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ThaShark316
04-27-2006, 03:48 PM
Texans | Team interested in acquiring another first round choice
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:05:30 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Houston Texans, who own the first pick of the second round, are interested in trading up and may have a potential partner in the Chicago Bears. The Bears own the No. 26 pick and may be interested in trading down.

From kffl.com

Thoughts?

Dr. Toro
04-27-2006, 03:55 PM
Texans | Team interested in acquiring another first round choice
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:05:30 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Houston Texans, who own the first pick of the second round, are interested in trading up and may have a potential partner in the Chicago Bears. The Bears own the No. 26 pick and may be interested in trading down.

From kffl.com

Thoughts?

Winston? A specific CB?

TexasJedi
04-27-2006, 04:01 PM
Babin II? This does fit with Casserly talking about his hope that guys they want being around when they pick in round 2. I hope this is a precaution, but at least let a trade be for someone like Jonathan Joseph, Jason Allen, or D'Qwell Jackson. Hopefully no trade is necessary.

Johnny Utah
04-27-2006, 04:06 PM
Here we go again. Our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to move into the 1st round.

Hopefully, we can get a better deal & better player this time around.

My guess on player is Antonio Cromartie.

Blu
04-27-2006, 04:14 PM
:redtowel: Winston? A specific CB?

Winston or Ko Simpson (Safety)!

#26 would rock.

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 04:15 PM
It would have to look like this:

Texans give:

#33=580
#65=265
#66=260
#97=112

total 1217 pts

Texans get:

#26= 750
#57=330
#90=140

total=1220

Don't know if I would make that deal.

Htown34s
04-27-2006, 04:21 PM
IMO they must be targeting Johnathan Joeseph CB from SC. I just did a mock and the two 3rd rounders aren't looking that great actually. If we give them our 2nd and one of our 3rd's then we could get our choice of CB's or OT's.

I'm also thinking that they've identified OT's later in the draft that fit just as good or better than some of the OT's rated higher. It looks like Marcus McNeill will be there at #33, but he may have weight issues. If you're looking for a starting CB you're talking 1st round.

Mike Kerns
04-27-2006, 04:23 PM
THe past makes me say "Somebody stop him!!!!" But he did a decent job with Free Agency & I still believe his leash will be very short on Draft day. So, I would be OK if we dont give away excessive draft picks for it. Is the corner, J.J. from SC that good?

pittbull
04-27-2006, 04:26 PM
Somebody please stop charley! PLEASE!!!!

El Tejano
04-27-2006, 04:31 PM
If we get an offensive lineman it will be good move.

I wonder though, if this could possibly be a move to perhaps get Manny Lawson. This would make up for not getting Williams maybe.

Doing this, does it bring more value to the 3rd rounder we got from N.O. in the Travis Johnson trade? I think it might because with that 3rd we may be able to go up to the second.

Htown34s
04-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Is the corner, J.J. from SC that good?

5-11/193 and runs 4.3's! JC transfer, only 1 season at South Carolina. Needs to develop some skills, but is already excellent playing with only speed and natural instincts.

Originally projected as a 2nd rounder, there is a good chance now that he'll be gone by #26 even.

4Texans
04-27-2006, 04:33 PM
I will really have to figure out who the Texans are targeting before I'd be happy with trading up again. I'm not a Babin Basher, but I'm don't know why we traded up for him. And I would hate to see us do it again and not get any real value out of it.

Porky
04-27-2006, 04:38 PM
Noooooo! There are plenty of good players in this draft. We need more than one player. If someone they like gets picked, go to the next guy you have on your board. If anything, trade down. We need more, not fewer players. This guy is a complete buffon. Somebody get Casserly out of the damn draft room before he pulls another Babin. Jeez, he never learns does he. :brickwall :brickwall

Htown34s
04-27-2006, 04:38 PM
Somebody please stop charley! PLEASE!!!!

Plus this move shouldn't be as drastic as the jump up to get Babin. There isn't a lot between #26 and #33...

Johnny Utah
04-27-2006, 04:38 PM
5-11/193 and runs 4.3's! JC transfer, only 1 season at South Carolina. Needs to develop some skills, but is already excellent playing with only speed and natural instincts.

