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BuffSoldier
02-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Brooks is definitely a top talent, and if he had decided to coem out this year, he may have been the top LB selected. He may have had a tough time beating out Hawk for that spot, but he has the measurables to be the better player.

Now, he was kicked off his team and I dont doubt that he throws his hat into the supplemental draft ring, so if the Texans trade down with the Jets and get a first from next year, then we could choose to use one of our 1st round supp. draft picks to take this guy. Then we would have Ferguson, Brooks and we would still have a first rounder next year.

Now the Texans havent had much success with the supplemental draft (tony hollings), but Brooks is more of a prospect and less of a gamble. What do you think??

Coach C.
02-18-2006, 01:11 PM
Brooks first it has been stated that he was not kicked off the team from the Virginia AD. The article to speak of was wrong possibly. Other than that Brooks is talented, but injury prone. He would have been the third LB taken behind Greenway and Hawk. He would end up being likely the best of the bunch, but he would be a solid option to play LB for anyteam.

YoungTexanFan
02-18-2006, 10:37 PM
Brooks first it has been stated that he was not kicked off the team from the Virginia AD. The article to speak of was wrong possibly. Other than that Brooks is talented, but injury prone. He would have been the third LB taken behind Greenway and Hawk. He would end up being likely the best of the bunch, but he would be a solid option to play LB for anyteam.

Coach, I really think he would be the first LB taken if he tests out at the combine like he should, and he shows he is clear of injuries. He will be the best 1st round LB in 2 years. He is the closest thing to Arrington you will see in quite a while. Hawk is the #3 LB in this draft if we are including Brooks.

I am also not entirely sure if he is on the team or entering the draft. If he enters, to answer the topic question, I would be runing out to the podium at pick #33 to get him. I wouldn't mind taking him in the first, but only after a few trade downs...maybe around 18? He is that good folks.

F-minus67
02-18-2006, 11:10 PM
I would still take Hawk and Greenway over Brooks. Brooks might be the best athlete at LB since Arrington, but he isn't even close to being the tackler or having the instints that Arrington had. Hawk and Greenway are still more complete players and don't have the injuries that Brooks has had.

travfrancis
02-18-2006, 11:45 PM
id take brooks with our 2nd rd pick in the supplemental draft

Texan in Japan
02-19-2006, 05:42 AM
id take brooks with our 2nd rd pick in the supplemental draft

Ditto, but someone may take him w/ mid-late 1st.

Coach C.
02-19-2006, 06:34 AM
Coach, I really think he would be the first LB taken if he tests out at the combine like he should, and he shows he is clear of injuries. He will be the best 1st round LB in 2 years. He is the closest thing to Arrington you will see in quite a while. Hawk is the #3 LB in this draft if we are including Brooks.

I am also not entirely sure if he is on the team or entering the draft. If he enters, to answer the topic question, I would be runing out to the podium at pick #33 to get him. I wouldn't mind taking him in the first, but only after a few trade downs...maybe around 18? He is that good folks.

YTF I agree. Greenway and Brooks are the closest things to Arrington and Urlacher for a while. I answered the question of where I thought he would go. Coming in late to the party, he would be excluded from the combine and only have his Virginia pro-day. He has not been training at one of the draft performance institutes and the main reason he went back to school was because he was banged up. He is a stud and I get excited thinking about the possiblility of next year having a high pick and a mid round pick in the first because we traded down. Could you imagine AP and Brooks in the first round next year. Hello serious step up. Other than that I agree he is likely the most talented LB in the draft, but his question marks and off-field crap would have dropped him.

YoungTexanFan
02-19-2006, 07:52 AM
YTF I agree. Greenway and Brooks are the closest things to Arrington and Urlacher for a while. I answered the question of where I thought he would go. Coming in late to the party, he would be excluded from the combine and only have his Virginia pro-day. He has not been training at one of the draft performance institutes and the main reason he went back to school was because he was banged up. He is a stud and I get excited thinking about the possiblility of next year having a high pick and a mid round pick in the first because we traded down. Could you imagine AP and Brooks in the first round next year. Hello serious step up. Other than that I agree he is likely the most talented LB in the draft, but his question marks and off-field crap would have dropped him.

