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TexansCM
04-11-2006, 06:52 PM
Has anyone heard if the Texans are thinking about bringing back Billy Miller? Today I saw him walking out of the convenience store in Sienna Plantation, I was still in my car so I didn't have a chance to talk to him.

I lived in the same apartment complex as him during the Texans first year and ran into him a few times there and I would have to say he looks like he has added a good deal of muscle weight. Maybe he is ready to step up his game on the blocking front and fight for a position at TE.

PapaL
04-11-2006, 07:38 PM
Has anyone heard if the Texans are thinking about bringing back Billy Miller? Today I saw him walking out of the convenience store in Sienna Plantation, I was still in my car so I didn't have a chance to talk to him.

I lived in the same apartment complex as him during the Texans first year and ran into him a few times there and I would have to say he looks like he has added a good deal of muscle weight. Maybe he is ready to step up his game on the blocking front and fight for a position at TE.

No, No, No. No more bring Billy back threads. The guy couldnt catch on with anyone else in the league. :brickwall

footballguy69
04-11-2006, 07:48 PM
I doubt they would sign him because of the logjam at TE now. He still is one of my favorite Texans. Once he left a lot of the "spirit" seemed to leave from the team. I know on paper people say he is not the answer, but all the guy did was catch the football, (very few drops) and score TD's. I think he was in the Capers doghouse for whatever reason. He went to Cleveland but was inactive most of last season. In my opinion, he is a rare type of player who really shines on gameday. I coached a guy like that years ago in youth football. A normal player in high school and college, he tried out for the NFL numerous times to no avail. When he finally got the chance in Cleveland by default, his first game he caught three TD's if I remember correctly. His name......Keenan McCardell. This shows some guys just need a chance. I also think Derrick Armstrong is another player like this. I cannot for the life of me figure out why he does not play more. Go figure!:brickwall

Grid
04-11-2006, 08:17 PM
now that we have an HC that uses pass catching TEs.. id love to see Miller get another look.

Texas
04-11-2006, 08:49 PM
Yea then we'd have to cut bruener

TMac48
04-11-2006, 08:58 PM
Yea then we'd have to cut bruener
Why not Murphy?

thunderkyss
04-11-2006, 09:16 PM
He still is one of my favorite Texans.


Billy Miller was one of my favorites too....... no, he didn't block, but I thought he was sooooo good, catching the ball for us, that I would take the time to teach him to block. Especially if I were paying someone to be a tightend coach.

When he left, I didn't know what was going on........ I wasn't very active on the board then, and thought he must've got hurt, but they never said much about him.....

MorKnolle
04-11-2006, 10:15 PM
We just brought in Putzier to be our main pass catching TE, and he's played in Kubiak's system the last several years rather than being cut from the Texans then riding the bench with the Browns for most of a season before being cut from there too, as Billy Miller has done. The Texans have no reason to bring Billy Miller back.

infantrycak
04-11-2006, 10:40 PM
Kubiak was with the Broncos when they let Billy Miller go after three years on the team (in which time he had 6 receptions). Assuming he agreed with that decision (likely as the OC) it seems unlikely Miller has any prospects with the Texans.

hot pickle
04-11-2006, 11:08 PM
i've always got love for billy, no matter what, i say bring him back:redtowel:

Scott D
04-12-2006, 01:37 AM
I found this

http://www.footballguys.com/03face_billymiller.htm

SheTexan
04-12-2006, 05:15 AM
Glad I tuned in this morning!! One of my favorite topics!!:) Nothing I would like more than for Billy to get the chance to represent the Texans again. I would be estatic!!! BUT!! Doubtful it will ever happen! David Carr and Billy Miller are friends. David lives in Sienna Plantation. Most likely just down for a visit.

rittenhouserobz
04-12-2006, 06:53 AM
I think Billy Miller did a great job as a Texan, but the team has moved forward. Now we have Bruener, Putzier, and Joppru. If Joppru lives up to the billing of multi-dimensional, then he could be the #1 TE on the team. It is not like, but possible. Billy Miller is not coming back.

