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texan279
04-26-2006, 03:34 PM
from www.kffl.com

Texans | Choice narrowed to Bush or Williams
Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:01:29 -0700

The Associated Press reports Houston Texans general manager Charlie Casserly has announced that the team will select either USC RB Reggie Bush or North Carolina St. DE Mario Williams with the first pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. Casserly also dismissed the option of trading out of the first pick in the draft. "Right now we have nobody interested in that first pick, so we have gone ahead and begun negotiations with two players," Casserly said.

Mike Kerns
04-26-2006, 03:37 PM
Then I am liking Reggie's chances. Anyone else watching the Sportscenter Draft Special right now? It should change it's name to The Sportscenter Green Bay Packers Special. It has been 90% Green Bay today...I like Brett & all, but this is a little boring. & It has what to do with the Draft?

kcwilson
04-26-2006, 03:39 PM
And with that news... the "draft VY" campaign team begins to muster themselves and prepare for a concession speech.

I don't think we are smoke screening anyone with the news anymore. The only other option for us not to draft Bush is a last minute Jets' long bomb to trade up... which likely won't happen given their team needs and mgmt tendencies.

Double Barrel
04-26-2006, 03:41 PM
I wonder how much this current Bush scandal is influencing the FO's decision? I'm sure it's something they want resolved quickly, because the last thing this team needs right now is bad press from one high profile player.

I'd be happy with the Williams pick, too, tho'.

Texans86
04-26-2006, 03:42 PM
And with that news... the "draft VY" campaign team begins to muster themselves and prepare for a concession speech.

I don't think we are smoke screening anyone with the news anymore. The only other option for us not to draft Bush is a last minute Jets' long bomb to trade up... which likely won't happen given their team needs and mgmt tendencies.

Obviously things have changed since FA, but at the end of the season, some experts were saying that the Jets are the most talented team to pick in the top 5 in awhile. Basically, the Jets could use a good running back to help the aging Curtis Martin, and they have the firepower to get up there and still have a decent amount of picks. Depends how much they sweat come Friday afternoon around 10:30 Saturday morning.

El Tejano
04-26-2006, 03:42 PM
from www.kffl.com

Texans | Choice narrowed to Bush or Williams
Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:01:29 -0700

"Right now we have nobody interested in that first pick, so we have gone ahead and begun negotiations with two players," Casserly said.
Sounds like Bongo is pretty much on the money.

Texans2005
04-26-2006, 03:43 PM
This is news from houstontexans dot com today.

"General manager Charley Casserly laid out the Texans' draft plans Wednesday, and said the team will select either running back Reggie Bush or defensive end Mario Williams with the No. 1 overall pick on Saturday."

kcwilson
04-26-2006, 03:50 PM
Obviously things have changed since FA, but at the end of the season, some experts were saying that the Jets are the most talented team to pick in the top 5 in awhile. Basically, the Jets could use a good running back to help the aging Curtis Martin, and they have the firepower to get up there and still have a decent amount of picks. Depends how much they sweat come Friday afternoon around 10:30 Saturday morning.

The Jets have a pick late in Rd. 1 where they will take one of the many RBs slated in go in that area. Why get just Bush, when they can get another RB and quality OT, QB, LB at #4?

I would rather have the #4 and #29 than the #1.

Texans86
04-26-2006, 03:52 PM
The Jets have a pick late in Rd. 1 where they will take one of the many RBs slated in go in that area. Why get just Bush, when they can get another RB and quality OT, QB, LB at #4?

I would rather have the #4 and #29 than the #1.

I didn't claim it would happen, I have know idea what the Jets front office really wants, I'm just saying it's the most reasonable.

