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big homey
03-23-2006, 10:30 PM
I just saw it on the NFL Network crawler. I can't find any online reports, however. They said it was something like a 3 year, $9 million deal.

EDIT: From kffl.com

Texans | Team agrees to terms with Flanagan
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:21:02 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans have reached a contract agreement with free agent OC Mike Flanagan (Packers). He will sign a three-year deal worth about $9 million.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Mightymike
03-23-2006, 10:30 PM
I just saw it on the NFL Network crawler. I can't find any online reports, however. They said it was something like a 3 year, $9 million deal.

we signed him?
i just found a link
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9331877

Bubbajwp
03-23-2006, 10:30 PM
Sounds like a good deal if its true.

texansfan1974
03-23-2006, 10:31 PM
With us?

Mightymike
03-23-2006, 10:32 PM
With us?


yup

big homey
03-23-2006, 10:33 PM
With us?
That's what I saw/heard. If anyone else can verify it, please do.

Mightymike
03-23-2006, 10:33 PM
With us?


YESSSSSIR

samomin
03-23-2006, 10:37 PM
Texans | Team agrees to terms with Flanagan
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:21:02 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans have reached a contract agreement with free agent OC Mike Flanagan (Packers). He will sign a three-year deal worth about $9 million.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9331877

PapaL
03-23-2006, 10:38 PM
Maybe this will squash some of these crazy threads we've had around here. Yes we did get one new linemen.

texman8
03-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Fantastic!! Now, if we can sign Neal...that will make for a very good FA season...........Probably means Wade is gone after June 1.

el toro
03-23-2006, 10:43 PM
Wow, you mean the front office has been after free agent linemen?

Anyways, great news. Maybe they can pick up another and find a quality OT or OG prospect at #33.

The Dude Abides
03-23-2006, 10:43 PM
So I'm assuming our O-Line as of today is...
LT-Pitts
LG-McKinney
C-Flanagan
RG-Wiegert
RT-Wade

I'm also thinking Wade gets cut, but we'll see.

Porky
03-23-2006, 10:47 PM
A real center. Yessss! :yahoo:

mike230765
03-23-2006, 10:49 PM
All I can say is WOW.

We are actually starting to act like a franchise that is really focused on turning things around quickly.


Great Job guys, keep it going in a good direction!!!!!!!!!!!! :ok:

gtexan02
03-23-2006, 10:50 PM
more verification:
per kffl.com:
Texans | Team agrees to terms with Flanagan
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:21:02 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans have reached a contract agreement with free agent OC Mike Flanagan (Packers). He will sign a three-year deal worth about $9 million.

PapaL
03-23-2006, 10:50 PM
more verification:
per kffl.com:
Texans | Team agrees to terms with Flanagan
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:21:02 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans have reached a contract agreement with free agent OC Mike Flanagan (Packers). He will sign a three-year deal worth about $9 million.

10 minutes late, check out the first post.

TexansMVP
03-23-2006, 10:51 PM
Things are looking good this offseason so far. :redtowel:

kcwilson
03-23-2006, 10:51 PM
With us?

Yeah, with us. Given our track record, you almost just have to question his judgement.

Sarcasm aside... I am excited and think that CC and company did a great job in getting an impact player to help... our blindside protection is much better now.

Texas
03-23-2006, 10:52 PM
Thank you god. I had no idea we were even that in depth talking with a free agent OL. This is great news. Now we have a center who can really hold up. One more OL man and I will feel our Line has been greatly improved!

texansfan1974
03-23-2006, 10:52 PM
This is awesome,:yahoo: we are starting to come togather.:redtowel:

dat_boy_yec
03-23-2006, 10:54 PM
Fantastic!! Now, if we can sign Neal...that will make for a very good FA season...........Probably means Wade is gone after June 1.

Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but he canceled his visit to Houston because he reached an agreement with the Patriots. However this is still a good season.

run-david-run
03-23-2006, 10:54 PM
Now, if we could add someone like Cowart and ressurect the Burelson deal....

Is that excitment im feeling? Boy, we sure do forget easily....

The Dude Abides
03-23-2006, 10:56 PM
Mike Flanagan - Green Bay Packers Website
At A Glance

Had season-ending surgery Oct. 7, 2004, to alleviate recurring knee tendinitis after the level of pain became unmanageable for him. Though the decision to undergo surgery limited him to three regular-season games a year ago, it also likely prevented him from suffering a more serious, career-threatening injury down the line
Overcoming the long shadow of injury early in his professional career, had built a games-played streak of 82 (87 counting playoffs) prior to having his 2004 season cut short by knee tendinitis issue
During the 2001-03 seasons when he was an every-game starter, Green Bay allowed an NFL-low 68 sacks. Culminated that successful three-year stretch by making his first Pro Bowl following the ’03 campaign – the first Packers center to be named to the all-star squad since 1996
Had current Packers head coach Mike Sherman as his offensive line coach for one season (1994) at UCLA
Married the former Jen Gray this past offseason (May 21, 2005)
An avid reader, he especially enjoys spy and historical novels

Obviously we got a good pickup since he enjoys spy novels.

http://www.packers.com/pdfs/flanagan05.pdf
For more info on him. The Link Above

Bubbajwp
03-23-2006, 10:58 PM
10 minutes late, check out the first post.
Reread his post he said more varification. Its the first line.

dat_boy_yec
03-23-2006, 11:00 PM
Aww man our line looks way more solid now. I think this takes alot of pressure off from having to draft a lineman and having to play him. I could see us drafting a lineman now and letting him develop. I am also glad by this signing because it gives Hodgdon a chance to develop as well.

Jerry
03-23-2006, 11:02 PM
:yahoo:

el toro
03-23-2006, 11:03 PM
There should be a couple of decent lineman prospects at #33. Of course, there are plenty of quality prospects at other positions.

This signing provides less of a reason to think about trading the #1 and more of a reason to take Bush.

Mike Kerns
03-23-2006, 11:05 PM
:yahoo:

uhcougar08
03-23-2006, 11:06 PM
So I'm assuming our O-Line as of today is...
LT-Pitts
LG-McKinney
C-Flanagan
RG-Wiegert
RT-Wade

I'm also thinking Wade gets cut, but we'll see.

Let's add Eric Winston at LT and move Pitts to RT.......That will be sweet!!!!

Carr Bombed
03-23-2006, 11:06 PM
When people kept crying, whining, and acting like they were going to jump off a bridge, I kept telling them hold on FA is a long process and the only thing you do by being active early on is overpaying for avg. talent-see Titans.

