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The Dude Abides
03-11-2006, 04:07 PM
Running with it: The Texans added a fullback in Jameel Cook (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5622) of the Bucs Saturday in what could be adding to an enhanced backfield.
Domanick Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6437) is the starting running back but the Texans are looking at drafting Reggie Bush with the first pick. The signing of Cook gives them a blocking back in what should be an enhanced running game.
The Texans will decide in a month whether or not to draft Bush or take quarterback Vince Young.


Link - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2364242

Discuss

bigTEXan8
03-11-2006, 04:11 PM
I personally think that's not that bad of a pick-up. I like it. This can only help DD, Morency, and hopefully Wells comes back.

the wonger need food
03-11-2006, 04:13 PM
Cool... a pass-catching FB!

Well... kinda.

travfrancis
03-11-2006, 04:16 PM
guess kubiak thinks hes better than norris

hot pickle
03-11-2006, 04:16 PM
i think he's a pretty good special teams player to, or am i think of someone else?

Fiddy
03-11-2006, 04:20 PM
What does this do for Norris???

TheRealJoker
03-11-2006, 04:22 PM
I remember when the Bucs moved Alstott to tailback for a little while to get this guy on the field...

tulexan
03-11-2006, 04:26 PM
Reggie is going to need someone to blast some holes through the line so he can get in the secondary and score some touchdowns.

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2006, 04:32 PM
Reggie is going to need someone to blast some holes through the line so he can get in the secondary and score some touchdowns.

Not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but I do not understand this line of thinking. We draft Carr and possibly Bush knowing that they need other parts to be successful? There is a salary cap. If the #1 pick in the draft can't get it done then trade out or draft someone like Mario Williams that can make a difference on his own. :confused:

Runner
03-11-2006, 04:35 PM
Regardless of what they do about Bush, this could be a sign of Davis/Morency at RB and Wells not being re-signed.

aj.
03-11-2006, 04:36 PM
Maybe Kubiak sees Kyle Johnson II in this guy.

tulexan
03-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Last time I checked there aren't too many 1 player teams. Every player drafted needs supporting pieces to make them better. Adding a good blocking back is important to this team because he would not only block for Reggie Bush, but for Domanick Davis and David Carr.

By your logic, a team shouldn't draft anyone at the #1 position.

Grid
03-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Im more worried about what this says for Wells.

The biggest selling point for Wells was that he could provide depth at RB and FB while performing well on special teams.

With Cook and Norris..we dont need Wells for depth at FB.. and if we draft Bush, Wells is less valuable there as well.

I wonder if we intend to try and keep Wells or not.

I really want to know how talks with Gaffney are going.

Texans>Colts
03-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Hell Yes we signed someone.:yahoo: :redtowel: :fans: :texflag:

The former Buc. I remember when he scored a touchdown in the Buc vs. Skins game Bucs won 36-35 on Alstott TD. Nice game to watch at the time cause all the other games were like 9ners vs. Cardinals

edo783
03-11-2006, 04:40 PM
A bit of a head scratcher this one. I thought Norris was supposed to be one of the better blocking FBs, so why this guy? Some injury to Norris we don't know about? Any thoughts?

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2006, 05:04 PM
By your logic, a team shouldn't draft anyone at the #1 position.

Bingo! Look at #1 picks since the institution of the salary cap era in 1993. Only one player started for a winning Super Bowl team that drafted him, Orlando Pace. We are better off taking Williams or Ferguson than a skill position.

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2006, 05:04 PM
A bit of a head scratcher this one. I thought Norris was supposed to be one of the better blocking FBs, so why this guy? Some injury to Norris we don't know about? Any thoughts?

I am confused as well.

the wonger need food
03-11-2006, 05:05 PM
A bit of a head scratcher this one. I thought Norris was supposed to be one of the better blocking FBs, so why this guy? Some injury to Norris we don't know about? Any thoughts?

Norris can't catch.

Kubiak plans to use this guy like he used his FB at Denver last season. Kyle Johnson (Denver's FB) had 5 TD receptions.

tulexan
03-11-2006, 05:06 PM
Even Williams and Ferguson rely on other players for their success.

If you have the #1 pick you take the best player in the draft. That player is Reggie Bush. You may not think he is, but you are not a GM, scout, or coach.

the wonger need food
03-11-2006, 05:09 PM
Does every thread have to turn into a debate over the draft... Geeeezzzz...

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2006, 05:10 PM
Even Williams and Ferguson rely on other players for their success.

