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Grid
03-30-2006, 06:11 PM
ok im done with 610 for today :).. I got about 5 minutes of Astro's talk.. and about 10 minutes of some lady singing about how to use the restroom, clean your bathtub, brush your teeth..etc..etc..

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 06:11 PM
Either I have bad luck or 610am has gone WAY downhill since I left Houston.

ESPN 790 isn't bad....

http://espn790.com/cc-common/streaming_new/index.html

jacquescas
03-30-2006, 06:11 PM
4 years 12 million with a 5 million bonus...

its either gonna be a 4th rounder or a 5th and a 7th.

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 06:12 PM
GRID, I heard the same crap also.... too many damn commercials.

Texans Pride
03-30-2006, 06:12 PM
NFL Total Access just regurgitated everything that's been said here.....That the station in Philly is reporting, but no word from the Texans or the Bills that an agreement has been reached.

Kaiser Toro
03-30-2006, 06:13 PM
Don't forget to turn your clocks forward this weekend.

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 06:15 PM
Don't forget to turn your clocks forward this weekend.

It's off subject but thanks for the reminder :)

GLM
03-30-2006, 06:19 PM
ESPN 790 isn't bad....

http://espn790.com/cc-common/streaming_new/index.html

Wow sports talk! Thanks :D

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 06:22 PM
I'm reading on the Eagles MSG Board (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/), one of the guys said this:

Derrick Gunn on CSN just said that the Eagles told him talks with Moulds never got past the preliminary stages and if he's going to sign with anyone it will be the Texans.

That's a good sign! :yahoo: :redtowel:

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 06:24 PM
On 790, did you hear that jackass caller call Charlie Pallilo Rich Lord from 610?!?

:homer: lol: :club:

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 06:26 PM
I don't know what to believe anymore. This thread has got me to realize that you can't believe anything until it's official.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 06:31 PM
I don't know what to believe anymore. This thread has got me to realize that you can't believe anything until it's official.


I don't believe you.

Mike Kerns
03-30-2006, 06:34 PM
This is rather exhausting. . .

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 06:37 PM
This is rather exhausting. . .

Is there any sort of auto refresh feature for this board...

HJam72
03-30-2006, 06:39 PM
Is there any sort of auto refresh feature for this board...

Yeah, that would be good for the servers. :ok:

DRIFTAWAY
03-30-2006, 06:40 PM
this is almost as bad as me waiting around for the deadline during the beltran fiasco

Nawzer
03-30-2006, 06:40 PM
This is like the T-Mac deal all over again...endless waiting but we got the deal done.

HJam72
03-30-2006, 06:41 PM
790: Verbal agreement between Texans and Moulds. Deal will (likely) be finalized Monday. Are we gonna sit here hitting "Reload current page" that long? :)

BrianC
03-30-2006, 06:43 PM
790: Verbal agreement between Texans and Moulds. Deal will (likely) be finalized Monday. Are we gonna sit here hitting "Reload current page" that long? :)


dear lord lets hope not

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 06:46 PM
Almost 35000 views. :thumbup

Wolf
03-30-2006, 06:48 PM
Is there any sort of auto refresh feature for this board...


ahhh senior guapo :lol: love your pic!

Kaiser Toro
03-30-2006, 06:51 PM
Y'all can go home. We will leave the light on for you folks. The board will still be up and running unless we get a flood of Eagle fans. If that happens it could get ugly in here. :)

Errant Hothy
03-30-2006, 06:59 PM
This is now the most viewed thread in teh MBs history, yet it is still not the most posted.

If teh Moulds ordeal drags out till Monday it'll break all records.

Overalls
03-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Bob Allen on channel 13 just said that its all but a done deal and they are just working with Buffalo on the compensation

HJam72
03-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Bob Allen on channel 13 just said that its all but a done deal and they are just working with Buffalo on the compensation

Well, at least I got about 60 or so people to leave so my pages would load faster. :yahoo:

AJExplosion80
03-30-2006, 07:07 PM
I sure hope this thing goes through because if not we all did this for no reason. I have been on this thing all day. :brickwall

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 07:08 PM
790: Verbal agreement between Texans and Moulds. Deal will (likely) be finalized Monday. Are we gonna sit here hitting "Reload current page" that long? :)

Hopefully that means that Moulds will be officially be announced during a press conference that he is a Houston Texan :redtowel:

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 07:11 PM
http://www.13wham.com/sports/local/story.aspx?content_id=2560805F-19CF-44AC-A921-163A13896494
Moulds Dealing With Texans
Last Update: 3/30/2006 7:31:25 PM

Houston, TX (3/30/06) Eric Moulds asked to be traded out of Buffalo and the 10-Year Bills veteran may just get his wish. Houston Texans General Manager Charley Casserly told KTRK television in Houston that a verbal agreement has been reached with Moulds, however, Casserly stressed that there are still "many dots to be connected."
Moulds was expected to get $7.1 million if he stayed in Buffalo this season. Sources tell 13WHAM News that it would be a multi-year deal for Moulds to join the Texans and that Buffalo would receive Houston's 4th or 5th round pick in this April's draft. Those picks would work out to be the 97th or 129th overall.
When contacted by 13WHAM News, Bills Vice President of Communications, Scott Berchtold, said the team had no comment.

I think it's a good sign that Scott had no comment :yahoo:

DRIFTAWAY
03-30-2006, 07:17 PM
this better all be worth it

Bubbajwp
03-30-2006, 07:18 PM
This is now the most viewed thread in teh MBs history, yet it is still not the most posted.

If teh Moulds ordeal drags out till Monday it'll break all records.
When dallas was trying to sign TO. The cowboys message board had to make a new forum just for TO.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 07:23 PM
If they are haggling between us giving our 4th or 5th rounder, maybe we should give them our 5th (#134) and then to sweeten it up just a touch we could swap 4ths with them (our #98 for their #105).
I would rather give just the 5th of course, but this plan keeps us near the top of round 4 and gives them more than just a 5.

Texans Pride
03-30-2006, 07:26 PM
Well the fact that Cass has spoken publicly about it is a good sign, but anything can still happen until his name is on a contract.

texan279
03-30-2006, 07:26 PM
I say just give the 4th, that means Philly would have to give at least a 3rd round pick to beat our deal since we have the 1st pick of each round which they probably wouldn't do.

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 07:28 PM
I say just give the 4th, that means Philly would have to give at least a 3rd round pick to beat our deal since we have the 1st pick of each round which they probably wouldn't do.

I agree. Just give them want they want.

Bronco Texan
03-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Serisously three years worth of Moulds is better than any fourth rounder this year. With Moulds we get closer to winning sooner.

wolf123
03-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Via 790: Moulds has verbally agreed to a 4 year, $12 million deal with a $4-5 million signing bonus. The deal is contengant on a physical. Compensation still unknown.

I saw this on another site and thought I'd give yall some new info

YoungTexanFan
03-30-2006, 07:33 PM
I say just give the 4th, that means Philly would have to give at least a 3rd round pick to beat our deal since we have the 1st pick of each round which they probably wouldn't do.

We not signing him to an offer sheet. We are trading for him. He will be released if he is not traded. We should give them at 5th at the earliest. Philly offered a 6th.

aj.
03-30-2006, 07:34 PM
I posted somewhere else that Houston has already seen one 35 year old receiver log 1000 yards, so there shouldn't be any reason why we should be apprehensive about this 33 year old, considering his history.

(not to mention Rod Smith who, I'm sure has been brought up a million times in this debate)

wolf123
03-30-2006, 07:35 PM
Also, why not offer our 5th and 6th round picks this year? They're practically a 4th and 5th right? I agree that by offering our 4th round pick the Eagles would have to give up a 3rd and I don;t see them doing it; but I would also love to keep our 4th (practically a 3rd). JMO.

Mario Williams
03-30-2006, 07:35 PM
I posted somewhere else that Houston has already seen one 35 year old receiver log 1000 yards, so there shouldn't be any reason why we should be apprehensive about this 33 year old, considering his history.

(not to mention Rod Smith who, I'm sure has been brought up a million times in this debate)

Who?

Texans_Chick
03-30-2006, 07:36 PM
This is what my friend who is a Bills fan said to me about EM coming here:

I think he has a lot of catches left in him. I am not completely happy over the prospect of losing him, shall we say. He hada lot more catches in the second half of the season, when Holcomb was the QB. J.P. Losman's favorite target was Lee Evans.

7M a year is a little steep, though.. He would not redo his contract, and he is getting a little pouty over not getting a champeenship ring, which is not going to happen immediately with the Texans either...but it is closer to his Mississippi home. He was a "good soldier" type until this past season, when he was becoming a problem..suspended one game for "detrimental conduct", which was never explained. I thought maybe he'd be happy since head coach Mike Mullarkey was canned, but no...he got po'd over the very idea of restructuring his contract, yet appears to be willing to take a pay cut to sign with a team with no immediate Super Bowl hopes....although at this rate, the Texans will get there before the Bills do.

Hard times for Bills fans. I have yet to see any brilliant offseason moves. If we don't draft smart at the end of the month, we may draft 1st next year.

texan279
03-30-2006, 07:37 PM
We not signing him to an offer sheet. We are trading for him. He will be released if he is not traded. We should give them at 5th at the earliest. Philly offered a 6th.

Either we give the 4th round pick and get Moulds or if the Bills don't want the 5th they release him and let him hit free agency and we kiss him goodbye and cross our fingers and hope to find a WR in the draft that can come in and be our #2...

aj.
03-30-2006, 07:39 PM
Who?

Drew Hill 1991

90 receptions 1100 yards 35 years old

probably when you were in elementary school but relevant nonetheless...

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 07:40 PM
Either we give the 4th round pick and get Moulds or if the Bills don't want the 5th they release him and let him hit free agency and we kiss him goodbye and cross our fingers and hope to find a WR in the draft that can come in and be our #2...