Now we have a real Center, a real TE, a solid DE that should help in the running game, and added depth to our recieving core with a young prospect.

and we still have the draft to make further improvements to this Oline and this team :yahoo:

#1,#33, #66, and #67- we are going to get some players

Slow, but steady and patient is the way to go

I'm really getting excited about next year. :redtowel:

The Dude Abides
03-23-2006, 11:07 PM
Well since everybody else is doing it. :yahoo:

keyfro
03-23-2006, 11:09 PM
this is a very good sign for us...not only does it give us a ligit center but it gives hodgdon someone to learn from for a couple of years and then to replace without a problem...now only if we can get eric winston at 33rd we'll have our line set

Section 620
03-23-2006, 11:12 PM
Take that all you gloom and doom spreaders...... :redtowel:

dat_boy_yec
03-23-2006, 11:13 PM
why not?:yahoo: :yahoo: :redtowel: :yahoo:

Carr Bombed
03-23-2006, 11:15 PM
this is a very good sign for us...not only does it give us a ligit center but it gives hodgdon someone to learn from for a couple of years

and to add to that he is also the guy that called all the asignments on "Shermans" line and knows what Sherman wants.

His mere presence and knowledge is going to help this line tremendously

Its another Coach/Player connection

TexansFanatic
03-23-2006, 11:20 PM
The following from the Packer website:

* Had season-ending surgery Oct. 7, 2004, to alleviate recurring knee tendinitis after the level of pain became unmanageable for him. Though the decision to undergo surgery limited him to three regular-season games a year ago, it also likely prevented him from suffering a more serious, career-threatening injury down the line
* Overcoming the long shadow of injury early in his professional career, had built a games-played streak of 82 (87 counting playoffs) prior to having his 2004 season cut short by knee tendinitis issue
* During the 2001-03 seasons when he was an every-game starter, Green Bay allowed an NFL-low 68 sacks. Culminated that successful three-year stretch by making his first Pro Bowl following the ’03 campaign – the first Packers center to be named to the all-star squad since 1996
* Had current Packers head coach Mike Sherman as his offensive line coach for one season (1994) at UCLA
* Married the former Jen Gray this past offseason (May 21, 2005)
* An avid reader, he especially enjoys spy and historical novels


1996 Green Bay Packers 0 0
1997 Green Bay Packers 0 0
1998 Green Bay Packers 2 0
1999 Green Bay Packers 15 0
2000 Green Bay Packers 16 2
2001 Green Bay Packers 16 16
2002 Green Bay Packers 16 13
2003 Green Bay Packers 16 16
2004 Green Bay Packers 3 3
2005 Green Bay Packers 14 14
TOTAL 98 64

This guy missed a helluva lot of games early in his career. Maybe hope for Joppru after all?

run-david-run
03-23-2006, 11:24 PM
Now, what are some of the predictions for next season's line? I see 3 differant possibilities.

1. Draft Eric Winston-Pitts, McKinney, Flannegan, Weigert, Winston

2. Draft Davin Joseph- Pitts, McKinney, Flannegan, Joseph, Weigert/Wade

3. Draft Abdul Hodge/ other non-Olineman- Pitts McKinney, Flannegan, Weigert, Wade.

The biggest question mark in this equation is Wade, as long as everyone else is healthy...right now the only thing keeping him in the lineup is his paycheck...

Rovator
03-23-2006, 11:26 PM
Since it it looks like he only started 2 of his first 33 games, it wouldn't surprise me if he missed all those games because he was a practice squad or bench guy until he finally got his chance.

TexansNeedRBin05
03-23-2006, 11:28 PM
This is a GREAT singing! :drool: I am so happy this guy is going to help us ALOT! I bet David Carr is sitting at home thanking god for this. As for the 33rd pick I think Winston if he's there we should take him or tradeup and get Marcus Mcneil or that USC Tackle. This is a HELL of a signing and its look good for Houston:yahoo: !

TexanFan881
03-23-2006, 11:28 PM
Very happy we got him :yahoo:

jacquescas
03-23-2006, 11:29 PM
This is a coup. This makes the Sherman signing even more worth it. if we can pull neal it will be fantastic.

Carr Bombed
03-23-2006, 11:31 PM
If our line pulls together I'm going to start calling it "Sherman's Tank", sounds cool. :cool:

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 11:34 PM
YAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!:yahoo: :yahoo: ..........:yahoo: :yahoo:

texman8
03-23-2006, 11:36 PM
Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but he canceled his visit to Houston because he reached an agreement with the Patriots. However this is still a good season.

Dagummit! Pats have been pretty passive this offseason.

texman8
03-23-2006, 11:39 PM
Now, if we could add someone like Cowart and ressurect the Burelson deal....

Is that excitment im feeling? Boy, we sure do forget easily....

Heard Texans gave Cowart a contract offer....he's still shopping.

Carr Bombed
03-23-2006, 11:41 PM
:rofl: only Texan fans can get this excited about signing a Offensive Lineman

dalemurphy
03-23-2006, 11:43 PM
:yahoo:

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 11:44 PM
:rofl: only Texan fans can get this excited about signing a Offensive Lineman
He is rated in the 90's in Madden. Of course the worst o-line ever is improved, therefore, the team is improved. Ergo, many draft trolls will leave(the guys that post only disses and praises for Reggie or Vince).

I can tell you no man is happier than David Carr today.

Mightymike
03-23-2006, 11:44 PM
This is a coup. This makes the Sherman signing even more worth it. if we can pull neal it will be fantastic.

he's not comin, he's resignin with pats for sure

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-23-2006, 11:45 PM
this is a very good sign for us...not only does it give us a ligit center but it gives hodgdon someone to learn from for a couple of years and then to replace without a problem...now only if we can get eric winston at 33rd we'll have our line set

Eric Winston would be an awesome fit and should be there around that time. I knew if we got Flanigan huge improvement. THE GENERAL HAS ARRIVED!!!

It is the direction of the center that orchestrates the blocking assignments and possible blitz's so now with him at the wheel, CARR will be more comfortable (should be) and will get some protection.

I AM EXCITED!!!

Koolbrz
03-23-2006, 11:50 PM
:yahoo: :ok: :highfive: :whoohoo: Reggie is gonna have a hell of a line blocking for him!!!! Can't wait for the season to begin!!

kcwilson
03-23-2006, 11:52 PM
BREAKING NEWS:

The Texans have decided to sell advertising space on David Carr's back this year as it ought to be able to be seen a lot more.

