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F-minus67
03-18-2006, 05:36 PM
I was wondering after reading a few threads on this board, everyone is worried about the d line. But what about the LB corps? The only health starter is Greenwood. He will most likely be the weak side LB, while Wong who had a ACL injury last year is projected to be the MLB. So who will be the strong side LB? Orr is undersized and Peek could, but would be a better DE. This leaves either the draft or free agency. And last time I checked there weren't many good LBs left. So does anyone have any idea on what the team will do? I mean there will be some good LBs left in the 2nd round when we pick.

real
03-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I think when kaillee is healthy he will be the strong side LB, so I think we will be needing a MLB

gtexan02
03-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I guess Polk could play MLB and put Wong at OLB

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 05:40 PM
I guess Polk could play MLB and put Wong at OLB

we need to draft a MLB
i think we should go for Abdul Hodge with our second 3rd rd pick

Dunta_23
03-18-2006, 05:41 PM
There is talk thet Terry Piece will be our MLB...he was signed after the super bowl I believe...there was a thread about it...

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=19885&highlight=terry+pierce

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 05:42 PM
There is talk thet Terry Piece will be our MLB...he was signed after the super bowl I believe...there was a thread about it...

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=19885&highlight=terry+pierce

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/6186282

he's ranked under......
1. E.J. Henderson
2. Boss Bailey (only guy Iv'e heard of)
3. Gerald Hayes
4. Clifton Smith
5. Victor Hobson
6. LaMarcus McDonald

in his draft class

texman8
03-18-2006, 05:46 PM
Depth Chart (LB)

Outside LB: Greenwood
Wong
Orr
Middle LB:Polk
Pierce

We need to get Hodge or Schlegel (Ohio State) in draft.

aj.
03-18-2006, 05:48 PM
Hodge or DQ wouldn't piss me off. Wong had two knee surgeries since October (torn patella tendon and ACL). He's less than 3 months into his ACL rehab and I would be very surprised if he was ready to go by Sept - and then at what speed. Polk is a FA. Orr can play some outside. Basically, we suck at LB.

Maddict5
03-18-2006, 05:50 PM
I was wondering after reading a few threads on this board, everyone is worried about the d line. But what about the LB corps? The only health starter is Greenwood. He will most likely be the weak side LB, while Wong who had a ACL injury last year is projected to be the MLB. So who will be the strong side LB? Orr is undersized and Peek could, but would be a better DE. This leaves either the draft or free agency. And last time I checked there weren't many good LBs left. So does anyone have any idea on what the team will do? I mean there will be some good LBs left in the 2nd round when we pick.

i think Wong will be SOLB but even if he is MLB- the draft is loaded with OLB's so i wouldnt worry

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 05:52 PM
I've never even heard of Terry, anyone want to give me a background on him?

Bubbajwp
03-18-2006, 05:53 PM
I was wondering after reading a few threads on this board, everyone is worried about the d line. But what about the LB corps? The only health starter is Greenwood. He will most likely be the weak side LB, while Wong who had a ACL injury last year is projected to be the MLB. So who will be the strong side LB? Orr is undersized and Peek could, but would be a better DE. This leaves either the draft or free agency. And last time I checked there weren't many good LBs left. So does anyone have any idea on what the team will do? I mean there will be some good LBs left in the 2nd round when we pick.I think Peek may be better suited for lb now. Because he is only 6'3 238 which isnt big enough to play DE.
I got this from http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396057

I have been saying for a few weeks that I want the Texans to draft a LB in the second round if winston and mangold are both gone. I would look at Abdul Hodges or Thomas Howard im leaning towards Howard.

