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Blake
04-29-2004, 04:15 PM
Does this team scare anyone else?

Their O-line beefed up.

Their D-line beefed up.

Their secondary is a good tight group.

WR's could use some youth.

But if they get Collins, or Gannon steps back up to the plate, they could make a long run into winter.

Grid
04-29-2004, 04:34 PM
nah i think they still have too many problems, both on and off the field. they did get some nice talent but they are still old.

Ted Washington was their best pickup.. but thats about all im worried about. I think Gallery will be adequate this year.. but will need another year or two to start dominating.

Oakland and KC as the only teams in their division that are worth a flip though.. so its possible they may take the division from KC this year.. but id put my money on KC hitting the playoffs again.

rittenhouserobz
04-29-2004, 05:11 PM
Didn't Sapp do to them? I am pretty sure I would rather have Sapp than Washington. Age and weight being the primary reasons.

Grid
04-29-2004, 05:14 PM
I just think sapp is overrated. i dont think sapp will flourish in Oakland like he did in Tampa. He could prove me wrong though.. we will see.

TheOgre
04-29-2004, 05:28 PM
I think they should be significantly better but there are a few things that could hold them back:

1. Who is their featured back? If they can find one (Fargas?) then that will take pressure off of Gannon. Plus Norv Turner loves to run the ball.

2. Will Porter return to form? We saw last year what his absence did to the team. His speed keeps defenses honest, and opens the middle of the field for Rice and Brown. I'd also like to see if Jolley can return to the receiving TE he was 2 years ago.

3. Norv Turner. The guy doesn't have a good track record. That doesn't bode well for the Raiders.

I think they will be competitive. It is just a matter of how competitive. I hope they sign Collins BTW.

Reddevil63
04-29-2004, 09:21 PM
I just think sapp is overrated. i dont think sapp will flourish in Oakland like he did in Tampa. He could prove me wrong though.. we will see.
Actually with teams having to double big Ted he might have a very productive season. He hasnt seen a one-on-one match up in quite a while.

Fiddy
04-29-2004, 11:46 PM
I dont think you are going to be able to run on them, but there offense lacks any type of speed (Except Francis from TT).

keyfro
04-30-2004, 01:10 PM
i think the raiders will be a better team because hey...there isn't too much room for them to fall down...i still think they'll be drafting around the 10th spot though...they still need a runningback and some youth...this offseason all their FA's were older vets...but they did have a really good draft in my mind

V Man
04-30-2004, 01:47 PM
The Raiders will be better this year, just due the fact they had bad luck last year. Won't be that bad this year, and the new additions will help, but until the skill positions get younger they will have trouble making the playoffs again.

BigTex
04-30-2004, 01:53 PM
RAIDER'S, come on now. I thought there main priority coming into the Draft was GET A WR. They had every WR sitting there in their lap they went with Robert Gallery. Don't get me wrong they now have a franchise LT but still they have 80 year old men running passing routes for them, it's like having your grandpa running a slant in an arizona game trying not to get hit by Adrian Wilson. I just think they should have taken Fitz, or Williams and then traded up back into the first to pick up another solid player.

Blake
04-30-2004, 03:22 PM
RAIDER'S, come on now. I thought there main priority coming into the Draft was GET A WR. They had every WR sitting there in their lap they went with Robert Gallery. Don't get me wrong they now have a franchise LT but still they have 80 year old men running passing routes for them, it's like having your grandpa running a slant in an arizona game trying not to get hit by Adrian Wilson. I just think they should have taken Fitz, or Williams and then traded up back into the first to pick up another solid player.

I think Fitz would have been a better choice. Brown and Rice are most likely going to end it this year. Then who steps up? Fitz and Porter. Not to shabby.

SESupergenius
04-30-2004, 03:40 PM
Raiders have nowhere else to go but up. They've done a good job in the free agent market, got rid of the coach that every on didn't respect any more and the moral has to higher this year. They should be better than .500 and I can't wait to see them in Houston.

edo783
04-30-2004, 03:54 PM
The Raiders will probably get a bit of a "Dead Cat Bounce" this year. Maybe 8-8, but I see them imploding next year do to old age.

SBTexans08
04-30-2004, 04:00 PM
I too agree that they need youth on their route runners. I think it'd be in their best interest to not do so well this next season so they get some high picks in next year's draft for WRs. They've been making bad decisions since the start of their last season. Then they jump into the FA period and pick up really old guys to compliment other old guys, WTH? :confused: Didn't they go late WR late in the draft this year? :rolleyes:

HoustonTexansAreTheBest
04-30-2004, 04:00 PM
Raiders really have signed on some good players that should make that team very intersting. Gallery was a good pick, and they are trying to "rebuild" the O by starting with the OL first. I'm pretty sure Norv Turner knows what he is doing with the offense.

texman8
05-01-2004, 01:23 AM
Raiders will be somewhat better next season; maybe 6 to 8 wins. They are still old and still have holes to fill ; for example, their running game. I guess they are hoping J. Fargas is going to step up. I think they did the right thing in drafting Gallery and Grove. With Kennedy's retirement and Robbins' injury, they had to upgrade the OL; otherwise QB will get killed again. I don't think Tuiasoupo(sp?) is the answer. I was surprised they chose Francis ahead of Wilford and Cotchery in 4th. Anyway, it should be fun when they come visiting us.

HoustonTexansAreTheBest
05-01-2004, 07:11 AM
Gannon is still there, and they will probably most likely get a QB. I just don't see Tuiasoupo (Sp?) being the answer either. I read or heard somewhere that Raiders are waiting till June 1st to get a RB.

PHAROAH
05-01-2004, 09:21 PM
the raiders will be really tough!!!

DoCt3rJ
05-02-2004, 03:16 AM
Sapp will be good again, cause again, he will have another good guy next to him in Washington. If he went to the Cardinals or something, I dont think hed do as good. Thats why hes a little overrated, he needs help around him to be productive.

keyfro
05-02-2004, 02:17 PM
as long as the raiders have the al davis mentality they'll be tough...i don't know how sapp is going to fit into their defense...there has been talk about them switching to a 3-4...anyone else getting tired of other teams switching to the 3-4 defense

MarleyFan
05-03-2004, 03:18 AM
They also have Parrella coming back as a an interior lineman, with the addition of Sapp, and Washington there D-line should be money! Offense is still a question, but with no dominate team in the NFL, I think playoffs, no problem!

Scooter
05-03-2004, 10:05 AM
no comments as i know little about the raiders. my remark goes to replacing 80 year old receivers. rice in 2002 had 92 receptions for 1200 yards (9 catches 73 yards & 1 td in the superbowl), last year without a qb & with all their problems he had 63 receptions for 850 yards. if they can find a qb & a runningback to open the offense up, he's still very capable. if aj can get 92 receptions & 1200 yards we'll have one of the best wr's in the game, that's if he can keep up with an 80 year old man ofcourse.

Blake
05-03-2004, 05:47 PM
no comments as i know little about the raiders. my remark goes to replacing 80 year old receivers. rice in 2002 had 92 receptions for 1200 yards (9 catches 73 yards & 1 td in the superbowl), last year without a qb & with all their problems he had 63 receptions for 850 yards. if they can find a qb & a runningback to open the offense up, he's still very capable. if aj can get 92 receptions & 1200 yards we'll have one of the best wr's in the game, that's if he can keep up with an 80 year old man ofcourse.

He was just saying that they are getting old. Plus turning 42 from 41, is alot different than turning 25 to 26. He will start to fall big time in my opinion. Mark my words. If he doesnt get knocked out this season, he will have 500 yards and 3-4 tds this season.

word.

DoCt3rJ
05-03-2004, 05:53 PM
They missed Jerry Porter on offense for awhile last season, if he stays healthy, Brown/Rice/Porter trio should put some numbers up for Gannon, plus with TE Teyo Johnson on his second year ( I think hes gonna have a real good year ), their offense should be back to one of the top offenses. Running game is a question though without Garner's running and receiving, but the offensive line has beefed up also, so its not gonna take a pro-bowl RB to make some plays.

keyfro
05-03-2004, 06:01 PM
yeah if gallery is as good as everyone thinks he is than gannon's backside should be well protected...grove is a solid center even though they have two pretty good ones...francis and morant are nice additions to rice/brown/porter trio...but their defense will be what's in question the most

CaptainPatriot
05-03-2004, 06:54 PM
Not at all they are OLD! Probably get tired towards the end of the season

HoustonTexansAreTheBest
05-03-2004, 07:10 PM
Because they are old, does not mean they are not capable of still being one of the best at their positions. A great example is Jerry Rice.

Scooter
05-03-2004, 11:21 PM
Not at all they are OLD! Probably get tired towards the end of the season

well ... last year in week 15 rice had 10 receptions for 159 yards. the year before in the superbowl he had i believe it said 9 catches for 73 yards (might've been 5 for 77, it seems to have changed on raider site) & a td. rice & brown are arguably the hardest workers in football ... being 40 doesnt make men like that senile and immobile.