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Mario Williams
04-06-2006, 05:39 PM
Because there seems to be a few that still believe he won't be. Give me reasons/ evidence/ proof/ articles/ quotes that say he is the #1 pick.

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 05:43 PM
Because of his pro day workoutidonno:

Because he gives the Houston Texans another playmaker on offenseidonno:

Because Kubiak is an offensive coach that maybe likes to draft offensive players in the first roundidonno:

kingh99
04-06-2006, 05:45 PM
It seems like they built the offense around him. Big physical receivers who will block downfield. role player at other skill positions.

Apparently Reggie Bush is quite charismatic as well. People are attracte to him. The Texans could do a lot worse.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 05:52 PM
Especially with it obivous that the Saints will stay put & draft Ferguson, and the reports from KFFL.com that the Jets are NOT going to trade up, all signs point to Reggie. I just dont want to get too excited until it happens.:drool:

Huge
04-06-2006, 05:55 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/players/uploadedimages/casserly073103.jpg

There's your proof.

Frank_The_Tank
04-06-2006, 05:59 PM
I think they are dead set on taking Bush because ESPN and the rest of the media told me so. They know everything, I still do not believe the Texas Longhorns won the National Championship Game. ESPN said there was no way, quote "USC is the most powerfull team in the history of college football, there is no way the Longhorns will win" End Quote.

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 06:03 PM
I think they are dead set on taking Bush because ESPN and the rest of the media told me so. They know everything, I still do not believe the Texas Longhorns won the National Championship Game. ESPN said there was no way, quote "USC is the most powerfull team in the history of college football, there is no way the Longhorns will win" End Quote.

*sighs*

The Vince Young worshippers are LOSING:(

*cries*

Frank_The_Tank
04-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Sure we are? I would say its the Texans loosing if they pass on Vince. Its o.k. when Bush gets his toothpick legs broke in training camp we'll see who is laughing and crying.

KSig44
04-06-2006, 06:11 PM
You better look at you boy VY when you start talking about toothpick legs.

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Sure we are? I would say its the Texans loosing if they pass on Vince. Its o.k. when Bush gets his toothpick legs broke in training camp we'll see who is laughing and crying.

:thumbdown @ Vince Young having to sit 4 years just to learn how to make a pre-snap read under center:thumbdown

CarrIsFine
04-06-2006, 06:14 PM
I think they are dead set on taking Bush because ESPN and the rest of the media told me so. They know everything, I still do not believe the Texas Longhorns won the National Championship Game. ESPN said there was no way, quote "USC is the most powerfull team in the history of college football, there is no way the Longhorns will win" End Quote.
I know you are not living in reality, but you can take your pick of why the Texans will draft Bush:

Bush is one of the top prospects in the last 10 years, the Texans signed Carr to an extension, the guy can cut like Barry Sanders, he runs a 4.3-4.4 40 and he did 24 reps at 225. Want more?

Huge
04-06-2006, 06:17 PM
*sighs*

The Vince Young worshippers are LOSING:(

*cries*
Texas - 41
USC - 38

Yeah, we're all torn up. :rolleyes:

Texans_Chick
04-06-2006, 06:18 PM
1. David Carr QB bonus
2. Sage Rosenfels backup QB with nice sized salary.
3. Bush is a solid choice. Hard worker. Top quality college career and pro day. People who are being ugly about him are reaching. You can think that VY is a great player without discounting the excellent college career of Bush and trying to picture what sorts of trouble he could cause against NFL teams.
4. McNair wants to surround Carr with tools to succeed.
5. McNair wants to win ASAP.
6. The only way that Bob McNair could love David Carr any more would be to adopt him. You cannot listen to him speak on the subject without hearing that in everything he says. I am not saying this in a critical way, it just is what it is. A QB who knows that the owner has his back in a talk-radio-love-the-backup-QB age is something. Back in the day, QBs had more of that sort of support.


And one more thing.

