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fisherflo
03-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I was thinking about the upcoming season and as i was pondering I started to think.....when we go to play the cowgirls.....who is going to cover T.O.? What are the chances of our best defensive player (D-Rob)...doing it?

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-23-2006, 09:33 AM
I was thinking about the upcoming season and as i was pondering I started to think.....when we go to play the cowgirls.....who is going to cover T.O.? What are the chances of our best defensive player (D-Rob)...doing it?


Unless it is early in the season, I predict he will be hurt by midseason or Parcells will kick is #SS for getting out of line.

Sportsfan
03-23-2006, 09:53 AM
I'm kind of looking forward to the possible butting of heads between him and Parcells. Parcells won't be affraid to slap that ******-eating grin right off his face.

chuckm
03-23-2006, 09:56 AM
I'm kind of looking forward to the possible butting of heads between him and Parcells. Parcells won't be affraid to slap that ******-eating grin right off his face.


I'll go along with that ... :)

gtexan02
03-23-2006, 10:10 AM
For whatever reason, DRob has a history of covering the #2 receiver...

infantrycak
03-23-2006, 10:23 AM
For whatever reason, DRob has a history of covering the #2 receiver...

No, DRob has a history of covering one side of the field. The Texans, as did a majority of teams last season, assigned their CB's to a side of the field rather than based on a priority of WR's. Personally, I like the battle of the best CB against the best WR but lately NFL coaches have not.

TheOgre
03-23-2006, 10:25 AM
T.O. is older & wizer now... Along with the tuna's way of handling players... I give him one season of towing the line on the team... next yr.. big problems..

Exactly. Just like in Philly, he will be a model citizen for the Cowpokes. Come 2007, he will turn back into Mr. Hyde.

Big B Texan Fan
03-23-2006, 10:28 AM
For whatever reason, DRob has a history of covering the #2 receiver...
It's because we double man the #1 when in man coverage. Also the Defense V. Fangio ran was a left croner/right corner as far as the corners were concerned.

Regardless, it's time for D-Rob to cover the #1 in every game we play, with the exception of him blitzing. D'Angelo Hall covered T.O. in his match with the Eagles early last season. He practically shut him down. D-Rob is as good as Hall.

Mycco
03-23-2006, 10:30 AM
I'm not much of a T.O. fan like many others, but the truth is he'll torch our defense for at least 1 TD. Dunta will have his hands full w/ him, and in the end T.O.'s size and strength will be too much for him. Be prepared for his TD celebrations against the Texans to be replayed over and over on sportscenter.

You can wish all you want about him getting kicked off of the Cowboys, but the fact is, he got the money he wanted from Dallas, now he has something to prove to the rest of the league. Next year will be a different story, but as for this year expect him to put up the same kind of numbers he did his 1st year in Philly. It will be a long Sunday when the Cowboys and Texans meet this year, I hate to bring yall down, but that's just the way it is.

infantrycak
03-23-2006, 10:32 AM
D'Angelo Hall covered T.O. in his match with the Eagles early last season. He practically shut him down. D-Rob is as good as Hall.

Let's hope whoever the Texans put on TO can shut down TO better than Hall--7 rec. 112 yds.

Mycco
03-23-2006, 10:33 AM
It's because we double man the #1 when in man coverage. Also the Defense V. Fangio ran was a left croner/right corner as far as the corners were concerned.

Regardless, it's time for D-Rob to cover the #1 in every game we play, with the exception of him blitzing. D'Angelo Hall covered T.O. in his match with the Eagles early last season. He practically shut him down. D-Rob is as good as Hall.


Don't get me wrong...I think D.Rob can hold his own, and I'm sure he'll win a couple of matchups against T.O. when they meet, but D'angelo Hall is also a bigger more physical corner than D.Rob, just something else to keep in mind.

Trapped
03-23-2006, 10:33 AM
Regardless, it's time for D-Rob to cover the #1 in every game we play, with the exception of him blitzing. D'Angelo Hall covered T.O. in his match with the Eagles early last season. He practically shut him down. D-Rob is as good as Hall.

Shut him down Hall did not do, T.O had like 7 receptions 100+ yards that game. But he didn't have a touchdown so, in a way, i guess it's shutting him down???

Malloy
03-23-2006, 10:36 AM
Shutting him down, aka "I'll go sit in the corner cos I can't cover for sh1te" ? :)

cap1
03-23-2006, 10:44 AM
I was thinking about the upcoming season and as i was pondering I started to think.....when we go to play the cowgirls.....who is going to cover T.O.? What are the chances of our best defensive player (D-Rob)...doing it?


P burnt will do it. :brickwall :brickwall :crying:

Mycco
03-23-2006, 10:49 AM
P burnt will do it. :brickwall :brickwall :crying:


lol....in that case expect to see a bunch of T.O. TD celebrations on sportscenter.

Malloy
03-23-2006, 10:51 AM
We could resign Marcus Coleman and have him piggybag ride TO all day, that's bound to wear him down? :)

Txn_in_FL
03-23-2006, 10:53 AM
While not exactly T.O., didn't Chad Johnson talk a bunch of smack and not get anything from the Texans when we played Cincy last season?

I hope they play later in the year so our guys have a chance to gel with the new way of doing business.

bigtex77
03-23-2006, 10:57 AM
lol....in that case expect to see a bunch of T.O. TD celebrations on sportscenter.

He might run out of celebrations. LOL

Big B Texan Fan
03-23-2006, 11:05 AM
Let's hope whoever the Texans put on TO can shut down TO better than Hall--7 rec. 112 yds.
Kepping that guy out of the endzone and winning the game against the Defending NFC Champs early in the season (before we knew they would struggle that season) is about as good as it gets. He shut him down.

IMO if TO had 5 catches for 65 yrd and a TD and the Eagles won then we wouldn't think that Hall shut him down. But that day was special, NFL Films have a 30 min show on how Hall shut him down that day, rather a show on that game (Game of the Week) but it expoits that match-up throughout most of the show.

LBC_Justin
03-23-2006, 11:07 AM
two words: Double Coverage


TO will be seeing it all day.

Big B Texan Fan
03-23-2006, 11:09 AM
two words: Double Coverage


TO will be seeing it all day.
2 more words.

Rattle Bledsoe

Mycco
03-23-2006, 11:43 AM
2 more words.

Rattle Bledsoe


2 more words

FAT CHANCE!

Granted Bledsoe is a statue sometimes, but we'd have to get a pass rush on him 1st, just to throw his timing off much less rattle him. Texans and pass rush....LOL...now that's an oximoron if I've ever heard one.

Big B Texan Fan
03-23-2006, 12:37 PM
2 more words

FAT CHANCE!

Granted Bledsoe is a statue sometimes, but we'd have to get a pass rush on him 1st, just to throw his timing off much less rattle him. Texans and pass rush....LOL...now that's an oximoron if I've ever heard one.
Ohh, I'm with ya on that. We couldn't scare a school girl. But that's what it'll will take along with double coverage.

Texas
03-23-2006, 12:58 PM
D-Rob and C.C brown could handle. However it will be Champ Bailey after he realizes he's in love with kubiak and demands a trade and accept to be on our team for 0.5 million.:yahoo:

z0rpAn
03-23-2006, 01:36 PM
read the sig!

LORK 88
03-23-2006, 01:58 PM
Don't get me wrong...I think D.Rob can hold his own, and I'm sure he'll win a couple of matchups against T.O. when they meet, but D'angelo Hall is also a bigger more physical corner than D.Rob, just something else to keep in mind.

How is Hall that much bigger to where its that big of a factor? Hes got Dunta by probably 15 pounds Id say. However, I wouldnt dare question Dunta's toughness, I think Dunta is every bit as tough as Hall, if not more.

jerek
03-23-2006, 02:01 PM
2 more words.

Rattle Bledsoe

Good call. QB can't throw if he can't see. QB can't throw if he is on his butt. QB won't throw once we're in his head.

I shudder to think how this would go if we still had Fangio calling the plays ... I am hoping our new DC believes in pressure.

Vinny
03-23-2006, 02:17 PM
Good call. QB can't throw if he can't see. QB can't throw if he is on his butt. QB won't throw once we're in his head.

I shudder to think how this would go if we still had Fangio calling the plays ... I am hoping our new DC believes in pressure.A new saddle isn't going to make this horse any faster. Hopefully we add a pass rusher in the draft.

thunderkyss
03-23-2006, 02:23 PM
A new saddle isn't going to make this horse any faster. Hopefully we add a pass rusher in the draft.

so you don't see Babin/Peek in the 4-3 as an upgrade in our pass rush??

Vinny
03-23-2006, 02:24 PM
so you don't see Babin/Peek in the 4-3 as an upgrade in our pass rush??
How is something an upgrade when it is the same pair of players who failed to give us a pass rush in the past? We went to a ton of 4-3 looks with Peek and Babin hand down.

chuckm
03-23-2006, 02:27 PM
How is something an upgrade when it is the same pair of players who failed to give us a pass rush in the past? We went to a ton of 4-3 looks with Peek and Babin hand down.


Good coaches put players in a position to succeed. It's my hope that these guys, especially Peek, are used according to their strengths and not shoe-horned into a need .... let Peek react and rush, don't ask him to drop into coverage any more than necessary .... :twocents:

Vinny
03-23-2006, 02:29 PM
Good coaches put players in a position to succeed. It's my hope that these guys, especially Peek, are used according to their strengths and not shoe-horned into a need .... let Peek react and rush, don't ask him to drop into coverage any more than necessary .... :twocents:I have a ton of games taped and rewatch them all the time. When Peek was put into a pass rushing only type situation he was mediocre most of the time. The team gave him a big tender though....so here's to blind hope that he improves in year 4 I guess.

Ibar_Harry
03-23-2006, 02:33 PM
Good coaches put players in a position to succeed. It's my hope that these guys, especially Peek, are used according to their strengths and not shoe-horned into a need .... let Peek react and rush, don't ask him to drop into coverage any more than necessary .... :twocents:

I think the addition of Weaver is going to have an impact on this issue. We are not exactly the same as before. The question is the loss of Walker and the addition of Weaver going to be a plus or minus along with the new scheme.

Another factor mentioned has been that of training and whether are players have been exhausted by that practice. I have a more positive view at the current time, but we will have to wait and see.

thunderkyss
03-23-2006, 02:35 PM
How is something an upgrade when it is the same pair of players who failed to give us a pass rush in the past? We went to a ton of 4-3 looks with Peek and Babin hand down.

If I knew, I wouldn't be ask'n....... I don't remember seeing to much of Babin/Peek in 4-3 situations. I especially don't remember seeing much of Babin on the right side.......

I have no clue how this is going to work out.. I figured you know more than I, so I asked.



I'm putting you down as a no.:)

PokerStar
03-23-2006, 03:05 PM
Well Weaver will be our guy on 1st and 2nd and then on 3rd he will move inside sometimes, Wow here is hoping for Mario, but maybe Bush will improve our pass rush too.

texasguy346
03-23-2006, 03:27 PM
I have a ton of games taped and rewatch them all the time. When Peek was put into a pass rushing only type situation he was mediocre most of the time. The team gave him a big tender though....so here's to blind hope that he improves in year 4 I guess.

I'm wondering what your thoughts are about Peek in the Arizona game. He appeared to do pretty well against Leonard Davis. He sacked warner on the first play of the game, and on the 2nd play of the game they put a TE on Peek's side to help Davis & he still go pretty good pressure. I'm pretty sure Babin got a sack on Warner for the 3rd play of the game, and that was the one that eventually ended Warner's day. I know Arizona's OLine couldn't do much when it came to blocking for the run, but they were much better when it came to pass blocking.

Obviously I would still love to see the Texans pickup Mario Williams, or even a later round guy like Tapp to help give us a better pass rush. However, I think Babin could really improve with better coaching. He's got the power to push tackles & collapse the pocket, and he's got decent speed & quickness. Peek might not be an every down DE, but he would be a great pass rushing specialist IMO.

Vinny
03-23-2006, 03:29 PM
I'm wondering what your thoughts are about Peek in the Arizona game. He appeared to do pretty well against Leonard Davis. It's like Carr tearing up the Vikings and Rams secondary and trying to build a case that Carr is going to be great. Those were his best games ever but they came against the worst defenses in the NFL.

Mycco
03-23-2006, 03:40 PM
It's like Carr tearing up the Vikings and Rams secondary and trying to build a case that Carr is going to be great. Those were his best games ever but they came against the worst defenses in the NFL.


Great point! The Cardinals have had a history of being terrible. We have to find a way to compete in our own division if we are ever going to have a shot at making the playoffs. If either one of them could put on the same kind of performance against the Colts, Jags, or Titans then I'd give them their props.

PokerStar
03-23-2006, 03:41 PM
L. Davis is a G playing Tackle. He is much better at G. i think Peek will be ok as long as he does not have to think, and Babin I think will be suitable. Weaver dont expect much from will be happy if he gets at least 5 sacks as that would be his highest ever.

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 04:13 PM
read the sig!
Dwayne Slay is at best Roy Williams. Hits hard, but can't cover. I was watching some games this season and wondered why people thought Buchanon wasn't a good tackler. He had bad mechanics and was caught out of place, but he he layed down the hammer. He is a corner, he's not supposed to be a great tackler. D-Rob is just a great talent.

Hall shut down Chad Johnson, not TO, I think.

z0rpAn
03-23-2006, 04:39 PM
I wasn't saying cover him, have some CB hold onto one of T.O.s ankles and then have Slay...slay him :). They say Slay is the size of a lineman if not bigger, so he can put people out cold if he can get his speed up. Thats why i refer to him as "the fridge".

hollywood_texan
03-23-2006, 06:00 PM
Dwayne Slay is at best Roy Williams. Hits hard, but can't cover. I was watching some games this season and wondered why people thought Buchanon wasn't a good tackler. He had bad mechanics and was caught out of place, but he he layed down the hammer. He is a corner, he's not supposed to be a great tackler. D-Rob is just a great talent.

Hall shut down Chad Johnson, not TO, I think.

Did you watch the Pittsburgh game? Buchanon stepped up and was in excellent position to tackle Parker and he let me him walk right into the end zone because he just stuck his arm out.

If Buchanon has laid the wood as a tackler, someone please tell me what game.

If I remember correctly, that was one of his problems when he was playing in Oakland.

Buchanon and Coleman had the same tackle technique last year.

run-david-run
03-23-2006, 06:38 PM
It's because we double man the #1 when in man coverage. Also the Defense V. Fangio ran was a left croner/right corner as far as the corners were concerned.

Regardless, it's time for D-Rob to cover the #1 in every game we play, with the exception of him blitzing. D'Angelo Hall covered T.O. in his match with the Eagles early last season. He practically shut him down. D-Rob is as good as Hall.
TO had about 7 grabs and 80-90 yards, I'd hardly call that getting shut down, although D'Hall did get a pick. I would love to see Drob against only #1 receivers. When we played Indy in Indy he covered Marrvin Harrison and in the first half limited him to 7 yard slants, unfortunately in the second we had the blown coverage and the 50 yard TD, anyway, I liked the potential, Drob could be one of the best, with some help from his teammates.

run-david-run
03-23-2006, 06:45 PM
It's like Carr tearing up the Vikings and Rams secondary and trying to build a case that Carr is going to be great. Those were his best games ever but they came against the worst defenses in the NFL.
Arizona was the number one pass offense. While not exactly dominating Orlando Pace, getting through to the QB like they did that day showed me something.

tulexan
03-23-2006, 07:07 PM
Antonio Cromartie?

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 07:50 PM
Did you watch the Pittsburgh game? Buchanon stepped up and was in excellent position to tackle Parker and he let me him walk right into the end zone because he just stuck his arm out.

If Buchanon has laid the wood as a tackler, someone please tell me what game.
Buchanon and Coleman had the same tackle technique last year.
Buchanon did not have "excellent position" to tackle, he was fooled and was going to go outside. By the time he was going to go inside, he was working against too much momentum to tackle inside. Watch the Cincinnati game. He had some good tackles.
Coleman and Buchanon do not have the same tackle technique. Coleman was more of a piggyback tackler and Buchanon actually made tackles.

HowBoutThemCowboys!
03-23-2006, 08:31 PM
two words: Double Coverage


TO will be seeing it all day.

lol, 2 words- Terry Glenn.

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 09:54 PM
lol, 2 words- Terry Glenn.
2 more words--Petey Faggins

newbiefan
03-23-2006, 10:04 PM
2 more words - laxative brownies

HowBoutThemCowboys!
03-23-2006, 10:23 PM
2 more words--Petey Faggins



Terry Glenn>Faggins ANYDAY of the week.

The guy was constantly burnt to a crisp last season. No picks, mediocre tackle total. I bet my money on Terry Glenn.

mexican_texan
03-23-2006, 11:45 PM
Terry Glenn>Faggins ANYDAY of the week.

The guy was constantly burnt to a crisp last season. No picks, mediocre tackle total. I bet my money on Terry Glenn.
Petey was alright. Glenn wasn't that great. He won't get past our Glenn.

Koolbrz
03-23-2006, 11:56 PM
I'm not much of a T.O. fan like many others, but the truth is he'll torch our defense for at least 1 TD. Dunta will have his hands full w/ him, and in the end T.O.'s size and strength will be too much for him. Be prepared for his TD celebrations against the Texans to be replayed over and over on sportscenter.

You can wish all you want about him getting kicked off of the Cowboys, but the fact is, he got the money he wanted from Dallas, now he has something to prove to the rest of the league. Next year will be a different story, but as for this year expect him to put up the same kind of numbers he did his 1st year in Philly. It will be a long Sunday when the Cowboys and Texans meet this year, I hate to bring yall down, but that's just the way it is.

It might be a long day. It might also be a long day for TO. Put D-Rob on him and let them go at it. TO is bigger, but with a little help the secondary just might be able to shut him down. Only time will tell.

HowBoutThemCowboys!
03-24-2006, 12:38 AM
Petey was alright. Glenn wasn't that great. He won't get past our Glenn.

Actually Terry Glenn did have a good year (1136 yards receiving, 7 TDs)

LBblitz
03-24-2006, 01:12 AM
T.O. is older & wizer now... Along with the tuna's way of handling players... I give him one season of towing the line on the team... next yr.. big problems..
That is exactly what Ive been telling everyone. I think he'll do fine this year...however, if he does good enough to secure the rest of his contract, look for the TO of old to come out. "If it smell like a rat and looks like a rat..."

Mycco
03-24-2006, 11:23 AM
It might be a long day. It might also be a long day for TO. Put D-Rob on him and let them go at it. TO is bigger, but with a little help the secondary just might be able to shut him down. Only time will tell.

He'll need more than a little help from the secondary. This is T.O we're talking about! He's like 6 inches taller than him and out weighs him by close to 20lbs if not more. I like D.Rob also and I'm not questioning his toughness, but seriously, if you beleive he can shut T.O. down, then I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that I might be able to intrest you in as well.

1texan4life
03-24-2006, 11:44 AM
No one can cover T.O.
Even though he is a moron, he is an exceptional talent.
At 33 years of age, I believe he is still in his prime.
I hate to say it, but he will be the reason we lose to the cowgirls this year.

Double Barrel
03-24-2006, 01:22 PM
If TO applies himself and is a team player, he'll probably have a great year.

And I could care less if he does great against the Texans, AS LONG AS IT IS A LOSING CAUSE FOR THE COWPOKES!

Wins and losses - scoreboard is all that matters. I just hope they focus on beating the team and not just beating one player.

Diehardtexan
03-24-2006, 01:42 PM
T.O will get hurt at the Eagles game and before we play the Girls.:stirpot:

thunderkyss
03-24-2006, 01:46 PM
No one can cover T.O.
Even though he is a moron, he is an exceptional talent.
At 33 years of age, I believe he is still in his prime.
I hate to say it, but he will be the reason we lose to the cowgirls this year.

I believe Terence Newman held him to 50yards last year......... That may be why T.O. wanted to go to Dallas..... he doesn't have to play him anymore.

Mycco
03-24-2006, 01:50 PM
I believe Terence Newman held him to 50yards last year......... That may be why T.O. wanted to go to Dallas..... he doesn't have to play him anymore.

I think his reasoning besides the $$$, was that he'll get to stick it to Philly twice a year.