Originally projected as a 2nd rounder, there is a good chance now that he'll be gone by #26 even.


On nfldraftcountdown.com they have....

#19 CB Antonio Cromartie
#20 CB Tye Hill
#21 CB Richard Marshall
#23 CB Jonathan Joseph
#31 CB Kelly Jennings

My guess is they will be moving up for this run at CB during the draft.

Texansfan30
04-27-2006, 04:38 PM
NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!

If this is true, someone jackknife a cabbage truck in front of Charley's car, quick!

Deepest draft in years, you don't want to trade away picks to move up now. PERHAPS, on draft day, you do it if someone on your board is still there and you think you could take him. But not now.

I would be MUCH happier if they waited until draft day, then once it got to their 2nd pick, they traded DOWN a few spots to pick up more picks. This draft is very strong through the 3rd round, and I would love trading down from #33 to #38-#40 in order to pick up an extra 3rd rounder.

The Babin trade will go down as one of the stupidest in Texans history. Let's NOT repeat it.

Texan_Kev
04-27-2006, 04:44 PM
Texans | Team interested in acquiring another first round choice
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:05:30 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Houston Texans, who own the first pick of the second round, are interested in trading up and may have a potential partner in the Chicago Bears. The Bears own the No. 26 pick and may be interested in trading down.

wrestler4life
04-27-2006, 04:48 PM
so we can get another Babin???

jerek
04-27-2006, 04:51 PM
Very interesting, though I half suspect KFFL is full of it (the guys that "broke the story" on the Texans trading Carr for Ricky Williams and a second.) I am not sure what the Texans would have to gain by jumping what, six spots? that late in the first round. I suspect it is going to cost us but yes, this is a deep draft, pretty much all the way through the first round, so hell it is possible that there is a player they have their collective eye on.

If true, and IMO that is a very big if given the source and our current draft position, then the likely pickup is Eric Winston of Miami: fills a much needed T spot. Or ... say they are looking to draft Mario Williams, and they are looking to trade back into going for another RB, say a Laurence Maroney (who some mocks do have falling that far?), because of Davis' durability concerns. On that note, I also find it strange that for all we have heard about some of our players this offseason, we have heard not a peep about Domanick Davis or where he fits into their game plan, with or without Bush. Maybe DD is on his way out, or will factor into this trade with the Bears?

Now -- if that is their thought process -- is this their plan A, or is this plan B in case Bush doesn't act right in negotiations?

CoastalTexan
04-27-2006, 04:51 PM
Jonathan Joseph, I pointed this out earlier in the year. Mcnairs USC alumni adn he likes USC players, we went for Dunta, and Williamson, this year it's Joseph.

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 04:51 PM
IMO they must be targeting Johnathan Joeseph CB from SC. I just did a mock and the two 3rd rounders aren't looking that great actually. If we give them our 2nd and one of our 3rd's then we could get our choice of CB's or OT's.

I'm also thinking that they've identified OT's later in the draft that fit just as good or better than some of the OT's rated higher. It looks like Marcus McNeill will be there at #33, but he may have weight issues. If you're looking for a starting CB you're talking 1st round.

If Texans give #33=580 and #66=260 total =840 pts

If Texans get#26=750 pts, that's not an equal trade

ThaShark316
04-27-2006, 04:53 PM
If Texans give #33=580 and #66=260 total =840 pts

If Texans get#26=750 pts, that's not an equal trade

Man who the hell cares about that extra lame *** draft point chart or w/e its called...its so stupid, it aint funny....leave it alone, damn.

Sorry, but it is.

dhaNim
04-27-2006, 04:55 PM
If Texans give #33=580 and #66=260 total =840 pts

If Texans get#26=750 pts, that's not an equal trade

our 2nd rounder and 4th rounder is only about 8 points short of equal i think.

Porky
04-27-2006, 04:57 PM
Already being discussed in another thread in the draft forum.

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 04:59 PM
Man who the hell cares about that extra lame *** draft point chart or w/e its called...its so stupid, it aint funny....leave it alone, damn.

Sorry, but it is.