Abdul Hodges http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/abdulhodge.html

Thomas Howard http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/thomashoward.html

Maddict5
03-18-2006, 05:55 PM
Hodge or DQ wouldn't piss me off. Wong had two knee surgeries since October (torn patella tendon and ACL). He's less than 3 months into his ACL rehab and I would be very surprised if he was ready to go by Sept - and then at what speed. Polk is a FA. Orr can play some outside. Basically, we suck at LB.

look at the 'workout warriors' thread or home page-Wong is 1 of them- i think he said he expects to be ready for training camp

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 05:55 PM
I think Peek may be better suited for lb now. Because he is only 6'3 238 which isnt big enough to play DE.
I got this from http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396057

I have been saying for a few weeks that I want the Texans to draft a LB in the second round if winston and mangold are both gone. I would look at Abdul Hodges or Thomas Howard im leaning towards Howard.

Abdul Hodges http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/abdulhodge.html

Thomas Howard http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/thomashoward.html

howard plays OLB, we need a MLB

Bubbajwp
03-18-2006, 05:56 PM
I dont see why he cant play mlb.

killerklown24
03-18-2006, 05:56 PM
Went to K-State and originally signed by the Broncos out of college.

I don't think our current GM seems to think that LB or OL is an issue with this team...you have to wonder what games he is wathcing...must still be watching PbucH tape...:ok:

Dunta_23
03-18-2006, 05:57 PM
If we draft an MLB I dont see it being in the first 2 rounds....I really like Gerris Wilkerson...Seems like he has a lot of potential

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/gerriswilkinson.html

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 05:59 PM
I dont see why he cant play mlb.

u probably also don't see why babin can't play MLB

aj.
03-18-2006, 06:01 PM
look at the 'workout warriors' thread or home page-Wong is 1 of them- i think he said he expects to be ready for training camp

I read the story. Of course he says that. Would he say anything different?

I don't think any NFL player can really be 'ready' 6 1/2 months after surgery to repair a torn ACL, much less ACL and patella tendon.

Bubbajwp
03-18-2006, 06:03 PM
Babin definetly wont be a good MLB ive stated that in a few other threads. Thomas Howard is 6'3 239 and ran a 4.4 40. So now you tell me why he cant.

Also I think Wong will be our MLB and that means Thomas Howard can play OLB.

ArlingtonTexan
03-18-2006, 06:09 PM
Babin definetly wont be a good MLB ive stated that in a few other threads. Thomas Howard is 6'3 239 and ran a 4.4 40. So know you tell me why he cant.

Also I think Wong will be our MLB and that means Thomas Howard can play OLB.

I have seen Howard play is he is athletic as they come, but has little feel for LB in even in college. He is a project that will take sometime in the pros.

Hodge or DQ wouldn't piss me off. Wong had two knee surgeries since October (torn patella tendon and ACL). He's less than 3 months into his ACL rehab and I would be very surprised if he was ready to go by Sept - and then at what speed. Polk is a FA. Orr can play some outside. Basically, we suck at LB.

Yes, if we had to line up three right now and play a football game, the Texans would be in horrible shape.

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 06:10 PM
Babin definetly wont be a good MLB ive stated that in a few other threads. Thomas Howard is 6'3 239 and ran a 4.4 40. So now you tell me why he cant.

Also I think Wong will be our MLB and that means Thomas Howard can play OLB.

I think if we can draft him and then with our third draft pick (if we pick up Nate Burleson) get a CB and I think our D will look a lot better, but that's just me.

keyfro
03-18-2006, 06:12 PM
the problem with wong playing period is that he's coming off of two serious knee injuries...he might have his linear speed back to pre-injury form but what about his lateral mobility...usually it takes linebackers longer to regain their form than d-lineman...especially a MLB...i think shantee orr can play strongside for the time being...abdul hodge in the third if we're lucky or d'qwell jackson in the second are probably our best bets...the problem with wilkerson is that he's very raw...that type of a linebacker doesn't need to be starting right away...thomas howard can play MLB IMO...as far as terry pierce is considered he was a second round pick in 03...he has decent speed...if you want a current NFL comparision look at jeremiah trotter his rookie year and that's probably were pierce is at now

Maddict5
03-18-2006, 06:15 PM
My mlb board is: Hawk
D'Quell
Hodge
Wilkinson

they're the only 4 that could be 1st day starters and therefore the only 1's ive any interest in

aj.
03-18-2006, 06:17 PM
the problem with wong playing period is that he's coming off of two serious knee injuries...he might have his linear speed back to pre-injury form but what about his lateral mobility...usually it takes linebackers longer to regain their form than d-lineman...especially a MLB...