If you have the #1 pick you take the best player in the draft. That player is Reggie Bush. You may not think he is, but you are not a GM, scout, or coach.

I must be in some parallel bizarro universe confined within a trapezoidal prison.

travfrancis
03-11-2006, 05:11 PM
tulexan have you ever made a post that didn't relate to reggie bush or vince young?

GoBlue
03-11-2006, 05:15 PM
The only way this makes sense is if Kubiak needs a more versatile FB who can catch. This must be the end of Wells- no big loss IMO. He was always too slow for a good RB and to small to be an impact FB. He wasn't known for his catching ability either.

tulexan
03-11-2006, 05:17 PM
tulexan have you ever made a post that didn't relate to reggie bush or vince young?

of course i have

Str8tupg42k1
03-11-2006, 05:19 PM
Norris can't catch.

Kubiak plans to use this guy like he used his FB at Denver last season. Kyle Johnson (Denver's FB) had 5 TD receptions.

The one Dunta lit up last time remember!
lolol

infantrycak
03-11-2006, 05:29 PM
This must be the end of Wells- no big loss IMO. He was always too slow for a good RB and to small to be an impact FB.

Huh?--Wells is 252 lbs--the same size as the two pro bowl FB's Mack Strong and Lorenzo Neal. Cook is 237 lbs.

Headlights of a Carr
03-11-2006, 05:31 PM
Don't know much about the guy but man we are active today and I'ma lovin it!

The Dude Abides
03-11-2006, 05:43 PM
The Houston Texans have agreed to a contract with unrestricted free agent FB Jameel Cook it was announced today.
Cook (5-10, 237) played in all 16 games with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this past season catching seven passes for 43 yards. His lone touchdown in 2005 was a historical feat. In Week 16, Cook caught a nine-yard score, the 900th touchdown in the Buccaneers’ 30 years of existence. Throughout his career Cook has utilized his hands as he had a career-high 20 catches for 120 yards in 2003.
Cook, a sixth round pick in the 2001 draft from Illinois, was a major contributor on the Bucs special teams, finishing second on the team with 23 tackles. He had a season-high five special teams stops against Detroit.


In respons to Dunta23's question about his special team ability.

Vinny
03-11-2006, 05:53 PM
I am confused as well.We are going to be a running ball club and we are going to have some WCO elements...so that means your fullback needs to block and catch the ball well. I never figured Wells would be back....even more so now. Wells isn't a very good run blocker.

Texans34Life
03-11-2006, 05:59 PM
Didn't this guy block for Cadillac and Pittman? Then this is a good pick up....

:fans:

edo783
03-11-2006, 06:39 PM
We are going to be a running ball club and we are going to have some WCO elements...so that means your fullback needs to block and catch the ball well. I never figured Wells would be back....even more so now. Wells isn't a very good run blocker.

While I think all that is true, it makes me scratch my head because we already have Norris for a fullback and he is supposed to be a top level run blocker. Are we keeping two FBs? On first look that doesn't make much sense, but I suppose there could be a way to use them. If we cut Norris, then it would make sense to keep Wells. Just not sure how this is to play out.

Maddict5
03-11-2006, 08:41 PM
Don't know much about the guy but man we are active today and I'ma lovin it!

excuse me. i think you're looking for www.clevelandbrowns.com:ok:

aj.
03-11-2006, 09:09 PM
The one Dunta lit up last time remember!
lolol

Dunta was on the ground through the timeout while Johnson trotted off the field. Yeah, I guess he really lit him up. I will give Dunta credit though, because the rest of the team had already quit and he was still flying around in the 4th.

12Gage
03-11-2006, 09:40 PM
I have watched a lot of Buc's games over the years and while Cook isn't great, he get's the job done. He is a pretty good special teamer. A pretty good reciever out of the backfield, and a pretty good run blocker.
I like this signing.

aj.
03-11-2006, 09:46 PM
Of course, how could I have forgotten..... There was #8 with a Bowie knife clenched in his teeth, his jersey ripped open at the chest, hair blowing in the wind, urging his teammates to follow him across the battlefield ....

PapaL
03-11-2006, 10:11 PM
For a running team, this is a good pickup. This guy is a Lorenzo Neal type guy. Not sure about his pass catching, but should be able to blow open holes.

