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whiskeyrbl
03-21-2006, 10:29 AM
Just was thinking of what we have done in FA up to this point,and thinking of our needs and players suitable to our new systems.I came up with 2 scenarios,what is y'alls opinion:
Version 1
#1 Bush Rb USC No discussion nec.
#33 Joseph CB SC Nice tandem w/DRob(Maybe not avail.@#65)
#65 Wilkinson ILB Geor.Tech Sounds like a solid ILB
#66 Nance WR Miami @ 6'4 1/4 213 4.55/40 nice comp. for AJ/WALTER
#97 Boothe OG Cornell A lesser known but qualified mid-late rd addition
#129 Threat S Miami Sounds like a good fit
#161 Philip C California Good late P/u for C
#193 Kevin Walter via Cinn.
Or if we could trade w/DEN for #22
#1 Bush RB USC
#22 Kiwanuka DE BC
#33 Joseph CB
#65 Nance WR Mia
#66 Wilkinson ILB Geo Tech
#97 Trade w/Den (along with 1rd in 2007)
#129 Boothe OG Cornell
#161 Philip C California
#193 Kevin Walter via Cin.

Player profiles look @ www.nfldraftcountdown.com

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-21-2006, 10:38 AM
Offensive Tackle | Junior | Southern Cal Winston Justice
Height: 6-6 1/8 | Weight: 319 | 40-Time: 5.10

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has great size and long arms...Still has room to bulk up his large frame...A tremendous natural athlete...Very strong and powerful...An outstanding run blocker...Great pass blocker who protected the blindside of lefty quarterback Matt Leinart...Mobile and quick with good feet...Has only begun to scratch the surface of his potential and still has a ton of upside...Has 3 years of starting experience.

Weaknesses:
Is still very raw and needs to be developed in terms of his technique...Had arthroscopic surgery to repair a dislocated right shoulder after his freshman season...Immature and character is a question after a series of off-the-field incidents which led to his being suspended for the entire 2004 season.

Notes:
Played right tackle for the Trojans but might be able to play left as well...Didn't play football until his sophomore year in high school...Was a part of the famed 2002 Long Beach Poly high school class that also included Marcedes Lewis (U.C.L.A.), Darnell Bing (USC), Hershel Dennis (USC), and Manuel Wright (Miami Dolphins)...Has the ability and talent to be a premier NFL offensive tackle.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Offensive Tackle | Senior | Auburn Marcus McNeill
Height: 6-7 5/8 | Weight: 336 | 40-Time: 5.07

Official Bio

Strengths:
A massive mountain of a man who is an imposing physical presence...Has a large frame with long arms, big hands and a wide base...Tremendous athlete for his size and has great feet...Moves laterally extremely well and it is not easy to get around him...Does a good job getting to the second level of defenders...Has good playing strength...Smart player with top intangibles who wants to get better...An all-around performer who is a factor as both a run blocker and pass protector.

Weaknesses:
Will play too upright at times due to his height...Has some medical issues with his back and neck that will have to be cleared...Will get caught leaning...May lack a nasty demeanor and that killer instinct...Will get lazy and lose concentration at times...Needs to refine and become more consistent with his technique...Is not as explosive as you would expect a guy with his mass and dimensions to be.

Notes:
From a measurables standpoint this guy is off the charts and exactly what you look for in a stud tackle...Could project to either the left or right side as a pro...Experienced and has led the way for some great rushing attacks...You simply can't teach the type of size and athleticism that this guy brings to the table.

whiskeyrbl
03-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I thought about that, the only reason i didn't put him in was based that it looks as if we have our tackles set and are in need of an OG.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-21-2006, 10:46 AM
A guard with a good tackle and solid Center and learn on the fly so what about a guy like this with the 3rd round pick. I think he should be there...

Max Jean-Gilles
Height: 6-3 3/4 | Weight: 355 | 40-Time: 5.47

Official Bio

Strengths:
Massive player with a large frame and long arms...Extremely strong and can manhandle opponents...Quick off the ball and is a solid athlete...Has good feet and moves well inside at guard...Delivers an explosive initial punch...Is equally effective as both a run blocker and pass protector...Tough and durable...Versatile and has a lot of experience at multiple positions along the offensive line.

Weaknesses:
Needs to keep his weight in check and stay in proper physical condition so he doesn't wear down...Disappears at times needs to show more consistency...Has below average speed...May lack a nasty demeanor and killer instinct...Does not get to the second level of defenders...Has trouble handling speed rushers.

Notes:
Could potentially see some time at right offensive tackle but looks much better inside at guard...Has the ability to be a dominant blocker at the pro level, especially if the team who brings him in can maximize his effort on every play.

TexansFanatic
03-21-2006, 10:47 AM
We definitely NEED one of these guys!

el toro
03-21-2006, 10:50 AM
At #33 they should be able to pick up a solid lineman prospect if they opt to go that route.

Bearfan Blue and Orange
03-21-2006, 10:51 AM
Inside Linebacker | Senior | Iowa Abdul Hodge
Height: 6-0 3/8 | Weight: 236 | 40-Time: 4.76

Official Bio

Strengths:
Very quick and athletic...Hits like a ton of bricks...Sure tackler...Has been very productive throughout his career...Has great instincts...Very strong...Hard worker with top intangibles...Gravitates toward the action and seems to always be in the mix...Displays solid technique...Thumper in the middle...Smart and a team leader.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the type of size in terms of height that you would prefer, but has a solid build...Can do a better job in coverage...Does not look real fluid when dropping back on pass plays...May run into more resistance when it comes to taking on blocks at the pro level than he did in college...Needs the right scheme.

Notes:
Has a young daughter...Brother is a freshman LB at Wisconsin...Other than lack of size it is not easy to pinpoint many glaring weaknesses with this guy...Excellent prospect with just the right blend of physical tools and collegiate production.

STUD!!!

el toro
03-21-2006, 10:53 AM
Reggie McNeal might be worth a look at #66 or #97. With his speed and arm he could be one of those athletic QB types converted into a receiver.

Mailman04
03-21-2006, 10:54 AM
If they are all available here is what I would do unless of course some can't miss slips to Houston in one of these spots
1. Reggie Bush, RB
2. Thomas Howard, OLB,
3. Michael Robinson, WR
3. Jeremy Trueblood, OT
4. Kai Parham, MLB
I would be tempted to go for McNeill of Auburn or Winston of Miami at OT in second round too instead of Howard

Dunta_23
03-21-2006, 11:19 AM
Winston Justice wont be available in round 2, and Abdul Hodge shouldnt be available in round 3, but if either of them are..They are steals

el toro
03-21-2006, 11:28 AM
How about....

1. Reggie Bush, RB, USC
33. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn or Eric Winston, OT, Miami or Daryn Colledge, LT, Boise State
65. Alan Zemaitis, CB, Penn State
66. Reggie McNeal, QB, Texas A&M
97. Rocky McIntosh, ILB Miami
129. Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin
161. Willie Evans, DE Mississippi State

?

chuckm
03-21-2006, 11:30 AM
How about....

66. Reggie McNeal, QB, Texas A&M

?


Why? speed to burn, learning a new position, played locally

pass

el toro
03-21-2006, 11:34 AM
Plenty of speed, strong arm, and used to running the rock. Maybe convert to be 4th or 5th WR. Good guy to use on gadget plays. Perhaps the 3rd is too early for him, but he has very intriguing physical tools.

Dunta_23
03-21-2006, 11:38 AM
Zemaitis' stock is dropping very fast after his pro day, apparently most Penn players really stunk it up

PokerStar
03-21-2006, 11:50 AM
Reggie would be a nice second day pick, but definately would not use a 1st day pick on him seeing that he really wants to play QB. He is a WR, maybe he can play QB, but he is really a Vick clone. At WR he could be better than Randle El. He is definately faster, and probably just as good an athlete.

el toro
03-21-2006, 11:54 AM
Also, I think they will be looking at a O-lineman with #33. With #65 or 66 they can pick up a corner.

el toro
03-21-2006, 11:55 AM
Reggie would be a nice second day pick, but definately would not use a 1st day pick on him seeing that he really wants to play QB. He is a WR, maybe he can play QB, but he is really a Vick clone. At WR he could be better than Randle El. He is definately faster, and probably just as good an athlete.

That's the idea. I've seen him all over the board in various mocks. Could allow the team to carry two "true" QBs with McNeal as the emergency 3rd.

yourfavoritetexan42
03-21-2006, 12:36 PM
Bush #1 is a given.

As for second round, we need an offensive tackle. I was going to say a TE but we picked up putz, so we take the best available tackle.

3rd round(two picks)
Best available linebacker. We don't need a corner, we have a decent one already in buchanan who is extremely cheap.
Then with our second 3rd rounder, if Reggie is available take him, there are quite a bit very successful receivers who played qb in college (one just won the superbowl mvp). I have watched Reggie play live in quite a bit of games, he had a crappy team around him, but he is a tremendous athlete, i would put his speed and quickness above vince youngs. Vince Young is however a better quarterback.

4th round
A safety, we already have a young good safety in glenn earl (who still has some upside, at notre dame he was great)
I would really like taking a risk for the SS out of Texas Tech in Dwayne Slay, that dude is a badass. He comes up and kills people. In the Texas game I was watching him lay out people left and right, he also made some big plays. His workout numbers might not be impressive but on the field he is just a guy if i was a player I would love to have out on the field with me.

5th round
Offensive linemen, add some depth.

6th round
CB or another linemen

Please_Evolve
03-21-2006, 12:44 PM
Unless he sees his options at playing QB evaporate. He seems bent on playing Q. Maybe a late second day pick but ....i really don't think at this point in our organization to take that sort of a project player unless he is willing to compromise completely on his behalf.I'm more thinking he'll turn out a al Eric Crouch unless he commits like Randle El. I think if we are to succed this year and down the road this is an important draft. I don't think we can afford any misses this year 1st-4th. :twocents:

TheOgre
03-21-2006, 12:45 PM
There really should be some tough choices with that 2nd round pick. If we are going to suck, at least we picked a good year to do it.