That's where I was coming from. Seth Payne made it back in just under a year but he's just planting and pushing forward for the most part. Even then, he was nowhere near 100% when he came back. Any LB position is a totally different animal with all the planting and multi-direction movement.

Wolf
03-18-2006, 06:20 PM
wow, it is amazing thinking a caper's/fangio defense could be in shambles after 4 years
:crying:

when I mean shambles, I mean lots of holes to fill

dat_boy_yec
03-18-2006, 06:25 PM
My concern with Pierce is he's listed as 6'1'' 251 lbs. I know MLB's are usually slower, but has anyone actually seen this guy. I mean I like him adding depth and maybe taking the MLB spot but can he play. If he can than we are still thin at the LB spot. If we didn't trade down then we should land Jackson, or the best LB that falls out of the 1st rd. I think we should trade down if we target Hodge. I guess I have to trust Kubiak's judgement because he knows the guy, but still I would like to see more bodies added to our LB group.

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 06:26 PM
How is Pierce going to help us. If he was any good I think I might have heard of him before...

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 06:56 PM
How come there was no press release or anything, that would've been nice. If it was a big help to the team I think we would have known about when it happened, not a month later.

keyfro
03-18-2006, 07:03 PM
he got no press because he didn't play while he was at denver...and just because ya'll haven't heard of him doesn't mean he can't play...i saw him first hand when tech played k-state and he absolutely shut down all those short screen passes we threw...i've seen him a couple of times when denver came down to scrimage us during the pre-season...the guys isn't going to be brian urlacher or ray lewis...i'm just saying he's probably good enough to start if given the chance

rmartin65
03-18-2006, 07:14 PM
A MLB is needed. It is simple as that, we have no one the other team fears as a monster hitter.

Texas
03-18-2006, 07:24 PM
Orr doesnt have the size but could still fit in a olb situation. I beleive he would be alright there. However I think it would be better to put wong out there and get a new MLB.

Grid
03-18-2006, 07:26 PM
I dont see how Orr is undersized to play OLB. I see him and either Greenwood or Peek starting as OLBs.. Wong and Polk in the middle.

infantrycak
03-18-2006, 07:53 PM
Orr is undersized

Orr is 6' and 241 lbs. How is that undersized in comparison to:

Derrick Brooks 6' 235 lbs
Lance Briggs 6' 1" 240 lbs
Will Witherspoon 6' 1" 231 lbs
Akin Ayodele 6' 2" 246 lbs
Robert Thomas 6' 233 lbs

Those are the starting LOLB's for the top 5 4-3 D's last year.

infantrycak
03-18-2006, 07:56 PM
How is Pierce going to help us. If he was any good I think I might have heard of him before...

Pierce was a very good prospect (2nd round, 19th pick) drafted to back up Al Wilson--you haven't heard of him because of how good Al Wilson is (3 time pro-bowler) and Wilson has stayed healthy.

Wolf
03-18-2006, 08:41 PM
I am kinda hoping ahmad brooks is coming out in the supplement draft (as of feb 28th his father says he is staying a virginia) but can't find anything on the net to update this.

:drool:

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-18-2006, 08:45 PM
I'd love for Ernie Simms to somehow slip to the 2nd round but I don't see that happening. DeMeco Ryans is a more likely option and a player that I really like in this draft.