You are talking about leaving the equal of the 6th pick in the 4th round (#102) on the table. 90 points

nunusguy
04-27-2006, 05:03 PM
Noooooo! There are plenty of good players in this draft. We need more than one player. If someone they like gets picked, go to the next guy you have on your board. If anything, trade down. We need more, not fewer players. This guy is a complete buffon. Somebody get Casserly out of the damn draft room before he pulls another Babin. Jeez, he never learns does he. :brickwall :brickwall
I agree, but what is a GM to do if Kubiak says "I gotta have this guy to make
the OL work", or "the only way the secondary can succeed is if we get that
guy" ? And if everybody knows the player won't make it to the second round, what's the GM gonna do but try and make a trade, even though we know the Babin trade was a bad experience ?

Bearfan Blue and Orange
04-27-2006, 05:04 PM
Even the Bears will screw this one up!!!

OK trade up get Reggie Bush, that means they will trade Thomas Jones to Indy for sure then and now what do we do with 2 first round multi million dollar drafted RBs... This SUCKS!!!

OR

Maybe the Bears a working a side trade with Indy so the Bears trade up to #1 and then in return trade down to Indy's spot(s) giving Indy Reggie Bush. Now that I can see as a possibility for the Bears

Who knows. Reggie would not last long healthy with the Bears run first game plan smashmouth football. Do you think?

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 05:04 PM
our 2nd rounder and 4th rounder is only about 8 points short of equal i think.

#33=580 + #97=112 total=692

#26=750 diffrence is 58points (equal to 21st pick in 4th rnd)

great deal for us if they will do it

Yankee_In_TX
04-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Smoke screen. You don't give up the #1 in a draft like this and not get an MIND BLOWING offer in return.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
04-27-2006, 05:07 PM
Good, we do not draft well in the first round anyway. they are better 3-5 rounds. The Blue Collar players fit well in Chitown

Grid
04-27-2006, 05:07 PM
yah the bears are looking to trade down..not up.

jerek
04-27-2006, 05:07 PM
Smoke screen. You don't give up the #1 in a draft like this and not get an MIND BLOWING offer in return.

The report was that we give our #33 plus something else to trade back up into the first round. No one has mentioned trading down from the #1 :confused: And if so, I have plenty of explicit thoughts I would like to share with the FO ... :challenge

PapaL
04-27-2006, 05:09 PM
Quality over Quantity. With funds not being plentiful, especially with the #1 pick, If a guy the coach wants is there - make it happen. Much easier to sign one guy as opposed to three. With the caveat that he is an obviously better choice then what we could have gotten.

real
04-27-2006, 05:11 PM
Who do u think we'll get if we move up ??

hollywood_texan
04-27-2006, 05:12 PM
Build the right system and scout the talent, interchangeable talent that is readily available is what needs to be scouted.

We are sitting good with our current set of draft picks, especially with the first two in the 3rd round.

These guys should be doing their homework and find the guys that will be available for the second and third round picks we have, not just get tunnel vision on one guy. I think that was the probably with Babin, they designed some exotic 3-4 defense that makes some players more valuable to us than to other teams because of the system. Now with the 4-3, Babin isn't really worth it.

We need those three picks, and we need them to be impact players in 2006. Moving up 6 spots doesn't really seem to be worth that much unless this guy is going to be force at his position.

I just hope they aren't looking for a running back, quarterback, wide receiver, or tight end in this draft. We have enough of those right now, and I don't see how past Reggie Bush, how any guy drafted at those positions are going to make the team on the final cut. We need immediate impact players, forget about development players this year.

platnumdelgado
04-27-2006, 05:15 PM
Better be an O-lineman.

Grid
04-27-2006, 05:18 PM
Lots of possibilities outside of Olinemen.

Manny Lawson
Richard Marshall
Donte Whitner
Antonio Cromartie
Tye Hill
Jonathen Joseph
Lendale White (hah)

Basicly.. this would be a great spot to either grab any of the elite defensive linemen that slid a bit.. or grab one of the top DBs in the draft.

Or we could get Lendale White :P hah..that would suck.

texan279
04-27-2006, 05:19 PM
Could be targeting a LB or CB maybe? Maybe Sinorice Moss or Mangold?

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Some mocks have E. Winston going to the Jets at #29. If they don't take D'Brickshaw at #5 then they may want Winston. If the Texans think this will happen they MIGHT want to move up to #26 and take Winston.

U4ikrob
04-27-2006, 05:21 PM
My thinking is there trying to trade up and get an OT or perhaps another starting DB/Safety since were thin in the secondary.

jerek
04-27-2006, 05:23 PM
Some mocks have E. Winston going to the Jets at #29. If they don't take D'Brickshaw at #5 then they may want Winston. If the Texans think this will happen they MIGHT want to move up to #26 and take Winston.

That IMO is the likely scenario if this deal is in fact real and goes through. Winston will probably drop off in the late 20s range, which means if we want the guy we probably trade up for him. He supposedly put on a good combine and is a solid pickup at T.

Sutton=08Heisman
04-27-2006, 05:26 PM
My thinking is there trying to trade up and get an OT or perhaps another starting DB/Safety since were thin in the secondary.

agreed

HJam72
04-27-2006, 05:31 PM
I wanted Winston, but I still don't like this. I think it's a really bad idea.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
04-27-2006, 05:34 PM
You guys can have Ricky Manning JR. he has good character!!!

:ouch: :sbad: lol:

dhaNim
04-27-2006, 05:35 PM
#33=580 + #97=112 total=692

#26=750 diffrence is 58points (equal to 21st pick in 4th rnd)

great deal for us if they will do it

u might want to check again i have the 26th pick worth 700. i just checked again after u said this.

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 05:38 PM
u might want to check again i have the 26th pick worth 700. i just checked again after u said this.
My chart from East Coast Sports News has #26@750 and #28@700 ????

jacquescas
04-27-2006, 05:41 PM
i feel Winston will fall to us in the second round.

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 05:42 PM
I wanted Winston, but I still don't like this. I think it's a really bad idea.

If Winston is gone @ #33 would you consider trading down 4-5 picks for 4th rounder.Then choose Colledge and pick up Setterstrom with 4th round pick from trade down?

Mailman04
04-27-2006, 05:44 PM
I may be mistaken, but I thought they said one of the bonuses of signing so many free agents would be that they could now just pick best available player in draft. If that is case, why not just stay where they are and take who is available. I get the feeling they either are doing this though to get Eric Winston, who has seen his stock go up, or some CB or possibly Allen at S from Tennessee. No, I'm not an insider, but this would be the only thing that makes sense.

HJam72
04-27-2006, 05:45 PM
If Winston is gone @ #33 would you consider trading down 4-5 picks for 4th rounder.Then choose Colledge and pick up Setterstrom with 4th round pick from trade down?

Probably, but that's more thinking than I wanta do right now. :)

Mailman04
04-27-2006, 05:47 PM
Very good post Hollywood Texan.

Porky
04-27-2006, 05:48 PM
I agree, but what is a GM to do if Kubiak says "I gotta have this guy to make
the OL work", or "the only way the secondary can succeed is if we get that
guy" ? And if everybody knows the player won't make it to the second round, what's the GM gonna do but try and make a trade, even though we know the Babin trade was a bad experience ?

What's a GM to do? How about growing a pair. Nuff said. If the GM is going to cave to every whim of the HC, then why exactly do we have one?

How many times have the Pats traded up? And they have a full roster. We still need bodies. Yes, we need quality too, but it's not as if you can't get quality sitting right there at #33, or even trading down for that matter. IF they are targeting Winston and he is gone, then take one in the 3rd round. There are 3-5 good choices there in the 2nd thru 3rd, and at least one is bound to be available at the top of the 3rd. Gimme break.

real
04-27-2006, 05:51 PM
Can we not trade players for picks at this point ?

Eyeguy
04-27-2006, 05:55 PM
Can we not trade players for picks at this point ?

BABIN !!!!!!!

Janus3
04-27-2006, 05:57 PM
the draft pick value chart is the stupidest thing ever.

real
04-27-2006, 06:00 PM
If we can trade players for picks maybe we don't have to trade our 33

Porky
04-27-2006, 06:14 PM
Like I say what if he does not.

Then take another player. I like Winston, but I am not sold on his pass blocking. The guy has very short arms. I don't want to trade away valuable picks to get him or anyone else for that matter. We aren't one player away.