Texans Pride
03-23-2006, 11:55 PM
Does anyone have a bio or player analysis on Mr. Flanagan?

Big78
03-23-2006, 11:57 PM
wait so is he a Texan or is he a PATRIOT??!!! Which is it? I MUST KNOW!!!:confused: :confused:

Koolbrz
03-23-2006, 11:57 PM
Does anyone have a bio or player analysis on Mr. Flanagan?


See page 2..there is some info on the guy.

Koolbrz
03-23-2006, 11:58 PM
wait so is he a Texan or is he a PATRIOT??!!! Which is it? I MUST KNOW!!!:confused: :confused:



HE IS A TEXAN!!!!:yahoo:

Paragon Blue
03-23-2006, 11:58 PM
I'm officially excited:texflag: :texans: :redtowel: :jam:

Big78
03-23-2006, 11:59 PM
Then why are people saying he is with the Pats? ITS SO CONFUSING! im only a child, you cant play with my heart like this.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-23-2006, 11:59 PM
I went to the packers website and here is a link to a complete bio.

http://www.packers.com/pdfs/flanagan05.pdf

Kaiser Toro
03-24-2006, 12:00 AM
BREAKING NEWS:

The Texans have decided to sell advertising space on David Carr's back this year as it ought to be able to be seen a lot more.

This is due to the Texans having preached that DC fall forward when he sacks himself rather than going fetal. :rolleyes:

Koolbrz
03-24-2006, 12:00 AM
Then why are people saying he is with the Pats? ITS SO CONFUSING! im only a child, you cant play with my heart like this.


Talking about another guy...

Texans Pride
03-24-2006, 12:00 AM
See page 2..there is some info on the guy.


Yeah I got that he was married in 05 and likes spy novels. . . I was looking for something more along the lines about his football career...strengths and weaknesses. :)

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:00 AM
wait so is he a Texan or is he a PATRIOT??!!! Which is it? I MUST KNOW!!!:confused: :confused:
Flanagan-us
Stephen Neal-Pats
Knowing McKinney will no longer be our C- Priceless

For everyone else, their is a better GM.

Johnny Utah
03-24-2006, 12:01 AM
Does anyone have a bio or player analysis on Mr. Flanagan?

ESPN has him rated as the 7th best center in the NFL.
1 Olin Kreutz 86
2 Matt Birk 82
3 Jeff Saturday 79
4 Jeremy Newberry 78
5 Kevin Mawae 76
6 Dominic Raiola 75
7 Mike Flanagan 75

Comment:
He shows that he has the foot quickness to get up to the second level not only block linebackers but sustain his blocks. He has good use of his hands and excels in situations where he can block back and take advantage of blocking angles. He plays a very intelligent game in the middle and he makes all of the pre-snap calls and adjustment and he rarely makes a mistake. He has good strength in his hands and locks on very well. He is very consistent with his snap in the shotgun formation and he shows great ability to pass off and pick up with his guards to handle line stunts and blitzes. The most outstanding part of his game is his footwork and his movement. He lacks ideal strength and he will have difficulty with a big defender in the gap or on his nose that has good bulk and explosive charge. He seldom gets beat badly however he does not get a lot of movement in that situation.

Koolbrz
03-24-2006, 12:02 AM
Yeah I got that he was married in 05 and likes spy novels. . . I was looking for something more along the lines about his football career...strengths and weaknesses. :)


see page 3...there is a link there with some more info.

F-minus67
03-24-2006, 12:02 AM
all we need now is sign a few LBs and another Tackle and we'll be on our way to repectablity.

TexansNeedRBin05
03-24-2006, 12:03 AM
I think they moved Matt Birk to Tackle? :brickwall

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12216

SO HES 6TH! :drool:

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:03 AM
Who is Dominic Raiola? Why have I never heard of him? What is the square root of infinity?

done88
03-24-2006, 12:03 AM
:rofl: only Texan fans can get this excited about signing a Offensive Lineman
Weve been asking for lineman since the Tony project. After all the promise that came with him and failure that followed. This could be the biggest FA signing in the Texans short history.

tiger06
03-24-2006, 12:03 AM
Nice move :yahoo:

O.G.
03-24-2006, 12:04 AM
Thank you god. I had no idea we were even that in depth talking with a free agent OL. This is great news. Now we have a center who can really hold up. One more OL man and I will feel our Line has been greatly improved!

Yeah, we can't forget that Tom Ashworth is schedule to visit as well. We ink him to shore up that right side, then we have address a majoirty of our major needs besides MLB which Polk or Orr can play and we can draft a descent receiver, corner, safety, etc, Outstanding pickup!

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:04 AM
I think they moved Matt Birk to Tackle? :brickwall

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12216

SO HES 6TH! :drool:
Speaking of Birk, he wanted out of Minnesota. Why didn't we try to get him?

I'm amazed at how many people are posting at 11 PM. Is everyone else watching UT v. WV?

Buzz
03-24-2006, 12:04 AM
I honestly didn't think they would get this guy, I'm impressed :thumbup
I hope the "coach/player connection" that seems to be helping us keeps working in our favor.

Big78
03-24-2006, 12:06 AM
ESPN has him rated as the 7th best center in the NFL.
1 Olin Kreutz 86
2 Matt Birk 82
3 Jeff Saturday 79
4 Jeremy Newberry 78
5 Kevin Mawae 76
6 Dominic Raiola 75
7 Mike Flanagan 75

Thats right, who needs Lecharles Bentley and his expensive butt, we got MIKE FLANAGAN!!!:redtowel:
BTW, where is Bentley rated in this list?

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-24-2006, 12:07 AM
Speaking of Birk, he wanted out of Minnesota. Why didn't we try to get him?

I'm amazed at how many people are posting at 11 PM. Is everyone else watching UT v. WV?


HEADCASE!!!!

Koolbrz
03-24-2006, 12:07 AM
http://www.packers.com/pdfs/flanagan05.pdf

here is a link to his complete bio...

Carr Bombed
03-24-2006, 12:08 AM
Weve been asking for lineman since the Tony project. After all the promise that came with him and failure that followed. This could be the biggest FA signing in the Texans short history.

I know, I've been here since the beginning

Big78
03-24-2006, 12:09 AM
Who is Dominic Raiola? Why have I never heard of him? What is the square root of infinity?
I think he plays for ATL. not positive though.

