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CoastalTexan
04-27-2006, 01:38 PM
Found this in "The University Star", Txstates school newspaper. I will post the link when it is on the internet.
It is an article about Barrick Nealy and getting drafted this weekend.

"Franchises such as the Houston Texans, Dallas Cowboys, Oakland Raiders, and Cincinnati Bengals all have Nealy on their radar screens."

"So far, the most interest has come from the Bengals and Texans and at this point it is a crapshoot to see where Nealy will go in the draft."

"Between Dallas and Houston, it is a coin toss. I like Houston," Nealy said. "I got the feeling they were looking for a guy like me and I think that I would have a lot to learn from a guy like David Carr."

We could snag him with the 6th or possibly 7th round pick.

His performance against a&m.
http://www.bobcatfans.com/video/txst_am_sm.wmv

http://www.bobcatfans.com/video/barrick.wmv

El Tejano
04-27-2006, 01:49 PM
Man, I am beggining to think that Casserly has certain positions that he already knows he is going to draft. I knew in my heart that we were still going to get a QB in the later rounds. I live in Austin and saw Nealy play this past year. He's good and probably worthy of a late round pick. I kinda wanted him coming out as soon as we cut Banks but didn't think it would happen after we got Rosenfels. So really I think Casserly gets these guys to develope them and then trade them.

Mike Kerns
04-27-2006, 01:51 PM
What happened to BJ Symmons? Did he die?:confused:

Porky
04-27-2006, 02:00 PM
Let's see...

CC's annual draft checklist -

Sign an over priced free agent - Check

Resign your #3 QB drafted in the 3rd round - Check

Taking another QB in the late rounds who has no chance to make the final roster when we need help at other positions - Check

Telling the media you can never have too many QB's in the post draft news conference - check

For everything else, there's Mastercard. :brickwall

Ibar_Harry
04-27-2006, 02:07 PM
Found this in "The University Star", Txstates school newspaper. I will post the link when it is on the internet.
It is an article about Barrick Nealy and getting drafted this weekend.

"Franchises such as the Houston Texans, Dallas Cowboys, Oakland Raiders, and Cincinnati Bengals all have Nealy on their radar screens."

"So far, the most interest has come from the Bengals and Texans and at this point it is a crapshoot to see where Nealy will go in the draft."

"Between Dallas and Houston, it is a coin toss. I like Houston," Nealy said. "I got the feeling they were looking for a guy like me and I think that I would have a lot to learn from a guy like David Carr."

We could snag him with the 6th or possibly 7th round pick.

His performance against a&m.
http://www.bobcatfans.com/video/txst_am_sm.wmv

http://www.bobcatfans.com/video/barrick.wmv

Most of the video was from the shotgun. I would assume it would be the same knock as VY. Like others are saying, we have a lot of other needs than QB. He might get a look, but I think he would be cut or he would be on the call up list. Just no way he compeats with Ragone or Sage at this point.

hollywood_texan
04-27-2006, 02:16 PM
I hope they don't take a QB project. I graduated from Southwest Texas, the old name of the school, but this just doesn't seem right.

We are taking a running a back in the first round, and really don't need a running back. We need to fill out the interior lines on both sides of the ball and I would rather do that than get some guy for potential trade bait. Besides, how many times does a development QB turn into good trade bait? You can't tell me it happens that often.

If they think this guy is like the next Tom Brady, well fine, make the arguement internally but don't take him with the intention of trade bait.

It seems we are always taking some QB in the draft and it never turns into competition for Carr and he plays terrible most of the time.

What is the point with this? If they take this guy, I think it really shows the problem with this organization. It is probably a 6th or 7th round pick, but let's find a guy for a position we need really need.

tsip
04-27-2006, 02:18 PM
What happened to BJ Symmons? Did he die?:confused:

I think he's a Chicago Bear.

Mr. White
04-27-2006, 02:29 PM
I know he's done some great things at TX State. I wouldn't mind seeing him stay in Texas.

CoastalTexan
04-27-2006, 02:43 PM
It's funny how the whole board (well some) goes into an uproar when we don't take VY but when we look at Nealy, (VY Clone, just didn't play at a big school) with a 6TH or 7TH round pick people gripe. This guy is a player and will do whatever he can to help the team, I saw him catch a 30 yard pass in a game. He could be a WR/QB, he does run a 4.5 and hes 6,5 230. Within a couple years he could compete for the starting job if Carr doesn't turn out as planned. (not a knock on Carr, but nothings for sure)

Tale Gator
04-27-2006, 02:45 PM
Wow! It would awesome if the Texans grabbed Nealy -- he really is in the VY mold. Nealy is extremely talented and definitely worth a flyer. :cool:

hollywood_texan
04-27-2006, 02:55 PM
I haven't seen the guy play and maybe he is a tremendous athlete.

