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Dime
03-26-2006, 10:15 AM
I like quite a few of the moves recently... the only move I dislike is one player from our team from last year has not been signed. Granted, he was the best player the last few years (and behind a horrible O-line, how could you be). Last year, however, he showed me he has improved very well and did some good runs.

Bring back our 3rd backup to Bush and Davis... Bring back Jonathan Wells. You probably can get him for cheap.:texflag: :fans:

TexanBacker93
03-26-2006, 10:21 AM
I know he had stated that he wanted to go somewhere he had a chance to be either the guy or at least split carries. Maybe he's told the Texans he won't do anything with them at this moment. I agree with you that a guy that will do whatever you ask is nice to have. He's the epitome of a "team guy." I still hope they can do something. If they draft Bush, though, it's probably not going to happen. I can't see Bush, Davis, Morency, Wells, Norris, and Cook all making the roster. I'd keep Wells as a backup to both spots myself and waive Norris.

bigTEXan8
03-26-2006, 10:38 AM
Johnathen Wells is my starting RB in Madden. I love the guy on the field...he plays b**** to the wall every game I see him play. I just wish he would have split the carries a little bit more during the his years in Houston. No offense to DD fans, but if he left, Wells stayed, then I'd be cool with drafting Bush then.

MorKnolle
03-26-2006, 11:22 AM
I doubt Wells gets resigned, he didn't seem real content and I don't think Kubiak has much reason to hang on to him. He played special teams and was pretty good at it and was a decent receiver for a RB his size, but he was a 255 lb. RB that tried to dance around people rather than hitting the hole hard and running people over, and he was not a good blocker, so he really has no function in the new offensive scheme. It doesn't seem like he was overly well-liked within the organization anyways, and given the fact that they've already resigned people like Troy Evans, Ramon Walker, Donovan Morgan, Jamal Lord, DaShon Polk, Frank Chamberlin, etc. without resigning him I really don't expect him to be back.

Texans Pride
03-26-2006, 11:57 AM
I think the longer he sits in FA, the better chance we have of getting him back. Has he drawn interest from any other teams?

Texans_Chick
03-26-2006, 12:05 PM
I doubt Wells gets resigned, he didn't seem real content and I don't think Kubiak has much reason to hang on to him.

What makes you believe that he "didn't seem real content?" Just curious because I hadn't seen any of that but maybe I missed something.

He seemed to be a very team guy, and I know that he has really enjoyed having Coach Joe as his ST coach and being one of the leaders on ST. I could completely see him going somewhere else if the money were right, but he would be a guy I'd like to see back as I like his versatility and size and willingness to work.

horn_omatic
03-26-2006, 12:06 PM
Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.

Doom Capers
03-26-2006, 12:08 PM
I agree, but I also disagree. Wells deserves a chance to go somewhere and start, or at least get split carries.

Texans_Chick
03-26-2006, 12:29 PM
Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.


I don't know this for a fact, but just looking at what the Texans are doing and saying, I am thinking they are:

1. Trying to get guys to play in the positions that they are most likely to be successful doing. So instead of having McKinney be a team guy and play center because we don't have an experienced guy there, we go draft an experienced guy there and put McKinney in the best spot for him to do well.

Some of that might just be a matter of how little options we had in our early years, but I would think it is a better practice to have guys play where they are gonna do better instead of trying to convert people.

2. So, it might just be better to have someone specialized as a FB play FB, especially if he is the sort of FB that might excel in Kubiak's scheme.



Also, it may be that we couldn't count on Wells doing that, if he really was trying to get a FA deal somewhere else.

bigTEXan8
03-26-2006, 01:02 PM
I agree, but I also disagree. Wells deserves a chance to go somewhere and start, or at least get split carries.

He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM:twocents:

dat_boy_yec
03-26-2006, 01:17 PM
He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM:twocents:

What would that make DD?

el toro
03-26-2006, 01:19 PM
Nothing wrong with keeping a stable of backs considering who is coaching the team now.

TexansNeedRBin05
03-26-2006, 01:53 PM
Lose Davis and use Wells as a change of pace for Bush.

thegr8fan
03-26-2006, 04:44 PM
the reason you haven't seen Wells re-signed is because there isn't much use for a 255 lb wimp RB, who gets tackled by 180 CB's, using their arms only, who couldn't block a high school player, and his great special teams players must code speak for "he can't find anyone to block" even if he is the left side of the 'wedge' because I have sat there several times watching someone run right by him and tackle Mathis.

Wells = Waste of a draft pick for a RB. Davis runs harder and is smaller. Neither of them will be noted for their blocking skills though.

Napa Auto Parts
03-26-2006, 04:54 PM
the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan.

thegr8fan
03-26-2006, 04:56 PM
the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan. zackly

bigTEXan8
03-26-2006, 04:59 PM
What would that make DD?

I have no problem with DD. To me though, he's not going to have that big-time run. It's just my personal opinion on how I like my RBs. I've always preferred 1 guy who will burn you *** to the outside, and another guy who's going to run it right down your throat. DD just doesn't do it for me. I think he's a solid RB...

done88
03-26-2006, 06:25 PM
We need a resign Wells petition.

Corrosion
03-26-2006, 06:28 PM
I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree .... :twocents:

MorKnolle
03-26-2006, 07:06 PM
What makes you believe that he "didn't seem real content?" Just curious because I hadn't seen any of that but maybe I missed something.

He seemed to be a very team guy, and I know that he has really enjoyed having Coach Joe as his ST coach and being one of the leaders on ST. I could completely see him going somewhere else if the money were right, but he would be a guy I'd like to see back as I like his versatility and size and willingness to work.

He wasn't content with his participation on offense, it sounded like he whined a lot about not getting more carries (probably should have gotten a few more) and created more conflict among people than he resolved.

Insted of signing Cook, i dont know why they just didnt switch Wells to fullback. He said last year he would welcome the transition, plus he has better size than Cook.

Wells is not a very good blocker to be our main FB.

He should be splitting carries with Bush since it seems like he would be a perfect compliment to him. JM:twocents:

I don't see Wells being a "perfect complement" for Bush. We could use a bigger, power RB but Wells doesn't like to use his size and run with power, he tries to dance around like a scatback when he is 6'1", 255 lbs.

We need a resign Wells petition.

I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree .... :twocents:

Let's not, we have enough good special teams type players rather than players that are good at the positions they are supposed to be playing. You shouldn't dedicate so many roster spots to special teams players.

Assuming we draft Reggie Bush, I'd probably prefer to keep Morency to Davis. He is a little bigger, a little faster, and the same type of runner although he probably doesn't catch the ball as well. Although he is already older than Domanick, he has less miles on his legs and has no injury concerns to this point in time and I think he can be as effective if not more effective of a runner as Davis is, and right now he's a lot cheaper to keep but at the same time Domanick Davis is also pretty expensive to trade. I think drafting Bush could mean trading one of these two guys and getting more of a power RB or just let Cook/Norris run the ball get a guy more along Hollings as emergency depth at RB.

Mr Shush
03-27-2006, 05:45 AM
I'd expect Hollings to be gone before the season starts. If Davis wasn't so early in his contract, we might well look to trade him (not that we'd get all that much - a third if we were really lucky) and go with Wells and Morency alongside Bush. Wells had far more per-play value than Davis last year running, and slightly more receiving. He's also better in blitz pick-up (not that that's a challenge). As it is, the cap hit for trading Davis is far too big, so we've signed Cook to replace Wells' special teams production and Wells will walk.

texman8
03-27-2006, 08:16 AM
the worst move made this off season was giving david carr pro bowl money we could of let him hit the free agent market and got him for pennies on the dollar instead of making him the most over paid texan.

Wow, Another Carr bashing comment in a thread about J Wells.
Maybe, you should change your avatar...lol

Pro bowl money? have to check into that....I'm thinking Carr may rank in #10 to #15 in salaries.

Dime
03-27-2006, 08:52 AM
He wasn't content with his participation on offense, it sounded like he whined a lot about not getting more carries (probably should have gotten a few more) and created more conflict among people than he resolved.



Wells is not a very good blocker to be our main FB.



I don't see Wells being a "perfect complement" for Bush. We could use a bigger, power RB but Wells doesn't like to use his size and run with power, he tries to dance around like a scatback when he is 6'1", 255 lbs.





Let's not, we have enough good special teams type players rather than players that are good at the positions they are supposed to be playing. You shouldn't dedicate so many roster spots to special teams players.

Assuming we draft Reggie Bush, I'd probably prefer to keep Morency to Davis. He is a little bigger, a little faster, and the same type of runner although he probably doesn't catch the ball as well. Although he is already older than Domanick, he has less miles on his legs and has no injury concerns to this point in time and I think he can be as effective if not more effective of a runner as Davis is, and right now he's a lot cheaper to keep but at the same time Domanick Davis is also pretty expensive to trade. I think drafting Bush could mean trading one of these two guys and getting more of a power RB or just let Cook/Norris run the ball get a guy more along Hollings as emergency depth at RB.


Wow... I totally disagree with you. First off.... Hollings has been cut quite a while back, and hasnt shown ANYTHING. Last year, Wells had more holes to run through which he did. He wasnt dancing.. he was running. I would go step by step and answer each of your 'problems' with him, but your post gave me a headache. :brickwall

Dime
03-27-2006, 08:57 AM
Wow, Another Carr bashing comment in a thread about J Wells.
Maybe, you should change your avatar...lol

Pro bowl money? have to check into that....I'm thinking Carr may rank in #10 to #15 in salaries.

Allow me to chime in.
Even if he ranked #20, he has NOT shown he has earned a contact like that YET! Maybe you should change your avatar to your head up David's <<<<Edited for Texan Love of another fan>>>> hehe.. kidding. :fans: :texflag:

HJam72
03-27-2006, 09:08 AM
The message board should have a fight club so we can all meet somewhere and beat each other up. :)

jerek
03-27-2006, 11:56 AM
I know he had stated that he wanted to go somewhere he had a chance to be either the guy or at least split carries. Maybe he's told the Texans he won't do anything with them at this moment. I agree with you that a guy that will do whatever you ask is nice to have. He's the epitome of a "team guy." I still hope they can do something. If they draft Bush, though, it's probably not going to happen. I can't see Bush, Davis, Morency, Wells, Norris, and Cook all making the roster. I'd keep Wells as a backup to both spots myself and waive Norris.

I have heard that Wells wants the chance to be the man and also wants more cheddar than the Texans are willing to pony for him.

IMO Wells is okay, but nothing great. He has the build of a power back (250+ lbs) but tries to dance too much. As well, I have heard that he is somewhat selfish and a locker room problem, believes he should get more time and carries than he does. Just what I am hearing.

Besides, Norris is the better special teams player. If we cut Wells I will not lose any sleep over it.

rafterticket
03-27-2006, 01:00 PM
I don't know this for a fact, but just looking at what the Texans are doing and saying, I am thinking they are:

1. Trying to get guys to play in the positions that they are most likely to be successful doing.

Considering where the team has been, that idea is revolutionary.

ledzeppelin229
03-27-2006, 03:53 PM
I think the only reason people hate to see Wells go is because he was on the original roster. He's also been somewhat of an underdog story sticking to the roster, so as a player it's easy to like him. As far as pure skills go though..he isn't that unique. I think the longer he waits to sign a contract somewhere, the more he increases his chances of watching all the games from his couch this season. He waits for a bigger contract/role at his own peril IMO.

Daonly
03-27-2006, 04:04 PM
I concur , Bring back Wells . Special teams Stand Out ..... does all the little things . Kinda reminds me of the things Troy Brown does for the Pats but to a lesser degree .... :twocents:



He wasnt trying to be good until his last year of his contract; Plus everyone new Capers would be gone at the end of the year and their would be changes, he had to go out and get some good tape on him at the end of the season to show the world he got a lil bit left so he can be pick up in free agency. Don't believe the hype.

2 CENTS
03-27-2006, 11:56 PM
Dominic Davis and Reggie Bush are the Perfect RB Tandem. Because they are so similiar. The only thing Reggie Has over DD is SPEED, GREASY FAST LIGHTNING QUICK SPEED!! Use Reggie 1st & 2nd downs DD on 3rd downs. That way maybe they will BOTH stay HEALTHY for a FULL SEASON!!!!! DD has always been hurt for a few weeks during the year, this may actually help him. Wells is OK in a PINCH but overall he is not a POWER RUNNER and way to SLOW to be an outside threat, and I don't remember any Blocks he made. Therefore he is EXPENDABLE. I don't see many TEAMS RUSHING to SIGN HIM what does that SAY???// To me it = Let the FB Block and the RB's RUN I would say WELLS is GONE unless no one signs him then maybe we will at a cheaper RATE!!!

NeViKaN
03-28-2006, 12:04 AM
I like quite a few of the moves recently... the only move I dislike is one player from our team from last year has not been signed. Granted, he was the best player the last few years (and behind a horrible O-line, how could you be). Last year, however, he showed me he has improved very well and did some good runs.

Bring back our 3rd backup to Bush and Davis... Bring back Jonathan Wells. You probably can get him for cheap.:texflag: :fans:

Trade DD and keep Wells and all would be well. He stays healthy, yardage is about the same and has similar speed to DD with a lot more weight. He punishes defences. I think he would fit great in the new system while DD runs to similar to 'The Pres.' don't need two of the same back. IMO