TexansCM
04-12-2006, 09:46 AM
Glad I tuned in this morning!! One of my favorite topics!!:) Nothing I would like more than for Billy to get the chance to represent the Texans again. I would be estatic!!! BUT!! Doubtful it will ever happen! David Carr and Billy Miller are friends. David lives in Sienna Plantation. Most likely just down for a visit.

I thought so too, but he had 2 gallons of milk in his hands.

TexansCM
04-12-2006, 09:47 AM
BTW, I just started the thread to see if anyone else knew anything. I like Billy, but unless he decides to care about pass protection I see no reason to bring him back.

Meloy
04-12-2006, 10:17 AM
I thought I heard on 610 this morning( I was on tele) that Texans had just signed another TE to one year deal, I did not catch name but a 1 year deal for $750k (?) and said Rivers will not be back and he may be signing in Oakland. Anyone else have more info?

infantrycak
04-12-2006, 10:18 AM
I thought I heard on 610 this morning( I was on tele) that Texans had just signed another TE to one year deal, I did not catch name but a 1 year deal for $750k (?) and said Rivers will not be back and he may be signing in Oakland. Anyone else have more info?

Texans | B. Steele signed
Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:50:32 -0700

The Houston Texans have signed free agent TE Ben Steele (Packers) to a one-year contract with a base salary of $350,000.

thunderkyss
04-12-2006, 11:34 AM
Kubiak was with the Broncos when they let Billy Miller go after three years on the team (in which time he had 6 receptions). Assuming he agreed with that decision (likely as the OC) it seems unlikely Miller has any prospects with the Texans.

6 in his whole career?? & that was enough to lead the Texans in receptions in 2002?? However you slice it, I would have loved for him to have been on this team in 2005.

EDIT: I see.... 6 catches with the Broncos........ sorry......... I'm having problems with my reading comprehension these days.

I found this

http://www.footballguys.com/03face_billymiller.htm
Great find.

High Side by Maurile Tremblay
Billy Miller and Todd Heap were the only two tight ends in the league to lead their teams in receptions in 2002. Among all tight ends, Miller was fifth in receiving yards (613), and tied for fifth in fantasy points per game (5.7).

The Texans' offense, which was worst in the league last year, should improve with the acquisitions of running back Stacey Mack and offensive linemen Zach Wiegert and Greg Randall. The improvement ought to help Miller add to his numbers from last year, especially in the touchdown department. (David Carr threw only 11 touchdown passes in 2002; three of them were to Miller.)

In addition, the presence of WR Andre Johnson, the team's top draft pick, should prevent opponents from assigning a defensive back to cover Miller, as they often did last year. More frequent match-ups against linebackers instead of safeties can only be good for Miller.

Some may downgrade Miller because the Texans selected a tight end, Bennie Joppru, in the second round of this year's draft. I believe a downgrade for that reason would be a mistake. Although Joppru is not totally one-dimensional, the 274-pounder is known primarily for his blocking, while Miller is primarily a receiver. The Texans like to use multiple-tight end sets, so both Joppru and Miller will get plenty of playing time; but Joppru's presence shouldn't hurt Miller's receiving numbers any more than Ken Dilger's presence hurt Marcus Pollard's receiving numbers in 2001.

A rising tide lifts all ships, and the Texans' offense can only get better. I expect the undervalued Miller to hold his place in the upper second tier of fantasy tight ends.

Low Side by David Shick
Miller is not a special talent. For a guy that is know as a receiving TE, he won't impress you with his speed or great hands. His statistics during the 2002 season were mostly due to a lack of options in the Houston offense. Houston is looking to improve. If they wanted to just survive and remain one of the worst teams in the NFL, Miller would most likely still be worthy of starting on a fantasy team this coming year.

As the team improves, they will look elsewhere for production. QB David Carr will get the opportunity to showcase his rocket arm by utilizing his growing stable of WRs. Houston spent their first two picks in the 2003 draft on WR Andre Johnson (MIA) and TE Bennie Joppru (MICH). Johnson is expected to contribute immediately. Talk is that Joppru may even compete for the starting position. The book on Joppru is that he's an average blocking TE with great hands.