Why the heck do I even try to participate in these threads??? The exaggerations by certain folks of various factions are just plain ole silly.

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Texas - 41
USC - 38

Yeah, we're all torn up. :rolleyes:

Vince Young's stock is fallinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg:tv:

KSig44
04-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Huge, at least you will have that to remember him by while he sits the bench in Oakland.

big homey
04-06-2006, 06:33 PM
-Bush is the consensus top-rated player, and we happen to have the top pick.
-The FO went all out to fill our needs in FA, so we won't need to trade down.
-We didn't resign Jonathan Wells, so we're thin at the RB position.
-Carr got his bonus, so the organization apparently has some faith in him.
-McNair wants to start winning, as opposed to rebuilding the team around VY.
-http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8423212506642092445&q=reggie+bush

Sarg01
04-06-2006, 06:33 PM
1. Jonathan Wells is still an unsigned FA.
2. We've signed FAs to fill our biggest needs, decreasing the criticality of selecting a D'Brick or Mario or Hawk or Vernon
3. The new staff has nothing but good things to say about David Carr.

Huge
04-06-2006, 06:39 PM
Vince Young's stock is fallinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg
Huge, at least you will have that to remember him by while he sits the bench in Oakland.
As a Cowboys fan (check the avatar), I'm hoping he falls a lot further than Oakland.

Longhorn eyebrows were raised when Chris Simms was drafted much lower than many thought. That seems to working out pretty well.

SheTexan
04-06-2006, 06:39 PM
You better look at you boy VY when you start talking about toothpick legs.

Took the words right out of my mouth!! Why worry about it. You will have your proof in a little over 3 weeks!!

Marcus
04-06-2006, 06:47 PM
Texas - 41
USC - 38

Yeah, we're all torn up. :rolleyes:

Just proof positive all you college frat rats can't get into the NFL game. Do yourselves a favor and stick to watching football on Saturdays. Sundays are a little out of your . . . ahem . . 'league'. lol:

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 06:52 PM
As a Cowboys fan (check the avatar), I'm hoping he falls a lot further than Oakland.

Longhorn eyebrows were raised when Chris Simms was drafted much lower than many thought. That seems to working out pretty well.

Did you forget that Chris Simms awful play in the playoffs was the main reason Tampa Bay was upset by the Redskins in their HOME stadium. The Buccaneers were the NFC South division champions but were beaten by a wild card Redskins in their home stadium because of the turnovers by Chris Simms.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 06:55 PM
Texas - 41
USC - 38


& this has what to do with the NFL ?

Marcus
04-06-2006, 06:57 PM
& this has what to do with the NFL ?

Careful now. VY homers don't like that question.

Señor Stan
04-06-2006, 07:01 PM
1. David Carr QB bonus
2. Sage Rosenfels backup QB with nice sized salary.
3. Bush is a solid choice. Hard worker. Top quality college career and pro day. People who are being ugly about him are reaching. You can think that VY is a great player without discounting the excellent college career of Bush and trying to picture what sorts of trouble he could cause against NFL teams.
4. McNair wants to surround Carr with tools to succeed.
5. McNair wants to win ASAP.
6. The only way that Bob McNair could love David Carr any more would be to adopt him. You cannot listen to him speak on the subject without hearing that in everything he says. I am not saying this in a critical way, it just is what it is. A QB who knows that the owner has his back in a talk-radio-love-the-backup-QB age is something. Back in the day, QBs had more of that sort of support.


And one more thing.

Why the heck do I even try to participate in these threads??? The exaggerations by certain folks of various factions are just plain ole silly.

Please keep doing so. Your dessert analogy a few threads back was priceless.