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 09:40 PM
Pierce was a very good prospect (2nd round, 19th pick) drafted to back up Al Wilson--you haven't heard of him because of how good Al Wilson is (3 time pro-bowler) and Wilson has stayed healthy.

I guess I'm just trying to point out the fact that I don't see him being more than a back-up for us. I'm sure Kubiak knows a lot about him though.

infantrycak
03-18-2006, 09:51 PM
I guess I'm just trying to point out the fact that I don't see him being more than a back-up for us. I'm sure Kubiak knows a lot about him though.

Why? I mean you said you didn't know anything about him so it isn't based on his play. Odell Thurman and Lofa Tatupa were both above average MLB's in their rookie years--neither would have beat Al Wilson out of his job.

Buzz
03-18-2006, 09:54 PM
It looks like the Texans are talking to Sam Cowart (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12300). I'd like to see them get him.

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 09:55 PM
It looks like the Texans are talking to Sam Cowart. I'd like to see them get him.

do you have a source

Buzz
03-18-2006, 10:00 PM
do you have a source
They said it on the channel 26 (Fox news) sports report.

Mightymike
03-18-2006, 10:05 PM
They said it the on channel 26 (Fox news) sports report.

if we did sign him it would be good for the short term. I still think we have to draft a MLB late day 1, early day 2

Grid
03-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Early day 2 is a possibility..maybe round 5. There are a few MLBs that will be available in the late 1st and 2nd rounds.. but then the talent drops drastically.

I honestly dont think that drafting an MLB this year is a good idea.. the draft class is just REALLY weak. We would be better off making due and hoping for better prospects in FA and the draft next season.

run-david-run
03-18-2006, 10:26 PM
Early day 2 is a possibility..maybe round 5. There are a few MLBs that will be available in the late 1st and 2nd rounds.. but then the talent drops drastically.

I honestly dont think that drafting an MLB this year is a good idea.. the draft class is just REALLY weak. We would be better off making due and hoping for better prospects in FA and the draft next season.
This is a pretty good linebacker core. MLB is not great, but overall it is by no means weak. I think we could easily get a starter at MLB or OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round. My money is on Abdul Hodge out of Iowa. He has been overshadowed by Chad Greenway because they are teammates, but he is a very good MLB. In my opnion, its between him and Davin Joseph for the 2nd round pick, both should be there, both will fill big holes.

keyfro
03-18-2006, 10:41 PM
abdul hodge would be a good pick up but i think MLB's in this draft will be on hold if eric winston falls to the second round...there is no reason to pass on him if here were to fall to the 33rd pick in the draft...if not then i say go for the top defensive player...whether that's jackson, hodge, or jonathan joseph...maybe even darnell bing or daniel bullocks for FS

dat_boy_yec
03-18-2006, 11:45 PM
I think it would be most beneficial to get Jackson because he can line up at any linebacker position. While I like Hodge if Pierce shows promise than what would happen to Hodge. I think our starting LBs should be given the chance to prove themselves. We could take a corner or safety in the second rd. to help our secondary. Damn I actually think the team is lining up well before the draft. Well, whatever they choose I hope its the best choice.

TexanFan881
03-18-2006, 11:54 PM
It looks like the Texans are talking to Sam Cowart (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12300). I'd like to see them get him.

I'd love to see him come here.:redtowel:

YoungTexanFan
03-19-2006, 12:05 AM
Why are all of you honestly talking about drafting a OLB??????

We have Greenwood who will play the weak side. Orr who will play the strong side. That leaves, Polk, who is actually an OLB. Wong is injured and will not be ready for the season, so don't count on him. Bennie will play this year before Wong.

We have Terry I guess who is fne with me for competition, but I am not that high on him. What our team needs is a MLB, not OLB. If we get desperate, Peek can play OLB in a pinch.