Miller put some numbers up while the Texans spent the year searching for an identity. He won't lead his team in receptions again. He may not even lead his team in TE receptions. Further casting doubt on Miller's situation, he isn't even signed to a contract as of this writing. If Houston does sign him to a contract, the length and terms of this contract may speak volumes about how they feel with regard to him being a centerpiece of the Houston offense in the future.

kiwitexansfan
04-12-2006, 03:37 PM
Texans | B. Steele signed
Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:50:32 -0700

The Houston Texans have signed free agent TE Ben Steele (Packers) to a one-year contract with a base salary of $350,000.

Anyone know anything about this guy??

Meloy
04-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Texans | B. Steele signed
Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:50:32 -0700

The Houston Texans have signed free agent TE Ben Steele (Packers) to a one-year contract with a base salary of $350,000. Thanks. You seem to have pretty good info, what is your read on this pick up? I assume he will be the back up to Putz?

TommyS
04-12-2006, 04:31 PM
4 receptions in 2004, appeared in 15 games, 0 receptions last year in 2 games.
on and off the packers practice squad last year.
played in NFLE in 2002, Vikes practive squad in 03/04

TC fodder, IMO


http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/236861

CaptainPatriot
04-15-2006, 06:03 PM
Has anyone heard if the Texans are thinking about bringing back Billy Miller? Today I saw him walking out of the convenience store in Sienna Plantation, I was still in my car so I didn't have a chance to talk to him.

I lived in the same apartment complex as him during the Texans first year and ran into him a few times there and I would have to say he looks like he has added a good deal of muscle weight. Maybe he is ready to step up his game on the blocking front and fight for a position at TE.


did he play last year for someone?

HoustonFan
04-16-2006, 01:08 AM
Miller was a favorite. jopru has turned out to be like Boseli - hurt and took the money and ran - can't be too mad at him, that BROAD!!! Anyway, I'd be cool w/ Miller coming back.

Vinny
04-16-2006, 01:46 AM
Anyone know anything about this guy??He played in NFLe a year ago and was supposedly a good run blocker. Little known prospect type from Mesa state.

Malloy
04-16-2006, 03:49 AM
jopru has turned out to be like Boseli - hurt and took the money and ran

Since it has been injuries that has kept him away from the field, I suspect he did not run away.

dalemurphy
04-16-2006, 05:07 AM
Miller was a favorite. jopru has turned out to be like Boseli - hurt and took the money and ran - can't be too mad at him, that BROAD!!! Anyway, I'd be cool w/ Miller coming back.


I have fond memories of Miller as well. However, if Billy Miller can make our 53 man roster then we are a very bad football team.

sakebomb
04-16-2006, 08:21 AM
2002 was a long time ago people.

aj.
04-16-2006, 08:35 AM
I thought so too, but he had 2 gallons of milk in his hands.

2 gallons? Must have been a pretty wild party at the Carr house. Giff Neilsen must have been over.

ArlingtonTexan
04-16-2006, 08:57 AM
2 gallons? Must have been a pretty wild party at the Carr house. Giff Neilsen must have been over.

It is a holliday weekend. :play:

DominickDavisFan76
04-16-2006, 09:00 AM
Why not Murphy?


Wouldnt open up enough Cap Space becuz.......We have to still take reggie

sakebomb
04-16-2006, 01:29 PM
Giff Neilsen must have been over.


Heck yeah he was. He brought the cookies.

SheTexan
04-16-2006, 06:14 PM
I thought so too, but he had 2 gallons of milk in his hands.

Billy has two little kid's. Maybe just taking care of his family, ya think??

gtexan02
04-16-2006, 06:23 PM
Maybe you mistook some big guy for Billy Miller? Are you so familiar with his facial features that you could be 100% sure it was him? Not trying to discret your post, just curious

TMac48
04-16-2006, 07:12 PM
Maybe you mistook some big guy for Billy Miller? Are you so familiar with his facial features that you could be 100% sure it was him? Not trying to discret your post, just curious
I don't think there's too many people that look like Billy.

dalemurphy
04-17-2006, 12:51 AM
I don't think there's too many people that look like Billy.


Dennis Johnson, the ex-Celtic guard, could be his father. Other than that, I think I'd have to agree with you.