Caesar
04-26-2006, 03:54 PM
And with that news... the "draft VY" campaign team begins to muster themselves and prepare for a concession speech.
As well as a "see, I told you so" speech for when he kicks our *** with the Titans twice every year.

texansfaninla
04-26-2006, 03:56 PM
Austin American-Statesman chimes in with direct quotes from Casserly:

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2006/04/26/texans_have_ruled_out_vince_gm_says.html

Mike Kerns
04-26-2006, 03:57 PM
As well as a "see, I told you so" speech for when he kicks our *** with the Titans twice every year.
Perhaps in three or four years.

gwallaia
04-26-2006, 03:58 PM
Texans in negotiations with Bush, Williams Click here to find out more!
NFL.com wire reports

HOUSTON (April 26, 2006) -- The Houston Texans will take Southern Cal running back Reggie Bush or North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams with the first pick in the NFL draft (April 29-30), general manager Charley Casserly said.

The Texans dashed the hopes of University of Texas fans everywhere who have been clamoring for the team to pick Vince Young, a Houston native who led the Longhorns to a Rose Bowl victory over Bush and USC.

"We came to the conclusion that to draft a quarterback, whether it be Vince Young, Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler, was not the best thing for this football team," Casserly said. "The best thing for this football team was to use the first pick in this draft to add a premier player at another position."

Casserly said that part of their decision-making process involved contacting other teams to see if there was any interest in trading for their pick.

"Right now we have nobody interested in that first pick, so we have gone ahead and begun negotiations with two players," Casserly said.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/HOU/9398998

PokerStar
04-26-2006, 04:01 PM
It seems to me like we are closing in on our target. I have a sneaky suspicion or perhaps a fuzzy headed bird that told me we may be leaning Mario Williams way. I know that is just gonna piss people off and I have been wrong before (at least this one does not cost me 2bills). Hopefully we do go the Mario route, and if we do people at the draft party try to hold your booing to a low roar, that way those of us drinking and celebrating because our team is going in the right direction can enjoy our pick.

jerek
04-26-2006, 04:02 PM
I wonder how much this current Bush scandal is influencing the FO's decision? I'm sure it's something they want resolved quickly, because the last thing this team needs right now is bad press from one high profile player.

I'd be happy with the Williams pick, too, tho'.

I don't think it is. IMO Bush can pretty well deny everything and even if he is found guilty, I think that our FO is already well aware of just how much this kind of thing already happens all throughout the NCAA. The NCAA will possibly strip USC of its title, Reggie of his Heisman, and there will be a lot of backlash from that for a little while, but IMO it does not too much tarnish Reggie as a player and yes, even Reggie as a person. Yes, it appears he willingly cheated, and yes, it was immoral to do so, but this "scandal" has nothing to do with the guy as a player (e.g. juicing or fixing games) or breaking society's laws (e.g. beating his girl, bar fight, shootout with the cops, etc.) As it is, the NFL and its athletes are hardly a beacon of virtue.

If "got his family a better house" is the worst that anyone can say about Reggie Bush -- and so long as he avoids actual trouble with the law -- then I doubt our FO is worried about it.

jerek
04-26-2006, 04:04 PM
It seems to me like we are closing in on our target. I have a sneaky suspicion or perhaps a fuzzy headed bird that told me we may be leaning Mario Williams way. I know that is just gonna piss people off and I have been wrong before (at least this one does not cost me 2bills). Hopefully we do go the Mario route, and if we do people at the draft party try to hold your booing to a low roar, that way those of us drinking and celebrating because our team is going in the right direction can enjoy our pick.

Amen to that. I will be happy with either Bush or Williams. Both are going to do big things for us. If Williams does become our pick, however, God forbid he gets injured in camp or comes out to a slow start. Our "fans" are gonna take awhile to embrace him, but winning makes everyone friends.

Mr. White
04-26-2006, 04:06 PM
The Texans never had any intention of picking up Vince Young. Casserly has been locked in on Reggie Bush since November.

They acknowledged Vince Young after he came out for the draft and lobbied for the team to draft him...but that was the extent of it. They paid lip-service to VY's supporters, but their actions pointed to VY not coming here. (The Carr extension, the Rosenfels signing, the free agent stockpile last month.)

They're not saying anything that we didn't truly know already.

