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WiiBrawler
03-31-2006, 07:10 AM
Imagine This Offense thread is when someone puts their realisticly dream offense, also give stats to how good the player is.

For Example

QB-David Carr(3500 Yards 23 TD's)
RB-Reggie Bush/Domanick Davis(Both 800 yards 5 touchdowns,but rush well in big situations!)
FB-Jamel Cook?- I dont know who the fullback is gonna be?
WR1-Andre Johnson(1200 Yards 10 TDs |WR2 Eric Moulds(1000 7 TDs
Oline- Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Wand|25 Sacks

KR: Jerome Mathis 5 TD Returns!

texman8
03-31-2006, 07:17 AM
Looks Good.... BUsh/Davis should get more than 800 yard avg. more like 2100 yards combined. SEE Broncos last season.....Anderson 1100 yds. Bell 970 yds.

Sacks allowed: less than 35 ...would be ok

Mathis : 2 to 3 TD returns

Should be a dynamic offense with added pieces and better offensive staff and schemes.

thunderkyss
03-31-2006, 07:35 AM
First off, let me say I'm not big on Reggie playing in Texas...

that being said, I'd be pretty upset if he only equates to 5 TDs. I even expect DD to average close to one a game. Mike Anderson & Tatum Bell combined for 20 rushing touchdowns, and Anderson added 5 recieving TDs in 2005. Surely we can get that out of these two.

Andre on one side, Moulds on the other, a big tight end, two Recieving running backs(one that could "take it to the house") and a pass catching Full back............ I expect to see 23 touchdowns out of David Carr by week 10. He'd better be pushing 30 before the end of the season. Dang, I forgot Armstrong and Mathis.......... yeah, I expect more than 23 touchdowns out of Carr....... unless we're sitting him the 4th quarter because we're blowing teams out of the water.:drool:

el toro
03-31-2006, 07:42 AM
Plenty of possibilities, no doubt.

The one I like is

AJ
DD
RB
JP
EM

Defenses won't know if the run or pass is coming with that lineup.

texan279
03-31-2006, 07:59 AM
First off, let me say I'm not big on Reggie playing in Texas...

that being said, I'd be pretty upset if he only equates to 5 TDs. I even expect DD to average close to one a game. Mike Anderson & Tatum Bell combined for 20 rushing touchdowns, and Anderson added 5 recieving TDs in 2005. Surely we can get that out of these two.

Andre on one side, Moulds on the other, a big tight end, two Recieving running backs(one that could "take it to the house") and a pass catching Full back............ I expect to see 23 touchdowns out of David Carr by week 10. He'd better be pushing 30 before the end of the season. Dang, I forgot Armstrong and Mathis.......... yeah, I expect more than 23 touchdowns out of Carr....... unless we're sitting him the 4th quarter because we're blowing teams out of the water.:drool:

Only 5 RB's in the last 3 seasons have rushed for 16 or more TD's. If we draft Bush I wouldn't expect DD to get anywhere near a TD a game if he and Bush are sharing the backfield, especially if DD has durability issues like he has in the past. And 23 TD passes from Carr by week 10? In the past 3 seasons only 7-8 QB's a season have thrown for more than 23 TD passes in season. I mean I am sure we'll see improvement as a whole, but I don't think our offense will be performing like an Indy, KC, or Cincy offense.

dalemurphy
03-31-2006, 08:19 AM
Imagine This Offense thread is when someone puts their realisticly dream offense, also give stats to how good the player is.

For Example

QB-David Carr(3500 Yards 23 TD's)
RB-Reggie Bush/Domanick Davis(Both 800 yards 5 touchdowns,but rush well in big situations!)
FB-Jamel Cook?- I dont know who the fullback is gonna be?
WR1-Andre Johnson(1200 Yards 10 TDs |WR2 Eric Moulds(1000 7 TDs
Oline- Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Wand|25 Sacks

KR: Jerome Mathis 5 TD Returns!


I prefer:

Qb- carr (63%comp, 4000yds, 12int)
RB- DDAvis/Morency/MDrew (4.3yds/carry, 2000 combined yds)
FB- Cook/Norris
TE- Putzier (55rec, 700yds)
WR- AJ (80, 1300)
WR- Moulds 65, 1000)
OL- Ferguson-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Pitts (34 sacks)

thunderkyss
03-31-2006, 09:07 AM
I prefer:

Qb- carr (63%comp, 4000yds, 12int)
RB- DDAvis/Morency/MDrew (4.3yds/carry, 2000 combined yds)
FB- Cook/Norris
TE- Putzier (55rec, 700yds)
WR- AJ (80, 1300)
WR- Moulds 65, 1000)
OL- Ferguson-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Pitts (34 sacks)

34 sacks??

Mike Kerns
03-31-2006, 09:28 AM
Carr = 3300 yds, 21 TD, 9 Int.
Reggie/Davis = 2300 yds, 16 TD
AJ/Moulds = 2100 yds, 17 TD
Jeb = 650 yds, 2 TD
Mathis = 2 TD returns

TheOgre
03-31-2006, 09:30 AM
I prefer:

Qb- carr (63%comp, 4000yds, 12int)
RB- DDAvis/Morency/MDrew (4.3yds/carry, 2000 combined yds)
FB- Cook/Norris
TE- Putzier (55rec, 700yds)
WR- AJ (80, 1300)
WR- Moulds 65, 1000)
OL- Ferguson-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Pitts (34 sacks)

I prefer
QB - Carr
RB - Bush/DD/Morency
FB - Cook/Norris
TE - Putzier/Pope/Joppru/Bruener
WR1a - AJ
WR1b - Moulds
OL - Pitts, McKinney, Flanagan, Wiegert, Jonathan Scott (3rd)

infantrycak
03-31-2006, 09:44 AM
34 sacks??

That would be:

18th in 2005
12th in 2004
15th in 2003

Not fantastic, but at least reasonable.

edo783
03-31-2006, 10:36 AM
Realisticaly I doubt DC throws for more than 3,500 yards as the offense that GK runs is very much a run oriented one, so that means passing ISN'T the first thought. However, IF, IF, IF the O-line gives the standard NFL pass protection of 3.5 to 4.5 seconds of protection, then DC should hit a number of 60%+ completions, somewhere close to a 2-1 TD to INT ratio and a QB rating of 90 or more. Doing that, he will have done his part of the job and the rest is predicated on scheme and the rest of the squad. Personally, I would like to see him do a better job of selling the play action and getting rid of the ball. Those are things that can be worked on, but are hardly the be all end all of QB play. Lots of folks have made much ado about not looking for the 2nd and 3rd reciever, but ESPN put a stopwatch on a game or two last year and he had an average of 1.5 seconds before the defense was on him. I challenge anyone to take a three step drop and read more than one reciever in 1.5 seconds. If you say you can, then you are delusional. Also, 20 self sacs...OK, out of 208 times he ran out of bounds behind the LOS for a loss of a yard or two. So what. No one get's bent out of shape if DD gets hit behind the line. Now should DC have tossed it away, yes, but it isn't like he ran backwards and caused a 20 yards loss. So, ~10% of the sacks are self inflicted so that means out of the 64 games played we have average 3.25 sacks per game and even calling it 30% that is about once a game he runs out of bounds for a 1-3 yard loss. Now, some games it probably was 2 or 3 times, but no one remembers the game when it didn't happen and just focus on the ones it did. Some of this is people who didn't want DC in the first place, but wanted Pepers. Others for some reason get all Pizzy because of the hair and GQ thing (Jelousy?) and others are those who want to draft VY. Everyones play last year sucked including DCs, but I suspect that IF, IF, IF we improve the O-line and protection to where he can count on 3.5 to 4.5 seconds on a CONSISTANT (more than 85% of the time) basis, we will see a really good QB come about. Will he be great......who knows, but I think he will be a good one with a good line, supporting players and a quality coaching group. With what seems to be the other players coming about, I could see a strong turn around this year, PERHAPS even an 8-8 season, but the 07 season should/could be a playoff run one IMO.

DRAMA
03-31-2006, 10:48 AM
QB- Carr (61%comp, 3850yds, 23-12int)
RB- Bush (1,200yds - 11TD's - 50rec -600yds) /Davis(700 - 5TD's)
FB- Cook (25 rec 275yds)
TE- Putzier (50rec, 550yds, 6TD's)
WR- AJ (84rec, 1190yds)
WR- Moulds (70rec, 1000yds)
WR- Walter (36rec, 540yds)

Frank_The_Tank
03-31-2006, 11:01 AM
This thread looks like my Madden end of season stats, - The RB. I think I am very optomistic, but I really don't know about some of the dreams about Carrs stats. I give him 23 TD next year and maye 2900 yrds, I find it very interesting to see how he performs. He is very skittish in the pocket, and at times I think most NFL QB's could scramble out of most of the sacks he took last year. He had something like 17 one handed sacks last year, and as a QB you have to hard be to catch, very elusive, like chasing a chicken in a chicken coope.

blockhead83
03-31-2006, 11:20 AM
On paper, and considering Kubiak is running the show now, we should have a very potent offense next season, especially if we sign Moulds and Bush. The real questions in the equation are, 1.) Will the offensive line stay healthy, and if they do, will they atleast perform to a satisfactory NFL level? 2.) Is David Carr with weapons and protection much better than David Carr without weapons and protection? Hopefully Carr doesn't pull a Joey Harrington and stink the place up when he's in an optimal situation. If Carr is provided with a chance and he finally steps up his game I could see things playing out like so:

QB: Carr (3200 yds, 21 TD, 9 Int)
RB: Bush (700 rushing yds, 1100 all purpose, 6 TD's), DD (900 rushing yds, 5 TD's)
WR: AJ (75 receptions, 1100 yds, 8 TD's), Moulds (55 receptions, 800 yds, 4 TD's)
TE: Putzier (40 receptions, 600 yds, 4 TD's)

OLine: (Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Wiegert-Wand) Sacks in the 30's

thunderkyss
03-31-2006, 11:46 AM
.......... but ESPN put a stopwatch on a game or two last year and he had an average of 1.5 seconds before the defense was on him. I challenge anyone to take a three step drop and read more than one reciever in 1.5 seconds. If you say you can, then you are delusional.
I do remember maybe two plays, where he didn't have time to get his third step down. That definitely wasn't his fault. But on a three step drop, he's supposed to throw the ball. there is no reading involved. the reciever is either open, or not. if he's open, you put it where he can catch it. If he's not, zing it over his head out of bounds. I've seen several times, where he had more than 1.5 seconds, and ended up running into a sack...... i honestly think 20 times is a low estimation. I don't think he had adequate protection. But I still think he could've played better. going out of bounds with the ball.... to me, 1 time is too many when you're in your 4th year. Curling up in the fetal position....... 1 time is too many in your rookie season.
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................but no one remembers the game when it didn't happen and just focus on the ones it did. Some of this is people who didn't want DC in the first place, but wanted Pepers, or Joey and others are those who want to draft VY.
true.
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Everyones play last year sucked including DCs,
As far as I can tell, everyone who sucked, are either gone, or will play a new position last year. (nothings been decided on Buchanon, or Wiegart yet).
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but I suspect that IF, IF, IF we improve the O-line and protection to where he can count on 3.5 to 4.5 seconds on a CONSISTANT (more than 85% of the time) basis, we will see a really good QB come about. Will he be great......who knows, but I think he will be a good one with a good line, supporting players and a quality coaching group. With what seems to be the other players coming about, I could see a strong turn around this year, PERHAPS even an 8-8 season, but the 07 season should/could be a playoff run one IMO.

I use to think David was going to be the next Troy Aikman. Right now, IMHO I believe we have an opportunity to upgrade....... before FA, before the $8 mill extension, Everything was perfect to upgrade the position.

Come Sept. 1, I'll be back to thinking he's Troy Aikman.

rmartin65
03-31-2006, 02:28 PM
This is going to be a great offensive season. And Mathis will score some on offense as well, you are leaving that out.

whiskeyrbl
03-31-2006, 02:40 PM
I see it as
Carr 62% comp. 2700 yrds 24 TD 11 INT
DD 850 yrds rus 250 yrds rec 10 TD's 8 rus/2 rec
Bush 1250 yrds rush 400 yrds rec 12 TDs 6 rus/5 rec/1 pass
AJ 85 rec/ 1100 yrds rec 7 Td
EM 60 rec/ 800 yrds rec 5 TD
KW 35 rec/ 550 yrds rec 3 TD
JP 25 rec/ 350 yrdsrec 3 TD
JM 32 yrd ave KO ret/ 3 TD
PBuch 16 yrd ave.PR/ 1 TD
OL - 30 sacks

TexanFanInCC
03-31-2006, 02:44 PM
Imagine This Offense thread is when someone puts their realisticly dream offense, also give stats to how good the player is.

For Example

QB-David Carr(3500 Yards 23 TD's)
RB-Reggie Bush/Domanick Davis(Both 800 yards 5 touchdowns,but rush well in big situations!)
FB-Jamel Cook?- I dont know who the fullback is gonna be?
WR1-Andre Johnson(1200 Yards 10 TDs |WR2 Eric Moulds(1000 7 TDs
Oline- Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Wand|25 Sacks

KR: Jerome Mathis 5 TD Returns!

5 td returns for mathis? id say 2 or 3

TexanBacker93
03-31-2006, 02:45 PM
I see...

Carr - 4,800 yards, 47 tds, 3 ints
Bush - 2,300 yards rushing, 24 tds, 800 yards receiving, 5 tds
Davis - 1,200 yards rushing, 12 tds, 400 yards receving, 2 tds
Johnson - 1,800 yards receiving, 17 tds
Moulds - 1,200 yards receiving, 8 tds
Walters - 802 yards receiving, 5 tds
Mathis - 750 yards receiving, 4 tds, 5 kicks returned for td
Putzier - 800 yards receiving, 6 tds


Hey, it happens on Madden all the time. This is the same right? :redtowel:

Sorry, this is still going to be a great offensive year for the Texans. I think they can do similar to what the Broncos do every year.

Ibar_Harry
03-31-2006, 02:53 PM
I think the one thing we can say for certain regarding this coming season is that there will no longer be 1 or 2 threats on the field at the same time. We will probably have 3 to 5 threats offensively on the field all of the time. This will create a lot of opportunities for the Texans. It will stretch the other teams defenses and someone should be open or a nice opening for a running back will exsist.

To compare this coming year to the previous seasons is probably an impossibility simply because we should be infinitely better. Will that happen is of course the major question? I believe this will be a breakout year for the Texans.

We have improved in all areas, but most importantly we have had a collosal change in coaching. I look for this to be a very effective coaching staff and I'm really anxious to see what they do with the O and D lines. I'm looking for a very surprising season.

el toro
03-31-2006, 02:59 PM
If the offense can put up points and chew up the clock I think the sky's the limit...soon. That means playoffs next season.

Johnny Utah
03-31-2006, 03:02 PM
Carr will be fantasy football's #1 sleeper pick this year.

Carr's stats in 2004 were

16 TD
14 INT
3531 Yards
61% Completion %


I think in 2006 Carr can do

24 TD
16 INT
3800 Yards
60% Completion %


Bush will have many big plays during his rookie season. I think he can go for

800 Rush Yards
4.9 YPC
600 Receiving Yards

ClintonPortis26
04-01-2006, 05:58 AM
Thats not that great of an offense dude lol... Now think about this...

Head Coach: Joe Gibbs

Quarterback: Mark Brunell/ 28 Touchdown Passes, 1 Rushing Touchdown, 14 Interceptions
Running Back: Clinton Portis/1,803 Yards, 16 Touchdowns
Fullback: Mike Sellers/112 Yards, 3 Touchdowns(he put 7 up last season)
Wide Reciever #1: Santana Moss/ 1,021 Yards, 8 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #2: Brandon Lloyd/ 809 Yards, 4 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #3: Antwaan Randle El/501 Yards 2 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #4: David Patten/ 437 Yards, 3 Touchdowns
H-Back: Chris Cooley/ 600 Yards, 8 Touchdowns
Tight End: Christian Fauria/ 51 Yards, 0 Touchdowns
Offensive Line: Jansen, Samuels, Dockery, Thomas, Rabach/ 16 Sacks

Offensive Coordinater: Al Saunders

Except one thing, thats not my dream offense. Thats actually gonna happen.

Johnny Utah
04-01-2006, 06:15 AM
Thats not that great of an offense dude lol... Now think about this...


I'm thinking Mark Brunell will be lucky to make it through a whole season without being put on the IR. Good luck with Todd Colllins. lol

Kaiser Toro
04-01-2006, 07:28 AM
Carr - 3,200 yards, 24 TD's, 18 int

TexanExile
04-01-2006, 08:21 AM
Thats not that great of an offense dude lol... Now think about this...

Head Coach: Joe Gibbs

Quarterback: Mark Brunell/ 28 Touchdown Passes, 1 Rushing Touchdown, 14 Interceptions
...

Thats actually gonna happen.

:pigfly:

Brunell's thrown more than 20 TD passes exactly once in his, long, long, long, career--last year. And the East will be better competition than they were last year. On the other hand, your INT number's probably right. He should average 2-3 per game, over the number games he'll finish in '06.

ClintonPortis26
04-01-2006, 09:36 AM
:pigfly:

Brunell's thrown more than 20 TD passes exactly once in his, long, long, long, career--last year. And the East will be better competition than they were last year. On the other hand, your INT number's probably right. He should average 2-3 per game, over the number games he'll finish in '06.


Im sure you didnt mean it this way but...thanks lol. I hope we can get Jason Campbell in there!!!:redtowel:

ClintonPortis26
04-01-2006, 09:37 AM
I'm thinking Mark Brunell will be lucky to make it through a whole season without being put on the IR. Good luck with Todd Colllins. lol


Why? The only reason he sucked at the end of last year was becuase Micheal Strahan or sombody hit him under his knees and re-injured the injury that ****ed him over in 2004... Before that he had like 5 interceptions and like 17 touchdowns...Not to mention was juking the crap outta linebackers...

run-david-run
04-01-2006, 09:52 AM
DC put up 3500 yards while getting sacked 49 times with only AJ at wide receiver, Mark Brunner with some Billy Miller at TE and Dom Capers running the show. Factor in a more expericanced AJ, a great offenseive coach, a better (I hope) O-line, a healthy stable (well, at least 2) of versatille running backs (counting Reggie), and one of the best receivers to ever play the game, even if he is 33, and I would be very surpirsed to see him go for anything less then 3800 yards with at least 28 TD's.

I would also look for AJ to have something like 85 for 1300 with about 8 TD's, Moulds to go for about 68 for 1000 with 6 TD's and DD/Reggie to combine for about 2100 rushing yards, 2800 total yards with about 20 TD's. Lofty goals, but its the Texan FO's fault, this offseason probably has me a little delusional!

run-david-run
04-01-2006, 09:54 AM
Carr - 3,200 yards, 24 TD's, 18 int
Carr has never thrown 18 picks in his career, what do you think is going to make him start now, seeing as the offense is getting so much better?

Bobo
04-01-2006, 10:14 AM
Sage Rosenfelds -- 4,500 yards passing, 70.3% completion rate, 31 TDs, 7 INTs, 121.6 rating: Jonathan Wells, 250 attempts, 1348 yards, 16 TDs. After all, if we're going to have a fantasy where basically the same offensive line as last year will give up only 25 sacks, we might as well take that dream all the way.

Bobo
04-01-2006, 10:16 AM
Carr has never thrown 18 picks in his career, what do you think is going to make him start now, seeing as the offense is getting so much better?

And where do you see this offense "getting much better?" They have basically the same offensive line that acted like a sieve since the team's inception.

Bobo
04-01-2006, 10:19 AM
DC put up 3500 yards while getting sacked 49 times with only AJ at wide receiver, Mark Brunner with some Billy Miller at TE and Dom Capers running the show. Factor in a more expericanced AJ, a great offenseive coach, a better (I hope) O-line, a healthy stable (well, at least 2) of versatille running backs (counting Reggie), and one of the best receivers to ever play the game, even if he is 33, and I would be very surpirsed to see him go for anything less then 3800 yards with at least 28 TD's.

I would also look for AJ to have something like 85 for 1300 with about 8 TD's, Moulds to go for about 68 for 1000 with 6 TD's and DD/Reggie to combine for about 2100 rushing yards, 2800 total yards with about 20 TD's. Lofty goals, but its the Texan FO's fault, this offseason probably has me a little delusional!

So you expect this kind of stuff coming from a team that finished 2-14 last year and took on a guy who has the same experience as and NFL head coach that I have? And who is this guy on the Texans who is "one of the best receivers to have ever played the game?" I do believe Marvin Harrison is on the Colts.

Johnny Utah
04-01-2006, 11:02 AM
And where do you see this offense "getting much better?" They have basically the same offensive line that acted like a sieve since the team's inception.

They added one of the better Centers in the league in Flannagan, and will use some draft picks to bring in additional lineman. Throw in the fact that Sherman will be coaching the line and I expect to see great improvement.

run-david-run
04-01-2006, 11:25 AM
So you expect this kind of stuff coming from a team that finished 2-14 last year and took on a guy who has the same experience as and NFL head coach that I have? And who is this guy on the Texans who is "one of the best receivers to have ever played the game?" I do believe Marvin Harrison is on the Colts.
Does anyone doubt that Moulds' career can be qualified as "great", 9000 yards and counting, mostly against double coverage? Anyway, we've added another #1 receiver, meaning we will have a Pro-Bowl WR playing number two, not even the Colts pulled that one off. Kubes has won how many SuperBowls? I dont care how many years he has had as an NFL head coach, Saban had zero years of NFL head coaching (college is not even close to the same) and he took his team from 2nd worst record to 9-7 in one year. Also, the O-line of 05 and 04 are not the same. While we have not lost any major players from 04, the injuries we sustained further crippled our ability to protect Carr. You cant plan for injuries, should we have some good karma, which we earned last year, we will have the best O-line we have ever had, including the first ever Pro-Bowl calibur player on our line (Flanagan), a highhly qualified, infact highly overqualified O-line coach, another team first, and two Pro-Bowler's at the wide receiver positon. Factor in DD/Reggie Bush and an actual receiving TE and watch the fireworks.:yahoo:

the wonger need food
04-01-2006, 11:37 AM
Thats not that great of an offense dude lol... Now think about this...

Head Coach: Joe Gibbs

Quarterback: Mark Brunell/ 28 Touchdown Passes, 1 Rushing Touchdown, 14 Interceptions
Running Back: Clinton Portis/1,803 Yards, 16 Touchdowns
Fullback: Mike Sellers/112 Yards, 3 Touchdowns(he put 7 up last season)
Wide Reciever #1: Santana Moss/ 1,021 Yards, 8 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #2: Brandon Lloyd/ 809 Yards, 4 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #3: Antwaan Randle El/501 Yards 2 Touchdowns
Wide Reciever #4: David Patten/ 437 Yards, 3 Touchdowns
H-Back: Chris Cooley/ 600 Yards, 8 Touchdowns
Tight End: Christian Fauria/ 51 Yards, 0 Touchdowns
Offensive Line: Jansen, Samuels, Dockery, Thomas, Rabach/ 16 Sacks

Offensive Coordinater: Al Saunders

Except one thing, thats not my dream offense. Thats actually gonna happen.

You're still trolling around here? The Redskins will not make the playoffs this year. And if Jason Campbell is the QB they'll be lucky to win 5 games.

Wordem
04-01-2006, 12:18 PM
As long as David Carr is the quarterback, this team and franchise are going nowhere. He's as big a bust as Tim Couch.

Kaiser Toro
04-01-2006, 12:43 PM
Carr has never thrown 18 picks in his career, what do you think is going to make him start now, seeing as the offense is getting so much better?

Due to him being under pressure to perform and having time this year to go through reads will create more opportunity for picks. Moreover, if many of you are right he will have mostly all new targets on the offense which will create growing pains for timing.

He has averaged 13+ ints a year. More opportunity equals more risk. I surprised you called me out on the ints due to his best year TD's being 16.

run-david-run
04-01-2006, 02:07 PM
Due to him being under pressure to perform and having time this year to go through reads will create more opportunity for picks. Moreover, if many of you are right he will have mostly all new targets on the offense which will create growing pains for timing.

He has averaged 13+ ints a year. More opportunity equals more risk. I surprised you called me out on the ints due to his best year TD's being 16.
Great, he has only thrown 16 TD's on a running team with a crappy O-line..blah balh blah, we all know the story. Anyway, the last two seasons, he has taken care of the ball. Despite the fact he has thrown 16 or fewer TD's, he has thrown fewer picks. Obviously adding some more targets will lead to more risk, but Carr has not struck me as someone who will make to many stupid throws, ala Jake PLummer (except for last year) and Brett Favre (esspecailly last year). I think you can look for some Drew Brees/Jake PLummer numbers from Carr this year, if we get Moulds and Reggie, next year shows all the promise of being even better. By the way, both Plummer and Brees are Pro-Bowlers.

Kaiser Toro
04-01-2006, 02:37 PM
Great, he has only thrown 16 TD's on a running team with a crappy O-line..blah balh blah, we all know the story. Anyway, the last two seasons, he has taken care of the ball. Despite the fact he has thrown 16 or fewer TD's, he has thrown fewer picks. Obviously adding some more targets will lead to more risk, but Carr has not struck me as someone who will make to many stupid throws, ala Jake PLummer (except for last year) and Brett Favre (esspecailly last year). I think you can look for some Drew Brees/Jake PLummer numbers from Carr this year, if we get Moulds and Reggie, next year shows all the promise of being even better. By the way, both Plummer and Brees are Pro-Bowlers.

I feel that we are not on the same page. I said 18 int's, you called me out on it when he has averaged 13 per year. His best season for TD's is 16 with an average of 12 per year, yet I predicted 24. However, you call me out on the ints when historicals show that I am being much more aggressive on my call for TD's.

Interesting how the merits get thrown out the door and emotion reigns in a Carr Q&A.

edo783
04-01-2006, 03:03 PM
DC put up 3500 yards while getting sacked 49 times with only AJ at wide receiver, Mark Brunner with some Billy Miller at TE and Dom Capers running the show. Factor in a more expericanced AJ, a great offenseive coach, a better (I hope) O-line, a healthy stable (well, at least 2) of versatille running backs (counting Reggie), and one of the best receivers to ever play the game, even if he is 33, and I would be very surpirsed to see him go for anything less then 3800 yards with at least 28 TD's.

I would also look for AJ to have something like 85 for 1300 with about 8 TD's, Moulds to go for about 68 for 1000 with 6 TD's and DD/Reggie to combine for about 2100 rushing yards, 2800 total yards with about 20 TD's. Lofty goals, but its the Texan FO's fault, this offseason probably has me a little delusional!

If I am reading this right, your expecting a BOATLOAD of passing TDs from the secondary recievers other that AJ & Moulds.

AJ with 8 + Moulds with 6 = 14 To have the others get 14 seems a bit high. Reggie might catch 3-4 (probably be more of long range run in type rather than redzone) Putz probably 3-4 of the redzone type. Walters maybe 1-2 of the redzone type and Mathis maybe 1 of the longer run in type and then 3 from "Others".

Is that about how you saw it breaking down? Like I said, seems a bit stong on the seconday types. I would expect some where around 8-10 from them which would give about 20-24 for a passing TD total, which,i f the O-line actually protects, should be a fairly realistic hope. Still depends a bit on scheme with how much we really relie on the run vs. pass though.

HeartofHouston
04-01-2006, 03:30 PM
Carr = 3,600 25Tds | 11 Ints
Bush = 1,200 Yards | Davis = 870 Yards
Johnson = 1,100 Yards | Moulds = 940 yards | Putzier = 490 Yards

Offensive Line
Justice - McKinney - Flanagan - Setterstrom - Wade
32 Sacks

edo783
04-01-2006, 05:18 PM
Carr = 3,600 25Tds | 11 Ints
Bush = 1,200 Yards | Davis = 870 Yards
Johnson = 1,100 Yards | Moulds = 940 yards | Putzier = 490 Yards

Offensive Line
Justice - McKinney - Flanagan - Setterstrom - Wade
32 Sacks

Looks pretty realistic. By the way, what happend to Pitts and who is Setterstrom?

rmartin65
04-01-2006, 07:22 PM
Mark Setterstrom, OG Minnesota Golden Gophers.

ClintonPortis26
04-02-2006, 05:24 PM
You're still trolling around here? The Redskins will not make the playoffs this year. And if Jason Campbell is the QB they'll be lucky to win 5 games.


Like you got room to talk?Lmao!


Ive been keeping my mouth shut. I laugh each time I see "The Texans will go 9-7 and make the playoffs". Let alone seeing you guys think 9-7 will get you in the playoffs with Jacksonville and Indianapolis in your division.

Its takes more than players to win. It takes Heart, Team Chemistry, Time, and Effort.

All those 4 things are question marks as of now.

TexansLucky13
04-02-2006, 05:38 PM
Like you got room to talk?Lmao!


Ive been keeping my mouth shut. I laugh each time I see "The Texans will go 9-7 and make the playoffs". Let alone seeing you guys think 9-7 will get you in the playoffs with Jacksonville and Indianapolis in your division.

Its takes more than players to win. It takes Heart, Team Chemistry, Time, and Effort.

All those 4 things are question marks as of now.

We have more heart and fanbase than any other team in the league. Face it.

Team Chemistry... you do have a point. But maybe we can pull together next year under the huge fanbase we have?

Time.... thats the thing, isnt it? Will it be this season, or next? We dont know. But we know its soon.

Effort. Last year we lacked it. This year there is so much, even before the draft! Texans fans may be split by VY and RB, but we will unite once again after the pick is chosen. Our coaching staff has put a lot of thought and effort into our new lineup.

We will be in the playoffs next year? I dont know. But expect no less than a 6-10 record, and one hell of a show.

ClintonPortis26
04-02-2006, 07:32 PM
We have more heart and fanbase than any other team in the league. Face it.

Team Chemistry... you do have a point. But maybe we can pull together next year under the huge fanbase we have?

Time.... thats the thing, isnt it? Will it be this season, or next? We dont know. But we know its soon.

Effort. Last year we lacked it. This year there is so much, even before the draft! Texans fans may be split by VY and RB, but we will unite once again after the pick is chosen. Our coaching staff has put a lot of thought and effort into our new lineup.

We will be in the playoffs next year? I dont know. But expect no less than a 6-10 record, and one hell of a show.

Half your fanbase are cowboy fans. I'll admit your team does play with heart though. Effort, Kubaik with get some guys trying....Time, time is time, Its gonna take more than 2 games to adjust to Kubiak, new staff, new teammates ect...

Wolf
04-02-2006, 08:42 PM
Imagine This Offense thread is when someone puts their realisticly dream offense, also give stats to how good the player is.

For Example

QB-David Carr(3500 Yards 23 TD's)
RB-Reggie Bush/Domanick Davis(Both 800 yards 5 touchdowns,but rush well in big situations!)
FB-Jamel Cook?- I dont know who the fullback is gonna be?
WR1-Andre Johnson(1200 Yards 10 TDs |WR2 Eric Moulds(1000 7 TDs
Oline- Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Weigert-Wand|25 Sacks

KR: Jerome Mathis 5 TD Returns!

I am hoping for someone to put an good offer for Bush and we trade down and gain some picks for next year (make a run for Peterson).

with that said..
I'd like to see us draft Vernon Davis and he become what Shannon Sharpe was for the Broncos

and if we take Bush I am ok with that also.

Big78
04-02-2006, 08:59 PM
Vernon Davis is going to be amazing but we cant waste our #1 pick on a tight end, we have too many other holes to fill. As for peterson, he is also going to be good but i am worried he is a little injury prone but thats just me. I wouldnt pass up a player like Bush just on the hope of being in the position to take peterson next year...or almost any other player for that matter. :twocents:

Wolf
04-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Vernon Davis is going to be amazing but we cant waste our #1 pick on a tight end, we have too many other holes to fill. As for peterson, he is also going to be good but i am worried he is a little injury prone but thats just me. I wouldnt pass up a player like Bush just on the hope of being in the position to take peterson next year...or almost any other player for that matter. :twocents:

very true.. I meant to put if we traded down then get Davis but didn't put my thoughts down correctly :brickwall