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thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 06:35 PM
What do you think?? Is there such a thing?? Do you think anyone will consider it??

Hookem Horns
03-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Here is the list, decide for yourself.... Actually now that I look at it, not too promising is it?

YEAR WINNER SCHOOL POSITION
2005 Reggie Bush Southern California RB
2004 Matt Leinart Southern California QB
2003 Jason White Oklahoma QB
2002 Carson Palmer Southern California QB
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska QB
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State QB
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin RB
1998 Ricky Williams Texas RB
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan DB/WR
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida QB
1995 Eddie George Ohio State RB
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado RB
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State QB
1992 Gino Torretta Miami QB
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan WR
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young QB
1989 Andre Ware Houston QB
1988 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State RB
1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame WR
1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami QB
1985 Bo Jackson Auburn RB
1984 Doug Flutie Boston College QB
1983 Mike Rozier Nebraska RB
1982 Herschel Walker Georgia RB
1981 Marcus Allen Southern California RB
1980 George Rogers South Carolina RB
1979 Charles White Southern California RB
1978 Billy Sims Oklahoma RB
1977 Earl Campbell Texas RB
1976 Tony Dorsett Pittsburgh RB
1975 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1974 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1973 John Cappelletti Penn State RB
1972 Johnny Rodgers Nebraska WR
1971 Pat Sullivan Auburn QB
1970 Jim Plunkett Stanford QB
1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma HB
1968 O.J. Simpson Southern California HB
1967 Gary Beban UCLA QB
1966 Steve Spurrier Florida QB
1965 Mike Garrett Southern California HB
1964 John Huarte Notre Dame QB
1963 Roger Staubach Navy QB
1962 Terry Baker Oregon State QB
1961 Ernie Davis Syracuse HB
1960 Joe Bellino Navy HB
1959 Billy Cannon LSU HB
1958 Pete Dawkins Army HB
1957 John David Crow Texas A&M HB
1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame QB
1955 Howard Cassady Ohio State HB
1954 Alan Ameche Wisconsin FB
1953 Johnny Lattner Notre Dame HB
1952 Billy Vessels Oklahoma HB
1951 Dick Kazmaier Princeton HB
1950 Vic Janowicz Ohio State HB
1949 Leon Hart Notre Dame E
1948 Doak Walker Southern Methodist HB
1947 Johnny Lujack Notre Dame QB
1946 Glenn Davis Army HB
1945 Doc Blanchard Army FB
1944 Les Horvath Ohio State QB/HB
1943 Angelo Bertelli Notre Dame QB
1942 Frank Sinkwich Georgia HB
1941 Bruce Smith Minnesota HB
1940 Tom Harmon Michigan HB
1939 Nile Kinnick Iowa HB
1938 Davey O'Brien Texas Christian QB
1937 Clint Frank Yale HB
1936 Larry Kelley Yale E
1935 Jay Berwanger Chicago HB

Big B Texan Fan
03-24-2006, 06:39 PM
from 92 on up i see more busts than non busts

tulexan
03-24-2006, 06:53 PM
It's not as bad as the Madden curse

texasguy346
03-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Here's the first overall picks from 1992 to 2005 as well:

2005 Alex Smith
2004 Eli Manning
2003 Carson Palmer
2002 David Carr
2001 Micheal Vick
2000 Courtney Brown
1999 Tim Couch
1998 Peyton Manning
1997 Orlando Pace
1996 Keyshawn Johnson
1995 Ki-Jana Carter
1994 Dan Wilkinson
1993 Drew Bledsoe
1992 Steve Emtman

There are quite a few busts in the #1 spot over that period of time. Does that mean there could be a number one overall pick curse? No, but it does mean that picking the best player in college football every season is sort of a crap shoot whether it be for the Heisman Trophy or for the #1 pick. Sometimes you strike gold, and sometimes you find a real dud.

Huge
03-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Considering its (intended) purpose is to award the best collegiate football and not the player with the most pro potential, no...I don't believe there to be a curse that anybody should be concerned about.

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 09:15 PM
YEAR WINNER SCHOOL POSITION

2004 Matt Leinart Southern California QB
2003 Jason White Oklahoma QB
2002 Carson Palmer Southern California QB
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska QB
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State QB
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida QB
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State QB
1992 Gino Torretta Miami QB
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young QB
1989 Andre Ware Houston QB
1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami QB
1984 Doug Flutie Boston College QB
1971 Pat Sullivan Auburn QB
1970 Jim Plunkett Stanford QB
1967 Gary Beban UCLA QB
1966 Steve Spurrier Florida QB
1964 John Huarte Notre Dame QB
1963 Roger Staubach Navy QB
1962 Terry Baker Oregon State QB
1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame QB
1947 Johnny Lujack Notre Dame QB
1944 Les Horvath Ohio State QB/HB
1943 Angelo Bertelli Notre Dame QB
1938 Davey O'Brien Texas Christian QB


The curse only applies to QBs........

Edit: Sorry, I got that wrong......... according to Google, it applies to all Heisman winners....

Nighthawk
03-24-2006, 09:52 PM
The curse only applies to QBs........

Edit: Sorry, I got that wrong......... according to Google, it applies to all Heisman winners....

Vince Young can count his lucky stars he didn't win it.

texasguy346
03-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Is Carson Palmer cursed because he won the Heisman? If he is then please give me the Heisman curse.

Can't put much stock into a curse if some players succeed & some players falter. The Curse of the Bambino wouldn't have been so interesting if the Red Sox had won the W.S. 3 or 4 times during the span between they traded him & when they finally won it in 2004. It was the fact that they'd gone with 0 World Series championships during that time that made it seem like a more plausible curse. If every Heisman winner went on to be a flop in the pros, or even if the last 30 Heisman winners went on to fall flat on their face then you could start calling it the Heisman curse. As it is now it's got no real merit, IMO.

Hookem Horns
03-25-2006, 05:22 PM
The curse only applies to QBs........


How many flop running backs are on that list? I see a ton.

tulexan
03-25-2006, 05:33 PM
A lot of the running backs have been pretty effective pro's.

Eddie George
Bo Jackson
Barry Sanders
Marcus Allen
Ricky Williams
Tony Dorsett
Earl Campbell
Herschel Walker