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Texas
02-28-2006, 06:31 PM
The titans recently released a report saying they will probably be getting rid of LT Brad Hopkins...If so I think he would be a great addition to our team because we need a LT really bad..Then we could leave alone D'Brick and go for Bush or Mario Williams...Just seeing yalls opinion on this subject.

The Dude Abides
02-28-2006, 06:36 PM
I think he would be a good addition. However, with his age creeping up I would prefer to keep the contract short/cheap.

infantrycak
02-28-2006, 06:37 PM
He is 36 years old. I know OLmen last longer than most positions, but that is still getting up there. He missed games each of the last two years and last year struggled more with 5.5 sacks given up and 12 penalties called on him.

BuffSoldier
02-28-2006, 07:31 PM
NOOOOOOOOO. He will be 36 by the time the season starts. He is not what we want, he is actually the opposite of what we want. He is old and slow, we want young and athletic.

And I want to know, what is the problem with Brick, he is obviously the most talented athletic OT in years and we may be able to bring in John Abraham and still get him. He is definitely worth the money. Why do you guys consistently try to fill in our LT spot with old and below average players, just so we wont take Brick in round 1. There are not many good young FA LT prospects. Do you know why, because know team is dumb enough to let a top teir LT slip between their fingers.

cap1
02-28-2006, 07:32 PM
I don't want him because he is 36 years old. I think we should save our cash and pay a decent FA or a great player (ie. LeCharles Bentley).

Trap_Star
02-28-2006, 07:38 PM
NOOOOOOOOO. He will be 36 by the time the season starts. He is not what we want, he is actually the opposite of what we want. He is old and slow, we want young and athletic.

And I want to know, what is the problem with Brick, he is obviously the most talented athletic OT in years and we may be able to bring in John Abraham and still get him. He is definitely worth the money. Why do you guys consistently try to fill in our LT spot with old and below average players, just so we wont take Brick in round 1. There are not many good young FA LT prospects. Do you know why, because know team is dumb enough to let a top teir LT slip between their fingers.

Thats what im talkin' bout!!! we have the chance to possibly draft the best LT to come out this decade!!:twocents:

HJam72
02-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Thats what im talkin' bout!!! we have the chance to possibly draft the best LT to come out this decade!!:twocents:

And, even though he's a rookie, he could help the team by starting at RT immediately.

cap1
02-28-2006, 07:52 PM
And, even though he's a rookie, he could help the team by starting at RT immediately.


That is good and will help so much. Please no players heading into the Retirement Home.

stevo3883
02-28-2006, 09:55 PM
And, even though he's a rookie, he could help the team by starting at RT immediately.


meh hes not much of a RT prospect.

poor run blocker, not overly strong... hes a LT all the way because his main strength is his athleticism. thats the only reason hes projected so high. potential.

he didnt play like a top 5 pick this season.

Texas
02-28-2006, 10:19 PM
I didnt concider his age factor...the reason tho I would want to find a alternate to drafting D-Brick is because with a elite LT and Bush or someone I just think it would be better to use our first pick on someone else but I do like brick and would be happy with that if we picked him

Koolbrz
02-28-2006, 10:26 PM
The titans recently released a report saying they will probably be getting rid of LT Brad Hopkins...If so I think he would be a great addition to our team because we need a LT really bad..Then we could leave alone D'Brick and go for Bush or Mario Williams...Just seeing yalls opinion on this subject.


BH is up there in age, but it would not hurt to bring him here for a couple of yrs. You know, while we can develop a rookie at the position. Just a thought.

Maddict5
03-01-2006, 05:06 AM
does any1 else see that this mean d'brick will probably be gone if we trade with the jets

Frills
03-01-2006, 09:35 AM
Isn't there dirt younger than Hopkins?

edo783
03-01-2006, 09:51 AM
does any1 else see that this mean d'brick will probably be gone if we trade with the jets

Yup

Keldar
03-01-2006, 11:24 AM
Do we have a Methuselah smiley? :)

TwinSisters
05-10-2006, 06:06 PM
I did a search on the forum and couldn't find anyone pointing this out... so I am going to note it here. ( just for the football junkies )

Brad Hopkins is the Tackle the Houston Oilers drafted in 1993 ahead of Houston native and Texas Southern product Michael Strahan.

Exascor
05-10-2006, 06:14 PM
So why necro bump this thread? :shocked

TwinSisters
05-10-2006, 06:48 PM
I wouldn't bump it if you could get it to stop from bumping. It's mostly just to note it because I didn't see anyone else talking about it or pointing it out in the past posts. It will come up again in the future because of the Vince Young debate.