Mario Williams
04-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Just proof positive all you college frat rats can't get into the NFL game. Do yourselves a favor and stick to watching football on Saturdays. Sundays are a little out of your . . . ahem . . 'league'. lol:


:ok: :ok: :ok:

Huge
04-06-2006, 07:16 PM
Just proof positive all you college frat rats can't get into the NFL game. Do yourselves a favor and stick to watching football on Saturdays. Sundays are a little out of your . . . ahem . . 'league'. lol:
Wow, you really got me there. You should be touring. :rolleyes:

Did you forget that Chris Simms awful play in the playoffs was the main reason Tampa Bay was upset by the Redskins in their HOME stadium. The Buccaneers were the NFC South division champions but were beaten by a wild card Redskins in their home stadium because of the turnovers by Chris Simms.
And that performance ticked off the Bucs so bad they re-signed Simms to a $2.1 million deal. 'Course, it was only a 1 year deal so 'bout this time next year, Simms will probably be selling pencils on a sidewalk somewhere, right?

[Guiness guy] Brilliant! [/Guiness guy]

& this has what to do with the NFL ?
Not much...which would explain why this thread isn't on the NFL board.

But does it have anything to do with the draft? I would say college football has something to do with the draft. Agree or disagree?

TreWardTxn
04-06-2006, 07:25 PM
Vince Young's stock is fallinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg:tv:

If by "falling", you mean that many scouts (according to Morten Anderson) now have Young as the #1 QB in the draft, then yeah, he's through the basement...

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 08:11 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/players/uploadedimages/casserly073103.jpg

There's your proof.


LMAO! nice

PapaL
04-06-2006, 08:29 PM
Vince Young's stock is fallinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg:tv:

Opposite of his wonderlic, from 6 down to 17. LoL

barzilla
04-06-2006, 08:53 PM
Sure we are? I would say its the Texans loosing if they pass on Vince. Its o.k. when Bush gets his toothpick legs broke in training camp we'll see who is laughing and crying.

What I don't understand is what the VY folks want from this guy. He showed alot more strength than people thought he would and he looked more cut than people thought he would and yet the VY folks still want to denegrate this guy. Listen, I have nothing against VY and I think he will make a great pro. I simply believe Bush is better for us. I don't feel the need to bash VY to pump up Bush.

Kaiser Toro
04-06-2006, 08:55 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/players/uploadedimages/casserly073103.jpg

There's your proof.

You are our only hope Charlie-Wan.

Kaiser Toro
04-06-2006, 09:04 PM
Did you forget that Chris Simms awful play in the playoffs was the main reason Tampa Bay was upset by the Redskins in their HOME stadium. The Buccaneers were the NFC South division champions but were beaten by a wild card Redskins in their home stadium because of the turnovers by Chris Simms.

And the main reason why they got in the playoffs was due to him leading the Bucs over the Redskins in the regular season and giving the team confidence that he could man the position.

BrianC
04-06-2006, 09:09 PM
As a Cowboys fan (check the avatar), I'm hoping he falls a lot further than Oakland.

Longhorn eyebrows were raised when Chris Simms was drafted much lower than many thought. That seems to working out pretty well.


u heard it folks Vince Young is the next Chris Simms LOL definite sarcasm

seriously though, Vince Young=great college player and I think he has the chance to be a good pro, Im hoping he gets drafted by the Titans to build up the rivalry and also allow a little extra smack talkin to the V. Young nutriders when the Texans beat the Titans!!!

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 11:17 PM
If by "falling", you mean that many scouts (according to Morten Anderson) now have Young as the #1 QB in the draft, then yeah, he's through the basement...

Vince is not the #1 QB in this draft and you know it. If he was, then Tennessee would be the first team willing and ready to draft him @ #3, but they plan on taking Matt Leinart instead.

And the main reason why they got in the playoffs was due to him leading the Bucs over the Redskins in the regular season and giving the team confidence that he could man the position.

And what does this have to do with his performance in the playoffs?:confused:

OzzO
04-07-2006, 09:17 AM
In his press conference, Bush kept to himself most of the details of his conversations with team personnel. He did say, however, that the topic of who the Texans would select first on April 29 never arose.