Mightymike
03-21-2006, 01:48 PM
I thought about that, the only reason i didn't put him in was based that it looks as if we have our tackles set and are in need of an OG.
who's our RT

TexanAddict
03-21-2006, 02:17 PM
I have posted my thoughts on this on a couple other threads but I will put them here as well:

1st Round: With this pick we should pick Bush or Mario, I think it would be best to pick Mario, but I believe it will be Bush.

2nd Round: Select the best O-Lineman available. It is very likely that Winston, McNeill, Jean-Gilles, or maybe even Mangold fall to us here. Any of these would be an almost instant upgrade and can not be passed up.

3rd Round: Here we should take the two best players available at any two of these positions: MLB, CB, FS, C (since I believe Mangold will not fall to us). It is very likely that we could get a very good MLB here (Kai Parham could be a good pick up if Hodge and Jackson are already gone) and a top rated FS (Whitner and maybe even Ko Simpson, although he'll probably be gone). Also, Cromartie might fall this far if teams are still worried about his injury, but after his Pro Day I doubt he lasts. Enslinger could also be had here and would be a great value as the second rated C according to most and having played extensively in a zone blocking offense.

4th: Here we should look to DE who should add depth and perhaps challenge the spots of Babin and Peek. I'm thinking Victor Adeyanju from Indiana might be a great selection here.

In the later rounds we add depth and maybe a project player. :twocents:

TexanAddict
03-21-2006, 02:21 PM
I also don't think there are really any WRs that might be selected in round 3 or lower that could come in and immediately contribute. This is a weak class for WRs after the top three and highly doubt that those we might select would be any better than what we already have or could aquire in FA. Therefore, I don't think a WR should be selected until possibly the 5th.

whiskeyrbl
03-21-2006, 03:13 PM
who's our RT

I brlirve they said they were goin to use Weigert if not injured

YoungTexanFan
03-21-2006, 03:39 PM
If they are all available here is what I would do unless of course some can't miss slips to Houston in one of these spots
1. Reggie Bush, RB
2. Thomas Howard, OLB,
3. Michael Robinson, WR
3. Jeremy Trueblood, OT
4. Kai Parham, MLB
I would be tempted to go for McNeill of Auburn or Winston of Miami at OT in second round too instead of Howard


This draft would be laughed at for at least the next decade or five.

An undersized, project OLB who struggles reading a defense in the second round?

A WR/QB who is likely to go undrafted, and will not see the field at either position until at least his rookie contract is up...and in the third round!?

A MLB who is slower than most of the linemen in the 4th, who is likely to slip to at least the 6th?

Coach C.
03-21-2006, 03:46 PM
YTF I am laughing right now. We also got Trueblood when Whitworth or Scott would better fit our system. Trueblood is not good in space and is more of a project. He is a late 3rd rounder maybe even a second day guy.

Dunta_23
03-21-2006, 03:51 PM
If they are all available here is what I would do unless of course some can't miss slips to Houston in one of these spots
1. Reggie Bush, RB
2. Thomas Howard, OLB,
3. Michael Robinson, WR
3. Jeremy Trueblood, OT
4. Kai Parham, MLB
I would be tempted to go for McNeill of Auburn or Winston of Miami at OT in second round too instead of Howard

Ouch!!! out of those 5 players...MAYBE 2 starters...not too great...I like Bush....Howard at OLB isnt a need and probably wouldnt upgrade Greenwood that much...

Robinson didnt run that fast and has never played WR...not a good pick

Trueblood from what I hear is destined to be a RT....not a good pick in the 3rd....and Parham ran around 5.10 in the 40 which is very slow for an MLB....his stock is on the drop

DominickDavisFan76
03-21-2006, 04:17 PM
Do u think a team will take him or reggie mcneal on the first day, by taking a chance on them, kind of like the broncos took a chance on.......Maurice Clarett.:spy:

Eyeguy
03-21-2006, 04:32 PM
Bush #1 is a given.

As for second round, we need an offensive tackle. I was going to say a TE but we picked up putz, so we take the best available tackle.

3rd round(two picks)
Best available linebacker. We don't need a corner, we have a decent one already in buchanan who is extremely cheap.
Then with our second 3rd rounder, if Reggie is available take him, there are quite a bit very successful receivers who played qb in college (one just won the superbowl mvp). I have watched Reggie play live in quite a bit of games, he had a crappy team around him, but he is a tremendous athlete, i would put his speed and quickness above vince youngs. Vince Young is however a better quarterback.

4th round
A safety, we already have a young good safety in glenn earl (who still has some upside, at notre dame he was great)
I would really like taking a risk for the SS out of Texas Tech in Dwayne Slay, that dude is a badass. He comes up and kills people. In the Texas game I was watching him lay out people left and right, he also made some big plays. His workout numbers might not be impressive but on the field he is just a guy if i was a player I would love to have out on the field with me.

5th round
Offensive linemen, add some depth.

6th round
CB or another linemen

I agree with ALL of this, execpt I think there will be someone we don't expect to drop to # 66. I would also consider trading 65 & 66 to draft A. Hodge