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Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 08:32 AM
Just a heads up to everyone, heard this morning he'll be on after his workouts/meetings w/the team. The didn't say a time though.

Cheers

TexanFan881
04-06-2006, 08:33 AM
Just a heads up to everyone, heard this morning he'll be on after his workouts/meetings w/the team. The didn't say a time though.

Cheers

Thanks for the headsup :thumbup

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 08:36 AM
Damn, that means I have to sit through their Golf report for the next 2 hours....:rolleyes:

Johnny Utah
04-06-2006, 08:42 AM
I wonder how bitter Rich Lord is going to sound talking with Bush.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 08:48 AM
I wonder how bitter Rich Lord is going to sound talking with Bush.
No Kidding. I hope they don't take any calls from a VY homer to talk to Reggie.

jerek
04-06-2006, 09:02 AM
I wonder how bitter Rich Lord is going to sound talking with Bush.

I wonder if it is safe for Reggie to sit down with him. Might slip something in his gatorade.

Chicagotexan1
04-06-2006, 09:36 AM
I I Reggie should consider this his new hire orientation and that he is the Chosen One. Man, next thing you know we'll get busted for drinking at bars.

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 09:39 AM
Man, next thing you know we'll get busted for drinking at bars.

what?

powerfuldragon
04-06-2006, 09:48 AM
^Yeah, what does that mean?

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 10:00 AM
:confused:

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 10:34 AM
I would imagine it being after the Jim Rome show. Wonder if he will talk with Palillo on 790. That way we can actually hear what Bush has to say intead of Rich asking: "So, Reggie, what do you think of the amazing Vince Young ?":rolleyes:

chuckm
04-06-2006, 10:42 AM
Hopefully it'll be a phone interview .... I don't want Lord anywhere near Bush ...

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 10:46 AM
Hopefully it'll be a phone interview .... I don't want Lord anywhere near Bush ...

Yeah, but Rich does Flip-Flop sometimes. After meeting Reggie, he would probaly start the "I never said I wouldn't like Reggie in a Texans uniform!" I would imagine it will be a phone interview.

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 11:33 AM
Yeah, but Rich does Flip-Flop sometimes. After meeting Reggie, he would probaly start the "I never said I wouldn't like Reggie in a Texans uniform!"

Exactly. Man those 610 guys, McClain included are the worst at that. Personally i'd rather hear Palillo interview him.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 01:00 PM
Palillo would actually let him talk instead of interrupting every 2 minutes to talk about Teeth Whitening, or Trailer Wheel & Frame, or Go Dish, or Time Warner DVRs, etc.. 610 has become one giant plug for their sponsors. Give me the Palillo show anyday:twocents:

The Dude Abides
04-06-2006, 01:37 PM
I won't be able to listen. I hope someone can post the summary of the interview.

chuckm
04-06-2006, 02:46 PM
They just said that Bush should be on the air around 3:30 ...

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:05 PM
Palillo just said that he will have Reggie on later as well :yahoo:

chuckm
04-06-2006, 03:11 PM
he's on now

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 03:15 PM
Awesome, someone please summarize the 610 and 790 interviews.

Cheers

Mario Williams
04-06-2006, 03:17 PM
Those 610 idiots keep asking about Vince Young.

chuckm
04-06-2006, 03:18 PM
met with Running backs coach and offensive coordinator .... went over some zone running plays .....


how soon he can contribute? blocking scheme is very similar to USC also getting into camp on time is important to him ....


Texan's weapons? great, he wants to be a piece of the puzzle ....

Comparisons? doesn't like to compare himself to any previous players

Asked about Rose Bowl .... would have loved to win 3rd National Championship but still accomplished a lot

How important to get a deal done before draft? It'd be great, but he knows it's a business ...

Lord asked about Young (as expected) .... says Young is fast and elusive and will do well ... says QB position is tough for rookies but he'll have a great career

Asked about Houston and its fans .... first time in Houston but is looking forward to being a Texan


that's it

LikeABoss
04-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Those 610 idiots keep asking about Vince Young.

They're asking Reggie Bush about Vince Young:confused:

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Did Rich actually just ask him what he thinks about Vince Young ?!?!?!?!?! :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

The Dude Abides
04-06-2006, 03:19 PM
I caught the end. Their bringing McClain in for analysis....

Errant Hothy
04-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Did Rich actually just ask him what he thinks about Vince Young ?!?!?!?!?! :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

And teh greatest Man-Crunch of all time continues.