It's still timely because of Casserly, draft decisions, and for those handful of people that might like to weigh Casserly against other Houston GMs.

aj.
05-10-2006, 06:54 PM
If you are somehow drawing a comparison between Strahan and Vince, I think that might be a wee bit of a stretch.... especially since Casserly had nothing to do with the non-selection of either.

TwinSisters
05-10-2006, 07:05 PM
If you are somehow drawing a comparison between Strahan and Vince, I think that might be a wee bit of a stretch.... especially since Casserly had nothing to do with the non-selection of either.

no not really at all. It's more about looking at how particular Texans get washed with time. Few people think of Strahan as a Texas ball player ( outside of the hardcore junkies ). So in that light it could be said that Young could wash like Strahan did and the same will could be said for Casserly's pickings or non-pickings.

I doubt it because of the Rose Bowl glitz, but you never know until you know ( if you know what I mean )

Vinny
05-10-2006, 07:12 PM
We had a pretty good DE named Jesse Baker at that time. I think we were needing to replace Doug France or Mo Townes then...I don't remember when Harvey Salem was traded but I think he was at RT. I don't think this mirrors the VY situation at all. jmo

aj.
05-10-2006, 07:23 PM
Not sure what Jesse Baker has to do with anything since he preceeded Mike Strahan by 10 years. So did Salem.

Vinny
05-10-2006, 08:08 PM
I'm stuck in the wrong decade...it's been a long month or so for me. My head hasn't been in this lately.

TwinSisters
05-10-2006, 09:51 PM
There are a few points that I want to make or highlight:

Casserly is not the first GM in Houston to pass on a native Houston product.

This doesn't mean Casserly has failed yet in this sense, because we don't know how Young will pan out. Yes you can say it was his non-pick, sure. He did however say to blame him, not Mario for passing on Bush and Young. If not, then put it on Kubiak ( that's even better for this topic because Kubiak and Sherman are Aggies from 1993 )
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The main reason for tagging this onto the end of a Brad Hopkins FA thread/topic is to highlight that a native was passed up before in the past and it turned out so-so for the city. That is to say you don't have to be Casserly to make that kind of call.

There are a few threads floating around that talk about how 'can you' pass up on a sure fire winner from your own city... and I couldn't find a single person that remembers Strahan. ( so here is one )

With that I will refresh some memories and tell the story of that which is at least known to most of the dogs that I ran with in west Houston 93'.

Strahan was overshadowed in the local media/common mouths because of the Aggies and RC Slocum's Wrecking Crew defense. They were just coming off a killing of what was then a powerhouse Florida football team in the Cotton Bowl. And the bulk of scouts/coaches/media folks were in love with this trendy attacking defense ( see draft 92 ). The Aggies then went undefeated until they met up with Notre Dame... but the locals were still howling Aggie going into 93.

It's ironic that Sherman and Kubiak were part of that particular Aggie squad that dampened Strahan.

I remember saying I hope we pick Strahan up and thinking how it would help out having a local super-hero come in when times were at their all time low ( and it didn't get any lower then 1993 Houston ).

The same debate went on then, as it is now, did for the past 6 months, as it will go on for a few more years. Granted then the city home boy faction was much smaller with Strahan then it is with Young, but all the same stuff was said by the same sides. We need O to score, we need D, you don't draft a guy because he is from your city, you draft for need, you draft the best guy available, and so forth.

Houston actually traded up to get Brad Hopkins, when Strahan was still out there. What we had on the D-line was an ageing 3

Childress ( Texas A&M )
Jones ( Northeastern )
Fuller ( North Carolina )

The point here is that we had good guys just like we have a good QB now ( when we passed on Young ). They passed on Strahan and he went on to have his soon to be HOF career elsewhere. If Young does the same thing, it will have not be so novel, because Strahan did it before.

I am not saying it is a perfect fit, exact same scenario kinda thing, but there are parallels. There are differences too... Strahan was from a small school ( but famous: Kenny Burrough ) and didn't have HOF written on his resume` before he was drafted. BUT there was a handful of us that wanted him because he was a good player and from Houston... along with being from a worthy school and conference that has put out some extremely good HOFers in the past ( perhaps two of the best that have ever played ).

here's a link
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Almanac/Draft/DraftShouldve_1993.htm

What if Mario Williams turns out like Brad Hopkins and Young like a Strahan? I don't think I could fault Casserly either way, but Aggies... now that's a different story.