Why would the Bills rather release him than get a 5th round pick?

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 07:42 PM
Drew Hill 1991

90 receptions 1100 yards 35 years old

probably when you were in elementary school but relevant nonetheless...
The Texans were started in 2002. :sarcasm

Moulds wants out of Buffalo, so the Bills don't have leverage.

aj.
03-30-2006, 07:44 PM
The Texans were started in 2002. :sarcasm
.

Notice I said, "Houston has already seen..." Some people may not care but we did have the NFL here for 30 something years before the Texans.

texan279
03-30-2006, 07:44 PM
Why would the Bills rather release him than get a 5th round pick?

I don't know, but players are released all the time for lots of reasons...

wolf123
03-30-2006, 07:46 PM
but usually not when the releasing team could get some form of compensation

dat_boy_yec
03-30-2006, 07:46 PM
Ok, so the reports say he got a 4 yr. deal worth 12 mill. With a 4-5 mill. signing bonus. My question would be is that signing bonus included in the 12 mil. ? If it is than CC is a genious. Well I guess I should question the credibility of this, but at this point I'm to tired to do so.

wolf123
03-30-2006, 07:47 PM
I must say that I am all for trading a 5th and swapping 4th's if they're up for that

wolf123
03-30-2006, 07:49 PM
I believe that the signing bonus is included in the $12 million

aj.
03-30-2006, 07:49 PM
If that's really the terms, that's a very good deal.

Ferens is the head of contract negotiations btw.

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 07:50 PM
Update from KFFL:

Bills | Moulds still with the Bills
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:32:34 -0800

WGR550.com reports agent Harry Henderson said reports of Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds reaching a contract agreement with the Houston Texans are false. WGR also talked with the Bills, and Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of a trade between the Bills and Texans are also false.

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 07:50 PM
kffl.com
Bills | Moulds still with the Bills
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:32:34 -0800

WGR550.com reports agent Harry Henderson said reports of Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds reaching a contract agreement with the Houston Texans are false. WGR also talked with the Bills, and Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of a trade between the Bills and Texans are also false.

Maybe they're just relaying old news, because the article I just posted said Scott had no comment...?

Texizgreat
03-30-2006, 07:55 PM
kffl.com


Maybe they're just relaying old news, because the article I just posted said Scott had no comment...?


they are just playing games.........

Dime
03-30-2006, 07:55 PM
Instead of offering a 4th.. how about offering P-Buc.. grin..

ThaShark316
03-30-2006, 07:55 PM
kffl.com


Maybe they're just relaying old news, because the article I just posted said Scott had no comment...?

Exactly....

They're toying with us...just give it time you guys...Moulds will be a Texan, they just don't wanna say TOO much until it's complete.

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 07:58 PM
Notice I said, "Houston has already seen..." Some people may not care but we did have the NFL here for 30 something years before the Texans.
And they are now one of our most hated rivals. We had football way before the Oilers.

ThaShark316
03-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Eagles | Team not close on deal with Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:44:11 -0800

Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are not close to a deal for Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds, according to a league source. ESPN.com earlier reported that ""the Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead and both teams are expecting quick decisions." The source said the Eagles have not even had any trade discussions with the Bills for Moulds. Eagles head coach Andy Reid admitted interest in Moulds at the NFL owners meetings, saying it was an issue the team was in the process of weighing.

from kffl.com

texan279
03-30-2006, 07:59 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

John Clayton of ESPN.com reports that the Buffalo Bills are close to trading Eric Moulds to the Texans or the Eagles. WIP Radio in Philly has reported that Moulds and the Texans have struck a deal as to his contract, which means that the only impediment is an agreement between the Bills and Texans as to the terms of the trade.

Moulds reportedly wants a three-year deal worth $5 million a season, and the Bills reportedly want a fourth-round pick. Both, in our view, are bargains -- especially since the draft does not contain an excessive amount of quality pass-catchers this year.

The Bills have asked Moulds on multiple occasions to take a pay cut, and he has declined. More recently, the team permitted Moulds to set up a trade.

Texans_Chick
03-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Update from KFFL:

Bills | Moulds still with the Bills
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:32:34 -0800

WGR550.com reports agent Harry Henderson said reports of Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds reaching a contract agreement with the Houston Texans are false. WGR also talked with the Bills, and Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of a trade between the Bills and Texans are also false.

Maybe the thread title should be changed?

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 08:00 PM
I knew the Eagles weren't close :yahoo: Being a Texan fan right now sure has it's highs and lows lol:

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 08:03 PM
I knew the Eagles weren't close :yahoo: Being a Texan fan right now sure has it's highs and lows :lol:

Umm, the Eagles are still in it. There are so many conflicting stories....

I hope this drama ends.

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 08:05 PM
Umm, the Eagles are still in it. There are so many conflicting stories....

I hope this drama ends.

That article said they weren't even close. If the Patriots weren't moving fast enough, why would the Eagles be. They probably haven't even started negotiations.

texan279
03-30-2006, 08:05 PM
Umm, the Eagles are still in it. There are so many conflicting stories....

I hope this drama ends.

Eagles | Team not close on deal with Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:44:11 -0800

Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are not close to a deal for Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds, according to a league source. ESPN.com earlier reported that ""the Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead and both teams are expecting quick decisions." The source said the Eagles have not even had any trade discussions with the Bills for Moulds. Eagles head coach Andy Reid admitted interest in Moulds at the NFL owners meetings, saying it was an issue the team was in the process of weighing.

from kffl.com

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 08:07 PM
kffl and John Clayton are both very, very reliable sources. I just hope we can have a deal done tonight.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 08:20 PM
Just heard Chris Landry on Fox Sport Radio. Nothing really new. Texans have the parameters of a contract drawn up that Moulds would agree to. Draft compensation to the Bills is the only issue. The Eagles have an offer in, but he doesn't think it matches the Texans. That could change.

My take on it...

<warning pure speculation> I think the Eagles are fishing to see if they can lowball Moulds because of his expressed interest in going to Philly. Let's call it the "Friend of McNabb" discount. Only Moulds knows how much less he will take to play in Philly.

I don't think the Eagles start seriously talking compensation with the Bills until they have an acceptable offer for Moulds. If the Texans and Eagles both come up with contracts that satisfy E-Mo (sorry) then Buffalo would be able to pick the deal that gave them the most compensation.

Reminds me a little of the Abraham/Jets/Falcons/Seattle fiasco. Seattle had the better draft package, but Abraham wanted the Falcons. The Falcons eventually ponied up a #1.

I think in this one, the Texans hold most of the cards. More $$$ (for now) and a higher potential draft package. (Reports of a 6th rounder from the Eagles are the highest I have heard) I don't think the Eagles will outbid the Texans in either dollars or draft choices. The only wildcard is how much of discount Moulds would take for Philly.

I like our chances.

DRAMA
03-30-2006, 08:23 PM
http://www.thrillproductions.com/moulds2007.jpg

.....foreshadowing......


.....touchdown......


.....playoffs......


..ok. Touchdown then.......

thunderkyss
03-30-2006, 08:24 PM
So we're going to be signing Moulds for less than what Givens signed for??

I don't understand.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 08:27 PM
So we're going to be signing Moulds for less than what Givens signed for??

I don't understand.


Moulds is 7 years old than givens.

Ibar_Harry
03-30-2006, 08:28 PM
Just heard Chris Landry on Fox Sport Radio. Nothing really new. Texans have the parameters of a contract drawn up that Moulds would agree to. Draft compensation to the Bills is the only issue. The Eagles have an offer in, but he doesn't think it matches the Texans. That could change.

My take on it...

<warning pure speculation> I think the Eagles are fishing to see if they can lowball Moulds because of his expressed interest in going to Philly. Let's call it the "Friend of McNabb" discount. Only Moulds knows how much less he will take to play in Philly.

I don't think the Eagles start seriously talking compensation with the Bills until they have an acceptable offer for Moulds. If the Texans and Eagles both come up with contracts that satisfy E-Mo (sorry) then Buffalo would be able to pick the deal that gave them the most compensation.

Reminds me a little of the Abraham/Jets/Falcons/Seattle fiasco. Seattle had the better draft package, but Abraham wanted the Falcons. The Falcons eventually ponied up a #1.

I think in this one, the Texans hold most of the cards. More $$$ (for now) and a higher potential draft package. (Reports of a 6th rounder from the Eagles are the highest I have heard) I don't think the Eagles will outbid the Texans in either dollars or draft choices. The only wildcard is how much of discount Moulds would take for Philly.

I like our chances.

Isn't the other fly in the ointment Buffalo. Couldn't they just pay him what he was suppose to get and be done with it.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 08:36 PM
Isn't the other fly in the ointment Buffalo. Couldn't they just pay him what he was suppose to get and be done with it.

Yeah, I suppose. But I really don't think they will.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9326894

"Obviously, we would much rather have Eric released. But if we can work out a trade, we will. But if not, we're back to square one and Eric won't play for the Bills. He doesn't want to play for them, and he will not play for them."

"Moulds, a 10-year veteran and the Bills' senior player, has two years left on his contract, but was scheduled to count about $10.8 million against the salary cap next year. The Bills deem that figure too expensive but have failed in their bid to have the receiver restructure his contract.

Levy also maintained the team's interest in keeping Moulds, but only if he agrees to a pay cut.

"I still think he has playing ability," Levy said. "But I don't think we can fill all of our other needs with the type of salary cap hit we have to take with him."

Makes me think we could get this done for a 5th. He's getting cut if there is no trade.

Mr Shush
03-30-2006, 08:41 PM
The problem is that if he hits the free agent market, the fact that we are probably willing to give up more in a trade than Philly becomes irrelevant. I suspect that if he does get cut, Moulds will likely become an Eagle. I also think he's unlikely to get cut (not that the Bills wouldn't cut him if it got that far, but a trade will happen before it does).

thunderkyss
03-30-2006, 08:49 PM
Moulds is 7 years old than givens.


Eric Moulds: 4 year $12mil....... plus a $5mill bonus would be $4.25 mil......

Glenn: 5 years, $20 million..........

Givens: 5 years, $24mil...... $4.8 million.........

I don't see Moulds accepting a deal worth $12 million total...... no way, not when he's got $7.1mil due soon.

el toro
03-30-2006, 08:52 PM
Um, according to the following, Casserly stated that an agreement has been reached:

Moulds Dealing With Texans

Last Update: 3/30/2006 7:31:25 PM

Houston, TX (3/30/06) Eric Moulds asked to be traded out of Buffalo and the 10-Year Bills veteran may just get his wish. Houston Texans General Manager Charley Casserly told KTRK television in Houston that a verbal agreement has been reached with Moulds, however, Casserly stressed that there are still "many dots to be connected."

Moulds was expected to get $7.1 million if he stayed in Buffalo this season. Sources tell 13WHAM News that it would be a multi-year deal for Moulds to join the Texans and that Buffalo would receive Houston's 4th or 5th round pick in this April's draft. Those picks would work out to be the 97th or 129th overall.

When contacted by 13WHAM News, Bills Vice President of Communications, Scott Berchtold, said the team had no comment.


http://www.13wham.com/sports/local/story.aspx?content_id=2560805F-19CF-44AC-A921-163A13896494

So that should be the final word on whether or not an agreement between Moulds and the Texans has been reached. Of course, a contract still needs to be signed and a trade needs to be negotiated with the Bills. But there is definitely an agreement of some sort, if only verbal.

Mr Shush
03-30-2006, 08:52 PM
He'll never see that $7.1m - the Bills would cut him rather than pay it, and no other team would trade for him unless they had a new deal in place.

Mr Shush
03-30-2006, 08:54 PM
And didn't LeCharles Bentley have a verbal agreement in place with the Eagles not so long ago?

Not worth the paper it's printed on . . .

O.G.
03-30-2006, 08:56 PM
Eagles | Team not close on deal with Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:44:11 -0800

Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are not close to a deal for Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds, according to a league source. ESPN.com earlier reported that ""the Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead and both teams are expecting quick decisions." The source said the Eagles have not even had any trade discussions with the Bills for Moulds. Eagles head coach Andy Reid admitted interest in Moulds at the NFL owners meetings, saying it was an issue the team was in the process of weighing.

from kffl.com

I will verify this but......790 am reports the deal is done - - but no details on picks.
I thought I heard 4 years, 12 mil. Sorry, I'm alittle late. Lol

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 08:57 PM
The problem is that if he hits the free agent market, the fact that we are probably willing to give up more in a trade than Philly becomes irrelevant. I suspect that if he does get cut, Moulds will likely become an Eagle. I also think he's unlikely to get cut (not that the Bills wouldn't cut him if it got that far, but a trade will happen before it does).

I agree that he will be traded.

The Texans already have an verbal agreement (alledgedly) with Moulds, so now it is up to compensation talks w/ the Bills or an 11th hour coup by the Iggles.

I think the whole "permission to seek a trade" used when a player refuses to re-do a deal. Give him a chance to see what he is worth on the open market, let him see what his market is. If no one bites, then he may be more willing to rework his deal. If there are takers, the team could work out draft compensation vs. getting nothing in return.

bugmenot
03-30-2006, 09:04 PM
What did you guys expect, this charley casserly were talking about

el toro
03-30-2006, 09:06 PM
What did you guys expect, this charley casserly were talking about

Charlie Casserly, who has presided over a rather successful offseason thusfar.

el toro
03-30-2006, 09:06 PM
And didn't LeCharles Bentley have a verbal agreement in place with the Eagles not so long ago?

Not worth the paper it's printed on . . .


It's more than not having an agreement at all. Casserly's on his way with the paperwork.

Mightymike
03-30-2006, 09:07 PM
http://www.wben.com/news/wgrstory.php?newsid=1484
sounds like we don't quite have him.

ThaShark316
03-30-2006, 09:12 PM
http://www.wben.com/news/wgrstory.php?newsid=1484
sounds like we don't quite have him.

This was said a page or two back...and i'll repeat what I said then...there toying with you...they're not gonna say what REALLY is going on.

Mightymike
03-30-2006, 09:15 PM
This was said a page or two back...and i'll repeat what I said then...there toying with you...they're not gonna say what REALLY is going on.

preciate it, i'm too lazy too look far back
my bad guys.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 09:15 PM
This was said a page or two back...and i'll repeat what I said then...there toying with you...they're not gonna say what REALLY is going on.


I agree with you on this point!!

outofhnd
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Maybe the Eagles sweetened the deal by offering him a spot in the Mama McNabb Campbells chunky soup commercials.

Yankee_In_TX
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Charlie Casserly, who has presided over a rather successful offseason thusfar.

Funny, I thought he was running around trying to become an NFL VP.

Big B Texan Fan
03-30-2006, 09:19 PM
And didn't LeCharles Bentley have a verbal agreement in place with the Eagles not so long ago?

Not worth the paper it's printed on . . .
Anyone remember how Orlando Pace played us??

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 09:23 PM
What did you guys expect, this charley casserly were talking about

Hey "Bugmenot", have the Cojones to actually register with the board before you start masquerading as a Texans fan.

Dunta_23
03-30-2006, 09:23 PM
Anyone remember how Orlando Pace played us??

The Pace trade was talking about 2 first round picks...and A LOT more $$$$$

run-david-run
03-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Anyone remember how Orlando Pace played us??
Congratulations, you are now the 100th person to bring that up!

Big B Texan Fan
03-30-2006, 09:25 PM
The Pace trade was talking about 2 first round picks...and A LOT more $$$$$
I know, it's apples and oranges......
but they're both fruit.

And either way you slice them, we didn't get Pace and the Moulds deal is far from done.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 09:25 PM
The Pace trade was talking about 2 first round picks...and A LOT more $$$$$

Not to mention that he resigned with the Rams. No way Moulds stays with the Bills.

outofhnd
03-30-2006, 09:27 PM
Man if this was New York City, The mafia would had Moulds's signature by now.

Big B Texan Fan
03-30-2006, 09:27 PM
Congratulations, you are now the 100th person to bring that up!
Well excuse the **** out of me for not reading thru over a 1000 posts before I post my own, by the time I'd get thru there would be 1000 more.

Doom Capers
03-30-2006, 09:29 PM
Well excuse the **** out of me for not reading thru over a 1000 posts before I post my own, by the time I'd get thru there would be 1000 more.


nice

Huge1
03-30-2006, 09:30 PM
Don't know if this has already been mentioned (I also am too lazy to look back in this thread), but I was just watching the Access NFL show on the NFL Network and Rich Eisen said that a Philly sports radio station (didn't get the call letters) is reporting that the Texans are in the process of signing Moulds. They are checking on the validity.

outofhnd
03-30-2006, 09:34 PM
You would think with all these stations checking on this story someone should be able to confirm its true or false.

el toro
03-30-2006, 09:35 PM
Funny, I thought he was running around trying to become an NFL VP.

He's managed to do well in spite of that, apparently.

the wonger need food
03-30-2006, 09:39 PM
I don't know it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but David Carr sucks.

Seriously though, this board is blowing up these days. I hope the Texans are planning to buy more servers to handle the load after drafting VY.

Mario Williams
03-30-2006, 09:41 PM
I don't know it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but David Carr sucks.

Seriously though, this board is blowing up these days. I hope the Texans are planning to buy more servers to handle the load after drafting VY.

You're lame.

We're drafting Bush, get over it.

Huge1
03-30-2006, 09:41 PM
I don't know it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but David Carr sucks.

Seriously though, this board is blowing up these days. I hope the Texans are planning to buy more servers to handle the load after drafting VY.

I want what this guy is smoking.

Doom Capers
03-30-2006, 09:43 PM
I don't know it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but David Carr sucks.

Seriously though, this board is blowing up these days. I hope the Texans are planning to buy more servers to handle the load after drafting VY.

1,000 posts. And I can't recall one of them being funny.

dat_boy_yec
03-30-2006, 09:43 PM
I want what this guy is smoking.

Yeah no kidding.

jgl35
03-30-2006, 09:44 PM
I'm reading on the Eagles MSG Board (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/), one of the guys said this:

Derrick Gunn on CSN just said that the Eagles told him talks with Moulds never got past the preliminary stages and if he's going to sign with anyone it will be the Texans.

That's a good sign! :yahoo: :redtowel:
This is the place in Philly to get the true news. Gunn and Comcast Sport Net know what they are talking about. If Gunn said this Moulds is a Texan.

the wonger need food
03-30-2006, 09:44 PM
My apologies to the mods... just wanted to get the Carr apologists to jump on and raise the count.

Doom Capers
03-30-2006, 09:45 PM
My apologies to the mods... just wanted to get the Carr apologists to jump on and raise the count.


Still not funny. LSU. Now that is funny.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 09:46 PM
The chronicle is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760740.html

March 30, 2006, 9:22PM
Texans close to finalizing deal for Moulds

By MEGAN MANFULL
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

After days of negotiations, the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills wide receiver Eric Moulds.

The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. The only part of the deal that has yet to be finalized is what the Texans will give the Bills as compensation. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.

Moulds will arrive in town on Monday to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite Andre Johnson.

"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," said Greg Johnson, Moulds' agent. "We'd be overstepping our bounds if we said it's just about dotting the i's and crossing the t's. It's not that close to being done, but we are very excited."

Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday. Casserly will be in Los Angeles over the weekend to watch running back Reggie Bush workout at Southern Cal's pro day on Sunday.

Moulds, a 10-year veteran, was the Texans' main priority during the past week. After being outbid by Tennessee for free agent receiver David Givens, the Texans turned their focus to Moulds, who had two years left on his contract with the Bills.

Since Moulds was set to count about $10.8 million against Buffalo's salary cap next season, the Bills wanted to restructure his contract. When their attempts failed, they granted Moulds permission to seek a trade.

Moulds, who is 6-2, 210 pounds, has spent his entire career in Buffalo. He was a first-round pick in the 1996 draft and has been a full-time starter since 1998. He has 675 catches for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns in 154 career games.

Moulds, a native of Lucedale, Miss., is excited about moving closer to his home.

"His mom has only attended about five games in Buffalo," Johnson said. "She says she can't wait to get in her RV and head down I-10 for the six-hour drive. She wants to tailgate with the fans. She says it will remind her of his college days (at Mississippi State).

"Hopefully this will work out for everyone. I can't say it definitely will, but we're very excited."

Moulds has been hampered by an offense that has struggled for most of the past five years. The passing game, which has ranked no better than 27th in the past three seasons, was part of the reason Moulds sought to leave Buffalo.

While the Texans ranked 30th out of 32 teams in passing last year, Johnson said Moulds is optimistic that won't be the case for long.

"He's excited about catching balls from David Carr, and he's especially excited because there won't just be one Pro Bowl receiver — there will be two," Johnson said. "He told me, 'How do I know there are two Pro Bowl receivers? Because Andre Johnson beat me out two years ago.'

"He's excited about the possible addition of Reggie Bush or even playing alongside Domanick Davis. They are both great backs. He doesn't see this as just a two-and-whatever team. He feels it's a new year for this team, and that he can really come in and truly help them win some games."

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 09:46 PM
My apologies to the mods... just wanted to get the Carr apologists to jump on and raise the count.
If that's the case...
Vince Young
Reggie Bush

That'll stir up a couple million posts.

Doom Capers
03-30-2006, 09:47 PM
The chronicle is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760740.html



NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE

michaelm
03-30-2006, 09:48 PM
I want what this guy is smoking.

Ace Hardware, isle 7... sold under the product name "Drâno".

Mario Williams
03-30-2006, 09:48 PM
My apologies to the mods... just wanted to get the Carr apologists to jump on and raise the count.

There are no apologists, only Vince Young nut huggers.

Carr Bombed
03-30-2006, 09:48 PM
I don't know it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but David Carr sucks.

Seriously though, this board is blowing up these days. I hope the Texans are planning to buy more servers to handle the load after drafting VY.

Well we made it well over a 1000 posts before someone tried to turn this into a Draft VY/Carr sucks thread.

Good Job folks, I knew it was going to happen eventually

the wonger need food
03-30-2006, 09:49 PM
1,000 posts. And I can't recall one of them being funny.

Coming from a dude that has a picture of Big Dave on his myspace site... I'm not surprised.

"I wish I knew how to quit ya Dave" - Doom Capers to Dave Carr

run-david-run
03-30-2006, 09:50 PM
Now, if only we could find out what the hell is acctually going on, we could all go to bed happy

Huge1
03-30-2006, 09:50 PM
My apologies to the mods... just wanted to get the Carr apologists to jump on and raise the count.

Has nothing to do with apologizing for Carr, Corky. Even though Young is an outstanding talent, he will not be a Texan.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 09:50 PM
Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760740.html

March 30, 2006, 9:22PM
Texans close to finalizing deal for Moulds

By MEGAN MANFULL
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

After days of negotiations, the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills wide receiver Eric Moulds.

The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. The only part of the deal that has yet to be finalized is what the Texans will give the Bills as compensation. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.

Moulds will arrive in town on Monday to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite Andre Johnson.

"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," said Greg Johnson, Moulds' agent. "We'd be overstepping our bounds if we said it's just about dotting the i's and crossing the t's. It's not that close to being done, but we are very excited."

Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday. Casserly will be in Los Angeles over the weekend to watch running back Reggie Bush workout at Southern Cal's pro day on Sunday.

Moulds, a 10-year veteran, was the Texans' main priority during the past week. After being outbid by Tennessee for free agent receiver David Givens, the Texans turned their focus to Moulds, who had two years left on his contract with the Bills.

Since Moulds was set to count about $10.8 million against Buffalo's salary cap next season, the Bills wanted to restructure his contract. When their attempts failed, they granted Moulds permission to seek a trade.

Moulds, who is 6-2, 210 pounds, has spent his entire career in Buffalo. He was a first-round pick in the 1996 draft and has been a full-time starter since 1998. He has 675 catches for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns in 154 career games.

Moulds, a native of Lucedale, Miss., is excited about moving closer to his home.

"His mom has only attended about five games in Buffalo," Johnson said. "She says she can't wait to get in her RV and head down I-10 for the six-hour drive. She wants to tailgate with the fans. She says it will remind her of his college days (at Mississippi State).

"Hopefully this will work out for everyone. I can't say it definitely will, but we're very excited."

Moulds has been hampered by an offense that has struggled for most of the past five years. The passing game, which has ranked no better than 27th in the past three seasons, was part of the reason Moulds sought to leave Buffalo.

While the Texans ranked 30th out of 32 teams in passing last year, Johnson said Moulds is optimistic that won't be the case for long.

"He's excited about catching balls from David Carr, and he's especially excited because there won't just be one Pro Bowl receiver — there will be two," Johnson said. "He told me, 'How do I know there are two Pro Bowl receivers? Because Andre Johnson beat me out two years ago.'

"He's excited about the possible addition of Reggie Bush or even playing alongside Domanick Davis. They are both great backs. He doesn't see this as just a two-and-whatever team. He feels it's a new year for this team, and that he can really come in and truly help them win some games."

Mario Williams
03-30-2006, 09:50 PM
"He's excited about the possible addition of Reggie Bush or even playing alongside Domanick Davis. They are both great backs. He doesn't see this as just a two-and-whatever team. He feels it's a new year for this team, and that he can really come in and truly help them win some games."

Why isn't he excited about the 'possible addition' of VY?

run-david-run
03-30-2006, 09:51 PM
Coming from a dude that has a picture of Big Dave on his myspace site... I'm not surprised.

"I wish I knew how to quit ya Dave" - Doom Capers to Dave Carr
wow, that has to be the most over-used gay joke out there...i really dont think cowboys doing cowboys has anything to do with E-Mo, or Doom Capers...:ok:

michaelm
03-30-2006, 09:51 PM
The chronicle is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760740.html




Finally, some solid information from a good source... Good find Texfan

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 09:53 PM
The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. The only part of the deal that has yet to be finalized is what the Texans will give the Bills as compensation. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.

4 yr/14 mil....not bad! :yahoo:

Hopefully we can get away giving the 5th rounder instead of the 4th... :stirpot:

run-david-run
03-30-2006, 09:55 PM
Great news, although I dont really like getting this close then stoping everything until Monday... Anyway, its great to hear all of his comments about AJ and the Texas...cant wait to see him do his thing for us.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 09:56 PM
Mark Berman is confirming the deal, but did say that Moulds will be in town monday to finalize the deal. The only sticking point is the 4th or 5th rounder the Texans will send to the Bills.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 09:57 PM
Hopefully we can get away giving the 5th rounder instead of the 4th... :stirpot:


:stirpot: ?????

inappropriate use of smilie... 5 yard penalty... repeat the down... :)

texansfan1974
03-30-2006, 09:57 PM
Moulds will be flying to Houston Monday for a physical. A 4 year deal worth about 14mil. is what they agreed on. The Bills and the Texans are still trying to agree. this all came for fox news just now.:yahoo:

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760740.html

March 30, 2006, 9:22PM
Texans close to finalizing deal for Moulds

By MEGAN MANFULL
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

After days of negotiations, the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills wide receiver Eric Moulds.

The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. The only part of the deal that has yet to be finalized is what the Texans will give the Bills as compensation. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.

Moulds will arrive in town on Monday to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite Andre Johnson.

"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," said Greg Johnson, Moulds' agent. "We'd be overstepping our bounds if we said it's just about dotting the i's and crossing the t's. It's not that close to being done, but we are very excited."

Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday. Casserly will be in Los Angeles over the weekend to watch running back Reggie Bush workout at Southern Cal's pro day on Sunday.

Moulds, a 10-year veteran, was the Texans' main priority during the past week. After being outbid by Tennessee for free agent receiver David Givens, the Texans turned their focus to Moulds, who had two years left on his contract with the Bills.

Since Moulds was set to count about $10.8 million against Buffalo's salary cap next season, the Bills wanted to restructure his contract. When their attempts failed, they granted Moulds permission to seek a trade.

Moulds, who is 6-2, 210 pounds, has spent his entire career in Buffalo. He was a first-round pick in the 1996 draft and has been a full-time starter since 1998. He has 675 catches for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns in 154 career games.

Moulds, a native of Lucedale, Miss., is excited about moving closer to his home.

"His mom has only attended about five games in Buffalo," Johnson said. "She says she can't wait to get in her RV and head down I-10 for the six-hour drive. She wants to tailgate with the fans. She says it will remind her of his college days (at Mississippi State).

"Hopefully this will work out for everyone. I can't say it definitely will, but we're very excited."

Moulds has been hampered by an offense that has struggled for most of the past five years. The passing game, which has ranked no better than 27th in the past three seasons, was part of the reason Moulds sought to leave Buffalo.

While the Texans ranked 30th out of 32 teams in passing last year, Johnson said Moulds is optimistic that won't be the case for long.

"He's excited about catching balls from David Carr, and he's especially excited because there won't just be one Pro Bowl receiver — there will be two," Johnson said. "He told me, 'How do I know there are two Pro Bowl receivers? Because Andre Johnson beat me out two years ago.'

"He's excited about the possible addition of Reggie Bush or even playing alongside Domanick Davis. They are both great backs. He doesn't see this as just a two-and-whatever team. He feels it's a new year for this team, and that he can really come in and truly help them win some games."

:yahoo: :banana: :bouncey:

I've been waiting all night for that!

el toro
03-30-2006, 09:59 PM
Pop the Dom, Jenkins.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 09:59 PM
Great news, although I dont really like getting this close then stoping everything until Monday... Anyway, its great to hear all of his comments about AJ and the Texas...cant wait to see him do his thing for us.


Especially since Saturday is APRIL 1ST. Prepare for the barrage of Mouldz is a EAGEL!!! posts.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 10:00 PM
Great news, although I dont really like getting this close then stoping everything until Monday... Anyway, its great to hear all of his comments about AJ and the Texas...cant wait to see him do his thing for us.


One of the previous posts mentioned that the deal is contingent on Moulds passing a physical. I thought I read that the physical is scheduled for Monday.

*edit*
texansfan1974, you scooped me on this post!

michaelm
03-30-2006, 10:02 PM
Especially since Saturday is APRIL 1ST. Prepare for the barrage of Mouldz is a EAGEL!!! posts.


Good call Señor Stan. I would have been one of the *****s who fell for it...!

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 10:05 PM
So, what would be his number?
82, 85, 86, 89, 12, 14,15, 16, 17, 18, 19 are available

Edit: I don't know Jeb's numbah.

dat_boy_yec
03-30-2006, 10:06 PM
I am so happy. Is it wrong to be this happy. Who cares if it aint. YEAH BABY GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!:yahoo: :superman: :yahoo: :redtowel:

Rovator
03-30-2006, 10:08 PM
Who will budge first? Texans or Bills? You gotta assume it will be the Bills since, as has been mentioned a dozen times, we have the leverage.

Str8tupg42k1
03-30-2006, 10:08 PM
had to be in this piece of message board history!!
:yahoo: :yahoo: :redtowel: :redtowel:
also i'm happy we got emo cant wait for the season to start!!!

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 10:11 PM
I even posted the Chronicle article on the Eagles message board:

http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?act=ST&f=30&t=340505&st=260#entry5984119

:stirpot: :redtowel: :texflag: :texans:

TEXANS84
03-30-2006, 10:11 PM
March 30, 2006, 9:22PM
Texans close to finalizing deal for Moulds

By MEGAN MANFULL
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle



What's going on John? Letting Megan beat you to it?

michaelm
03-30-2006, 10:12 PM
One more time for posterity. Of course, it might not be 81, but 81 was the easiest to photoshop in...


http://www.michaelmassey.net/images/Moulds_81.jpg

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm just glad his agent came out and said something to shut down all the rumors.

I think Fox Sports SW is about to talk about Moulds in the next 25 minutes. You might want to check it out.

Texans34Life
03-30-2006, 10:13 PM
Just landed on KFFL:

Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.

GP
03-30-2006, 10:13 PM
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

From KFFL.com:


Bills | Moulds still with the Bills
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:32:34 -0800

WGR550.com reports agent Harry Henderson said reports of Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds reaching a contract agreement with the Houston Texans are false. WGR also talked with the Bills, and Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of a trade between the Bills and Texans are also false.

-----------------------------------------------

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............................

Errant Hothy
03-30-2006, 10:14 PM
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

From KFFL.com:


Bills | Moulds still with the Bills
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:32:34 -0800

WGR550.com reports agent Harry Henderson said reports of Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds reaching a contract agreement with the Houston Texans are false. WGR also talked with the Bills, and Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of a trade between the Bills and Texans are also false.

-----------------------------------------------

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............................

Dude,

1 Your way late

2 There are several reports debunking this

Just landed on KFFL:

Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.


3 This sin't deserving of a new thread

powerfuldragon
03-30-2006, 10:14 PM
Defenses can't waste four guys trying to defend andre and Moulds

And if we get bush?

Nightmare situation for a defensive back/coordinator.

GP
03-30-2006, 10:15 PM
hmmmmmmm............

dirty steve
03-30-2006, 10:20 PM
saw walter's number is 85 on the roster page. i think putzier was 88 in denver, but that is taken.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 10:22 PM
saw walter's number is 85 on the roster page. i think putzier was 88 in denver, but that is taken.

81 is Matt Murphy. Will he still be around? If so, he'd probably give it up for a small price...

19 is available if he wants to go all Keyshawn on us...

TexanFan881
03-30-2006, 10:23 PM
Well, for the third different time on this thread, let's party :party:

cap1
03-30-2006, 10:29 PM
This looks really good. I am glad that it is a 4 year deal so that we can spread the signing bonus out over more years.

dhaNim
03-30-2006, 10:30 PM
Just landed on KFFL:

Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.
This is exactly what the Southwest Sports Report just said.

gtexan02
03-30-2006, 10:31 PM
I think this has already been posted, but just in case:

Bills | Team close to trading Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:00:18 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.


Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.

Woohoo!

texansfan88
03-30-2006, 10:38 PM
Betcha a dollar it goes down like this

Texans Receive
Moulds
Bills 4th Round Pick

Bills Receive
Texans 4th Round Pick
Texans 5th Round Pick

basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 10:39 PM
Betcha a dollar it goes down like this

Texans Receive
Moulds
Bills 4th Round Pick

Bills Receive
Texans 4th Round Pick
Texans 5th Round Pick

basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s


that would be so bad

TEXANS84
03-30-2006, 10:40 PM
Texans Receive
Moulds
Bills 4th Round Pick

Bills Receive
Texans 4th Round Pick
Texans 5th Round Pick

basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s


^^ I'd bite on that scenario.

edo783
03-30-2006, 10:40 PM
basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s

Mmmm, works for me.

JAXwithanX
03-30-2006, 10:42 PM
I even posted the Chronicle article on the Eagles message board:

http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?act=ST&f=30&t=340505&st=260#entry5984119

:stirpot: :redtowel: :texflag: :texans:

i have to know what the eagles are saying....and i registered for the board but of course i have to wait now.

Big B Texan Fan
03-30-2006, 10:43 PM
what are the bills saying.

O.G.
03-30-2006, 10:44 PM
Betcha a dollar it goes down like this

Texans Receive
Moulds
Bills 4th Round Pick

Bills Receive
Texans 4th Round Pick
Texans 5th Round Pick

basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s

I could see that happening.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 10:45 PM
i have to know what the eagles are saying....and i registered for the board but of course i have to wait now.


they are p i s s e d that moulds decided to sign with the texans and still they believe they have a chance to sign moulds and will do so.

GhostRaider2006
03-30-2006, 10:48 PM
they are p i s s e d that moulds decided to sign with the texans and still they believe they have a chance to sign moulds and will do so.

It's funny as hell over there but I think it's finally taken its toll on them over now. And reality is starting to set in as they are basically just insulting the Texans with every post now. They are all just bitter now.

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 10:49 PM
Here are a few.
haha, why the texans?? Who wouldn't wanna be an Eagle.

We have a quaterback in McNabb. Who do the Texans have to deliver the ball to Moulds. I think there is gunna be some competition between him and Andre Johnson

at least we can focus on getting javon walker

As Bentley reminded us, verbal agreements aren't worth the paper they're not written on.

Okay the Birds did not go 3-13....they went 6-10...Whoooo Hooooo

TO made us a better team and DMac a better QB....You are blind and stupid if you think any differently, he also made it a tuff matchup for safties to try and watch LJ, Westy, and TO...they had to choose, and often got burned....

The problem with "the team" getting back is that this "bum" division, as you refer to it, has gotten A LOT better...GIBBS has had two years...Parcels has turned the tide, and The Giants have a QB now....We owned the division because the Division STUNK...it is MUCH better now...then in our little 2001-2004 run...

Oh, and incase you think all of what I say is bubkis...VEGAS is on my side....NOT YOURS...we/ the BIRDS...are a LOOOOOONG SHOT....we were 4-1 in our SB year...and 2-1 to win the NFC....Today we are 18-1....WAKE UP DUDE...and stop drinking the GREEN KOOL AID!

newbiefan
03-30-2006, 10:49 PM
It's funny as hell over there but I think it's finally taken its toll on them over now. And reality is starting to set in as they are basically just insulting the Texans with every post now. They are all just bitter now.


Copy and paste some of the funniest posts?

EDIT: looks like u did it w/out me askin

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 10:49 PM
It's funny as hell over there but I think it's finally taken its toll on them over now. And reality is starting to set in as they are basically just insulting the Texans with every post now. They are all just bitter now.


yea there calling us queers and brokeback, my sister is waiting for me. stupid stuff but funny!!

michaelm
03-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Betcha a dollar it goes down like this

Texans Receive
Moulds
Bills 4th Round Pick

Bills Receive
Texans 4th Round Pick
Texans 5th Round Pick

basically moulds for 5th and swap 4s


I scooped you on this trade idea several pages back! :redtowel:

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 10:52 PM
Copy and paste some of the funniest posts?


1)Texas, I don't want to be rude because we're all NFL fans here, but some teams just have to suck to keep the continuity of the league. If every team was good, it just wouldn't work out. Therefore, the NFL invented THE HOUSTON TEXANS so that the rest of the semi-crappy NFL teams could feel good about themselves. The Browns, Lions and Cardinals thank you.

2)your sister is waiting for you

3)Later Brokeback Billy, hope for 3 wins this year!

4)We made the playoffs with Stinkston and Thrash. Have a record above .500 then come back and open you're mouth. Steers and Queer$! You don't sound like no steer!

5)over/under 21 points Eagles beating texans this year

i say over, we will win 38 - 10

6)texans..aren't they in the arena league?

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 10:52 PM
And a few more...

Thank you for a dose of reality. These fans here think the Birds can win with the WR's they have now http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif

My favorite...
http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/88/22/bigfoot031143774432.jpg

Harry Henderson reported that? I believe in Bigfoot....this one is true guys!

This is probably all agent generated. The reality probably is Reid won't trade a damned thing for Moulds and would be more interested if Moulds was released.

Andy guards fourth round picks like their jelly beans.

newbiefan
03-30-2006, 10:54 PM
haha, those r pretty dumb but amusing

Is the sister thing supposed to be an inbreeding joke?

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 10:55 PM
1)Texas, I don't want to be rude because we're all NFL fans here, but some teams just have to suck to keep the continuity of the league. If every team was good, it just wouldn't work out. Therefore, the NFL invented THE HOUSTON TEXANS so that the rest of the semi-crappy NFL teams could feel good about themselves. The Browns, Lions and Cardinals thank you.

2)your sister is waiting for you

3)Later Brokeback Billy, hope for 3 wins this year!

4)We made the playoffs with Stinkston and Thrash. Have a record above .500 then come back and open you're mouth. Steers and Queer$! You don't sound like no steer!

5)over/under 21 points Eagles beating texans this year

i say over, we will win 38 - 10

6)texans..aren't they in the arena league?
As much as our QB sucks, he doesn't throw up in two minute drills.

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 10:55 PM
As much as our QB sucks, he doesn't throw up in two minute drills.

Word.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 10:56 PM
haha, those r pretty dumb but amusing

Is the sister thing supposed to be an inbreeding joke?

i guess. they mostly keep saying 2-14 like i didn't sit threw that season last year and expect it to hurt me more than it already.

believe me when i say this offseason has made me forget about 2-14 and now i'm ready for the draft and then TC.

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 10:57 PM
its been posted before, but if you want to read use

bugmenot_eagles
12345

No posting ability, but you can watch the show

newbiefan
03-30-2006, 10:58 PM
believe me when i say this offseason has made me forget about 2-14 and now i'm ready for the draft and then TC.


agreed

O.G.
03-30-2006, 10:58 PM
i guess. they mostly keep saying 2-14 like i didn't sit threw that season last year and expect it to hurt me more than it already.

believe me when i say this offseason has made me forget about 2-14 and now i'm ready for the draft and then TC.

I guess Philly forgot what there record looked like last year and without McNabb, how well McMan and Dietmer did....

GhostRaider2006
03-30-2006, 11:00 PM
Just out of curiosity how many post do you think will be in this thread before we get to Monday noon time when the next explosion of post is almost certain to happen. LOL!!

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 11:00 PM
Now they are trying to justify not getting moulds. some are upset saying that he would be a #1 on their team and others saying he wasn't even a #1 on his old team. pretty funny just watching them being p i s s e d.

The Dude Abides
03-30-2006, 11:02 PM
I guess Philly forgot what there record looked like last year and without McNabb, how well McMan and Dietmer did....

I have a good feeling Philly is on their way down. With the other 3 teams in their division no longer being cellar dwellers, they are going to have to work for their division crown.

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 11:03 PM
Just out of curiosity how many post do you think will be in this thread before we get to Monday noon time when the next explosion of post is almost certain to happen. LOL!!


nowhere as many as will be posted on their board trying to find anything that moulds is going to sign with them. they are pretty pathetic.

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 11:04 PM
Now they are trying to justify not getting moulds. some are upset saying that he would be a #1 on their team and others saying he wasn't even a #1 on his old team. pretty funny just watching them being p i s s e d.
Even the Bush/Young threads are more mature...maybe not

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 11:04 PM
Even the Bush/Young threads are more mature...maybe not


its about the same

swtbound07
03-30-2006, 11:06 PM
got this off the E-board

from kffl.com
Texans | Moulds may be a texan soon, poor eric says Marv
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

When reached for comment, Marv Levy said it's true that moulds may soon be a texan but is isnt for sure yet. Levy stated "We were mad at eric for what he did to us, so we want to trade him to an awful team with no hope of getting eric that super bowl ring he most eagerly wants" Moulds was reached for a comment and said "This sucks, i have to play with david Fing carr, this team sucks. I would rather play for NFL Europe than the Houston Texans".

Errant Hothy
03-30-2006, 11:06 PM
Whats the message board addy, again, please

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 11:07 PM
got this off the E-board

from kffl.com
Texans | Moulds may be a texan soon, poor eric says Marv
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

When reached for comment, Marv Levy said it's true that moulds may soon be a texan but is isnt for sure yet. Levy stated "We were mad at eric for what he did to us, so we want to trade him to an awful team with no hope of getting eric that super bowl ring he most eagerly wants" Moulds was reached for a comment and said "This sucks, i have to play with david Fing carr, this team sucks. I would rather play for NFL Europe than the Houston Texans".

I forgot to post that one on here. good find. i will try to find the other one.

JAXwithanX
03-30-2006, 11:09 PM
lol....those dudes are pissed....i'm glad this board doesn't go all crazy like that really....well...at least on other teams. they are even ripping eachother apart over there.

Carr Bombed
03-30-2006, 11:09 PM
This one is my favorite

from kffl.com
Texans | Moulds may be a texan soon, poor eric says Marv
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

When reached for comment, Marv Levy said it's true that moulds may soon be a texan but is isnt for sure yet. Levy stated "We were mad at eric for what he did to us, so we want to trade him to an awful team with no hope of getting eric that super bowl ring he most eagerly wants" Moulds was reached for a comment and said "This sucks, i have to play with david Fing carr, this team sucks. I would rather play for NFL Europe than the Houston Texans".

texanfan2002114
03-30-2006, 11:09 PM
their site just went offline for maintenance, so no more funnies tonight.

Slobberknocker
03-30-2006, 11:09 PM
I have a good feeling Philly is on their way down. With the other 3 teams in their division no longer being cellar dwellers, they are going to have to work for their division crown.


The Redskins are beyond cellar dwellers. Randle-El, Brandon Lloyd, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley -- all under the play calling of Al Saunders.

The NFC East had better look out...

el toro
03-30-2006, 11:10 PM
Philly Phan should be the last one trotting out stereotypes. Seriously.

mexican_texan
03-30-2006, 11:10 PM
lol....those dudes are pissed....i'm glad this board doesn't go all crazy like that really....well...at least on other teams. they are even ripping eachother apart over there.
Check the college/draft section of the MB.

JAXwithanX
03-30-2006, 11:12 PM
Check the college/draft section of the MB.

thats why i added 'really...well.....at least other teams' to the post. it happens somewhat....but over there it is definetely worse....at least in my eyes. i guess i'm in more disbelief over how they all don't mind talking down on another team.

RB5
03-30-2006, 11:13 PM
Especially since Saturday is APRIL 1ST. Prepare for the barrage of Mouldz is a EAGEL!!! posts.

Try it on the Eagles board. They'll love that. :stirpot: I'd sign up, but I'd probably get kicked off pretty quick. Not sure it'd be worth the effort. Y'all have fun over there and keep the good ones coming.

So happy that they seem to have finally got this done. I've been checking like every 5 minutes for days for updates. Can't wait to see this offense take the field.

:sbad: :taz: :homer:

SESupergenius
03-30-2006, 11:17 PM
I'm impressed with us picking us Moulds (probably our 3rd or 4th targeted receiver), but there is still a couple of positions that are in dire need of an upgrade, CB and OL. Someone really lit a fire under Casserly this offseason (thanks Dan!)

Grid
03-30-2006, 11:18 PM
I'm impressed with us picking us Moulds (probably our 3rd or 4th targeted receiver), but there is still a couple of positions that are in dire need of an upgrade, CB and OL. Someone really lit a fire under Casserly this offseason (thanks Dan!)

I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.

JAXwithanX
03-30-2006, 11:18 PM
I'm impressed with us picking us Moulds (probably our 3rd or 4th targeted receiver), but there is still a couple of positions that are in dire need of an upgrade, CB and OL. Someone really lit a fire under Casserly this offseason (thanks Dan!)

i'd say he was more like our 2nd....i'm pretty sure Givens was the only other WR we thought we would have a chance at.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm impressed with us picking us Moulds (probably our 3rd or 4th targeted receiver), but there is still a couple of positions that are in dire need of an upgrade, CB and OL. Someone really lit a fire under Casserly this offseason (thanks Dan!)

I'm with Grid on this one. Moulds has alot left in the tank. There is every chance that he will be our most productive WR next season. AJ will still get most of the attention, and Moulds will work over most DB2s.

el toro
03-30-2006, 11:20 PM
How are we looking cap-wise? Any room left to pick up some relatively inexpensive free agents (say, $1 mil per year or less) before the draft?

Señor Stan
03-30-2006, 11:20 PM
I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.

Didn't someone from the Chronic claim the Texans were going to take a receiver with their 2nd round pick? This trade will definately put that to rest.

Grid
03-30-2006, 11:22 PM
Which is very good news because that #2 pick is gonna be very valuable, in terms of players available. Spending it on a DB or OT would be much nicer.

el toro
03-30-2006, 11:23 PM
Didn't someone from the Chronic claim the Texans were going to take a receiver with their 2nd round pick? This trade will definately put that to rest.

They can pick for the O-line and secondary exclusively in rounds 2 and 3.

Slobberknocker
03-30-2006, 11:23 PM
Things have certainly taken a turn for the better for the Texans. Putzier at tight end, Bush (likely) at RB, Moulds now at WR... all you really need is to shore up that OL and David Carr will become the happiest guy in Texas.

Grid
03-30-2006, 11:25 PM
Yep.. and even the Oline doesnt really need all that much work. They were misused by the past staff..I think Sherman and Kubiak will really be the biggest contributors to an improved Oline. Though I would like to get a young lineman or two in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Mostly what I want to see us address in this draft is the defensive secondary. That is, imo, one of our weakest parts right now.. and we just cant afford that in our division.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 11:28 PM
Yep.. and even the Oline doesnt really need all that much work. They were misused by the past staff..I think Sherman and Kubiak will really be the biggest contributors to an improved Oline. Though I would like to get a young lineman or two in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Mostly what I want to see us address in this draft is the defensive secondary. That is, imo, one of our weakest parts right now.. and we just cant afford that in our division.

I wouldn't mind taking 2 DBs and 1 OL in rounds 2,3,4...

TexanSam
03-30-2006, 11:30 PM
Didn't someone from the Chronic claim the Texans were going to take a receiver with their 2nd round pick? This trade will definately put that to rest.

John McClain said that if the Texans weren't able to land Moulds, that we would probably take a WR with the 2nd round pick. Now that this deal has taken place, or assuming it will, it's no longer a position of need.

Grid
03-30-2006, 11:32 PM
Thats how id like to see it as well michaelm. Something like:

Ashton Youboty
Daryn Colledge
Cedric Griffen

or

Richard Marshall
Daryn Colledge
Will Blackmon

or

Donte Whitner
Daryn Colledge
Darnell Bing

or

Tye Hill
Daryn Colledge
DeMario Minter

or any combination of those.

TexanSam
03-30-2006, 11:36 PM
O.G. is gonna be a legend from now on in the Texans message board community. Anytime somebody mentions his name it'll have "And the starter of the longest thread in Texans Bull Pen History". Lucky you :highfive:

SESupergenius
03-30-2006, 11:36 PM
I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.
Sorry guys, I wasn't clear, I meant he was the 3rd or 4th target receiver by our scouting department in free agency. He's going to be a starter no doubt.

michaelm
03-30-2006, 11:40 PM
Sorry guys, I wasn't clear, I meant he was the 3rd or 4th target receiver by our scouting department in free agency. He's going to be a starter no doubt.


Check

jacquescas
03-30-2006, 11:48 PM
dont know if this is old but....

Bills | Team close to trading Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:00:18 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.


Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.








so nothing happens til monday guys, take the weekend off, good job on the thread, lets all meet back here lets say monday round noon?

keyfro
03-31-2006, 12:40 AM
grid i agree with the majority of your combos there...daryn colledge would be the perfect fit for the new zone blocking scheme that kubiak is bringing in...there is just one problem...every interview i've read of colledge's mentions nothing about the texans...he says the teams most interested in him are the broncos, falcons, and cards...the texans however have been reported to have high interest in jonathan scott...he now will most likely be our 2nd round pick...unless jonathan joseph from south carolina drops to round 2...you know mcnair loves his gamecocks

dagr8whitehope
03-31-2006, 12:41 AM
I decided to get in on the longest thread in Texans message board history, so here I am. I definitely have to agree with what's been said so far, Moulds would challenge Andre to actually put forth a little effort to keep his number 1 receiver spot with another bona fide receiver in town. That would give 2 great receivers on opposite sides of the field, beginning to fit the mold of what works in the NFL nowadays and give our opponents fits. As far as the draft, what do you guys think the odds are that Michael Huff(SS, Texas)is available early 2nd round to shore up the secondary, a la Cowboys with Roy Williams? I think adding Huff to the secondary with Dunta and P-Buc would take pressure off of those guys to play as close to the line in run coverage and focus more on the passing game, which was an issue with Buchanon last year. Well, that's all i got for now, good thread so far fellas, keep it up.

Erratic Assassin
03-31-2006, 12:49 AM
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.

RB5
03-31-2006, 12:56 AM
Huff's a top 10 pick most likely.

Can you think of a better duo of WR's in the NFL right now? Holt and Bruce maybe. That's the best I got off the top of my head.

Johnson and Moulds. Wow!! :woot2

Malloy
03-31-2006, 12:57 AM
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.

Lets get past the draft first shall we?

GhostRaider2006
03-31-2006, 01:00 AM
Lets get past the draft first shall we?

Agreed. It is finally fun and exciting to be a Texans fan again. Enjoy it.

RB5
03-31-2006, 01:01 AM
Agreed. It is finally fun and exciting to be a Texans fan again. Enjoy it.

Couldn't agree more.

michaelm
03-31-2006, 01:13 AM
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.


Dude, go kick your dog or something.
You have to be a real pessimist not to be able to enjoy this offseason.
Sure, they haven't made a bunch of OL moves, but there should be improvement.

el toro
03-31-2006, 01:14 AM
So we have a head coach and OC who know a thing or two about building quality O-lines calling the shots, one of the top free agent centers coming in, and 3 picks in the early 2nd and 3rd rounds to use (in part) on the O-line and people still are claiming that nothing's been done with the line?

That line's going to look quite nice next season. Especially when defenses have to fear the run and pass on every down.

HJam72
03-31-2006, 01:29 AM
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.

I would agree with all of that except that we have a new coaching staff and we just got Flanagan. Apparently, the coaches make all the trade and draft decisions on this team anyway, so now that Capers and Co. are gone things will be different. Time to let the anger go. They're right this time: Carr will have no excuses.

TreWardTxn
03-31-2006, 02:43 AM
Make no mistake, I want Moulds, but I'm worried...It makes sense that part of the reason he wants out of Buffalo is that they have no real QB. Why would he want to come to a team in the Texans with an unproven signal caller (when he could be in Philly) unless the organization throws tons of money his way? Just have to wait and see...

texan279
03-31-2006, 03:18 AM
LINK (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/14227477.htm)


Moulds trade rumor called untrue

A report that the Eagles were one of two teams possibly closing in on a deal with the Buffalo Bills for wide receiver Eric Moulds is incorrect, a league source said yesterday.

ESPN.com reported that "the Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead, and both teams are expecting quick decisions." The league source said the Eagles have not had any trade discussions for Moulds.

WIP-AM (610) and the Houston Chronicle reported that the Texans had reached an agreement with Moulds on a new deal, and the league source said it was possible that Houston was close to making a trade with Buffalo for the receiver.

The Bills, after Moulds refused to rework the final year of his contract, gave the wide receiver permission to seek a trade. Eagles coach Andy Reid admitted interest in Moulds at the NFL owners meetings Wednesday, saying it was an issue the team was in the process of weighing.

Greg Johnson, a representative for Moulds, said he could not comment on the matter. Earlier in the week, Johnson told reporters that Moulds would prefer to play for the Eagles.

Blu
03-31-2006, 03:20 AM
:wow:
things are really starting to look up.

texan279
03-31-2006, 03:21 AM
LINK (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/14229439.htm)

Report: Moulds to sign with Texans

Eric Moulds' next NFL destination could be known soon.

A source close to the Buffalo receiver yesterday denied reports that he has agreed to contract terms with the Houston Texans, pending a trade. The Houston Chronicle, though, reported in today's editions that Moulds has indeed agreed to a 4-year, $14 million contract, and is expected to arrive there on Monday.

Yesterday, ESPN.com reported that the Texans and the Eagles were the front-runners to acquire the 10-year veteran, who caught 81 passes last season for 816 yards and four touchdowns. Moulds, who turns 33 in July, has been given permission to seek a trade by Buffalo, which wanted him to restructure his current contract for salary-cap reasons.

Greg Johnson, one of Moulds' agents, said earlier this week that Moulds' preference was to play for the Eagles. The Birds have seemed only mildly interested, however. On Wednesday, Eagles coach Andy Reid said the team was "kind of going through that evaluation process right now."

Eagles officials did not return calls last night.

whiskeyrbl
03-31-2006, 04:48 AM
Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.
:yahoo: :drool: :ok: :yahoo:

Texan in Japan
03-31-2006, 06:03 AM
Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.
:yahoo: :drool: :ok: :yahoo:

Ok, so we gotta wait until Mon. Darn, I was hoping to have this done today!

aj.
03-31-2006, 06:29 AM
4/14 and 5 is good, especially if they can make it a 5th rounder. Give me that over what Givens and Burleson got any day.

I've noticed, with only one real exception (Weaver), that the Texans aren't throwing the bosses money around like they have in the past. I wonder if Bob is giving the negotating team more 'help' this year in terms of cost control ...

NederlandTexan
03-31-2006, 06:45 AM
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.
Do the 33rd or 65th selections count as early, or does it have to be a first, or do you just like to complain?:crying:

aj.
03-31-2006, 06:52 AM
If somehow, Winston or McNeil are there at 33 - you never know - or Scott at 65, problem partialy solved. Actually, if Youboty was there at 33 and Scott @ 65, that wouldn't piss me off either.

If you look at the Texans roster now, Tackle is probably the most pressing need with only a recovering Wade, Wand, and Pitts --- and Weigert (maybe) at the position.

CoachJim
03-31-2006, 07:07 AM
If somehow, Winston or McNeil are there at 33 - you never know - or Scott at 65, problem partialy solved. Actually, if Youboty was there at 33 and Scott @ 65, that wouldn't piss me off either.

If you look at the Texans roster now, Tackle is probably the most pressing need with only a recovering Wade, Wand, and Pitts --- and Weigert (maybe) at the position.

IMHFO, assuming we draft RB at #1 and given our FA moves, OT has got to be the most pressing need at #33 unless something insane happens like a stud CB.

thunderkyss
03-31-2006, 07:12 AM
He'll never see that $7.1m - the Bills would cut him rather than pay it, and no other team would trade for him unless they had a new deal in place.


The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus.

$14mil - $5mil(bonus)= $9 million/4yrs= $2.25 million

For 2006, Moulds will recieve $2.25 million(salary)+ $5 million(bonus)= $7.25 million.

I understand that Buffalo had no intention of paying him. But the magic number for Moulds is, and it always has been the $7.1 million he was scheduled to make. With all these low ball deals rumored to be offered to him, I was just saying I don't understand why Moulds would take those deals, especially when he just entered the FA market. It didn't make since. If I were Him, I'd rather be cut, than sign with the worst team in the NFC East, and the worst team in the AFC South, if I wasn't going to get my money. Especially after seeing Glenn get $20million over 5 years, and Givens get $24mil over 4 years. Heck, even looking at those numbers, it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.