Carr Bombed
03-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Of course, how could I have forgotten..... There was #8 with a Bowie knife clenched in his teeth, his jersey ripped open at the chest, hair blowing in the wind, urging his teammates to follow him across the battlefield .... Last year I think the only thing the team was trying to cross was the finish line, as in put a end to a dismal season. Teams that have nothing to play for usually shut it down, especially when they know their coach isn't going to be returning.

bATXle red
03-11-2006, 10:56 PM
hope he picks up blocks well

dirty steve
03-12-2006, 12:08 AM
so moran norris is gonzo, right?

samomin
03-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Well I hope they keep Norris along with Cook. Wells can go elsewhere cuz after the cook signing we don't need him. Morency needs to step up as the backup, and if we take Reggie Bush, then these five would be a good backfield for us. (I consider both Davis and Bush as starters at RB).

Texan in Japan
03-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Norris could be gone and we could resign Wells. Wells can back-up Cook, play ST and be an emergency back.

dirty steve
03-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Norris could be gone and we could resign Wells. Wells can back-up Cook, play ST and be an emergency back.

i could see him signing with a team that will give him at least the chance that he got in 2005.

MorKnolle
03-12-2006, 12:58 AM
For now it sounds like they plan on keeping Norris, he is a better blocker but isn't as athletic and probably isn't as good of a runner as Cook, but then again we haven't gotten to see Norris get a chance to run the last couple years here. I think Wells is gone, the Texans don't sound like they are overly concerned with resigning him and there isn't much reason to pay him very much money at all, we could find a 5th-6th round RB in Riggs or Humes that actually run with power and are cheaper than Wells. If we do draft Bush, I think Morency or Davis (likely Morency) will be gone, and I've heard Morency somewhat implied he'd ask for a trade if they got Bush rather than sitting as our #3 RB and not seeing the field. From purely a talent standpoint I'd probably rather keep Morency, I think he's the same type of RB as Davis but a little bigger and faster, but we have Davis locked in with a pretty big contract so it would be harder to move him and we'd take a decent cap hit for trading him and he's proven to be productive, so I think we'd keep Davis, look to trade Morency, then have Bush and Davis as our feature RBs and Cook and maybe Norris as FBs.

whiskeyrbl
03-12-2006, 01:01 AM
looks as if we are trying to bolster line in FA not only looking at Flannagan but Hallen from SD
Ht: 6-4 Wt: 305
Position: OG
Projected as: OG
Position Rank: 10
Date of Birth: 3/9/1975
Experience: 8
High School: Mentor HS
(Mentor, OH)
College: Kent State



Biography:
Bob Hallen is a versatile player that displays good awareness and quickness. A sound technician, Hallen is solid in his recognition and positioning. Speed and quickness are critical to his overall productivity, as he is not a physical lineman and has trouble with the bigger defensive tackles when not in position or beaten to the point. Plays through the play and will finish blocks, even on the second level. Nutten has showed some signs of slowing as he does not change direction well, but is still a better than average player at this point of his career.
Worthy of a 2-3 year deal?

texan279
03-12-2006, 02:11 AM
from www.kffl.com

Texans | Contract update: J. Cook
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:15:46 -0800

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans FB Jameel Cook signed a five-year, $5 million contract to join the Texans Saturday, March 11. Cook will compete with FB Moran Norris for the starting job at fullback.

touttail
03-12-2006, 08:11 AM
ESPN.com reports the Houston Texans have agreed to an undisclosed contract with free agent FB Jameel Cook (Buccaneers).

He was a solid back up and excellent ST player for 5 years here in Tampa. I think with Alstott getting his deal done, Cook realized he wasn't going to get a starting chance or much opprotunity in this offense so he decided to move on.

Might be a good goal line weapon!

Bobby 119C

Coach C.
03-12-2006, 08:12 AM
He did get us for about a 1M a year or so.

swtbound07
03-12-2006, 08:50 AM
He did get us for about a 1M a year or so.


He should have held out for a sage rosenfels'esque deal.

CheckStation
03-12-2006, 10:20 AM
Obviously, our brilliant GM still has his fingers in the Pie. With the Texans in dire straights, desperately in need of quality personnel on both sides of the ball, we sign a Fullback. A position most NFL teams are eliminating (and for good reason).

Hey Front Office! Here is your shopping list (in order of need) from a fan that has attended every home game the Texans have played (if you can call it that…): Offensive Left Guard, Middle Linebacker, Offensive Right Tackle, Tight End, Cornerbacks (2), Strong Safety, Running Back.