BigDTexansFan
04-27-2006, 06:41 PM
Bears are reportedly wanting to move out of 1st round, as Denver did. They have #26 and are talking to Texans about us giving up 1st pick round two and maybe 1 more in exchange for chance to pick someone still there at 26th.:stirpot:

PapaL
04-27-2006, 06:41 PM
Can we not trade players for picks at this point ?

Which of our players would anyone give up anything for? No way we let go of AJ or DRob. After them there really isnt much value.

kcwilson
04-27-2006, 06:45 PM
I HATE THIS IDEA!

If we give up our 2nd rounder, why trade up seven spots? I think it is a little more black and white right now as to who some teams are leaning towards.

26. Bears (if no trade): Since they signed Manning Jr., probably looking at LB or TE.

27. Panthers: RB, DB, or LB are needs.

28: Jags: an unknown, could do anything, OLB is the most dire need, likely no OL need

29. Jets: Chances are they will take a QB or RB here. Maybe DE, but not the right value avaialble likely.

30. Colts: RB, sorely needed.

31. 'Hawks: Secondary to replace Dyson, although they were thinking Law recently, so could OG or TE. Law is old and great value at DB here.

32. Steelers: RB is all anyone says, but DB to replace Hope is also possible.

I don't see OL being an issue of someone being stolen away. Especially if we have to give up a multiple picks to trade up.

The Preacher
04-27-2006, 06:51 PM
Here's the thinking. We picked up an extra 3rd for moving down 3 spots so if we move up six with the extra 3rd, we just got a steal. LAME

bikerack
04-27-2006, 08:21 PM
Too bad CHI just traded their 3rd for Manning.

26 + 88 (the pick they sent to CAR) = 850

33 + 65 = 845

We'd still have 2 3rd rounders...they just wouldn't be back-to-back.

Oh well...

College Texan
04-27-2006, 08:31 PM
No way should they be targeting Winston. If anybody, I would go for, in order

Manny Lawson
Ernie Sims
Donte Whitner
Bobby Carpenter

How bout they trade the second back for an extra third from whoever has one, and then they trade that second with the NO third.

Texas_Thrill
04-27-2006, 08:39 PM
I'm sorrry but I'm still suffering from Babin Hangover.

Pleeeeease don't do this!!!!

I think either Winston or Dqwell Jackson is there at 33rd. I'm happy with either of those.

We need players this year. Remember we are CHANGING defenses so our personnel needs a change as well.

College Texan
04-27-2006, 08:46 PM
I heard somewhere that there is not as much 1st round talent as we think, that some GM's have only around 18 players with first round grades. Explains why so many teams are leaving the latter half of the draft. Why C.C., just stay were we are.

MikeMc
04-27-2006, 08:53 PM
Steelers also looking at Nick Mangold (C Ohio St).

Why move up to get Winston? You only do that if he is worthy of giving up a pick...he is not.

Then again, I see Cass' angle. If he trades now, he gets a better deal. If he waits until pick #20 of the draft (on the day of), the Bears hold the power....could over-compensate the Bears to move up to #23.

I hope his draft board is fairly accurate to try anything. It is hard enough to predict the top 10 picks as of last week.....let alone the top 25 picks today! Too much uncertainty to make this move for a guy that may or may not be there.

I'd still rather keep the picks (or trade #66 to pick up more picks), and ride it out. DC could be picked up in late 3rd or 4th. He is too undersized to play T/G in the NFL, but perfect fit for the Zone Blocking schemes ( which works in the favor of a few teams, Texans one of them).

2 CENTS
04-28-2006, 01:59 AM
The Eagles are projected to take Mangold in the middle of the first. Reports say the Eagle will trade up for defensive help or down for Mangold as middle of the first is to high for a center. The Jets are projected to take Winston at 29. So I could see the Jets trading with the Eagles. If we have the 26th pick we would have a choice of Mangold or Winston which ever one is there. Mangold is Ranked the # 2 Offensive Lineman in the Draft and can also play Guard. I could see that happening as our Guards are not Great (Mckinney)? and insurance for Flanigan. If Winston falls to us We take him as one Mock Draft has us taking Whitworth (OT) LSU with our second round pick which I feel is a big drop off from Winston. Just my opinion

threetoedpete
04-28-2006, 02:13 AM
Babin II? This does fit with Casserly talking about his hope that guys they want being around when they pick in round 2. I hope this is a precaution, but at least let a trade be for someone like Jonathan Joseph, Jason Allen, or D'Qwell Jackson. Hopefully no trade is necessary.
Agreed, Babin II. When will we get a legit Personel department? Inqiring minds want to know. This is so stupid. A deep draft and we're talking about throwing away picks. Good greif. I wonder which Einstien has stamped his aproval on this
player. I have no faith in our scouts.