“No, I didn’t directly ask them that question,” Bush said. “They didn’t really tell me anything directly, other than the fact that they’re excited for this upcoming draft and excited for me to be a Texan. And that’s pretty much as far as it goes. It’s still early and I don’t think that they would want to put that out there anyway. I wouldn’t want to, anyway.”


'nuff proof? (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/news_detail.php?PRKey=2485)

Mike Kerns
04-07-2006, 09:30 AM
"They didn't really tell me anything directly, other than the fact that they're excited for this upcoming draft and excited for me to be a Texan,"

- Reggie Bush

Mike Kerns
04-07-2006, 09:31 AM
Sorry A4toZ, you beat me by a few minutes....

MorKnolle
04-07-2006, 10:21 AM
A couple articles from various places today:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3777824.html
"They didn't really tell me anything directly, other than the fact that they're excited for this upcoming draft and excited for me to be a Texan," Bush said.
Bush is regarded as one of the best prospects in draft history. His elusiveness and speed have him often being compared to Hall of Fame running backs Barry Sanders and Gale Sayers, as well as St. Louis Rams running back Marshall Faulk.
There are a number of teams around the league that wish they were in the Texans' position. Even if a team doesn't have a particular need at running back, Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick said a player like Bush is too good to ignore.
"You never pass up dynamic talent," Billick said at the league meetings last month. "Is he all you need? No. But I'll take it."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/texans/3777786.html
IF you've been sniffling into your No. 10 Longhorns jersey since this Bush campaign gained steam and threw you into a blue state, stop it.
The decision has been made. To paraphrase NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue's April 29 comments, with the first pick of the 2006 draft the Houston Texans select Reggie Bush, running back, the University of Southern California.
Dry those tears. It's not about the Texans or anyone doubting Vince Young and never has been. It's about not finding so much as a hint of doubt in anything about Bush. It's about the NFL's greatest football minds studying and analyzing Bush in every way and not finding a flaw in his game or personality. Not so much as a wrinkle in his shirt. Not so much as a hair out of place or a conversation that does not include at least one, "yes sir."
If you've made talk-show rants like promising you'll refuse to renew season tickets or switch allegiances to the Tennessee Titans if the Texans do not draft Young, get real.
NFL draft analysis and preparation is not about what a prospect possesses, but what he does not possess. No matter how much the rest of us know Young will overcome any hitch in his throwing motion, Wonderlic score or footwork problem, the fact is those questions are out there. The NFL looked and found something.
No matter how great the rest of us know Young will be, the fact is he is projected as anything from a No. 3 to a No. 10 or lower draft choice.
NFL general managers, scouts and coaches are paid to find something wrong with every prospect. But they've found none of it in Bush.
Sure, some might have wondered about Bush's durability as a 5-11, 202-pound back. That was the 225-pound question, so to speak.
At USC's pro day, Bush took that critique and bench-pressed it 24 times. He also ran a 4.33 in the 40-yard dash and was disappointed he didn't run his usual 4.29.
Next question? There are none. Even if you cannot accept that the Texans will pass on Young, don't worry. That disappointment will end swiftly and impressively and Bush will convince you, as he did the entire league.
The quest for Bush's signature has escalated to the point he will earn the NFL equivalent of a LeBron James shoe contract. NFL players historically do not sign large shoe endorsement deals like those in the NBA, because it is difficult to put a face with a name. Bush is the exception, and is close to a contract with Adidas that will be the largest for a rookie in NFL history.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2006-04-05-saraceno-bush_x.htm
Outgoing draft party host Paul Tagliabue plans to begin the intrigue in New York this month with those words. If new Texans head coach Gary Kubiak is as smart as he looked in Denver, he will prevail upon management, if need be, to complete the commissioner's sentence this way:
"Reggie Bush from the University of Southern California."
OK, so it won't be the most popular pick in Houston since the stampeding days of thundering Earl Campbell. Thousands of Longhorns fans and Texan season ticketholders will have a burr in their saddles over the snub of Rose Bowl MVP quarterback Vince Young, but so what? Drafting Bush not only is the safe decision. It is the logical, prudent one.
Bush also had the day's highest vertical leap (40.5 inches) and longest broad jump (10 feet, 8½ inches). When no one was looking — which would've been difficult because the workouts were watched by more than 1,000 fans and recruits — the running back ducked into a phone booth, changed clothes and put on his cape.
Seriously, when Bush removed his shirt, jaws dropped. He was ripped. He bench-pressed 225 pounds — 24 times. "I think I proved I should be the (first) pick," he said very convincingly.