Are any of you confident enough in Polk/Terry to let them start? I for one am NOT confident enough. I present to yall, a choice, one that does not involve a pick this year, and one that requires no signing bonus. Your choice is Ahmad Brooks. He was kicked off the Virginia team for Drug/Alcohol violations, but will be an all-pro MLB. He is the best LB in the nation, and then Poluz, and then MAYBE Hawk. Brooks will be entering the Supp. draft. He should only cost us a third round pick next year.

Ahmad Brooks is our solution at MLB.

keyfro
03-19-2006, 12:21 AM
while i agree that ahmad brooks would be a quality player to put in at the MLB position keep one simple thing in mind...bob mcnair and casserly and kubiak want character guys only on this team...their drafting habits and their FA habits are consitant with that...i do no see them even putting up next years 7th rounder for him due to his drug problems

F-minus67
03-19-2006, 01:41 AM
The way I see it if the texans chose the draft to fix the LB problem in the second here are the options

MLB: D'Qwell Jackson, Marland

OLB: DeMeco Ryans, Alabama or Thomas Howard, UTEP

YoungTexanFan
03-19-2006, 08:31 AM
while i agree that ahmad brooks would be a quality player to put in at the MLB position keep one simple thing in mind...bob mcnair and casserly and kubiak want character guys only on this team...their drafting habits and their FA habits are consitant with that...i do no see them even putting up next years 7th rounder for him due to his drug problems

He made a mistake. He does not have a history of it, and he has more talent than any LB in this current draft or last years draft or even a few years back. We would be giving up a third round pick next year for our starting MLB for the next 10.

Does anyone know if he worked out at Virginia's pro day? I would like to see his numbers coming back off his minor injuries.

Texansbacker
03-19-2006, 11:06 AM
Orr is 6' and 241 lbs. How is that undersized in comparison to:

Derrick Brooks 6' 235 lbs
Lance Briggs 6' 1" 240 lbs
Will Witherspoon 6' 1" 231 lbs
Akin Ayodele 6' 2" 246 lbs
Robert Thomas 6' 233 lbs

Those are the starting LOLB's for the top 5 4-3 D's last year.


Note: Speaking of size, and I realize these are outside backers and not middle, but Al Wilson from the Broncos is 6' 240 lbs with TP coming in at 6' 1" 251, which would make him the heaviest linebacker (albeit 1 pound) on the Texans roster.

He must have some talent or he would not have been selected in the second round of the draft. Denver obviously selected not to tie up dollars for backing up a pro-bowler and will select another early rounder in the draft.

Wolf
03-19-2006, 02:18 PM
just curious what did Lavar Arrington play in washington? was he strickly a LB or didn't they move him all over the field at DE and LB to create mismatches?


I imagine he would be wanting too much money for the Texans to consider him.

PapaL
03-19-2006, 02:43 PM
just curious what did Lavar Arrington play in washington? was he strickly a LB or didn't they move him all over the field at DE and LB to create mismatches?


I imagine he would be wanting too much money for the Texans to consider him.

Didnt he already sign with NYG

**EDIT**
Not signed yet, still a FA.

mancunian
03-19-2006, 02:45 PM
just curious did any one mention Charlie Anderson for one of the OLB spots?

mancunian
03-19-2006, 02:45 PM
Didnt he already sign with NYG?

not sure apparently he was going to visit the Bengals as well

F-minus67
03-19-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure if I'm down with signning Cowart. He seems like a little better version of Jay Foreman.

bigTEXan8
03-19-2006, 04:03 PM
I don't think I'm down with Cowart either. But, I'll reserve my opinion till Kubiak makes a decision.

YoungTexanFan
03-19-2006, 04:04 PM
I'm not sure if I'm down with signning Cowart. He seems like a little better version of Jay Foreman.

I'm surely not down with Cowart.

Mightymike
03-19-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm surely not down with Cowart.

he's better than anything we have, so why not go for him. He's not guna be a star, but he's a legit starter at least

YoungTexanFan
03-19-2006, 04:19 PM
he's better than anything we have, so why not go for him. He's not guna be a star, but he's a legit starter at least

I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.