My point is to draft a player in every round that will make an immediate impact this year. Which means fill out the needs first.

They need to start winning some serious games and make a playoff run, or just start over. We don't need another quarterback, we don't need another running back, we don't need another tight end, and we don't another wide receiver. After Reggie Bush, it is highly unlikely anyone drafted at any of those posistions are going to be on the final roster regardless of how talented they are. If they are that talented, then why weren't they draft earlier?

There are some big holes to fill at other positions, so let's take care those items first.

The only way you take someone in one of those positions late in the draft is if there is absolutely no one else. But, that is what scouting is about, finding that impact at a later round, there has to be some talent out there on the interior lines of both sides of the ball, maybe even a DB somewhere. If not, then maybe we should be taking Williams or Ferguson instead of Bush.

rmartin65
04-27-2006, 03:13 PM
That would be awsome. Nealy is a good athlete.

Mike Kerns
04-27-2006, 03:31 PM
I think he's a Chicago Bear.
I really Like Symmons at Tech....Guess he was just a product of the system afterall...

aggiechance
04-27-2006, 04:15 PM
Nealy did almost singlehandly destroy the nations worst passing defense when he played A&M. Hey, I went to A&M. But I'm not sure I want a Division I - AA player going to the Texans through the draft. That's was undrafted free agents are for.

SnakeOilTanker
04-27-2006, 04:19 PM
Well it wouldnt be a Texans draft without a late round QB that will never play

CoastalTexan
04-27-2006, 04:34 PM
Nealy started out at D-1A at UH thats University of Houston. that is a D1A school. He transferred to Texas State a D-1AA school because the coach was fired. He couldnt transfer to a D-1A school because he would have had to sit out a year. Therefore he was a D-1A prospect.

4Texans
04-27-2006, 04:43 PM
I would truly expect the Texans to draft a QB in the late rounds. One, because Casserly likes drafting QB's, and Two, I'm sure Kubes will want a prospect of his own to work with.

Tale Gator
04-27-2006, 04:47 PM
Nealy started out at D-1A at UH thats University of Houston. that is a D1A school. He transferred to Texas State a D-1AA school because the coach was fired. He couldnt transfer to a D-1A school because he would have had to sit out a year. Therefore he was a D-1A prospect.

Part of that equation was a blown out knee.

/Which is now 100%

champ1234
04-27-2006, 04:50 PM
I haven't seen the guy play and maybe he is a tremendous athlete.

My point is to draft a player in every round that will make an immediate impact this year. Which means fill out the needs first.

They need to start winning some serious games and make a playoff run, or just start over. We don't need another quarterback, we don't need another running back, we don't need another tight end, and we don't another wide receiver. After Reggie Bush, it is highly unlikely anyone drafted at any of those posistions are going to be on the final roster regardless of how talented they are. If they are that talented, then why weren't they draft earlier?

There are some big holes to fill at other positions, so let's take care those items first.

The only way you take someone in one of those positions late in the draft is if there is absolutely no one else. But, that is what scouting is about, finding that impact at a later round, there has to be some talent out there on the interior lines of both sides of the ball, maybe even a DB somewhere. If not, then maybe we should be taking Williams or Ferguson instead of Bush.

I'm trying hard not to knock on you, but...it's...just...to...hard!

Look, you are not going to find a player in each one of these rounds that would start for us this upcoming season. It's just not going to happen. Right now, we have two possible holes at OL, a possible FS hole, and maybe LB. You're not going to pick up a starter in the 6th or compilation round. To be honest, I don't believe our staff has a lot of faith in Ragone, why else would they leave him out in FA so long without putting a offer out on him.

If the FO thinks that Nealy could compete against Rosenfels and Ragone, that power to 'em. If they want to reach and see if he can play WR, then why not try with such a late pick. Obviously he is good enough to warrant other teams looking at him as well.

swtbound07
04-27-2006, 04:51 PM
I can tell you one thing...Barrick Nealy can drink like a champion. one of the worst hangovers i ever had. ugh.

aggiechance
04-27-2006, 05:27 PM
What's his poison....shots or we're you going beer for beer?

swtbound07
04-27-2006, 05:35 PM
What's his poison....shots or we're you going beer for beer?

nealy and myself are both hard liquor drinkers....As is a certain o-lineman who's name shall remain nameless.

hollywood_texan
04-27-2006, 05:37 PM
I'm trying hard not to knock on you, but...it's...just...to...hard!

Look, you are not going to find a player in each one of these rounds that would start for us this upcoming season. It's just not going to happen. Right now, we have two possible holes at OL, a possible FS hole, and maybe LB. You're not going to pick up a starter in the 6th or compilation round. To be honest, I don't believe our staff has a lot of faith in Ragone, why else would they leave him out in FA so long without putting a offer out on him.

If the FO thinks that Nealy could compete against Rosenfels and Ragone, that power to 'em. If they want to reach and see if he can play WR, then why not try with such a late pick. Obviously he is good enough to warrant other teams looking at him as well.

We are fine at QB, RB, WR, and TE. I find it hard to imagine that this guy from Southwest Texas (I know the new name, but I am an alumnus from '93 and prefer old one) is better than a development player for either side of the line or a DB that will be available in the 7th round.

Maybe he has amazing talent. But we don't need another QB that probably would be lucky to make the practice squad. Furthermore, they have been doing it the last several years with zero success I might add. So I really don't have a lot of confidence in them selecting a QB. I am just glad we were able to move Drew Hensen.

My point is, or really concern, is that the FO does not put enough value on the interior lines and the defensive backs. In addition, guys like this are probably available every year at round 7. Let's not pick any development players for RB, QB, WR, or TE this year because those positions are full.

That's all I am saying. There has to be similar talent available at positions that need to be addressed immediately. Let's table this kind of pick until next year.

College Texan
04-27-2006, 08:43 PM
Ya guys don't kid yourselves, Nealy is a fine athlete and most late round picks never come to fruition, so what is so bad in using a 6th or 7th on him. The only other QB I like is Drew Olson from UCLA. But if we get Nealy, he will be the most athletic QB we have and I think if he sits back and learns the Denver way, he could push for a third spot at least. There is also the possibility he can play WR, he has seen some time at wideout. I saw 3 games last year, plus the A&M one on T.V, and there is no doubt Nealy could have been in a bigger program.

hollywood_texan
04-27-2006, 09:00 PM
Ya guys don't kid yourselves, Nealy is a fine athlete and most late round picks never come to fruition, so what is so bad in using a 6th or 7th on him. The only other QB I like is Drew Olson from UCLA. But if we get Nealy, he will be the most athletic QB we have and I think if he sits back and learns the Denver way, he could push for a third spot at least. There is also the possibility he can play WR, he has seen some time at wideout. I saw 3 games last year, plus the A&M one on T.V, and there is no doubt Nealy could have been in a bigger program.

There are two positions we don't need any more help with, they are RB and WR. With where we are at right now, I really don't care about competition at the third quarterback position.

I am sure there is guy like this available every year in the 7th round, if not, he would be going sooner. I would prefer to try my luck on the offensive or defensive line instead and than go for something like this. Maybe next year or some other year.

It's possible he goes undrafted and then you can pick him up then and he can then hang out on the practice squad, because that is all he is going to do anyway for the next couple of years.

CoastalTexan
04-27-2006, 09:06 PM
Vince Young is a "Once in a lifetime athlete". But a 6,5 230 4.5/40 QB who lives 30 miles down the road comes along every year or so, and is not worth wasting a 6/7 round pick on. There is some inconsistancy here...

aj.
04-27-2006, 09:13 PM
Nealy started out at D-1A at UH thats University of Houston. that is a D1A school. He transferred to Texas State a D-1AA school because the coach was fired. He couldnt transfer to a D-1A school because he would have had to sit out a year. Therefore he was a D-1A prospect.


....because Dimel was fired and Briles brought in Kolb who knew the offense.

And the knee.

gwallaia
04-27-2006, 10:01 PM
....because Dimel was fired and Briles brought in Kolb who knew the offense.

And the knee.

That is correct.

But Barrick Nealy was exciting to watch while he was here at UH.

Matt_Alkire
04-27-2006, 10:04 PM
My point is to draft a player in every round that will make an immediate impact this year. Which means fill out the needs first.


So, you think a 6th or 7th rounder is "going to make an immediate impact" this year?

Rarely happens.

For those of your that are Young fans, Nealy is the closest to it in the draft.

hollywood_texan
04-28-2006, 01:13 PM
So, you think a 6th or 7th rounder is "going to make an immediate impact" this year?

Rarely happens.

For those of your that are Young fans, Nealy is the closest to it in the draft.

I shouldn't have said "going to make an immediate impact." If we draft a quarterback in the seventh round, it seems certain he won't even make the final roster and maybe not even the practice squad.

My point is, table QB, RB, WR, and TE picks this year and scout development talent for other positions because we need more help there. I am sure any guy available at the 7th round at QB, RB, WR, and TE this year, there is always similar talent available like that every year.

Personally, I am tired of them picking a QB and trying to make into trade bait because we know he is not going to compete for Carr's job.

It just seems pointless this year for those positions. In other words, let's draft development talent that could at least provide a realistic chance of providing an impact at that position, like either side of the line. That is my point.

Tale Gator
04-28-2006, 01:17 PM
I thought BN was going to go a bit higher than the 7th. :confused: