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DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 01:24 PM
Personally I would take C.C. Brown because he hits hard, got a bonus because he loves being around the ball, and he isnt a p*ssy

Like Glenn Earl, and we all know what Im talking about!

Hottoddie
03-26-2006, 01:33 PM
Personally I would take C.C. Brown because he hits hard, got a bonus because he loves being around the ball, and he isnt a *****

Like Glenn Earl, and we all know what Im talking about!

Uhhh....., no, I don't know what you're talking about. Please elaborate.

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 01:35 PM
ummm. ok then, someone plz tell him how glenn earl got punched by a teammate and was out for how long?

newbiefan
03-26-2006, 01:44 PM
Glenn Earl b/c he's got much better coverage skills. Agreed, CC hits harder, probably should be in for goaline situations. The only thing that made earl fall from the first couple rounds wuz the injury and he's healthy now.

mancunian
03-26-2006, 02:12 PM
why not play Earl at FS and Brown at SS?

rmartin65
03-26-2006, 02:19 PM
I like CC better. He seems to want to play more, from the games I've seen.

Texans>Colts
03-26-2006, 02:22 PM
Charels Woodson!!!!:stirpot: He is willing to play FS and is on the FA list

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 02:32 PM
All I have to say is I dont see Glenn Earl earning a money bonus for (as a rookie)being around the ball on every play, kinda reminds me of Troy Polamalu, without as much speed, and without the hair:cool:

PapaL
03-26-2006, 02:41 PM
Charels Woodson!!!!:stirpot: He is willing to play FS and is on the FA list

Please say your kidding. We have enough soft Ex-Raider DBs.

ccdude730
03-26-2006, 02:42 PM
from what i understood it was a sucker punch. so be careful with words, or asterisks.

and i choose earl over brown because CC bites too hard on fakes and is poor in coverage. at this point im confident in saying it is earl's job to lose.

PapaL
03-26-2006, 02:44 PM
why not play Earl at FS and Brown at SS?

I'd like to see them both on the field at the same time. With Earl healthy now and Brown with all the PT he got last year, should be worth a shot.

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 02:48 PM
yes maybe Brown is a little slow, and he bites on fakes, but he was a rookie, who was taken in the 5th round, so I think he did pretty good for a 5th round rookie, but it aint something a little time cant fix.

ccdude730
03-26-2006, 02:57 PM
actually he was a 6th round pick, but the only reason he did see any PT was because of the injury to earl. he is agressive and that is good but sometimes he takes himself out of the play and that is something that might be too hard to fix.

coming out of college, earl was the 2nd rated safety behind s. taylor on alot of boards but he dropped due to his knee injury and he was also well known for his hard hits. cc brown would be a situational player and ST standout but i really couldnt see him getting past earl for the starting SS spot.

bckey
03-26-2006, 03:14 PM
I'd take Earl. I don't think too many of us would fair too well against a sucker punch. No reason for you to be slandering the guy.

LORK 88
03-26-2006, 03:30 PM
Last time I checked, Earl also struggled in coverage during his rookie campaign. Last year in limited time, he came through with 2 INTs and 3 PBUs. I say start Earl and CC, but bring in competition. We've had good sucess drafting late-round safeties, why stop now?

Untamed Guerillaz
03-26-2006, 05:19 PM
im my opinion i think we should start both of them C.C. at FS and Glenn Earl at strong safety

hot pickle
03-26-2006, 05:25 PM
i havent watched that much NFL europe but whenever i do i see anthony floydd making big plays, but i havent really watched enough to see if he gives up big plays to. but what do yall think of this guy

PapaL
03-26-2006, 05:31 PM
i havent watched that much NFL europe but whenever i do i see anthony floydd making big plays, but i havent really watched enough to see if he gives up big plays to. but what do yall think of this guy

NFL europe syas it all. Maybe he'll be ready to compete in a year or two.

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 05:50 PM
i havent watched that much NFL europe but whenever i do i see anthony floydd making big plays, but i havent really watched enough to see if he gives up big plays to. but what do yall think of this guy

Is he a Texan?

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 06:13 PM
C'Mon guys give C.C. Brown some more votes, just 20 more to take the lead.

Farough
03-26-2006, 06:21 PM
I'd much rather Glenn Earl playing SS then i would CC. Better coverage skills make up for his hitting, as long as he makes the tackle i dont care how hard the hit is

Dunta_23
03-26-2006, 06:21 PM
Last time I checked, Earl also struggled in coverage during his rookie campaign. Last year in limited time, he came through with 2 INTs and 3 PBUs. I say start Earl and CC, but bring in competition. We've had good sucess drafting late-round safeties, why stop now?

You are saying weve had luck with late round safeties but you want to bring in more to compete with them as starters? That kind of goes against them being "good" late round safeties no?

Overalls
03-26-2006, 06:27 PM
Who ever does better in camp.

hot pickle
03-26-2006, 06:35 PM
Is he a Texan?


yes sir he is

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster_detail.php?PRKey=187

DominickDavisFan76
03-26-2006, 06:49 PM
Personally I think we should move Mark Estelle to FS, but ok we can have it ur way and see if anthony floyd is anything special.

LORK 88
03-26-2006, 09:15 PM
You are saying weve had luck with late round safeties but you want to bring in more to compete with them as starters? That kind of goes against them being "good" late round safeties no?

Look at our past 2nd day draft picks and lets see who's still on the team.

2002
4th - Johnathan Wells, RB
5th - Ramone Walker, SS
6th - Petey Faggins, CB

2003
4th - Domanick Davis, RB

2004
4th - Glenn Earl, SS
6th - Jammal Lord, FS
6th - Charlie Anderson, OLB


2005
4th - Jerome Mathis, WR
5th - Drew Hodgdon, C
6th - CC Brown, SS
7th - Kenneth Pettway, OLB

Including Curry Burns who got cut awhile ago, that brings us to 5 Safeties who've been drafted on day 2 in only 4 years. So obviously, Im not the only one who thinks that additional competition at the position isnt a bad idea. Brown and Earl are both cabable of starting, but do you really think its a bad idea to give them a challenge?

Dunta_23
03-26-2006, 09:26 PM
I think its a waste to keep taking day 2 safeties to challenge instead of taking an earlier round guy to come in and be the playmaker instead of having projects and test players and such

Hottoddie
03-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Look at our past 2nd day draft picks and lets see who's still on the team.

2002
4th - Johnathan Wells, RB
5th - Ramone Walker, SS
6th - Petey Faggins, CB

2003
4th - Domanick Davis, RB

2004
4th - Glenn Earl, SS
6th - Jammal Lord, FS
6th - Charlie Anderson, OLB


2005
4th - Jerome Mathis, WR
5th - Drew Hodgdon, C
6th - CC Brown, SS
7th - Kenneth Pettway, OLB

Including Curry Burns who got cut awhile ago, that brings us to 5 Safeties who've been drafted on day 2 in only 4 years. So obviously, Im not the only one who thinks that additional competition at the position isnt a bad idea. Brown and Earl are both cabable of starting, but do you really think its a bad idea to give them a challenge?

Or, it could mean that they've been looking for the right safeties. I think we have them now. Last year was the first time that both were on the field together & I believe they'll be even better this year. I don't think safety is a position that needs to be addressed.

Untamed Guerillaz
03-26-2006, 09:47 PM
Or, it could mean that they've been looking for the right safeties. I think we have them now. Last year was the first time that both were on the field together & I believe they'll be even better this year. I don't think safety is a position that needs to be addressed.

you are exactly right about that,safety is not an issue but conner back is a big concern we need another corner like Duante hopefully we can get one one in the draft

ccdude730
03-26-2006, 09:55 PM
I don't think safety is a position that needs to be addressed.
you can make a good arguement that the FS position is one of the teams biggest needs at this point. many other positions we are unsure about, except for a #2 WR, there is someone on the roster who can fill that role. the coaches must now to intense evaluations on where we need the most upgrade and IMO FS is at the top

mexican_texan
03-26-2006, 10:02 PM
I've been an Earl supporter for a while now. He showed signs of leadership and had some nice INT/PBUs. Brown was playing FS for a while when Marcus Coleman was done getting piggyback rides.

Edit: How about we draft Ernie Sims out of FSU if he falls to the second? He plays with a chip on his shoulder and has some speed. He could play Safety and provide depth at LB.

Wolf
03-26-2006, 10:05 PM
with an improved pass rush should come an improved secondary..............:redtowel:

mexican_texan
03-26-2006, 10:09 PM
with an improved pass rush should come an improved secondary..............:redtowel:
The pass rush played well sometimes, very well occassionally. D-Rob still had only 1 pick.

dalemurphy
03-26-2006, 11:01 PM
I like Earl a lot, but he has to play SS. He doesn't have the quickness and doesn't play the ball well enough for FS. I believe CC has more speed and agility and could become a good FS, however, I'm not confident of that. That being said, who knows what the secondary will look like now that their head isn't flooded with confusing reads and assignments. Maybe we have a bunch of ballhawks out there and they just haven't been turned loose yet. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing Ramon Walker compete for some playing time at safety. I've always liked him.

Texas
03-26-2006, 11:14 PM
C.C. Brown...He hits harder and with our new coaches he will learn to play better coverage

Maddict5
03-27-2006, 07:40 AM
let earl start at ss and draft a ball hawk fs like ko or daniel bullocks @#33 if winston isnt there

Big B Texan Fan
03-27-2006, 09:26 AM
I don't think there will be a specific SS and FS. I thnk they'll both play both positions. It'll depend on down and distance, match-up, etc.....

B.Diddy
03-27-2006, 10:18 AM
reguardless what anybody says it's a blank slate right now with new coaches
who ever is the best in training camp will have the job

Ibar_Harry
03-27-2006, 12:34 PM
All I know is that CC received about 240,000 from the NFL pool for people who sign minimum salaries and play a lot of minutes. He was number 2 on the list. That was pay above and beyond what the Texans game him....

el toro
03-27-2006, 01:07 PM
Any thoughts on him and what it would take to get another pick high enough to land him?

Untamed Guerillaz
03-27-2006, 07:13 PM
let earl start at ss and draft a ball hawk fs like ko or daniel bullocks @#33 if winston isnt there
Why do you want to use a pick on a safety in which we have 2 good safeties we have other issues on this team to address like cornerback and further more we talking about we need an reciever what about the TE Davis. The man runs a 4.3 and he is 6'3 252lbs or something like that what more do you need.hollar back tell me what yall think?

DominickDavisFan76
03-27-2006, 07:15 PM
Why do you want to use a pick on a safety in which we have 2 good safeties we have other issues on this team to address like cornerback and further more we talking about we need an reciever what about the TE Davis. The man runs a 4.3 and he is 6'3 252lbs or something like that what more do you need.hollar back tell me what yall think?


I wish we could have Vernon Davis, but that would destroy the whole point of us paying big bucks for Putzier, but nice try it aint gonna happen

HOOK'EM
03-27-2006, 11:59 PM
Go for one of the big safeties w/ the 2nd, then pick up a corner in the 3rd. Griffen should still be there, that would give us a big physical corner.

Untamed Guerillaz
03-29-2006, 07:48 AM
I wish we could have Vernon Davis, but that would destroy the whole point of us paying big bucks for Putzier, but nice try it aint gonna happen
What i was saying was draft davis as a receiver not as a TE so we can still get a good receiver out of this year's draft b/c there isn't no great receivers coming out for a while

Maddict5
03-29-2006, 08:03 AM
Why do you want to use a pick on a safety in which we have 2 good safeties we have other issues on this team to address like cornerback and further more we talking about we need an reciever what about the TE Davis. The man runs a 4.3 and he is 6'3 252lbs or something like that what more do you need.hollar back tell me what yall think?

we have 2 good strong safeties- neither are great in coverage though- which is an important part of playing FS

Untamed Guerillaz
03-30-2006, 06:30 PM
dude pay attention to the stats C.C. is only a rookie and im pretty sure that with a little coaching he will be fine give the team a break if you dont like him go play madden or something and trade him if you dont like him....hollar

dagr8whitehope
03-31-2006, 01:58 AM
The pass rush played well sometimes, very well occassionally. D-Rob still had only 1 pick.

When the pass rush did play well, the ball was thrown away from dunta, hence the 1 pick. P-Buc was the guy to pick on for qb's because he was always soft in coverage. Robinson held down his side of the field, and was not tested, eventually the schemes will force throws into the defense's strong suit, unfortunately it's not yet that time.

DominickDavisFan76
04-01-2006, 09:45 AM
I still think that C.C Brown should be our starting SS

because hes a rookie, do u think every rookie never made a mistake?, Pac-Man made a lot of mistakes, and I mean he can work on all his problem areas, I say give him 2 years and we will make the pro bowl.

I know its not his speed that u ppl dont like about him

Rodney Harrison is the slowest starting S in the NFL yet he is maybe one of the best, so i think C.C. Brown will be one of the best,
I think of him as a Defensive Tom Brady.:cool:

mexican_texan
04-01-2006, 09:53 AM
because hes a rookie, do u think every rookie never made a mistake?, Pac-Man made a lot of mistakes, and I mean he can work on all his problem areas, I say give him 2 years and we will make the pro bowl.
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Does anyone remember when Pac-Man tried to hit the Browns' Reuben Droughns with a cheap shot after the whistle? Pac-man tried to imitate D-Rob, but he took the bigger hit.