.

btw what were the qb and rb combos for the teams those played to get in the superbowl?

manning, james, delhomme and goings. 3 more pro bowlers out of 4.

see the trend?

Let's see--Alan Faneca, Jeff Hartings, Casey Hampton, Joey Porter, Troy Polamalu, Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, Robbie Tobeck, Mack Strong, Lofa Tatupa...

Yeah, I am seeing a trend--probowl QB's and RB's don't get to the SB without a supporting cast. But wait how about that 2nd tier of playing to be in the SB...

Julius Peppers, Mike Wahle, Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Cato June, Bob Sanders.

Yup, trend still there--it takes a team.

Maddict5
04-30-2006, 09:36 AM
but i do find it intresting that we are the only team in the league scared enough blow a no brainer first pick. we should have traded down a couple spots for williams at the very least. if you dont have the stones to pick Bush, you should have gotten some value for Williams. even if it was just a third rounder to go back a couple picks, we should have gotten something in return for bypassing two players like Bush and Young. NO wanted a Walker type deal for their pick, but we could have settled for anything to increase the value of selecting Williams.

yeah could you imagine the outcry and criticism we would've gotten if we had picked reggie. it would've taken some balls to take him alright:rolleyes:

im not saying it was the right or wrong decision but taking mario was the unpopular pick and the 1 that took most 'stones'

they took mario because he was their choice of BPA, with reggie 2nd- so if we traded down some- for a 3rd rounder, like you suggest, and lost both it would've been real nice wouldn't it?? Mario was projected to the saints so it could well have happened

they're the fools though, not you:homer:

UGA
05-01-2006, 11:53 AM
yeah could you imagine the outcry and criticism we would've gotten if we had picked reggie. it would've taken some balls to take him alright:rolleyes:

im not saying it was the right or wrong decision but taking mario was the unpopular pick and the 1 that took most 'stones'

they took mario because he was their choice of BPA, with reggie 2nd- so if we traded down some- for a 3rd rounder, like you suggest, and lost both it would've been real nice wouldn't it?? Mario was projected to the saints so it could well have happened

they're the fools though, not you:homer:

and if we go to the 3rd or 4th pick, we could have still landed B'brick or Williams. nobody was going to trade up to get either of those players.

if your going to blow a no brainer draft, then at least get some value in the process. i like Williams as a player, i do not think he is a #1 pick type of player... especially with Bush and Young in the fold.

btw, id doesnt take stones to bypass Bush, it takes stupidity. someone with stones never waivers, we flopped on our pick Thursday night. it was Bush up until 2 nights before the draft.

Double Barrel
05-01-2006, 12:15 PM
I don't know who is making the decisions for our team,

That would be Coach Kubiak.

But face it, Mario Williams is not a 1st round pick like Reggie Bush.

He is now!! :redtowel:

I agree with the original poster about this being a great draft. I can't wait to see our defense in action next season!

Ibar_Harry
05-01-2006, 12:22 PM
I don't know who is making the decisions for our team, but not taking BUSH, has got to be the stupidest decision in history. A player like Bush comes once per decade. You have to take him. He is an immediate impact player. And yes, everyone can fool themselves and say Mario Williams is a good pick. But face it, Mario Williams is not a 1st round pick like Reggie Bush.

"The more Kubiak studies Williams, the more he sees freakish athletic sequences that are matched by few other NFL ends he has studied in his 12 pro seasons."

And the answer is Kubiak.

dalemurphy
05-01-2006, 01:07 PM
look at the last superbowl....

Hasslebeck, Alexander, Rothlesburger (sp?) and Parker. 3 of the 4 were probowlers and Parker was a 1000+ yard rusher.

yes there are more players on the field, but few who have such a dramatic effect on the outcome.



you don't understand football. this isn't the NBA. What you don't seem to fathom is that Pittsburgh and Seattle probably had the two best OLs in the NFL last year. I guess that's a coincidence?

CoastalTexan
05-01-2006, 01:17 PM
This is a classic denver/kubiak pick. RB's are fragile and easily replaceable historicaly. Look at last year, did Wells and Morency do that much worse than our starting RB? In this system you dont need to spend much on a RB, so you focus your money (You have limited money, unlike the yankees in baseball) on other priorites such as DE. Once the RB's contract is up, let him go and draft a noname guy the next year.

Algebrat
05-01-2006, 01:34 PM
Basing this on memory, not looking it all up...so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. At the end of last season the Texans needed:
OL: Flanigan, Winston, Spencer and a couple 2nd teir FA.
2nd WR: I think Moulds covers this
DE: Balt. guy and M. Williams
TE: Putzier (not great, but better)
LB: Cowart, D. Ryans
2nd CB, FS: can't get them all in one off season...

We covered what we needed to improve. Note: no running back needs.

Solid draft. Great choices. I'm extreemly happy.

Hawg
05-01-2006, 01:43 PM
Basing this on memory, not looking it all up...so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. At the end of last season the Texans needed:
OL: Flanigan, Winston, Spencer and a couple 2nd teir FA.
2nd WR: I think Moulds covers this
DE: Balt. guy and M. Williams
TE: Putzier (not great, but better)
LB: Cowart, D. Ryans
2nd CB, FS: can't get them all in one off season...

We covered what we needed to improve. Note: no running back needs.

Solid draft. Great choices. I'm extreemly happy.

Great post. I would ad Kevin Walters to the list of WR though, he will be a legit number three behind AJ and Moulds. What do you think about that kid Tgiht end that they drafted yesterday? From what they are saying is that he has a chance to be a very good TE in this league. And your right our RB situation is solid.

arenateam
05-01-2006, 01:50 PM
ahh, the debate rages...

UGA
05-01-2006, 04:32 PM
you don't understand football. this isn't the NBA. What you don't seem to fathom is that Pittsburgh and Seattle probably had the two best OLs in the NFL last year. I guess that's a coincidence?

Is Williams planning on playing o-line?