I really think that if he tests out like he should, teams will overlook a lot of this question marks. I dont think any team would spend a first round pick in the sup. draft, especially with next years crop. I would spend pick #33 or my second round sup. draft pick. If he test out really well, I would even trade back up intot he first for him.

For anyone who thinks I am just getting on this guys wagon, I have been on it since last year.

rmartin65
02-19-2006, 08:41 AM
If we trade down and get the Jets or somebody's first round pick for next year, pick him in the supp draft first.

travfrancis
02-19-2006, 12:32 PM
Ditto, but someone may take him w/ mid-late 1st.

very true, i could see the steelers using a 1st on him, i'd say its about 50/50 he'd make it out of the 1st round and then we'd have first dibbs in the 2nd round.

i'd use a first on him IF we traded down this year and picked up a 2nd 1st rounder for next season.

kastofsna
02-19-2006, 01:07 PM
i wouldn't take him. i doubt many teams would either. in a draft loaded with good linebackers, i don't think teams would be willing to risk a pick next year on him. he's out of shape and the possibility of this latest concern is a turnoff. he's not a "special" player either that would warrant a high pick. look at manny wright last year...a freak talent at DT who could dominate the line and he lasted till the 5th round

rmartin65
02-21-2006, 03:14 PM
So, any new news about him? Is he really entering the draft?

AlbinoRat
02-21-2006, 05:19 PM
Everything that I can find has him in the draft. He and his teammate Kai Parham are both guys that we could consider.

rmartin65
02-21-2006, 06:57 PM
Everything that I can find has him in the draft. He and his teammate Kai Parham are both guys that we could consider.
Thanks. Can you imagine both of them on the Texans? That would be sweet.

YoungTexanFan
02-21-2006, 07:12 PM
i wouldn't take him. i doubt many teams would either. in a draft loaded with good linebackers, i don't think teams would be willing to risk a pick next year on him. he's out of shape and the possibility of this latest concern is a turnoff. he's not a "special" player either that would warrant a high pick. look at manny wright last year...a freak talent at DT who could dominate the line and he lasted till the 5th round

If you are talking supp. draft, manny was projected only to go as high as the 3rd if he was luck. He is a cry-baby.

Brooks is different, he is that "special" player you say he is not. He would warrent a high pick in the regular draft, and probally a second round pick in the supp. draft. I think a lot of teams would be vying for him if he test out well.

kastofsna
02-21-2006, 08:20 PM
If you are talking supp. draft, manny was projected only to go as high as the 3rd if he was luck. He is a cry-baby.

Brooks is different, he is that "special" player you say he is not. He would warrent a high pick in the regular draft, and probally a second round pick in the supp. draft. I think a lot of teams would be vying for him if he test out well.
he wasn't a crybaby till after he was drafted. and i hope saban makes him cry again. if he can play like he did in his rookie year....i hope he cries like a little girl for 8 hours a day

rmartin65
02-21-2006, 09:01 PM
he wasn't a crybaby till after he was drafted. and i hope saban makes him cry again. if he can play like he did in his rookie year....i hope he cries like a little girl for 8 hours a day
Are you saying he played well his rookie year? If you are, I looked up his stats and 4 tackles, and 1 sack is not really good. If you were not, then my bad, I misunderstood your post.

kastofsna
02-21-2006, 09:29 PM
Are you saying he played well his rookie year? If you are, I looked up his stats and 4 tackles, and 1 sack is not really good. If you were not, then my bad, I misunderstood your post.
yeah i did. because he dominated when he was in the game. look up his stats again, you'll still see the same thing, which is why you're supposed to WATCH THE GAMES when judging talent. only played 3 games, but in those 3 games, he was a menace at the line. in the buffalo game he completely embarassed the interior linemen on several occasions. once he sees the field more, he'll be a force to be reckoned with

keyfro
02-22-2006, 11:54 AM
brooks would be worth a high pick in the supplemental draft which is what i hear he is going to do...unless the nfl grants him a late entry to this april's draft...if we don't pick up a guy to be our middle linebacker he is definetly a player worth spending a 2nd round pick on in order to get

rmartin65
02-23-2006, 02:20 PM
yeah i did. because he dominated when he was in the game. look up his stats again, you'll still see the same thing, which is why you're supposed to WATCH THE GAMES when judging talent. only played 3 games, but in those 3 games, he was a menace at the line. in the buffalo game he completely embarassed the interior linemen on several occasions. once he sees the field more, he'll be a force to be reckoned with
Its hard to find Dolphin games in Lebanon Ohio, Bengalville. I could not see any games so I did the best I could to find stats. I never said he was bad, just wondered what his stats were.

texman8
04-09-2006, 07:32 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-00875sy0apr09,0,4375623.story?coll=dp-sports-local

Brooks is a great prospect but he has alot of red flags.

rmartin65
04-09-2006, 08:20 PM
I still say he'd be nice to have in the supp draft.

Wolf
04-09-2006, 08:45 PM
he'd be nice to bring in :drool:

Errant Hothy
04-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Espically for a 2nd nest year, assuming were able to talk to him and Kubes and Co. think they can straighten him out some.

Trapped
04-09-2006, 10:08 PM
If we offer a next year 1st round or 2nd round. i would rather just trade up and get Ernie Sims. Sims is just as good as hawk, just not as hyped.

kiwitexansfan
04-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Character issues scare me with any player... a 1st or 2nd is way too much.... I am not sure I would even part with a 6th or 7th

cap1
04-09-2006, 11:22 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-00875sy0apr09,0,4375623.story?coll=dp-sports-local

Brooks is a great prospect but he has alot of red flags.


There is more to that quote that people need to read before they think this guy is worth a first day pick.

Said the NFL source: "The NFL front-office personnel is gonna ask themselves, 'If he can't comply with a stringent, professional, rigorous schedule that Al Groh has for his team, then how do we expect him to comply with our rules that we have at this level?' "

Brooks raises a red flag because he couldn't fulfill his potential in a linebacker-friendly system, the source said. Brooks' physical condition also is an issue. He played just six games last season and participated in just three weeks of U.Va.'s offseason workouts, according to a current player. "So he can't be in shape," the source said.

Wolf
04-15-2006, 08:13 PM
anyone hear anything else lately?

Wolf
04-24-2006, 06:26 PM
anyone hear anything lately? kffl last reports a couple of weeks ago that he might enter, but nothing else.

MorKnolle
04-24-2006, 10:17 PM
I don't think he can go back to school so I assume he's entering the supplemental draft, but I haven't heard anything on it. I still wouldn't take him with anything higher than a 3rd round supplemental pick, not sure I'd even give up a 3rd for him at this point, partially depends on how good of a LB we can find in the 3rd round or later of the regular draft.

YoungTexanFan
04-24-2006, 10:34 PM
I don't think he can go back to school so I assume he's entering the supplemental draft, but I haven't heard anything on it. I still wouldn't take him with anything higher than a 3rd round supplemental pick, not sure I'd even give up a 3rd for him at this point, partially depends on how good of a LB we can find in the 3rd round or later of the regular draft.

You won't find as good a LB in this years draft period, let alone the third round.

MorKnolle
04-24-2006, 11:26 PM
You won't find as good a LB in this years draft period, let alone the third round.

Are you saying that Ahmad Brooks is as good as Bobby Carpenter, Ernie Sims, Chad Greenway, or especially A.J. Hawk on the field, much less considering his off field problems? I haven't seen that much out of him to convince me of anything like that at all, and when you're dealing with the uncertainty of a future pick and who might be available with that pick that you'll surrender I don't like the idea of giving up a high pick for us next year for this guy. Look how much character questions have dropped some guys like Marcus Vick, A.J. Nicholson, and other guys in this draft. I would maybe take Brooks with our 3rd round compensatory depending on what we do with our draft picks this weekend and whether we can get a decent LB in there or not, but I absolutely don't consider using a 1st or 2nd on him, I don't think our team is in a position that adding one LB is that big of a help to us that would warrant giving up that kind of pick for a guy with the question marks that Brooks has.