Johnny Utah
03-24-2006, 12:09 AM
Thats right, who needs Lecharles Bentley and his expensive butt, we got MIKE FLANAGAN!!!:redtowel:
BTW, where is Bentley rated in this list?

Yikes, I missed Bentley. That has to be last year's rankings.

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:09 AM
HEADCASE!!!!
Moi?:)

TheRealJoker
03-24-2006, 12:10 AM
This is our greatest offseason in our short history!!!

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-24-2006, 12:11 AM
http://www.packers.com/pdfs/flanagan05.pdf

here is a link to his complete bio...


Being a Bear fan for many years, I have witnessed his play first hand. He reminds me of our general in Olin. Man he can command. Don't forget, he led the line that protected Favre for so many years. He knows how to gel a line to be one body. David Carr is going to be best friends with Flanigan!!!

I made a comment earlier that I heard Favre was staying this year to play, but that was before he lost Flanny to the Texans...

I predict Favre will not return now. The front office is demolishing his line. He lost two last year and not the center. no way jose!!!

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-24-2006, 12:12 AM
Moi?:)
Not you

BIRK from minnesota

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:15 AM
Not you

BIRK from minnesota
Cool.

Favre will not come back if it was up to me. he said he wanted the Packers to show that they want him by bing active in the offseason. So far, they've done............:confused:

run-david-run
03-24-2006, 12:18 AM
Boy, this, in a large combination with Kenton Paulino, has made my night

Carr Bombed
03-24-2006, 12:19 AM
Cool.

Favre will not come back if it was up to me. he said he wanted the Packers to show that they want him by bing active in the offseason. So far, they've done............:confused: I think thats because they don't want him back, they just can't tell him that, He's a god in that town.

Actions speak louder then words.

New coach

not active in FA

they are ready to move on with Rodgers

el toro
03-24-2006, 12:20 AM
It's nice to be a fan of a team with some sense of direction for a change. Well, upward, that is.

TheTim5125
03-24-2006, 12:25 AM
ok were getting there... starting to get excited for the season...

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:26 AM
It's nice to be a fan of a team with some sense of direction for a change. Well, upward, that is.
Where is Ihategeeks?

JAXwithanX
03-24-2006, 12:26 AM
Meanwhile, former Green Bay Packer center Mike Flanagan has agreed to a three-year contract with the Texans valued at $9 million, his agent told Houston television station KRIV Thursday night.

"You have to attribute Mike Sherman's relationship with Mike Flanagan as having significant impact," agent Jim Steiner told the station. Sherman, a Texan assistant coach, formerly coached at Green Bay.

Tony Wyllie, spokesman for the Texans, did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press Thursday night.

from ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2381167 3/4 down page

texanfan2002114
03-24-2006, 12:30 AM
Boy, this, in a large combination with Kenton Paulino, has made my night


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:

The Dude Abides
03-24-2006, 12:31 AM
from ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2381167 3/4 down page

"You have to attribute Mike Sherman's relationship with Mike Flanagan as having significant impact," agent Jim Steiner told the station. Sherman, a Texan assistant coach, formerly coached at Green Bay.

All right Sherman!

Texans Pride
03-24-2006, 12:34 AM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:


Agree with that? who is that guy?

mexican_texan
03-24-2006, 12:35 AM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:
Add to the fact that Duke is out and so is Gonzaga

Kenton Paulino made the game winning 3 for Texas.

BTW, Morrison is just bawling right now. his tears are ruining his trademark weak mustache.

2 CENTS
03-24-2006, 01:23 AM
I was GLAD we GOT PUTZ!!! but I am really Glad we have a REAL CENTER!!!!! That is the best news I have Heard in Free Agency so far. If we could get one more Offensive Tackle or Gaurd in FA I would be one Happy Camper!! The NY Jets now have 2 First Round Picks. They need a RB as C. Martin is getting long in the Tooth. I see us Trading Down to #4 Taking VY and getting the Jets # 29 Pick in the first Round Taking (OT Eric Winston) and RB Joseph ADAI with pick # 33 or Gaurd Max Jean Gillis.

el toro
03-24-2006, 01:28 AM
I was GLAD we GOT PUTZ!!! but I am really Glad we have a REAL CENTER!!!!! That is the best news I have Heard in Free Agency so far. If we could get one more Offensive Tackle or Gaurd in FA I would be one Happy Camper!! The NY Jets now have 2 First Round Picks. They need a RB as C. Martin is getting long in the Tooth. I see us Trading Down to #4 Taking VY and getting the Jets # 29 Pick in the first Round Taking (OT Eric Winston) and RB Joseph ADAI with pick # 33 or Gaurd Max Jean Gillis.


I don't see the Jets doing that, but if they did, for argument's sake, then put the #29 and #33 together and try to move up high enough to take LenDale White.

Anyways, at this point it looks like it's Bush at #1. Fine by me.

O.G.
03-24-2006, 01:31 AM
I was GLAD we GOT PUTZ!!! but I am really Glad we have a REAL CENTER!!!!! That is the best news I have Heard in Free Agency so far. If we could get one more Offensive Tackle or Gaurd in FA I would be one Happy Camper!! The NY Jets now have 2 First Round Picks. They need a RB as C. Martin is getting long in the Tooth. I see us Trading Down to #4 Taking VY and getting the Jets # 29 Pick in the first Round Taking (OT Eric Winston) and RB Joseph ADAI with pick # 33 or Gaurd Max Jean Gillis.

I could see that, but why draft a running back in the second when we still have Morency? If that scenario were to happen, I would like to see them pick up a good corner with that pick of DE like Daryl Tapp from Virginia Tech

O.G.
03-24-2006, 01:33 AM
I don't see the Jets doing that, but if they did, for argument's sake, then put the #29 and #33 together and try to move up high enough to take LenDale White.

Anyways, at this point it looks like it's Bush at #1. Fine by me.

I could go for picking Bush as well, lol.

Tejaspro
03-24-2006, 01:35 AM
I was GLAD we GOT PUTZ!!! but I am really Glad we have a REAL CENTER!!!!! That is the best news I have Heard in Free Agency so far. If we could get one more Offensive Tackle or Gaurd in FA I would be one Happy Camper!! The NY Jets now have 2 First Round Picks. They need a RB as C. Martin is getting long in the Tooth. I see us Trading Down to #4 Taking VY and getting the Jets # 29 Pick in the first Round Taking (OT Eric Winston) and RB Joseph ADAI with pick # 33 or Gaurd Max Jean Gillis.

There is no way that the Texans are going to trade down. They are taking Reggie Bush. He sells tickets. Every defensive game plan will have to be concerned with not only Andre Johnson, DD, etc, but also will have to cover Bush. And you can bet Kubiak will line him up all over the field. His versatility will make every defensive coordinator have nightmares. The fact that they brought in Flanagan, Putzier, and the other free agents takes the pressure off of the Texans moving down. They will draft young talent to develope. Bush, however, does not need much development. IMHO.:redtowel:

stevo3883
03-24-2006, 01:48 AM
IMO this is our best acquisition as a franchise.

now if we could somehow land javon walker, even for 1 season, we could be in contention in the division.

281
03-24-2006, 01:54 AM
A real center while we groom Hodgdon.

:yahoo:

stevo3883
03-24-2006, 01:57 AM
A real center while we groom Hodgdon.

:yahoo:


i think the fans are expecting too much from hodgdon. he was a 5th rounder with limited experience.

it was scary that he was possibly going to be our starter going into the season.

texasguy346
03-24-2006, 03:04 AM
Glad to hear that we signed Flanagan. He'll definately improve the interior of our OLine, and McKinney can stay as LG where he has a chance to earn the money he's getting paid. I'm starting to get excited about next season, and by landing key free agents at need positions it allows us to be more flexible come draft day.

Betro
03-24-2006, 05:25 AM
Yikes, I missed Bentley. That has to be last year's rankings.
Yeah it has to be cuz Newberry has been injured too much to be that high.
This is a great signing, I can't wait for the draft!

whiskeyrbl
03-24-2006, 05:30 AM
Nice upgrade without breaking the bank. Nice,Very nice.

Grid
03-24-2006, 05:49 AM
i think the fans are expecting too much from hodgdon. he was a 5th rounder with limited experience.

it was scary that he was possibly going to be our starter going into the season.


5th round is the norm for Olinemen. Expecting him to be our future starter is not expecting too much. All your starters cant be first day picks.

This is a great move because it gives us time to groom Hodgdon as a replacement.. or, it gives us time to evaluate him and see if we need to draft a new center.


This is quite possibly the best move we have ever made in Free Agency. No, it definatly is the best move. This is EXACTLY what our Oline needed (this, and Sherman).

BTW.. to get an idea of Flanagan's abilities.. he probably would have been rated as one of the top 5 centers in the league 2-3 years ago.. but when Green Bay lost BOTH of their guards in one season, obviously, Flanagan didnt look quite as good.

This guy is experienced, and talented.. two things we have lacked at center for far too long. No offense to Mckinney. McKinney is gonna be an awesome LG for us.

Snapple
03-24-2006, 05:51 AM
Yes!

To everyone who said people are going out of their way to complain about every personnel move, well, I don't think that's true, at least not with me. I don't like a lot of the things we've done in the past, and some of the things we've done so far this off-season have been questionabel.

But when my prayers to get a veteran, competant O-lineman playing his real position are finally answered, how can I be anything but completely and totally positive?

Woohoo!:yahoo:

Second best thing to happen tonight after Paulino's three. Far, far distant second, but a good thing nonetheless.

HJam72
03-24-2006, 06:09 AM
The Texans offense will never be the same again. They won't lead the league in sacks allowed again for a very long time. Flanagan is just one of the reasons, but a big one. :yahoo:

TEXANRED
03-24-2006, 08:22 AM
YEEEAAAAAAAAA:yahoo:

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 08:36 AM
Things are looking good this offseason so far. :redtowel:

Ohhhhh.........yeeaaahhhh.....

first we get Sherman, now Flanagan........... chances of us getting Bret Favre is looking better every day....

There should be a couple of decent lineman prospects at #33. Of course, there are plenty of quality prospects at other positions.

This signing provides less of a reason to think about trading the #1 and more of a reason to take Bush.

Or another position that isn't necessarily a need....




Now we have a real Center, a real TE, a solid DE that should help in the running game, and added depth to our recieving core with a young prospect.

:redtowel:

Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

HJam72
03-24-2006, 08:43 AM
If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Casserly studied up on it for us. He watched some films. :ok:

texan279
03-24-2006, 08:52 AM
Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Favre was only sacked 27 times last season...

TexansCM
03-24-2006, 08:56 AM
ESPN link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2382179

Flannagan had a major knee problem at the start of his career, Pack didn't give up on him.

Kaiser Toro
03-24-2006, 08:56 AM
Once again the new staff is showing its value two fold - guys are following them from their past teams which is huge for a fledgling team who has difficulty attracting good players at the right value. Also it brings in guys who will be able to help with the schemes, lingo and execution.

Today is a good day for the Texans. :texflag:

TEXANS84
03-24-2006, 09:00 AM
Flanagan's stats, ie-sacks given up:

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=3618&Submit=Go

infantrycak
03-24-2006, 09:17 AM
Out of curiosity........ why do you think he's a "real" Center?? is that because of his experience in relation to Hogdon?? If I recall correctly, GB had QB protection problems like we did in 2005. Have we taken the time to identify where that weakness was, and conclude it wasn't at center??

I'm just asking, not trying to be beligerent or anything.

Prior to last season Green Bay's line was considered very solid. Last year they lost both their starting OG's in free agency and the line struggled more. Flannigan wasn't the problem.

nunusguy
03-24-2006, 09:21 AM
"A third-round choice in the 1996 draft, Flanagan suffered a ghastly right leg injury during the preseason of his rookie season. The injury was so severe, and required so much rehabilitation that Flanagan played in just two games during his first three seasons and started only twice in his first five years in the league."
The above from the ESPN story on the signing.
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I dunno......maybe there's still hope for Bennie Joppru having an NFL career ?

keyfro
03-24-2006, 09:28 AM
hey just a tib bit of info for you guys about our new center...back in 2003 the year the packers last won a playoff game and went to phili and lost that game...that year the packers offensive line was riddled with injuries and flanagan the team's center was forced to play left tackle...does anyone remember this...i remember it because i'm also a huge packers fan but anyways...i believe this was the year that clifton had been hit by sapp causing him the miss the rest of the season...anyways flanagan stepped in at LT and played the position very well...now i'm not saying move him to LT just saying it's nice to know that if pitts were to get hurt sherman would have the one guy he could move to LT with knowledge that he could hold his own

Vinny
03-24-2006, 09:31 AM
Wasn't he converted to Center? He is pretty tall for a center.

infantrycak
03-24-2006, 09:39 AM
Wasn't he converted to Center? He is pretty tall for a center.

Here is a great bio (http://www.packers.com/pdfs/flanagan05.pdf) for him. 2002 he started 6 games at center and 7 at LT plus played some at RG and TE. Sounds like a proven team leader. He must have played at least some LT in college as he came in to start for 9 games replacing an injured Jonathon Ogden.

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 09:51 AM
RB Joseph ADAI with pick # 33


I really like this guy........ wish I could see more of him.

el toro
03-24-2006, 09:56 AM
Or another position that isn't necessarily a need....



Bush is in the lineup on opening day if he's taken. If you take a QB then he's holding a clipboard, if that.

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 10:18 AM
Casserly studied up on it for us. He watched some films. :ok:

This is the way people who know what they are talking about answers questions:

BTW.. to get an idea of Flanagan's abilities.. he probably would have been rated as one of the top 5 centers in the league 2-3 years ago.. but when Green Bay lost BOTH of their guards in one season, obviously, Flanagan didnt look quite as good.

.
Prior to last season Green Bay's line was considered very solid. Last year they lost both their starting OG's in free agency and the line struggled more. Flannigan wasn't the problem.
:ok:


Favre was only sacked 27 times last season...

Finally, someone understands what a mobile QB (who can make plays while on the move) can do for a struggling offensive line......
Once again the new staff is showing its value two fold - guys are following them from their past teams which is huge for a fledgling team who has difficulty attracting good players at the right value. Also it brings in guys who will be able to help with the schemes, lingo and execution.

Today is a good day for the Texans. :texflag:

Does this also make him the senior guy on our team?? Nothing wrong with Veteran leadership..


Bush is in the lineup on opening day if he's taken. If you take a QB then he's holding a clipboard, if that.

What, I didn't say nut'n.....:stirpot:

Runner
03-24-2006, 10:23 AM
So I'm assuming our O-Line as of today is...
LT-Pitts
LG-McKinney
C-Flanagan
RG-Wiegert
RT-Wade

I'm also thinking Wade gets cut, but we'll see.

With who we have available now, I'd go with the following. Of course, nothing final until training camp.

LT-Wand
LG-McKinney (I'd still like and upgrade here, maybe even Weary).
C-Flanagan
RG-Weigert
RT-Pitts

Wade just doesn't have the skill set for the scheme.

Our tackles will look better with a real pocket in the center of the line.

2 CENTS
03-24-2006, 10:31 AM
Flanigan made the PRO BOWL, playing CENTER for the PACKERS !!!! ENOUGH SAID !!! for all you doubters!!!!!

SESupergenius
03-24-2006, 10:42 AM
Now hopefully this is a good signing, it's looks so on paper. Quality quy that has had some accomplishments on a playoff team. Should be a pretty good signal caller in the west coast style of offense. All we need is a really good RT or G and our line should be better, nothing earth shattering, but at least better.

Tailgate
03-24-2006, 10:59 AM
Great signing.... this gives us some MUCH needed depth.

Dunta_23
03-24-2006, 11:37 AM
Wow....I love the signing...greatly improved the Oline

1texan4life
03-24-2006, 11:49 AM
HALLELUJAH!!!

The football Gods have finally shined down upon us!

bigTEXan8
03-24-2006, 12:44 PM
Yeah!!!:yahoo: This is an excellent addition for the Texans. This already dramatically increases our strength along the o-line.

throwANDREtheBALL
03-24-2006, 12:54 PM
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)

Dunta_23
03-24-2006, 01:05 PM
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)

TJ will be a great player for us for many years to come...Its hard enough to crack a starting spot at DT in your rookie year let alone make the change to a 3-4 end where you often get double teamed...He was the highest rated DT in last years draft...we could have probably filled a bigger need but he isnt going to be a backup for long...He will be a good player.

bigTEXan8
03-24-2006, 01:05 PM
If his knees hold up for the whole season, he'll be our biggest upgrade.

So Far, anyways......hopefully we get some upgrades in the DRAFT too, and not some OVERRATED - BACKUP DT or some CB that can't tackle. (TJ & P-BURNT)

As fans, I think it's unfair to judge TJ, because we don't really know exactly what he can do since he rarely played. He'll be starting this year, so then I think we can judge him. It's my personal opinion that P-Buch will be better this upcoming year...hopefully.

throwANDREtheBALL
03-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round.


And hopefully a pass-rush is all that Buchanon needs to help him pick off 5+ passes this year. And someone slap him in the face before every game, so he's ready to tackle......do something to him. Or just tell him, that my little brother tackles better than him. Would that help ?

keyfro
03-24-2006, 01:49 PM
whatever throwANDREtheBALL...travis johnson was the highest rated DT in the draft last year...castillo ranking slipped a lot when he tested positive for steriods at the combine...also shows his lack of intelligence for taking the steriods before the combine...and shaun cody was a DE/DT tweener...there was no way he was rated higher than TJ...i'm not sure why some of ya'll are hating on TJ...it must be because he didn't have around 6 sacks last year right...well that shows that ya'll don't know anything about DE's in the 3-4 defense...they're not there to pick up sacks they're there to take up blockers...either way TJ was never going to fill the DE position on the 3-4 defense right...he was a one gap DT who reminds people of warren sapp...this year he should be at a position that suites his abilities

now for everyone worried about flanagan's knees or any other injuries think of it like this...if he goes down for a week or two it will give us a perfect situation to see if drew hodgdon will be capable of handling the starting job in a year or two...there is absolutely nothing wrong with the signing of mike flanagan

LBblitz
03-24-2006, 02:48 PM
"A third-round choice in the 1996 draft, Flanagan suffered a ghastly right leg injury during the preseason of his rookie season. The injury was so severe, and required so much rehabilitation that Flanagan played in just two games during his first three seasons and started only twice in his first five years in the league."
The above from the ESPN story on the signing.
*************************************************
I dunno......maybe there's still hope for Bennie Joppru having an NFL career ?
off topic but that kinda sounds like BJ...maybe he can turn it around to...wishfull thinking though.

TexanSam
03-24-2006, 03:09 PM
Great signing! Hopefully he stays healthy.

z0rpAn
03-24-2006, 03:15 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3745068.html

Its a good day! :yahoo: :redtowel:

Runner
03-24-2006, 03:20 PM
now for everyone worried about flanagan's knees or any other injuries think of it like this...if he goes down for a week or two it will give us a perfect situation to see if drew hodgdon will be capable of handling the starting job in a year or two...there is absolutely nothing wrong with the signing of mike flanagan

Now that's looking on the bright side. I thought the signing of a tight end raised the spirits of the board - with an o-lineman we're over the top!

JAXwithanX
03-24-2006, 03:21 PM
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round.

you pulled that directly from your ***.

Dunta_23
03-24-2006, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=throwANDREtheBALL]Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round....QUOTE]


http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/archive/2005/05rankings.html#dt

tulexan
03-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Castillo fell a little because of his admitted steroid use

TexanFan881
03-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Yah, I hear ya guys.

I hope Buchanon and Travis are stellar this year.

Hopefully Travis Johnson can show some of his supposed pass-rush skills in the 4-3 defense. And no, TJ wasn't the highest rated DT in last year's draft...Luis Castillo was the top DT on most teams lists, with DT Cody ahead of him as well.
.....many teams even had TJ rated late 2nd round....

In almost every mock I saw last year he was projected to get drafted by the Packers at #24. I haven't seen a mock yet with him not in the first round.

pv1999
03-24-2006, 04:01 PM
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.

TexanFan881
03-24-2006, 04:02 PM
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.

Because Larry Allen wants more money and he quickly signed with the 49ers.

Runner
03-24-2006, 04:04 PM
So will someone please explain to me again why we are excited about Darby o'Flannigan when Pro bowler Larry Allen was available? I am confused.

Because this is 2006, not 2002?

yourfavoritetexan42
03-24-2006, 04:05 PM
wayy too early to judge TJ.

As for the signing for Flanagan...couldn't find a better fit for the price, great sign.

As for Buch, you cannot say he is a complete failure...he had a down year...he had some up years in oakland... i think almost everyone (aside from Mathis) had a down year last year for the texans.

pv1999
03-24-2006, 04:14 PM
Because Larry Allen wants more money and he quickly signed with the 49ers.

Is he not worth the money?

Because this is 2006, not 2002?

What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?

jerek
03-24-2006, 04:14 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3745068.html

Its a good day! :yahoo: :redtowel:

Amen to that. I was excited to see Orr come on big last year and now that we resign him, the guy has a motor that doesn't stop. Polk did good things for us as well too.

Looking pretty good so far.

Runner
03-24-2006, 04:15 PM
Is he not worth the money?



What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?

Allen isn't the same player he used to be.

el toro
03-24-2006, 04:15 PM
What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?

Play center and play it well.

pv1999
03-24-2006, 04:15 PM
Allen isn' the same player he used to be.

...and Flannigan is?

TexanSam
03-24-2006, 04:17 PM
What has Flannigan done since 2002 that makes him a better pick up than Allen?

Let me ask you this, is there any offensive lineman on the roster that you think is better than Flanagan?

Runner
03-24-2006, 04:19 PM
...and Flannigan is?

You've convinced me. Now we need to pick up Nate Newton too. A perennial pro-bowler!

Well, maybe not. I just realized we might not need a bunch of power blockers in our zone blocking sceme.

I guess I'm still unconvinced.

Battle-Red
03-24-2006, 04:20 PM
"IMO this is our best acquisition as a franchise.

now if we could somehow land javon walker, even for 1 season, we could be in contention in the division."

I've been saying the same thing about Javon. He's comming off knee surgery, still has 1 year on his contract, but he wants out of greenbay. And he has numbers simialar too Andre and better than Burleson.

And as far as Flannigan:yahoo:

pv1999
03-24-2006, 04:23 PM
Let me ask you this, is there any offensive lineman on the roster that you think is better than Flanagan?

Squirrel Please.......Hells no.

But to me, there is no substitute for getting someone who has been the premier player at his position, the experience he could share with the young ones, thats what made the old O-Line from the Oilers great. Maybe Flannigan can do the same thing but in the prime of his game, he was no Larry Allen.

bdiddy
03-24-2006, 08:18 PM
Has anyone seen the story on the Texans homepage about the signing. Flanagan will provide much needed "depth." The guy is making $3 million a year, he better be our starting center. The only way he is not a starter is if Hodgdon has a rediculous training camp.

Lucky
03-24-2006, 08:26 PM
Has anyone seen the story on the Texans homepage about the signing. Flanagan will provide much needed "depth." The guy is making $3 million a year, he better be our starting center. The only way he is not a starter is if Hodgdon has a rediculous training camp.
You can't read the articles from the Texans site as if they are written by Kubiak. These guys are writers, not coaches.

texan279
03-24-2006, 08:28 PM
You can't read the articles from the Texans site as if they are written by Kubiak. These guys are writers, not coaches.

Not only that but since McKinney has moved to LG, if I remember correctly, Hodgdon was our only center, so now we have 2 centers, so we do have more depth at center technically lol.

outofhnd
03-24-2006, 08:50 PM
I think flanagan will start and mentor Hogdon during his tenure here. Perhaps Hogdon will unseat him in 2 years but thats the timeline im working on.

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Squirrel Please.......Hells no.

But to me, there is no substitute for getting someone who has been the premier player at his position, the experience he could share with the young ones, thats what made the old O-Line from the Oilers great. Maybe Flannigan can do the same thing but in the prime of his game, he was no Larry Allen.

Does Larry Allen play center?? If we were looking for a Center, would you like a ProBowl Center, would that make you happy?? (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0SO7CWOoSREuiMBVD9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB2dnY0Nm1 iBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZAM-/SIG=126fkpg7q/EXP=1143337742/**http%3a//www.nfl.com/probowl/2003/voting_110702.html)

texan279
03-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Does Larry Allen play center?? If we were looking for a Center, would you like a ProBowl Center, would that make you happy?? (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0SO7CWOoSREuiMBVD9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB2dnY0Nm1 iBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMgRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZAM-/SIG=126fkpg7q/EXP=1143337742/**http%3a//www.nfl.com/probowl/2003/voting_110702.html)

Larry Allen signed with the 49'ers and is making 1-2 million more a season than Flanagan is scheduled to make...

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 09:10 PM
Larry Allen signed with the 49'ers and is making 1-2 million more a season than Flanagan is scheduled to make...

and your point is........... ??

texan279
03-24-2006, 09:14 PM
and your point is........... ??

You were saying if we were looking for a center we should have looked at him. We were in talks with Flanagan before Allen was released, Allen is 3 years older than Flanagan, Allen commanded more money than Flanagan, and even though Allen has played center before, he is a guard.

Bobo
03-24-2006, 09:22 PM
Maybe this will squash some of these crazy threads we've had around here. Yes we did get one new linemen.

You mean one new old lineman.

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 09:33 PM
You were saying if we were looking for a center we should have looked at him. We were in talks with Flanagan before Allen was released, Allen is 3 years older than Flanagan, Allen commanded more money than Flanagan, and even though Allen has played center before, he is a guard.

uh....... no.... I quoted a dude x19994 or something like that, who didn't like the Flanagan signing... said we should've picked up Larry Allen. My point, was that Larry isn't a Center....... he's a gaurd...... he's been to the ProBowl as a gaurd.

Dude thought having Allen for his probowl experience was a plus...... In my post, the Words ProBowl(and some others) are actually a hypertext link embedded into the text. If you click on that link, you'll find a report of Flanagan beeing voted to the 2003 ProBowl as a center.....

texan279
03-24-2006, 09:35 PM
uh....... no.... I quoted a dude x19994 or something like that, who didn't like the Flanagan signing... said we should've picked up Larry Allen. My point, was that Larry isn't a Center....... he's a gaurd...... he's been to the ProBowl as a gaurd.

Dude thought having Allen for his probowl experience was a plus...... In my post, the Words ProBowl(and some others) are actually a hypertext link embedded into the text. If you click on that link, you'll find a report of Flanagan beeing voted to the 2003 ProBowl as a center.....

I misunderstood your post, sorry.

TexansTrueFan
03-24-2006, 09:52 PM
almost looks like a totally different team, what a make over.

Texans34Life
03-24-2006, 09:54 PM
I'm so glad the Texans are moving in the right direction. Great move by Kubiak and his squad.

Samer
03-24-2006, 11:26 PM
Im really liking this offseason, we are addressing needs that we should have address last year, a couple more signings and we are set

touttail
03-25-2006, 01:57 PM
Actually peed in my pants when I heard about Flannigan being picked up. We finally did something for our OLine! :sarcasm:

Bobby 119C

Erratic Assassin
03-25-2006, 06:44 PM
Had season-ending surgery Oct. 7, 2004, to alleviate recurring knee tendinitis after the level of pain became unmanageable for him.

long shadow of injury early in his professional career

having his 2004 season cut short by knee tendinitis issue

An older, injury-prone lineman...sounds familiar. He's not going to be much use to us sitting on the sidelines. At least we didn't overpay him. Let's hope things work out, but I'd wouldn't count on his tendinitis getting better as he gets older.

aj.
03-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Some Flanagan stuff from the GB perspective:

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_25317829.shtml

PapaL
03-25-2006, 09:44 PM
I didnt realize he is a 10 year vet, wow. Atleast he is "seasoned", lol. For some reason I thought he was NFL younger (under 30). Hopefully he can teach our young center something.

Texans_Chick
03-26-2006, 12:16 PM
Some Flanagan stuff from the GB perspective:

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_25317829.shtml


Thanks for the link. This is my favorite quote:

The Packers will miss Flanagan’s leadership and intelligence in the locker room as much as anything. He was one of the team’s best unofficial spokesmen and knew the ins and outs of the NFL after 10 years with the Packers.

I like his ability but I like the stuff in the quote better. The best teams have guys like this--really talented, really experienced guys who are leaders. This will make our QB position better and our line better.

Coaches can only do so much--the players need experienced guys they can rely on and maybe talk about the stuff they might be afraid to talk to coaches about.

aj.
03-26-2006, 12:31 PM
Hopefully some of that 'it' will rub off on our QB. :rolleyes:

Runner
03-26-2006, 12:39 PM
Hopefully some of that 'it' will rub off on our QB. :rolleyes:

I wanted to make a QB/Center joke here, but I'll restrain myself in the service of good taste.

aj.
03-26-2006, 12:54 PM
Sometimes humor is best disguised... it's more fun that way.

...but then again, sometimes humor is in the eye of the beholder.

Runner
03-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Sometimes humor is best disguised... it's more fun that way.

...but then again, sometimes humor is in the eye of the beholder.

Excellent! You identified my joke was in the description of not telling the joke.

pv1999
03-27-2006, 11:50 AM
uh....... no.... I quoted a dude x19994 or something like that, who didn't like the Flanagan signing... said we should've picked up Larry Allen. My point, was that Larry isn't a Center....... he's a gaurd...... he's been to the ProBowl as a gaurd.

Dude thought having Allen for his probowl experience was a plus...... In my post, the Words ProBowl(and some others) are actually a hypertext link embedded into the text. If you click on that link, you'll find a report of Flanagan beeing voted to the 2003 ProBowl as a center.....

So a 10 time probowler is not worth more money than a 10 year veteran who's been to the probowl?
My deal is not that we got Flannigan, my deal is that we didn't even look at Allen and if you go by what they have done on the field Allen is clearly the better choice, center, guard or whatever. We need a veteran to bring the young linemen we have up to snuff. Maybe Flannigan can, we will see, but you are a fool if you believe that we shouldn't at least have talked to Allen.

Ibar_Harry
03-27-2006, 12:22 PM
So a 10 time probowler is not worth more money than a 10 year veteran who's been to the probowl?
My deal is not that we got Flannigan, my deal is that we didn't even look at Allen and if you go by what they have done on the field Allen is clearly the better choice, center, guard or whatever. We need a veteran to bring the young linemen we have up to snuff. Maybe Flannigan can, we will see, but you are a fool if you believe that we shouldn't at least have talked to Allen.

They sought players based on the offense they are going to run. Brown was given up because he was a big plow type of player. Our offense features lighter more mobile people in the O-line. I believe Flannigan fits that mold plus he has a relationship with Sherman. He and Sherman have had some differences, but I suspect Sherman feels he will fit in in the O-line they are trying to field.

Texans Horror
03-27-2006, 01:49 PM
So the way I'm seeing it is

Wand...McKinney...Flannagan...Weigert...Pitts

I still think I prefer Pitts at LG, McKinney at RG, and Wade at Tackle, but there is room to shuffle people around, and they have a stronger line now. Another possibility would be to switch the tackles. Any way, I think they have much better protection inside.

pv1999
03-27-2006, 01:49 PM
They sought players based on the offense they are going to run. Brown was given up because he was a big plow type of player. Our offense features lighter more mobile people in the O-line. I believe Flannigan fits that mold plus he has a relationship with Sherman. He and Sherman have had some differences, but I suspect Sherman feels he will fit in in the O-line they are trying to field.

You are lost, you make way too much sense to be posting on this board. That is the best reason for not looking at Allen that I have heard. I hope Flannigan makes the probowl next year so we won't jump on Casserly like we did last year about his other personnel moves.