Mike Kerns
04-07-2006, 10:49 AM
Good job on the homework! :redtowel:

Huge
04-07-2006, 03:20 PM
I would disagree. The score of a college game from last year has nothing to do with "The NFL Draft and College Combine"

Agree or disagree?

Dallas :homer:
Even when the two most talked about players in this draft played in that game? Where one will forever be remembered for his performance while the other will be remembered for being on the sidelines when the game was on the line?

Bush :homer:

HomeBred_Texan
04-07-2006, 03:28 PM
Even when the two most talked about players in this draft played in that game? Where one will forever be remembered for his performance while the other will be remembered for being on the sidelines when the game was on the line?

Bush :homer:
Give it a rest. We don't need Vince, Don't want Vince, and we are not going to draft Vince... Vince Young = :homer:

tulexan
04-07-2006, 03:34 PM
I think that Bush will be remembered as one of the most electrifying players to ever play the game and as a Heisman winner. Not as being on the sidelines at the end of the Rose Bowl. If anything, Pete Carroll will be remembered for having him on the sidelines when the game was on the line.

Huge
04-09-2006, 10:20 AM
Give it a rest. We don't need Vince, Don't want Vince, and we are not going to draft Vince... Vince Young = :homer:
Do a little history on my posts concerning Vince Young. You're probably going to find that none of them have had anything to do with the Texans taking Young. Most have been about shooting down lame-*** theories floated up by those that don't think he has what it takes to succeed.

I don't care where Vince goes as long as it's not to an NFC East team. I'd like to see him drafted on a team that will give him the best opportunity to succeed. If that means he falls to the 18th pick, all the better.

Is this getting through yet?

And maybe you haven't noticed, but there have been hundreds of threads started by people that do want Vince.

I think that Bush will be remembered as one of the most electrifying players to ever play the game and as a Heisman winner. Not as being on the sidelines at the end of the Rose Bowl. If anything, Pete Carroll will be remembered for having him on the sidelines when the game was on the line.
Keep it in the proper context. We're talking about that specific game...not Bush's career.

Lucky
04-09-2006, 10:56 AM
If by "falling", you mean that many scouts (according to Morten Anderson) now have Young as the #1 QB in the draft, then yeah, he's through the basement...
Morten Anderson the kicker?

whiskeyrbl
04-09-2006, 11:51 AM
I think that Bush will be remembered as one of the most electrifying players to ever play the game and as a Heisman winner. Not as being on the sidelines at the end of the Rose Bowl. If anything, Pete Carroll will be remembered for having him on the sidelines when the game was on the line.

Ditto,I'm sure Bush didn't tell Carroll please sit me on this one.It was a bonehead play by the coach.Hell everybody knew who was getting the ball. If he was smart he would have had Bush in as a deversion,But I was happy we won that game. But clearly a coaching screwup!

kastofsna
04-09-2006, 03:14 PM
bush was on the sidelines because they had lendale white, who was ALWAYS used on 3rd and short plays. why go against what got you to your 4th straight BCS game?

gah, nothing worse than a cowboys AND longhorn fan.

DRIFTAWAY
04-09-2006, 03:21 PM
reggie bush will be a texan come the end of the month, count on it.

alphajoker
04-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Because there seems to be a few that still believe he won't be. Give me reasons/ evidence/ proof/ articles/ quotes that say he is the #1 pick.