Ghetto D
04-28-2006, 02:34 AM
I'm not a fan of any rebuilding team giving up picks to move up - it is almost never worth it. If the Cowboys dynasty has taught us anything it is that more picks = more chances to both mess up without setting you back and hitting it big with a pick beyond the 1st round. Keep the picks or even trade down for more I say.

I know its tough now, because all the mocks and all the books say this player is better than that player, but at the end of the day the teams with the most picks will do better.

MorKnolle
04-28-2006, 08:38 AM
The likeliness (and rumor from what I heard) is we are sending our 2nd (#33, 580 pts.) and 4th (#98, 108 pts.) for their 1st (#26, 700 pts.). The Bears would be shortchanged 12 pts. but I think that won't overly matter. As far as who they are targeting, I am led to believe (as I posted in my most recent mock) that they don't like Eric Winston or even Johnathan Joseph (neither are available at #26 in my mock anyways) enough to send away an extra pick for them and that they are moving up to target one of the big 4 RBs if one is still available because they are taking Mario at #1. Personally my target for them was Laurence Maroney, I think he is the most likely one to be available and I think he's the best fit for their system, and I would not at all be surprised to see us take Mario at #1 and look to move up for Maroney if he's available.

Texans Horror
04-28-2006, 08:41 AM
I have heard that many charts have Eric Winston being gone before the second round, so I agree that could be the reason they draft up. However, I have also heard that Kubiak/Denver rarely took a lineman in the first round. Based on Denver's history and our dearth in the defensive secondary, I think we could be likely to see a CB/Safety coming to Houston.

HJam72
04-28-2006, 08:46 AM
The likeliness (and rumor from what I heard) is we are sending our 2nd (#33, 580 pts.) and 4th (#98, 108 pts.) for their 1st (#26, 700 pts.). The Bears would be shortchanged 12 pts. but I think that won't overly matter. As far as who they are targeting, I am led to believe (as I posted in my most recent mock) that they don't like Eric Winston or even Johnathan Joseph (neither are available at #26 in my mock anyways) to send away an extra pick for them and that they are moving up to target one of the big 4 RBs if one is still available because they are taking Mario at #1. Personally my target for them was Laurence Maroney, I think he is the most likely one to be available and I think he's the best fit for their system, and I would not at all be surprised to see us take Mario at #1 and look to move up for Maroney if he's available.

No offense, but :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

A really good cb I could live with.

Texan in Japan
04-28-2006, 09:21 AM
I don't think E. Winston is the target, but more along the lines of a LB, S, CB or possibly at TE.

I really like Bobby Carpenter and he's projected in that area. Also if a guy like Sims drops (concusions) or a S like Whitner would be a good value.

Given the discussion prior to the draft, it probably they've identified 3-4 players that they like that could go in the 27-32 range. It is probably cheaper to move up now vice wait to see what happens.

Although I don't like giving up our 4th, getting a difference maker on defense would be worth it.

real
04-28-2006, 02:30 PM
The likeliness (and rumor from what I heard) is we are sending our 2nd (#33, 580 pts.) and 4th (#98, 108 pts.) for their 1st (#26, 700 pts.). The Bears would be shortchanged 12 pts. but I think that won't overly matter. As far as who they are targeting, I am led to believe (as I posted in my most recent mock) that they don't like Eric Winston or even Johnathan Joseph (neither are available at #26 in my mock anyways) enough to send away an extra pick for them and that they are moving up to target one of the big 4 RBs if one is still available because they are taking Mario at #1. Personally my target for them was Laurence Maroney, I think he is the most likely one to be available and I think he's the best fit for their system, and I would not at all be surprised to see us take Mario at #1 and look to move up for Maroney if he's available.
If that happens that would really suck...