Don’t even think about keeping your first pick. The Texans could have Bush and Shaun Alexander in the same backfield and still yield another 2 & 14 season.

mancunian
03-12-2006, 11:03 AM
What does this do for Norris???

a bit of competition for the FB spot

mancunian
03-12-2006, 11:06 AM
Obviously, our brilliant GM still has his fingers in the Pie. With the Texans in dire straights, desperately in need of quality personnel on both sides of the ball, we sign a Fullback. A position most NFL teams are eliminating (and for good reason).

every team carries a FB, and the best RB's in the business need a good blocking FB to follow. Look at Mack Strong at the Seahawks. Alexander has a given a lot of credit for his success to Mack (and the Oline).

mancunian
03-12-2006, 11:08 AM
For now it sounds like they plan on keeping Norris, he is a better blocker but isn't as athletic and probably isn't as good of a runner as Cook, but then again we haven't gotten to see Norris get a chance to run the last couple years here. I think Wells is gone, the Texans don't sound like they are overly concerned with resigning him and there isn't much reason to pay him very much money at all, we could find a 5th-6th round RB in Riggs or Humes that actually run with power and are cheaper than Wells. If we do draft Bush, I think Morency or Davis (likely Morency) will be gone, and I've heard Morency somewhat implied he'd ask for a trade if they got Bush rather than sitting as our #3 RB and not seeing the field. From purely a talent standpoint I'd probably rather keep Morency, I think he's the same type of RB as Davis but a little bigger and faster, but we have Davis locked in with a pretty big contract so it would be harder to move him and we'd take a decent cap hit for trading him and he's proven to be productive, so I think we'd keep Davis, look to trade Morency, then have Bush and Davis as our feature RBs and Cook and maybe Norris as FBs.


I'd be happy with Bush and Davis at RB and Cook and Norris at FB. Though I'd like to seeus keep Wells.

aj.
03-12-2006, 11:42 AM
I have just firgured out that you guys that want Carr to go and be a pro bowler and be a playoff guy are the same guys that complain(ed) about the coaching and how bad our WRs are and that we dont have a TE and we need more weapons and the oline play is horrible and the fact that our QB RARELY has time to set his feet and be comfortable and the fact we dont have a Defense for the most part and with all this stuff going on you still want this guy to show you a pro bowl and playoff game, game in and game out.
"Take the team on his shoulders", some of you say, well the team has been on his shoulders for 4 years now, he needs a little help.


Nice generalization. If you wouldn't be consumed with defending each and every criticism of #8, warranted or not, you would recognze that most of the fans who see the big picture can see the weaknesses of the former coaching staff and weaknesses across multiple areas of the team including the QB. Recognizing that #8 isn't perfect is the first step in the program.

Yes, it's ridiculous to expect your QB to perform at "Pro Bowl and playoff game" level, game in and game out, but after 60 NFL starts I'm still waiting to use my second hand to continue counting the number of times I've seen that caliber of performance from Carr.

I happen to think Vince will be a better QB than Carr in a couple of years. So shoot me. I am also intrigued by what Carr might be able to do in Kubiak's system. I wrote that on January 5, I'm writing it on March 12, and I will continue to believe that until proven otherwise. In the meantime, I hope the Texans go 11-5 and make the playoffs every year.

How can you say this team has been on Carr's shoulders for 4 years, when the next minute you complain about him being a victim of unimaginative coaching and play calling (among everything else). Stick to the "he was being held back" and "had no protection" arguments. They are more defendable.

I just checked the thread subject. Jameel Cook.

I hate when threads go astay but I'm not going to erase this since I don't want the last 5 minutes of my life to be wasted... :rolleyes:

tulexan
03-12-2006, 11:46 AM
Hey Front Office! Here is your shopping list (in order of need) from a fan that has attended every home game the Texans have played (if you can call it that…): Offensive Left Guard, Middle Linebacker, Offensive Right Tackle, Tight End, Cornerbacks (2), Strong Safety, Running Back.


McKinney is going to be the LG. We can draft a RT in the second round. There is a reasonable chance that we will get Putzier. We can draft a CB (don't need 2). We can draft a SS. And we are most likely getting Reggie Bush.

Shopping list complete

Trenches
03-12-2006, 11:47 AM
What about a pass rushing DE? A MLB and at least one if not two OLB's? Dont forget at least one WR.

Vinny
03-12-2006, 11:48 AM
McKinney is going to be the LG. We can draft a RT in the second round. There is a reasonable chance that we will get Putzier. We can draft a CB (don't need 2). We can draft a SS. And we are most likely getting Reggie Bush.

Shopping list completeall we have are ss's...we need a fs