I can't wait until the 29th.

texansfaninla
04-26-2006, 04:19 PM
And that's why, in the end, they've made this into a Mario-versus-Bush thing instead of a Vince-versus-Bush thing. Can you imagine the fever pitch if it was a down-to-the-wire, Vince-or-Bush pick? And how pissed the city would be if Bush was the guy they selected? I think the cat is out of the bag, and that Mario has been used for two reasons: (1) cut down the Bush contract demands, and (2) eliminate the Bush-or-Vince debate leading up to the draft. Now, by coming out and saying, "Hey, it's either Bush or Mario", that pretty much says, "Hey, it's Bush. And we've been telling you, it won't be Vince." It gives the majority of the pro-Vince crowd time to accept reality and come around on Bush, rather than have some false 50-50 hope that it'll be Vince up to the time Tags is ready to read the Texans draft card.

For me the debate is over. Finally. It's Bush. Period. Give me a Steel Blue No. 5 jersey, please. New Orleans, you are now on the clock...

Hardcore Texan
04-26-2006, 04:20 PM
Well I am a big UT fan, and a big VY fan, but I have been saying since the Rose Bowl, This team has much more pressing needs than QB. At first I was hoping for a ton of picks in a trade down scenario, but after FA it doesn't look like that will happen. I really like the idea of the immediate impact Bush can have on our team. Especially coupled with the staff changes and off season acquisitions.

My favorite team overall, college or pro, is Houston, and I want what is best for them, and I don't think VY is it. He is a great athelete, I am sure he will be successful, I was sad he left UT, but we could use Reggie right away. He is just a better fit IMO, and since we can't get a boatload of picks for the #1. Drafting Bush is fantastic with me.

I hope we can come together and support the Texans' decision, knowing they did what the felt was best for the team. I know I am behind this team for the long haul.
Oh, and give 'em some time to come together and get things working, before people start breaking out the pitchforks and marching up the stairs of Reliant.

oh, and I am cool if we take Mario too, for the same reasons mentioned above: immediate impact, glaring need at DE.

nunusguy
04-26-2006, 04:30 PM
The value of our #1 for trade purposes plummeted when NOLA signed
FA Drew Breeze, and at the same time the NOLA pick went thru the ceiling.

GP
04-26-2006, 04:33 PM
The value of our #1 for trade purposes plummeted when NOLA signed
FA Drew Breeze, and at the same time the NOLA pick went thru the ceiling.

Yep. That's the only true thing we can all bank on right now.

It just flat-out ripped our bargaining chip our from underneath us. Drats....

JDizzle
04-26-2006, 04:37 PM
FWIW, here's another article from ESPN.com stating the obvious:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2422983

I hope everyone here reads this part :

But is he prepared for the potential backlash if the team passes on not just Young but Heisman Trophy winner Bush as well?

"If that happens, then I'll be the first one to defend Mario Williams," he said. "What people should understand is that if we take Mario Williams and if somebody doesn't like it, then I'm right here and I'm the guy to yell at. Nobody else. Boo me. Don't boo Mario Williams."

I just hope the hardline Bush and Young people don't give this kid a rash of scheisse to express their anger / discontent should we end up drafting him, such as booing him and throwing beer at his wife and kids.

Bush or Williams ... that's a tough friggin' choice imo, I'll be thrilled with either one.

1-3
04-26-2006, 05:44 PM
"Right now we have nobody interested in that first pick, so we have gone ahead and begun negotiations with two players," Casserly said.

But, but, but... ESPN told me Reggie was the best prospect since John Elway! Seriously though, if we aren't gonnna get a trade, just take Bush. It's just so Major League Baseball draft to make money really be the deciding factor. I am fine with negotiating hard with Bush but after throwing money at 32 year old receivers and backup QB's this offseason I think it would be retarted to let cash be the deciding factor on who we want to build this franchise around.

MorKnolle
04-26-2006, 08:02 PM
It seems to me like we are closing in on our target. I have a sneaky suspicion or perhaps a fuzzy headed bird that told me we may be leaning Mario Williams way. I know that is just gonna piss people off and I have been wrong before (at least this one does not cost me 2bills). Hopefully we do go the Mario route, and if we do people at the draft party try to hold your booing to a low roar, that way those of us drinking and celebrating because our team is going in the right direction can enjoy our pick.

I am getting this same feeling.