Mightymike
03-19-2006, 04:25 PM
I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.

you would rather have an unproven LB in Terry, a LB that got kicked out of college, and a rookie rather than an 8yr. All-Pro MLB, this guy isn't even that old

newbiefan
03-19-2006, 08:56 PM
Just throwin it out there...

Aaron Harris in the 6th round. I know they say he doesnt have NFL size, but he always seemed to make the plays and cover the field for Texas. At the worst, he could hold MLB until Wong fully recovers, and then provide depth as a backup.

YoungTexanFan
03-19-2006, 10:30 PM
you would rather have an unproven LB in Terry, a LB that got kicked out of college, and a rookie rather than an 8yr. All-Pro MLB, this guy isn't even that old

Yes. Terry is only here to tutor Brooks for me. Brooks is a Ray Lewis clone LB with the athletic ability similar to Arrington. McIntosh is a very good LB out of a VERY good school. Its the U.

WILLIEG
03-20-2006, 01:32 AM
I've been hearing that Pierce might be a fix to our MLB situation, however, i really don't know if he's any good since i never heard of him in college. But someone i did hear a lot about while he was in college was ILB Rocky Calmus. This guy was really good at getting to the ball carrier. So why hasn't anyone talked about him since he is a FA this year. I think he played for Tenn and was having a really great rookie year until he was hurt. I think he has been plagued by a hamsting problem which isn't anything to serious. I believe that he would be the kind of guy that you could pick up that would make an immediate impact to the defense. If I'm correct he was a 1st rounder.

Big B Texan Fan
03-20-2006, 01:48 AM
I've been hearing that Pierce might be a fix to our MLB situation, however, i really don't know if he's any good since i never heard of him in college. But someone i did hear a lot about while he was in college was ILB Rocky Calmus. This guy was really good at getting to the ball carrier. So why hasn't anyone talked about him since he is a FA this year. I think he played for Tenn and was having a really great rookie year until he was hurt. I think he has been plagued by a hamsting problem which isn't anything to serious. I believe that he would be the kind of guy that you could pick up that would make an immediate impact to the defense. If I'm correct he was a 1st rounder.
The bold areas pretty much sum it up.

He was a 3rd rd'r. 12th pick.

Read this: http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/03/08/38448692.shtml?Element_ID=38448692
That pretty much sums up his injury.

Maddict5
03-20-2006, 08:05 AM
I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.

gerris wilkinson and abdul hodge are too other good mid-round guys in the draft that probably could start on day 1 for us

Dunta_23
03-20-2006, 08:11 AM
We need to draft an MLB...if one of the studs (D'qwell Jackson or Abdul Hodge) falls to 33 Id strongly consider....or if one of the 2nd tier guys falls to 65 or 66 then you gotta take one there...A stud LB in a necessity in a good D

TEXANS84
03-22-2006, 09:45 AM
Texans | Team makes an offer to Cowart
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:48:13 -0800

Don Seeholzer, of the Pioneer Press, reports free agent LB Sam Cowart (Vikings) has a contract offer from the Houston Texans, but agent Paul Healy said Cowart is in no rush to make a decision. Healy said Cowart has had conversations with the Washington Redskins and has some possible visits coming up but would prefer to remain with the Minnesota Vikings.

Mightymike
03-22-2006, 09:53 AM
We need to draft an MLB...if one of the studs (D'qwell Jackson or Abdul Hodge) falls to 33 Id strongly consider....or if one of the 2nd tier guys falls to 65 or 66 then you gotta take one there...A stud LB in a necessity in a good D

neither will go in 1st round

wags
03-22-2006, 10:14 AM
Texans | Team makes an offer to Cowart
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:48:13 -0800

Don Seeholzer, of the Pioneer Press, reports free agent LB Sam Cowart (Vikings) has a contract offer from the Houston Texans, but agent Paul Healy said Cowart is in no rush to make a decision. Healy said Cowart has had conversations with the Washington Redskins and has some possible visits coming up but would prefer to remain with the Minnesota Vikings.