IMO, through free agency, Kubiak and his staff have filled areas of need, OL help, #2 WR, MLB....not to mention, veteran help. After Bush is selected (should be, at least), the 33rd, 65th and 66th picks will be by best player available instead of needs just like their 1st.

bad
04-09-2006, 05:21 PM
...Give me reasons/ evidence/ proof/ articles/ quotes that say he is the #1 pick. I'm convinced by the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

All signs point to Reggie Bush being the #1 overall pick, to the Texans, and us keeping him. We may not "need" a running back, but we won't pass up the guy who's clearly head and shoulders above any other player to come out of the draft in years, both in talent and marketability.

Mike Kerns
04-09-2006, 05:41 PM
I'm convinced by the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

All signs point to Reggie Bush being the #1 overall pick, to the Texans, and us keeping him. We may not "need" a running back, but we won't pass up the guy who's clearly head and shoulders above any other player to come out of the draft in years, both in talent and marketability.

Agreed. This will finally get us a face of the franchise & some marketability OUTSIDE of Houston.

AlbinoRat
04-10-2006, 03:13 PM
On ESPN's schedule release special, they did a little thing on him, and said that unless contract negotiations or something like that fell through, then Reggie Bush will be the Houston Texans #1 pick.

swtbound07
04-10-2006, 03:27 PM
On ESPN's schedule release special, they did a little thing on him, and said that unless contract negotiations or something like that fell through, then Reggie Bush will be the Houston Texans #1 pick.

ESPN always nails these sort of things.....anybody wanna go console aaron rodgers?

BigBull17
04-10-2006, 03:43 PM
IMO, through free agency, Kubiak and his staff have filled areas of need, OL help, #2 WR, MLB....not to mention, veteran help. After Bush is selected (should be, at least), the 33rd, 65th and 66th picks will be by best player available instead of needs just like their 1st.

Lets hope BPA happends to be a Right Tackle, then Ill do tha boogalloooo in the streets.

TexanFan881
04-10-2006, 03:52 PM
ESPN always nails these sort of things.....anybody wanna go console aaron rodgers?

Last year is totally different than this year's draft. This year the best player available is by far the best player. Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith were considered pretty equal last year.

kastofsna
04-10-2006, 04:03 PM
it IS a little strange that i knew aaron rodgers would fall to green bay a full week before the draft, and ESPN knew nothing.

Mike Kerns
04-10-2006, 04:31 PM
it IS a little strange that i knew aaron rodgers would fall to green bay a full week before the draft, and ESPN knew nothing.

Wow. Thats pretty impressive. So.....who ARE the texans going to take on April 29th?

swtbound07
04-10-2006, 04:55 PM
Last year is totally different than this year's draft. This year the best player available is by far the best player. Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith were considered pretty equal last year.


not true at all. Espn always claims to know, espn never does. They can scream reggie all they want to.

Meskin
04-11-2006, 03:59 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/players/uploadedimages/casserly073103.jpg

There's your proof.

actually made me LOL, thanks!
(no sarcasm intended)

Huge
05-06-2006, 01:35 PM
Man, was I wrong about this one.

'Course, a few others were wrong as well...

Vince Young's stock is fallinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg
Huge, at least you will have that to remember him by while he sits the bench in Oakland.
Vince is not the #1 QB in this draft and you know it. If he was, then Tennessee would be the first team willing and ready to draft him @ #3, but they plan on taking Matt Leinart instead.
And you know there's always a gem thrown up by the resident Ms. Cleo...
bush was on the sidelines because they had lendale white, who was ALWAYS used on 3rd and short plays. why go against what got you to your 4th straight BCS game?

gah, nothing worse than a cowboys AND longhorn fan.
Actually, the play in question was 4th and short. But White was in on the previous play as well when it was 3rd and 7. Is that what a 'Cane/Dolphin fan would refer to as "3rd and short" or just somebody talking out of their butt?