Mario Williams
04-06-2006, 03:20 PM
Did Rich actually just ask him what he thinks about Vince Young ?!?!?!?!?! :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

Yeah

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:20 PM
Wow, he amazes me......Let's see if tomorrow he asks Vince about Reggie.

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 03:26 PM
Did Rich actually just ask him what he thinks about Vince Young ?!?!?!?!?! :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall


horrible, just horrible.... :mad:


thanks for the wrap-up fellas.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:27 PM
McClain sounds pretty sold on Bush.......Flip Flopper

chuckm
04-06-2006, 03:27 PM
McClains on now ...

Errant Hothy
04-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Fun fact for the day:

Reggie has zero tattoos.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:29 PM
He's good for corporate america...

chuckm
04-06-2006, 03:31 PM
McClain on Reggie ......

he'll be second only to Manning in endorsements entering the league

joked around that he might be able to wear #5

has no tattoos

is ideal for the zone blocking scheme and is also well schooled in it .... 1 cut and go

also good in blitz pickup ... well schooled in it

will put on weight ... lifts weights like a "fiend"


is strong .... muscled but has sprinters legs

he'll be able to carry the load

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Said that he CAN bench 400

Errant Hothy
04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Did they just ask THAT?

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Rich, oh Rich....

" They could still get Reggie AND VY..."

chuckm
04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Lord asked McClain if the Texans could get this year's #2 for next year's #1, this year's #2 & #3 .....

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:35 PM
They are making fun of him though, calling him a "First time caller"

nunusguy
04-06-2006, 03:44 PM
I listened to Bush. The kid is sharp, I was impressed ! He can expess a thought in a complete sentence. He's articulate. He's obviosly confidant,
but not cocky. If we get him, besides a great football player we will get
a classy young man to represent the Texans.

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Said that he CAN bench 400

Yeah, i've heard that, the dude is extremely strong for his size.
I'm the exact same size as Bush and i can only bench 245 about 3 times on a good day, man i feel like a puss. LOL

Mr. White
04-06-2006, 03:50 PM
He talked like he'd hold out during camp if he had to.

Said that he wouldn't want to give a discount just to get into camp on time.

Blu
04-06-2006, 03:50 PM
Lord asked McClain if the Texans could get this year's #2 for next year's #1, this year's #2 & #3 .....
I love to daydream at work as well.:stirpot:

No tats...sweet..... #5 it would be cool to see him with that #.

Looks like I need to buy some Subway stock.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 03:51 PM
He talked like he'd hold out during camp if he had to.

Really? That wasn't the impression I got. He just isn't going to take a discount to come here. & why should he ?

Mr. White
04-06-2006, 03:56 PM
Really? That wasn't the impression I got. He just isn't going to take a discount to come here. & why should he ?

That's what i heard on the 610 interview. Not saying it's good or bad... it is what it is. He made it clear that he wants to get the right contract.

KSig44
04-06-2006, 03:59 PM
You think VY takes a discount to come here you are delusional.

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 04:05 PM
You think VY takes a discount to come here you are delusional.

Whats that have to do w/ANYTHING? This discussion is about Bush.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 04:11 PM
I think he was telling the VY homers to not start the rumor that we will take Vince because he would accept a smaller contract than Reggie...:twocents:

Nawzer
04-06-2006, 04:15 PM
It was a good interview. Nothing new but he came across smart and confident. If we pick him he should be a heck of a player for us.

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 04:21 PM
I just like how he is saying that he is excited to come here. He could just say "I just want to play in the NFL." But he is saying "I am looking forward to being a Houston Texan." No Eli Manning here :ok:

keyfro
04-06-2006, 04:29 PM
asking players about other players in this years draft is just stupid...what is he supposed to say oh i don't like him...i think he's not worth a high pick...comm'on...these guys should have to submit their questions before hand to the message board so we can ok them...haha

TreWardTxn
04-06-2006, 04:49 PM
McClain on Reggie ......

he'll be second only to Manning in endorsements entering the league

joked around that he might be able to wear #5

has no tattoos

is ideal for the zone blocking scheme and is also well schooled in it .... 1 cut and go

also good in blitz pickup ... well schooled in it

will put on weight ... lifts weights like a "fiend"


is strong .... muscled but has sprinters legs

he'll be able to carry the load

Let me take this a step further and add that McClain said from a distance Bush "looks like a receiver" and then something to the effect that, despite that or closer up, he looks sizeable (nothing small about him). NFL running backs don't look like receivers. The bench press for an NFL back means nothing as far as "carrying the load", it makes you less likely to get stripped, but your arms don't get tired running the ball, your legs do.

Frank_The_Tank
04-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Did he seal his own fate??? Having a guy undercontract is a big deal to Kubiak! It's like I said before the guy is looking for some 30 million dollar bonus with a 60 million dollar over 5 years. To think a guy who has had so much smoke blown up his butt would take anything less is just hopefull thinking. If he is as good as you all feel then he could probably will get a contract like that from some team, I doubt it will be the Texans though. We could take him and have a long drawn out fight over his contract, we really do not need the guy to play this year so we could take him and make him ride the pine untill that bubble head of his starts to deflate. Thats what Chicago did with Cedric Benson. If the Texans are dead set on taking the guy like the media has decided that we are, if they don't want to drade down, and they feel that he is the only draft pick they want, then draft his butt, and go to war with his agent. After watching the season start without him he will come to his senses.

Texans_Chick
04-06-2006, 05:30 PM
Did he seal his own fate??? Having a guy undercontract is a big deal to Kubiak! It's like I said before the guy is looking for some 30 million dollar bonus with a 60 million dollar over 5 years. To think a guy who has had so much smoke blown up his butt would take anything less is just hopefull thinking. If he is as good as you all feel then he could probably will get a contract like that from some team, I doubt it will be the Texans though. We could take him and have a long drawn out fight over his contract, we really do not need the guy to play this year so we could take him and make him ride the pine untill that bubble head of his starts to deflate. Thats what Chicago did with Cedric Benson. If the Texans are dead set on taking the guy like the media has decided that we are, if they don't want to drade down, and they feel that he is the only draft pick they want, then draft his butt, and go to war with his agent. After watching the season start without him he will come to his senses.

He made a point that he wanted to be in camp on time that this was important to him. When they asked about it more, you know being signed before the draft, he said that would be nice but that he wouldn't do it on a discount.

He made the impresssion that he would be signable.

SnakeOilTanker
04-06-2006, 06:02 PM
when is he suppose to be on Charlie, or has it already happend

texplayer2
04-06-2006, 07:59 PM
To think a guy who has had so much smoke blown up his butt would take anything less is just hopefull thinking. we really do not need the guy to play this year so we could take him and make him ride the pine untill that bubble head of his starts to deflate. draft his butt, and go to war with his agent. After watching the season start without him he will come to his senses.

:shocked :thumbdown :fans:

Sounds like you want to watch a Drama, rather than football.

Porky
04-06-2006, 08:07 PM
Did he seal his own fate??? Having a guy undercontract is a big deal to Kubiak! It's like I said before the guy is looking for some 30 million dollar bonus with a 60 million dollar over 5 years. To think a guy who has had so much smoke blown up his butt would take anything less is just hopefull thinking. If he is as good as you all feel then he could probably will get a contract like that from some team, I doubt it will be the Texans though. We could take him and have a long drawn out fight over his contract, we really do not need the guy to play this year so we could take him and make him ride the pine untill that bubble head of his starts to deflate. Thats what Chicago did with Cedric Benson. If the Texans are dead set on taking the guy like the media has decided that we are, if they don't want to drade down, and they feel that he is the only draft pick they want, then draft his butt, and go to war with his agent. After watching the season start without him he will come to his senses.

Huh? We have 3 weeks to the draft, and 5 months until the season, and you are bashing him for holding out before he has even been drafted. Freakin hilarious! :redtowel:

Mike Kerns
04-06-2006, 09:19 PM
Well, Porky, that's because VY would play for the Texans for free...:sarcasm:

tulexan
04-06-2006, 09:26 PM
He isn't going to holdout. Reggie's close friend and mentor is LaDainian Tomlinson who has been very outspoken since entering the league about holding out because he held out and has said that he regrets ever doing it. I would think that not holding out would be one of the major pieces of advice that he would give Reggie.

dat_boy_yec
04-06-2006, 09:30 PM
I can't believe those bastards didn't ask him what # he was considering for his jersey if 5 wasn't available, or if he had met any of the Texans players. They did a tour of the facilities maybe he ran into some players in the weight rooms. Damn those guys. I found it funny how Rich revealed how big of a mangina he's become for VY though. So what do you think of VY's prospect as an NFL player. WTF!!!?? I think Reggie showed class in answering that. If it had been me you would have heard the dial tone. The hell is wrong with those guys. Sometimes I feel like we should vote for one of the more knowleable board members to take Rich's place.

By the way did anyone catch the Palillo interview I read a few posts back that he would interview Bush as well. Any other tidbits.

tulexan
04-06-2006, 09:33 PM
There is an article on the Chronicle website that said that Reggie met with some players including David Carr.

Rovator
04-06-2006, 09:44 PM
why does this bigdave guy seem to absolutely hate reggie?

BradK10
04-06-2006, 09:50 PM
Rich Lord should be fired for asking Bush about Vince. What an embarassment.

TexanFan881
04-06-2006, 09:53 PM
Rich Lord should be fired for asking Bush about Vince. What an embarassment.

I'm sure Reggie was really excited to get asked about Vince. I'm sure he was thinking "o, he's an amazing player and I care so much about how he's going to do because he's going to impact my career very much"

:sarcasm:

Sportsfan
04-06-2006, 09:58 PM
Someone posted that he was going to be on 790 w/Palillo too. Anyone catch that?

chuckm
04-06-2006, 10:06 PM
The bench press for an NFL back means nothing as far as "carrying the load",

"Carry the load" were McClain's words, not mine

LoneStarState
04-06-2006, 10:56 PM
Rich Lord is pathetic. :homer:

BeReal
04-07-2006, 12:29 AM
How can bench press mean nothing regarding "carrying the load?" It may not directly mean anything, but it does represent upper-body strength. Which in turn represents his ability to take a hit (or deliver them), and ability to hold on to the ball without having it stripped. Or do mean his number of carries?

If he bench pressed 250 instead of 400, I'm willing to bet his ability to run the ball 10-20 times per game diminishes greatly. What's your definition of "carrying the load?"

Frank_The_Tank
04-07-2006, 01:28 AM
why does this bigdave guy seem to absolutely hate reggie?

I do not hate Reggie, I just think that the hype on the guy is very far feched. He is a top ten guy for sure, but people on here fail to see he is a product of the media hype. If you are going to judge a players ability you do it by looking at what a player has done in his Career, and you look at a person as a physical specimine. Everyone is all on Reggies twigs and berry's but I just don't see it. I see a 5'10 200 pound running back. I see Running Backs in this draft that are much more proven with a 25 to 30 carry load, sure Reggie has a strong Bench but when in the heck is he going to break tackles with his chest. I look at the numbers and they show Warrick Dunn, and Tiki Barber, who are bulit like Bush, and they are injury prone. I see Reggie as a guy who is going to be a hold out, he can say he wont untill he is blue in the face but this guy has let it be known that he is not comming with a discount. We are looking at 30 mil bonus, 60 mil over 5 years, and I dont see the Texans paying that much for the guy. If we were not active in the free agency then maybe, but we do not need the guy that bad, we picked up the needed talent this off-season to play with out him. Plus who in there right mind is going to pay that kind of money to a guy who will be a 18 play a game guy. You can argue that he will play specail teams but you know that is a lie, he does not have Jerome Mathis Speed (Olympic Qualifier) and no one is going to Bench their Pro-Bowl Special Teamer for a rookie. We have a great running back In D. Davis, who most of you peole have just crapped on. He has year in year out carried this ballclub and he is A PROVEN RB, no questions asked, he has walked the walk. I have nothing against Reggie personaly, I have never sat down and had a conversation with the guy, If I were him I would want that 30 mil bonus as well. I base my remarks off of factual information, most of you people just type what you feel and hardly ever produce evedence. I don't have to make up crap as I go, I will show you the facts and make my arguments.

Texans86
04-07-2006, 01:43 AM
I hate quoting latge posts, b/c they take up so much space, but this is in reply to BigDave.

You have many questions about Reggie Bush and many valid concerns about his size and durability. You brought up a valid point that he probably won't be breaking many tackles with his chest, which is why I sometimes wish leg press was also used in the scouting process. You had two points that actually ran together, but were on opposite ends of the paragraph. You stated that there are backs that can carry a load, and that DD is a very capable back. Both are very true, however, when put together you realize that he doesn't have to carry the load permanantly. He and DD will shift in and out and also be on the field at the same time in many situations, I'm sure. Many teams are beginning to realize that to have a successful running game, you need two sets of legs that can be mixed in and out, and also that that formula produces some of the best results. The Denver comparison is not only true b/c of Kubiak ran that offense, but I think they had two electric runners. The guy has talent. and unlike many people keep saying, he is built so he shouldn't break easily. He's 200 lbs., which may not seem big, but he is ripped. Will he be the back to pound the ball between the tackles for 25-30 times a game, absolutely not. But he never claimed he could. Can he do it every once in a while, ablsolutely. Besides, we still have DD, and he is great at breaking those inside tackles and getting the extra couple of yards. He isn't big either, but he knows how to churn his legs. We'll see, if Reggie doesn't know how to keep is legs moving like DD, he might learn something and become even better. Scary thought.

Runner
04-07-2006, 01:46 AM
He made a point that he wanted to be in camp on time that this was important to him. When they asked about it more, you know being signed before the draft, he said that would be nice but that he wouldn't do it on a discount.

He made the impresssion that he would be signable.

Hopefully he'll take a page out of Dre's book and think it is important to be in camp and realize that a lot of money is a lot of money. Dre's uncle/agent said (paraphrased) $37M is a lot of money - why risk the start of your career by holding out for a relatively little more?

I am pulling that $37M number from memory but it is in the ballpark, and yes - I realize Bush will command more.

phan1
04-07-2006, 02:04 AM
I do not hate Reggie, I just think that the hype on the guy is very far feched. He is a top ten guy for sure, but people on here fail to see he is a product of the media hype. If you are going to judge a players ability you do it by looking at what a player has done in his Career, and you look at a person as a physical specimine. Everyone is all on Reggies twigs and berry's but I just don't see it. I see a 5'10 200 pound running back. I see Running Backs in this draft that are much more proven with a 25 to 30 carry load, sure Reggie has a strong Bench but when in the heck is he going to break tackles with his chest. I look at the numbers and they show Warrick Dunn, and Tiki Barber, who are bulit like Bush, and they are injury prone. I see Reggie as a guy who is going to be a hold out, he can say he wont untill he is blue in the face but this guy has let it be known that he is not comming with a discount. We are looking at 30 mil bonus, 60 mil over 5 years, and I dont see the Texans paying that much for the guy.

I have no idea where you picked up the idea that RB will be hard to sign. If anything, I think the opposite will happen. Bush has been nothing but a class act ever since he's been on the field. He is intelligent, well spoken, and genuinely the most likeable person I've ever seen coming into the draft. People just love this guy, and I haven't hear one single account of him misrepresenting himself or ever saying anything that might damage his character. Plus, he's going to get endorsements through the roof. This guy is respectful, humble, and will be in training camp from day 1. For someone who thinks RB is just a bunch of media hype, it seems you are buying the media hype by assuming RB will want a gazillion dollar deal because he's so highly reguarded by the press.

And as far as facts are concerned, it is "fact" that he is generally reguarded as the best player in the 2006 draft by people who do this stuff for a living. And for facts, you are assuming a whole lot about RB. While being a small back is a concern, he hasn't show himself to be any more injury prone than other small players like Faulk, Westbrook, and Tiki. Plus, I don't think he's even shown that he can't run hard in-between the tackles. Emmit Smith can't push the pile, but he ends up on the other side of it some way or another. While we have "concerns", a lot of this stuff has been totally unproven. And as far as just being a 6-1 200 pound back, I highly doubt ANY NFL back could put up numbers that this guy can. Add in his 40 time, verticle, bench, and this guy is just a genetic freak. If you want to go by "facts", look at his pro-day numbers and what he did at USC and some game tape.

Frank_The_Tank
04-07-2006, 02:17 AM
Phan1 look up how much Ronnie Brown got last year and the truth will smack you in the face. I posted the number on another thread, over 20 mill, and proved my point about the huge contract he will be asking for, but hey if you say it will not be that much you just keep on beleiving it.

phan1
04-07-2006, 03:01 AM
Phan1 look up how much Ronnie Brown got last year and the truth will smack you in the face. I posted the number on another thread, over 20 mill, and proved my point about the huge contract he will be asking for, but hey if you say it will not be that much you just keep on beleiving it.

I think he will likely be asking for a lot of money. And I also think the Texans are going to want to pay him what he's worth as a #1 pick. Either way, I'm saying that he's a class act, and I do not expect him to hold out. I expect a lot of professionalism between RB and our organization and a deal to be done promptly and swiftly. They probably verbally agreed on a deal already for all we know. You make it sould like signing RB will be like pulling teeth and that he will singlehandedly put us in cap hell while holding out until game 1 starts. Odds are, that's not likely to happen.

Napa Auto Parts
04-07-2006, 03:21 AM
About Reggie Bush will he be demanding more money that Alex Smith since alex was the 1st pick would it not matter that smith is a QB very interesting if we have to pay Reggie like the top QB drafted last year. from my understanding its ussually a 10% percent increase but would it be different since reggie is only a RB.:stirpot:

phan1
04-07-2006, 04:29 AM
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if QBs should be paid more coming off of the draft. I mean C'mon! They're likely to be benched or have limited playing time their rookie season, and it's likely that they won't live up to their paycheck, even if they do become a solid starter. Talk about being overpaid.

tulexan
04-07-2006, 10:29 AM
How can bench press mean nothing regarding "carrying the load?" It may not directly mean anything, but it does represent upper-body strength. Which in turn represents his ability to take a hit (or deliver them), and ability to hold on to the ball without having it stripped. Or do mean his number of carries?

If he bench pressed 250 instead of 400, I'm willing to bet his ability to run the ball 10-20 times per game diminishes greatly. What's your definition of "carrying the load?"


That is where the 40 inch vertical and the 10 foot broad jump come into play. You can't have numbers like those with weak legs.

BeReal
04-07-2006, 10:48 AM
That is where the 40 inch vertical and the 10 foot broad jump come into play. You can't have numbers like those with weak legs.

True, and I completely agree. But to state that upper-body strength has nothing to do with "carrying the load," is untrue.

tulexan
04-07-2006, 10:52 AM
True, and I completely agree. But to state that upper-body strength has nothing to do with "carrying the load," is untrue.

I agree. Punters and kickers have extremely strong legs, but would be killed if they tried to run the ball because they have no upper body mass.

infantrycak
04-07-2006, 12:12 PM
I see Running Backs in this draft that are much more proven with a 25 to 30 carry load

Actually, you won't see a 1st round RB taken with more than 25.75 carries per game.

Reggie Bush 15.5
DeAngelo Williams 25.75
LenDale White 15--oh my god, guess he can't run 25+ times since he hasn't done it.
Laurence Maroney 23.5

But wait let's look at the NFL league leaders for attempts per game:

Edge 24
Shaun Alexancer 23
Tiki 22
Portis 22
LT 21

But hey, keep the streak alive in not letting facts get in your way.

Mike Kerns
04-07-2006, 12:19 PM
But hey, keep the streak alive in not letting facts get in your way.


Excellent :redtowel:

Errant Hothy
04-07-2006, 01:37 PM
Actually, you won't see a 1st round RB taken with more than 25.75 carries per game.

Reggie Bush 15.5
DeAngelo Williams 25.75
LenDale White 15--oh my god, guess he can't run 25+ times since he hasn't done it.
Laurence Maroney 23.5

But wait let's look at the NFL league leaders for attempts per game:

Edge 24
Shaun Alexancer 23
Tiki 22
Portis 22
LT 21

But hey, keep the streak alive in not letting facts get in your way.


BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Why is it that childish things sometimes feel so good?

Edit 2: Trivia Time with Hoth-Boy
How much did Tomlison (sp?) weigh coming out of TCU?

Bamaborn-Texasbred
04-07-2006, 01:59 PM
You can tell by my username how I used to feel about this year's pick.

I have flip-flopped. Unless the Texans get some team to give them a rediculously loaded deal for the pick, I say take Bush. He looks like the real thing to me, on and off the field.

KSig44
04-07-2006, 02:02 PM
Cnnsi had LT at 225, don't know how accurate it is.

tulexan
04-07-2006, 02:07 PM
How many 30 carries/game backs have ever been in the NFL?

Better question, how many times has a RB averaged over 25 carries per game?

3 times in the history of the modern era.

Jamal Anderson in 1998 410 carries
James Wilder 1984 407 carries
Eric Dickerson 1986 404 carries

Errant Hothy
04-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Cnnsi had LT at 225, don't know how accurate it is.

He was listed at 220, but I've talked to several people who said he played much closer to 200. But to his credit he hit the combine at 220.

Damn last time I post something without solid back-up. Point conceeded, but I still say draft Reggie.

Move along, nothing to see here. Move along.

swtbound07
04-07-2006, 02:40 PM
How many 30 carries/game backs have ever been in the NFL?

Better question, how many times has a RB averaged over 25 carries per game?

3 times in the history of the modern era.

Jamal Anderson in 1998 410 carries
James Wilder 1984 407 carries
Eric Dickerson 1986 404 carries


Not disputing your facts, just curious. how many carries did caddilac Williams get last year per game? It seemed like gruden was riding him pretty hard.

BeReal
04-07-2006, 02:45 PM
Roughly 18 per game I think.......

tulexan
04-07-2006, 02:48 PM
Over the entire season, he averaged 20.71 carries/game (290 carries 14 games)

Over the first 3 games of the season he averaged 29.33 carries per game (88 carries). Not surprisingly, he was injured the next 3 weeks and the next time he had 20 or more carries in a game was almost 2 months later.

TexanFan881
04-07-2006, 02:50 PM
Not disputing your facts, just curious. how many carries did caddilac Williams get last year per game? It seemed like gruden was riding him pretty hard.

About 21 and a half. He had 37 carries in just his third start :wow: but was probably pushed to far and got hurt but he got hurt the 4th or 5th game. Then the load for him was lightened after that and he didn't get hurt for the rest of the year :cool:

swtbound07
04-07-2006, 02:51 PM
Over the entire season, he averaged 20.71 carries/game (290 carries 14 games)

Over the first 3 games of the season he averaged 29.33 carries per game (88 carries). Not surprisingly, he was injured the next 3 weeks and the next time he had 20 or more carries in a game was almost 2 months later.


Thanks...i thought i remembered those first few games as being a bit obscene. Gruden really drove him too hard.

tulexan
04-07-2006, 03:07 PM
I think if Gruden could do it over again, he would have rested Cadillac a little more at the beginning of the season. I don't care how big a player is, nobody can carry the ball that much every week and stay fresh.

Another interesting statistic is that when Marshall Faulk won the league MVP award in 2000, he averaged 18.07 carries/game and 5.73 catches/game. I don't think that these are unreasonable amounts of carries and catches for Reggie, especially considering how he will be used in our offense.

I guess that shows that you don't have to be a 25+ carry/game back to be effective or valuable to a team.

KSig44
04-07-2006, 03:11 PM
What is the average plays a game for an NFL offense? something lie 60? If Bush touches the ball 15 times a game that is 1/4th of the total plays. Not bad.

Runner
04-07-2006, 03:13 PM
I guess that shows that you don't have to be a 25+ carry/game back to be effective or valuable to a team.

In other words, it turns out that arbitrary number thrown out as "fact" and "requirement" was entirely baseless.

tulexan
04-07-2006, 03:15 PM
In other words, it turns out that arbitrary number thrown out as "fact" and "requirement" was entirely baseless.


Pretty much

phan1
04-08-2006, 01:00 AM
The only guy I know who can truly be a 25-30 carries a game back and push the pile every time was Ricky Williams (before he had his little off-season). The Dolphins absolutely ran this guy into the ground. He had a pretty bad Oline in front of him too! I think he has an NFL record of 42 carries in a game. If my team still couldn't win a game after I had just put up 200+ rushing yards, I'd want to go get stoned out of my mind in India too!

infantrycak
04-08-2006, 01:11 AM
The only guy I know who can truly be a 25-30 carries a game back and push the pile every time was Ricky Williams (before he had his little off-season). The Dolphins absolutely ran this guy into the ground. He had a pretty bad Oline in front of him too! I think he has an NFL record of 42 carries in a game. If my team still couldn't win a game after I had just put up 200+ rushing yards, I'd want to go get stoned out of my mind in India too!

Ricky was a hoss. But his example should point away from the 30 carry a game image. Fact is he never averaged 25 carries a game. In his closest year he ended up averaging 24.5 carries per game and his ypa fell to 3.5. They ran him 76 times in games 2 and 3 including his 42 carry game and then it took him eight weeks to get over 4 ypc. The week after his 42 carry game he averaged 1.8 ypc. JMO but the RB wearing down the D theory is silly. The OL wears down the D and let's a not too worn out RB scamper, not the other way around.

Runner
04-08-2006, 01:43 AM
I'll take a guy who can get his hundred yards in 18 carries over the one who gets them in 25 - as a general premise.