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Mightymike
03-21-2006, 08:13 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2378875

Atlanta sent its first-round choice, the 15th pick overall in this year's draft, to Denver for the Broncos' first-round choice, No. 29 overall. The Falcons also picked up a pair of middle-round selections, one each in the 2006 and 2007 drafts.

The Falcons then shipped the 29th pick acquired from Denver to the Jets in exchange for Abraham, a three-time Pro Bowl pass rusher who was also being sought by the Seattle Seahawks.

Carr Bombed
03-21-2006, 08:17 PM
That gives the Jets two first round picks The 4th and 29th ovrl. Looks like they are making moves for a trade up to the #2 spot for Lienart, possibly.

TexanFan881
03-21-2006, 08:20 PM
I thought the Broncos were looking for an early pick next year, not this year...

Mightymike
03-21-2006, 08:22 PM
I thought the Broncos were looking for an early pick next year, not this year...

maybe they are looking to trade again........who knows

TexanBacker93
03-21-2006, 08:24 PM
Well, Denver's 2 picks are a little more enticing if a team wants to trade down. The Jets now have 2 1st round picks as well.

Dr. Toro
03-21-2006, 08:26 PM
I thought they wanted to move out of two 1st rounders? This makes them a major player now.

Mightymike
03-21-2006, 08:27 PM
too late i already posted it

Dr. Toro
03-21-2006, 08:29 PM
now i feel like peter gammons.

awtysst
03-21-2006, 08:42 PM
Perhaps they would be interested in trading up to acquire Reggie

The Dude Abides
03-21-2006, 08:48 PM
I would want something higher in this draft besides a 15 and 22. The Jets at 4 and 29 get a little more interesting however

awtysst
03-21-2006, 08:49 PM
I would want something higher in this draft besides a 15 and 22. The Jets at 4 and 29 get a little more interesting however

Well, I never said JUST 4 and 29, i simply said maybe they would be interested in trading up.

DaveCarr@andrejohnson.net
03-21-2006, 08:51 PM
The Jets still have to sign the paper to make it a legal trade.

tulexan
03-21-2006, 08:54 PM
A major player for what?

The Dude Abides
03-21-2006, 09:06 PM
A major player for what?

Women?

MorKnolle
03-21-2006, 09:08 PM
I thought the Broncos were looking for an early pick next year, not this year...

The Broncos have been wanting to trade up this year all along, and they definitely got the best end of this deal:

Broncos:
Gave up #29 and mid round pick in 2006 and 2007. (640 + apr. 200-250 more points = 840-890 pts.)
Get #15 pick (1050 pts.)

Falcons:
Gave up 15 pick
Get mid round pick in 2006 and 2007 and John Abraham

Jets:
Gave up John Abraham
Get #29 pick

MorKnolle
03-21-2006, 09:14 PM
I thought they wanted to move out of two 1st rounders? This makes them a major player now.

The Broncos were never looking to move both 1st rounders, they were entertaining offers to send off one of their 1st round picks this year for a future 1st and an extra pick and had also been exploring options to move up this year. With this deal they moved up in 14 spots in this draft for two mid-round picks, nice move on their part.

Dr. Toro
03-21-2006, 09:18 PM
A major player for what?

To move up and get a player they covet. Vernon Davis might make sense.

tulexan
03-21-2006, 09:22 PM
I could see that. I could really see the Niners trading down with them because they have a lot of needs on both sides of the ball.

MorKnolle
03-21-2006, 09:24 PM
I could see that. I could really see the Niners trading down with them because they have a lot of needs on both sides of the ball.

That could be a very possible option.

tulexan
03-21-2006, 09:27 PM
If you think about it, that would be a win-win situation for both teams. Niners would get two picks in a deep draft and the Broncos would get an upgrade over an important player they just lost.

Dr. Toro
03-21-2006, 09:30 PM
Say Denver moves up for Davis. Just for a minute imagine being an Oakland Raider linebacker... Gates, Gonzalez, Davis, twice a year.

Coach C.
03-21-2006, 09:31 PM
I must say that Shanahan is one of the most intelligent coach/GM guys in the business. He continually suckers people in trades and always gets pretty good value. he may of just got himself a top 10 pick if he wants one. I would think he would be eyeing Vernon Davis or perhaps Mike Huff. Damn Shanahan think he will quit coaching and come be our GM. Toro that would suck.

Coach C.
03-21-2006, 09:33 PM
So let's say that Mario will fall to 4 do you think the Jets would be even willing to trade up and get the dynamic playmaker Bush and we then would be able to get Mario, Mangold, and possibly Winston or whatever other player at 29 or 33. Could you imagine a first three picks of Mario, Mangold, Winston.

Seņor Stan
03-21-2006, 09:34 PM
That could be a very possible option.

#15 and #22 would have about a 1830 draft value
# 6 about 1600

Denver would be the one moving up, so they might make that move without any additional picks in later rounds from SF. It would be sweet for them if they got a 3rd(#70) or 4th(#102) from SF.

outofhnd
03-21-2006, 09:37 PM
i guess that clinic he put on the falcons last year paid off for Abraham he gets the deal he wants

tulexan
03-21-2006, 09:45 PM
If there are any trades in the top 10, I think that the Niners/Broncos trade is the most likely one. Jets/Saints is the second most likely.

In fact, I believe those are the only two trades that will probably happen.

Coach C.
03-21-2006, 09:49 PM
If I was Cass I would be on the phone with the Jets right now. The 4 gives us a shot at Mario and Mangold or Winston or another guy that could fit with us possibly even Bobby Carpenter or Jonathan Joseph. Unfortunately I think Winston will be gone by 25.

thunderkyss
03-21-2006, 11:42 PM
The Broncos have been wanting to trade up this year all along, and they definitely got the best end of this deal:

Broncos:
Gave up #29 and mid round pick in 2006 and 2007. (640 + apr. 200-250 more points = 840-890 pts.)
Get #15 pick (1050 pts.)

Falcons:
Gave up 15 pick
Get mid round pick in 2006 and 2007 and John Abraham

Jets:
Gave up John Abraham
Get #29 pick


You don't think John Abraham is worth 240 pts?? Do you think there is someone there @ 15 who would work better for Atlanta?? Abraham has had some injury problems.... I'm sure that is a concern. IF he gets hurt in 2006, and has to miss more than two games, then yes, Denver got the better end of the deal. If... he doesn't, and he gets his ten sacks, or improve on that #, I think the Falcons got a steal.......... they even have an extra pick in this years draft...

texman8
03-22-2006, 12:29 AM
MENAGE A TRADE MOVES ABE TO ATLANTA



In an unusual three-way trade, Jets defensive end John Abraham will land in Atlanta by way of Denver, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com.



Per Glazer, the deal has been approved by the league, and it will become official once the Jets sign the paperwork.



To get the deal done, the Falcons sent the 15th overall pick in the draft to Denver, and Denver sent one of its first-round picks, the No. 29 selection, to Atlanta, along with a third-rounder this year and a fourth-rounder in 2007.



So the Falcons, who had resisted trading their first-round pick to the Jets straight up for Abraham, will send the No. 29 pick to the Jets and keep the three and the four.



The irony here is that the Broncos initially were linked to Abraham.



And left holding the bag, for the second time in two days, are the Seahawks. Seattle struck a deal with the Jets for a trade, but could not come to terms with Abraham on money.



Mechanically, Abraham will sign his franchise tender and then sign the long-term deal with the Jets. The contract won't have a signing bonus, but will instead carry an option bonus or a roster bonus (or both) due within a few days after the agreement is signed. So the Jets will suffer no cap hit and incur no cost, and will instead free up the $8.3 million in salary space that had applied to Abraham.



POSTED 8:52 p.
Interesting details....Jets won't take a cap hit. Could be a player for FA.

el toro
03-22-2006, 01:14 AM
Maybe we don't trade Bush.

Grid
03-22-2006, 01:53 AM
A trade with the jets just became very enticing for us.

Rumor has been going around that we are really interested in Nick Mangold. Problem is that Mangold, in at least half the mocks ive seen.. ends up going to Pittsburgh at #32 (dang it!).. and now with Seattle losing Hutchinson.. Mangold may be on their radar as well. Getting the #4 and #29 allows us to grab Mario Williams, and jump ahead of Pittsburgh and Seattle to grab Mangold.

If we dont trade out of the #1 spot.. look for us to attempt trading back up to the #29 spot for our #33 and probably our 4th rounder or something.

texasguy346
03-22-2006, 02:04 AM
I really don't see the logic in the mocks that have the Steelers taking Mangold with the 32nd pick. They just recently resigned Hartings & their primary backup at C Okobi to new contracts. It seems to me a WR or perhaps even a LB would make more sense for them. Perhaps a Chad Jackson or Santonio Holmes could help compensate for the loss of Randle El.

Grid
03-22-2006, 02:34 AM
*shrug*.. dunno why they do it.. but i figure if that many people are picking Mangold for them, there must be a reason.

texasguy346
03-22-2006, 03:03 AM
*shrug*.. dunno why they do it.. but i figure if that many people are picking Mangold for them, there must be a reason.

Yeah I'm just puzzled as to why there always seems to be a few very odd picks by mocks every eyear. Like they'll have a team that has too many RBs taking yet another RB or something along those lines. I think it has more to do with most mocks being more concerned with a players value than what position a team might be looking at more. Just something that always makes me wonder.

TMac48
03-22-2006, 03:46 AM
If we move down to 4, isn't it likely that the Saints take Mario at 2, or will they go for D'Brick?

tulexan
03-22-2006, 09:55 AM
Trading down to 4 became a lot riskier after the Saints picked up Brees. We aren't guaranteed anything now. That is why I don't think we will trade down. Before Brees to Saints, maybe. But now? I don't see it.

Bubbajwp
03-22-2006, 10:00 AM
I dont see the Jets trading at all right now they are in a perfect position to replace J Abraham and K Mawae with M Williams and Mangold. So I dont see them trading.

MorKnolle
03-22-2006, 07:59 PM
I dont see the Jets trading at all right now they are in a perfect position to replace J Abraham and K Mawae with M Williams and Mangold. So I dont see them trading.

That is a very distinct possibility which could also damage any ideas of us trading down.

tulexan
03-22-2006, 08:02 PM
I dont see the Jets trading at all right now they are in a perfect position to replace J Abraham and K Mawae with M Williams and Mangold. So I dont see them trading.


That is what I have been thinking. The Jets lost two major players on their team. I just don't see them giving up multiple picks to get one player

Wolf
03-26-2006, 07:04 PM
I dont see the Jets trading at all right now they are in a perfect position to replace J Abraham and K Mawae with M Williams and Mangold. So I dont see them trading.

I think that too... only way I think they would trade up is if they were really serious about Bush replacing C Martin.. but IMO why would they if they could have D. williams or maybe L. White (for example) to replace Martin.

MorKnolle
03-26-2006, 07:20 PM
The Jets are in a nice position now to take Mario Williams (replacement/likely upgrade for John Abraham) and either Nick Mangold (replace Kevin Mawae) or one of the big 4 RBs (one of them could definitely slide to #29 and the Jets take them to complement Curtis Martin and eventually replace him).