I understand Givens is younger, but that is a lot of jack.... And Terrell got $24 mil over 3 years, or something like that, and he is the same age as Moulds.

The only way I believe that these numbers are believable, is because they work out to $7 million for 2006. I understand the Texans likes the 4 years to spread it out, but if I was Moulds, I would have been pretty firm on 3 years........ that's probably all he's going to play, and it'll bring his base up to $3 million.... only another $0.75 mill for the Texans and their cap. the bonus hit would go from $1.25 million a year to $1.6million.... Maybe there are some incentives in their, that aren't showing up yet.

Either way, I think it's a good deal... great, almost. I don't feel so bad about losing Gaffney. & I'm glad we passed on Givens, even thought they are both younger.

thunderkyss
03-31-2006, 07:23 AM
Heck, even looking at those numbers, it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.


Over the three year period Glen has been in Dallas, Moulds has been slightly less productive..... Over his career, he's actually been more productive.

BREAZE
03-31-2006, 07:27 AM
it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.

I understand Givens is younger, but that is a lot of jack.... And Terrell got $24 mil over 3 years, or something like that, and he is the same age as Moulds.



The cost of living is much cheaper here than anywhere else and he will end his career with 4 yrs of single coverage.

I am geek!!!! :drool:

So who gets to wear #80?

BigBull17
03-31-2006, 07:30 AM
If this works out, it helps the draft alot. It lets us use #33, #65,#66, and one of our 2nd day picks on depth at Oline. These moves help improve our protection morre than any #1 overall OT does. If we get Moulds, we dont need a #2 WR in the draft. Cowart and Kalu allow us to maybe pick up some later round steals at LB and DE, or wait for next year all together. Good offseason by the FO IMO. :twocents:

texansfan1974
03-31-2006, 08:01 AM
The cost of living is much cheaper here than anywhere else and he will end his career with 4 yrs of single coverage.

I am geek!!!! :drool:

So who gets to wear #80?
Pretty sure AJ still gets 80. I think Moulds is 88.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-31-2006, 08:05 AM
Bills, Agent Trade Not Done
WGR Newsroom - Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:11 PM


Eric Moulds, for the time being, is still a Buffalo Bill. Reports that a contract extension between Moulds and the Texans has been reached are false, according to the agent for Moulds - Harry Henderson.

WGR Radio was also in touch with the Bills. Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of the trade are false.

Talks continue between the front runners for Moulds, Philadelphia and Houston, and a deal could be completed down the road

Here is the link... http://www.wgr550.com/fullstory.php?id=1484

Not sure what to make of it.

Kaiser Toro
03-31-2006, 08:07 AM
I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.

Grid I have been seeing this and not quite sure I understand. Can you elaborate on the pressure that AJ has had?

el toro
03-31-2006, 08:09 AM
The Chronicle's article came out later than that one. Also, is Henderson the name of the agent? According to the Chronicle, Moulds' agent is Greg Johnson. Maybe Henderson is another rep?

Kaiser Toro
03-31-2006, 08:11 AM
4/14 and 5 is good, especially if they can make it a 5th rounder. Give me that over what Givens and Burleson got any day.

I've noticed, with only one real exception (Weaver), that the Texans aren't throwing the bosses money around like they have in the past. I wonder if Bob is giving the negotating team more 'help' this year in terms of cost control ...

Agreed. It was strange to see Ferens name in print though a couple of days ago.

FirstTexansFan
03-31-2006, 08:15 AM
Can you elaborate on the pressure that AJ has had?

I'm not Grid, but surely you've seen all the double coverage that AJ has had on him? I believe by adding a legit #2, (and from some perspectives) a contender for #1, we spread that coverage out and give our receivers more of an opportunity to be open. Or am I misunderstanding your question?

Kaiser Toro
03-31-2006, 08:23 AM
I'm not Grid, but surely you've seen all the double coverage that AJ has had on him? I believe by adding a legit #2, (and from some perspectives) a contender for #1, we spread that coverage out and give our receivers more of an opportunity to be open. Or am I misunderstanding your question?

I have not seen hardly any double coverage at the line over the course of his career. I have seen on occasions a Safety shading over to AJ. The problem with AJ is his drops and a feeble passing attack. I have not seen AJ have any problems with defenders at the line.

In theory having a #2 is good for a #1. I just do not think any defense has needed to double AJ because they had to repect our running attack. There is no question that this will not be a concern for the Texans moving forward.

Mr. White
03-31-2006, 08:23 AM
check out the avatars for these guys .... birdsfannum1 & mlm142

Just checked it out. LOL..... only in Philly.

Looking at their board sure makes me glad that I'm on this one. Theirs isn't so user-friendly.

GP
03-31-2006, 08:32 AM
I posted last night (from KFFL.com) that the rumors of his signing were untrue...and one second after I posted it there was a NEW post at KFFL.com that said it was pretty much a done deal. A poster ragged me for it, saying I was "way behind" and didn't know what I was talking about.

Now I come here this morning and see that someone a few minutes ago has posted the same thing I posted last night.

I am ready for this whole ordeal to be over with so we can move on.

Have we ever had this kind of message board action for an old guy who wants to play for another team (Eagles) more than he does for us? I guess Pace might come close.

Mike Kerns
03-31-2006, 08:33 AM
At first, I was like "Why do we have to wait until Monday? The Front Office too good to work on the weekends?!?!?" Then I realized that they will be spending most of the weekend with Reggie in Southern Cal.....Priorities,lol.:ok:

Sportsfan
03-31-2006, 08:34 AM
Assuming we get Moulds and Bush, can you imagine the freaking confusion the Texans will cause to opposing defenses w/Moulds,AJ,DD, and Bush all on the field? Not to mention a decent tight end...
Un-freaking-believable.
If this deal goes down, i'll be salivating until Aug/Sep. :drool:

GP
03-31-2006, 08:36 AM
As far as AJ getting pressured is concerned:

He had great concentration two years ago and was pulling down Carr's moon rocket passes...making unreal grabs in pressure situations.

Last year he had high expectations placed upon him and yet he didn't get off to a fast start, because our whole team was broken, and so he got frustrated and never regained his focus (Remember the Sunday night game when he basically erupted like Mt. St. Helens?).

The key to AJ getting in a groove is getting the ball to him early. Whether or not he is doubled is not the problem...it's getting him confidence early on so he stays focused and plays to his potential.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-31-2006, 08:41 AM
I love the Eagles board. This stuff is just too funny.

el toro
03-31-2006, 08:51 AM
I posted last night (from KFFL.com) that the rumors of his signing were untrue...and one second after I posted it there was a NEW post at KFFL.com that said it was pretty much a done deal. A poster ragged me for it, saying I was "way behind" and didn't know what I was talking about.

Now I come here this morning and see that someone a few minutes ago has posted the same thing I posted last night.

I am ready for this whole ordeal to be over with so we can move on.


...and that report dates from yesterday before the Chronic's report came out. Oh well, I'll let someone else worry about this. I'm gonna enjoy the weekend confident that Moulds is on board.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-31-2006, 08:57 AM
At first, I was like "Why do we have to wait until Monday? The Front Office too good to work on the weekends?!?!?" Then I realized that they will be spending most of the weekend with Reggie in Southern Cal.....Priorities,lol.:ok:


I have this feeling that Buffalo is also giving time for Eagles to make a final play for Moulds. Or maybe it is not as a done deal as we have been lead to believe. Nothing is a "done deal" until all parties sign on the dotted line.

Only time will tell, which SUCKS!!!

Mike Kerns
03-31-2006, 09:01 AM
I don't know, after getting burned by Beltran & Pace, I usually am all skiddish in believing it until it is over. That is until I read the Chronicle this morning. He really sounds excited about coming here. I believe the idea of possibly not being double covered every single play is a big part of it. I love the "He's excited about the possibility of them drafting Reggie Bush.":stirpot:

keyfro
03-31-2006, 09:01 AM
i think this offseason has been the best in franchise history with the possibility of the draft just adding to our talent...but i think the best part about it is how espn, the nfl network, and other big time sports media aren't talking about us...trust me this is a good thing...i maybe too optomistic but i'm predicting a huge turn around like what the san diego chargers did in 04 after drafting philip rivers...they made the playoffs that year after having the top pick in the draft...i see us a very similiar position...now that we have a coach who understands offense and that you have to build a team in both the free agency and the draft we have the talent i think to go far this year

TexanBacker93
03-31-2006, 09:13 AM
so nothing happens til monday guys, take the weekend off, good job on the thread, lets all meet back here lets say monday round noon?


Monday could be a great day indeed. I don't have to work. I'll be at Minute Maid watching the 'Stros start their World Series drive off with a win against the JV Marlins. And the Texans add Moulds, giving them 2 of the top 20 wideouts. I should play the lottery that day too.

TexanBacker93
03-31-2006, 09:17 AM
Assuming we get Moulds and Bush, can you imagine the freaking confusion the Texans will cause to opposing defenses w/Moulds,AJ,DD, and Bush all on the field? Not to mention a decent tight end...
Un-freaking-believable.
If this deal goes down, i'll be salivating until Aug/Sep. :drool:


Well, with a Kubiak offense it would cause confusion. Imagine if the team still employed Capers.....

The Texans are lined up with Johnson and Mathis wide to the left. Moulds is wide right. Bush and Davis are in the backfield. Bush goes in motion to the right. Carr takes the snap. It's Davis over the tackle for 2 yards.

bad
03-31-2006, 09:25 AM
Well, with a Kubiak offense it would cause confusion. Imagine if the team still employed Capers.....

The Texans are lined up with Johnson and Mathis wide to the left. Moulds is wide right. Bush and Davis are in the backfield. Bush goes in motion to the right. Carr takes the snap. It's Davis over the tackle for 2 yards. It's funny because it's true. :brickwall