Well at least he is in a hurry to sign with us. :slap:

O.G.
03-22-2006, 11:31 AM
Well at least he is in a hurry to sign with us. :slap:

You mean, not in a hurry to sign with us. Also, another question for everyone.....What round pick you give for Amhad Brooks in the supplement draft if he goes in that draft?

beerlover
03-22-2006, 11:47 AM
You mean, not in a hurry to sign with us. Also, another question for everyone.....What round pick you give for Amhad Brooks in the supplement draft if he goes in that draft?

a 3rd. has serious character question marks :confused:

I would be more in favor of trading down & selecting A.J. Hawk issue resolved. for all of you who think Reggie Bush or Mario Williams even D'Brickashaw Ferguson would have a bigger impact on the team all Hawk would do is solidify the middle of the field & improve the Texans bottom rated rush defense by leading the team in tackles & have a legitimate shot at to lead the team in sacks. talk about value, did anyone catch the numbers the Seahawks threw @ Julian Peterson? Hawk will be a much more punishing MLB in the mold of a Brian Urlacher.

keyfro
03-22-2006, 12:00 PM
actually aj hawk is in the zach thomas mold...even he admitts it...hawk has the ability to play any of the linebacker positions and probably would have the most success in the middle IMO...as far as sam cowart is concerned he would be decent for a year maybe two...we also have jamie winborn in for a visit today...he was good when he was in san fransico but went to jacksonville last year and was a back-up...born in 1979 i believe still has some years in the nfl not sure if he's starting material

in regards to hodge and wilkerson i believe only one of them will make it to the third round and after wilkerson's performance at the GT's pro day i believe hodge could be there for us at the 65th pick in the draft...that would be a steal IMO

Texas
03-22-2006, 12:05 PM
We wont take hawk first...BROOKS BIA

michaelm
03-22-2006, 12:19 PM
He was a 3rd rd'r. 12th pick.

Read this: http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/03/08/38448692.shtml?Element_ID=38448692
That pretty much sums up his injury.



this article is dated 2003. Certainly there is more 411 in the last 2 years?


*edit*

recent link is pretty telling IMO.

http://fantasynews.sandbox.com/2005/news/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NFL&id=226

beerlover
03-22-2006, 02:45 PM
actually aj hawk is in the zach thomas mold...even he admitts it...hawk has the ability to play any of the linebacker positions and probably would have the most success in the middle IMO...

I could live with a Zach Thomas Mold MLB :) just a bigger, quicker nastier version IMO...

keyfro
03-23-2006, 07:35 AM
well abdul hodge improved his draft status at his pro day here's his numbers:

Abdul Hodge LB Hodge (6-0 3/8, 233) ran his 40s in 4.69 and 4.66 seconds. He also had 25 bench presses. In the other tests, he stood on his Combine performances.

from nfl.com

keyfro
03-23-2006, 02:34 PM
just scanning the nfl.com page over the pro days and came over this

Brian Iwuh LB Iwuh (6-0,227 pounds) had a problem with a hamstring and didn't run, but he did do position drills. He will run March 27 in Houston.

you can read into it i think...he would be a linebacker in the denver broncos mold where you go after guys who can run better and faster...might be someone they see pushing morlon greenwood for time in a year or two :stirpot:

bigTEXan8
03-23-2006, 03:24 PM
I think that the issue with everyone wanting to improve the d-line over the LBs is because I don't think the organization knows what they have in their current LB corp. The d-line did nothing last year to clog up the o-line, therefore the o-line was getting up to the next tier, the LBs. So maybe the new regime likes what they see in the current LB corp. I think Wong will flourish in the 4-3...so...JM:twocents: