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bulldawgtexan
02-17-2006, 12:50 PM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

HoustonFrog
02-17-2006, 01:04 PM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

Not thinking DD is a franchise back is not fairweather. There isn't a sports person in this town that thinks he is and there aren't many other NFL teams. He is a good back who works hard. He is injury prone. When you have a guy who is questionable every week and therefore isn't gettting the practice reps with the line, etc, it hurts the team. Despite his impressive stats at times he has never won us a game by breaking a long one nor will he ever be a home run threat. Wells is gone I bet throught FA. DD's best option will be RBBC with someone like Bush. Morency will be the 3rd back. It will save wear and tear in DD and will extend his career. He just hasn't shown that he can hold up for a season and if we do hit the playoffs there is a chance he will be injured that late in the season. I love the guy, just being real in my book.

dat_boy_yec
02-17-2006, 01:13 PM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

I haven't turned my back on Davis. I am of the opinion that he's a keeper. However the fact that he carried the team so much is a factor in wearing him down and his injuries. If your saying that we turned our back on DD because we support the Texans drafting Bush than you got things twisted. Davis can share the load with any of our other RB's but imagine Davis and Bush in the backfield. That would be an explosive and versatile backfield. You would have speed and power back there. Furthermore that would mean that DD would not have to carry so much of the workload so his body wouldn't be so worn down and he could finish the season in great condition. Davis and Wells are our best running backs.

Behind that I would disagree with you. Morrency does not have good vision or balance. He is not young, matter of fact I think he might be older than DD or about the same age. He made a comment about wanting a trade if Bush came here. To me that shows lack of competitive spirit, when DD was asked the question he looked forward to competing for the starting spot. Wells has also stated his wishes to remain a Texan. Yet, Morrency asked for a trade if Bush comes here, that speaks volumes to me, considering the guy hasn't really shown much promise he would be the first to go if Bush came here. Hollings has had an injury plagued career and if one of our backs went down he would have to play. I don't mind seeing him out there but considering his history and the fact that he hasn't shown what he can do I would be not be to confident with him.

Gilly
02-17-2006, 02:24 PM
I am also a hugh DD fan and I believe (when healthy) he is the best thing since sliced bread. But the bottom line is that he is injury prone, and does us no good while sitting on the bench in a t-shirt. While I am against picking Bush, I am intreged by the thought of having them both in the backfield

I personally don't believe Bush can carry the entire load of a denver styled off. mainly because of his size. I think Bush would need DD more than DD needs Bush to improve. Bush is good for 15 carries a game , DD is good for 20.
Bush can hit the outside, DD can run the middle.

Vinny
02-17-2006, 02:28 PM
Dom is a good...middle of the pack starting caliber RB. He is good enough to be our feature back but he isn't a top 10-15 back in the NFL.

HJam72
02-17-2006, 02:31 PM
....but imagine Davis and Bush in the backfield. That would be an explosive and versatile backfield. You would have speed and power back there. Furthermore that would mean that DD would not have to carry so much of the workload so his body wouldn't be so worn down and he could finish the season in great condition. Davis and Wells are our best running backs.


I would think that, with Bush blocking, DD's runs would diminish badly in yardage gained. Moran Norris just doesn't get enough credit around here. It gets worse too, because I wouldn't trust DD to block traffic in a turned over 18 wheeler. That's his greatest downfall (pass blocking).

keyfro
02-17-2006, 02:37 PM
i'm all for davis, wells, and morency...IMO it would be wiser to trade down with either the jets or the packers and land either mario williams or d'brick ferguson...plus some other picks and maybe a verteran or two...i don't see reggie coming in and pulling a cadillac williams...in fact i think he'll be more of a brian westbrook type back...one who might be better at wide out than runningback

whiskeyrbl
02-17-2006, 02:39 PM
I am also a hugh DD fan and I believe (when healthy) he is the best thing since sliced bread. But the bottom line is that he is injury prone, and does us no good while sitting on the bench in a t-shirt. While I am against picking Bush, I am intreged by the thought of having them both in the backfield

I personally don't believe Bush can carry the entire load of a denver styled off. mainly because of his size. I think Bush would need DD more than DD needs Bush to improve. Bush is good for 15 carries a game , DD is good for 20.
Bush can hit the outside, DD can run the middle.
I don't believe that Bush is an everydown back either,but in this system he would not have to be,it would be good for him and DD,however i would rather trade down.That being said my reason for posting here is get off the "Bush is not big enough" He is the same size Dorsett was,and if i remember correctly he was a pretty good RB.

keyfro
02-17-2006, 02:39 PM
i mean has anyone really seen a game where he ran up the middle on a solid defense...the pac-10 isn't known for their stout defenses like the SEC or Big-10...heck the ACC and big-xii had better defenses than the pac-10...so honestly i don't know if he is an solid back like everyone in the world believes he is...cause the only defense worth mentioning that usc went up against was ut and if memory serves me correctly all the inside running was done by white...not bush

HJam72
02-17-2006, 02:42 PM
i'm all for davis, wells, and morency...IMO it would be wiser to trade down with either the jets or the packers and land either mario williams or d'brick ferguson...plus some other picks and maybe a verteran or two...i don't see reggie coming in and pulling a cadillac williams...in fact i think he'll be more of a brian westbrook type back...one who might be better at wide out than runningback

I couldn't possibly agree more.

wags
02-17-2006, 02:43 PM
i mean has anyone really seen a game where he ran up the middle on a solid defense...the pac-10 isn't known for their stout defenses like the SEC or Big-10...heck the ACC and big-xii had better defenses than the pac-10...so honestly i don't know if he is an solid back like everyone in the world believes he is...cause the only defense worth mentioning that usc went up against was ut and if memory serves me correctly all the inside running was done by white...not bush

Which makes sense because White is 30 lbs heavier.

LT went up against worse defenses in college and it didn't hurt his game.

zeplin
02-17-2006, 02:54 PM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

There are many on this board that like DD as the Texans RB The big rub on him is he gets hurt (Injury prone NFL language) If you really look at it. He gets hurt because of all the use and abuse. Running, passing, and blocking, can take there toll on a RB. R Bush is smaller than DD and would be subject to the same punishment. I imagine Getting hurt on occassion.
The real important part to me is that DD is a 1000 yard proven russer in a sub-par offense on the worst team in the NFL. R. Bush is totally unproven.
He will be very expensive to a allready very tight salary capped team.
We have allready paid a whole bunch of money to the current roster.
I have allways said " Trade down and build your offensive line. We have so much power in this draft. If we are smart we can dictate who goes where for the first 4 picks. Probablt picking up bodies on the way to drafting :homer: D'Brickshaw Fergusen.

HoustonFrog
02-17-2006, 02:58 PM
Dom is a good...middle of the pack starting caliber RB. He is good enough to be our feature back but he isn't a top 10-15 back in the NFL.

Right!!And I also got tired of seeing my post account above at "666".

Frills
02-17-2006, 03:07 PM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!


Seen DD block anyone lately?

Texas
02-17-2006, 03:21 PM
Well I look at it like this...DD is a good back but like said before he never has "won" a game for us. He's not that type of back. Hes a back who can produce and create a 2nd threat but is not good enough to win it for us on a day that the passing game is not connected which was all of last season. Reggie Bush however is a great blocker and has the potential to win a with his running if and only if our line can do the job and blockers can do there job. DD is a great player dont get me wrong but I beleive I could get a

DRAMA
02-17-2006, 03:34 PM
I personally don't believe Bush can carry the entire load of a denver styled off. mainly because of his size. I think Bush would need DD more than DD needs Bush to improve. Bush is good for 15 carries a game , DD is good for 20. Bush can hit the outside, DD can run the middle.

One more inch and 7 pounds and he's a prototypical size back. The size thing is completely overblown. He's strong as an ox from what they say so adding one-half of a pinky finger and 2 Big Macs are not going to make a difference.

He'll be fine....

TheOgre
02-17-2006, 04:04 PM
I think it depends on what you want the strength of your team to be. If it is running the ball, then I don't think DD is your long-term answer. He might work in a balanced attack, but not as the primary focus of the offense (which is how Caper's staff tried to utilize him).

TexanSam
02-17-2006, 04:04 PM
This will be the 3rd time I've posted this, but this probably the best thread to put it under.

Here's Tatum Bells and Mike Anderson's carries and yards in 2005:

Tatum Bell - 175 carries; 921 yards; 5.3 avg
Mike Anderson - 239 carries; 1014 yards; 4.2 avg

Combined they rushed for 1935 yards on 414 carries for a 4.6 avg. That's basically having a 2 headed monster in your backfield. I can see Davis and Bush doing even better than Bell and Anderson. First, Bush is supremely more talented than Tatum Bell and Davis is younger and more explosive than Anderson (Anderson used to be a fullback). Bush/Davis can probably total over 2100 yards in season in RUSHING yards alone. The difference comes in Bush's catching ability. Bell had 18 catches for 104 yards last year. Bush can definately catch at least between 30-40 catches a season for around 300-400 yards. Combined that would be 2500 total yards. Bush would help us immediately and would have a tremendous impact. Not even Vince Young will be able to have this much of an impact on our offense this early. I vote Bush.

Texan_Kev
02-17-2006, 04:14 PM
Dom is a good...middle of the pack starting caliber RB. He is good enough to be our feature back but he isn't a top 10-15 back in the NFL.

He's been ranked in the top 10 - 15 every year in rushing yards.. He's ranked in the top 10 for the 2005 season.

stevo3883
02-17-2006, 04:23 PM
He's been ranked in the top 10 - 15 every year in rushing yards.. He's ranked in the top 10 for the 2005 season.


2003- 15th
2004- 11th
2005- 18th

hes never been in the top 10

adrianshrev
02-17-2006, 04:25 PM
well, i agree with just about everything here but if we don't fix the line first it don't matter who we have back there all they will be doing is dodging de/dt/lb/cb because the defense will have a jail break going and we won't be able to stop it:brickwall i vote ol, mainly d'brickashaw ferguson:redtowel:

Texan_Kev
02-17-2006, 04:57 PM
2003- 15th
2004- 11th
2005- 18th

hes never been in the top 10

:brickwall Had my stats sorted wrong.. That was YPG.. He was ranked 9th in 2005. My bad..

TheOgre
02-17-2006, 05:05 PM
:brickwall Had my stats sorted wrong.. That was YPG.. He was ranked 9th in 2005. My bad..

Even that is deceptive because so many teams have split carries on their teams now. Where does DD rank in YPC? Where does DD rank in terms of TD's (although that can be deceptive too) and runs of 20+ yards?

He is solid, but he isn't explosive and he really isn't reliable either (injuries). I really would like to see us upgrade from him at some point.

Frills
02-17-2006, 05:19 PM
In the 05 campaign...in the 2 wins he didn't score in the first avg 3.3 a carry and had 2 rec for 25 yds, and flat out didn't play in the second...

04 Campaign, in the 3 wins before the bye week he was absent 1 game, and in the 2 other wins he totaled 20 carried for a whopping 37 yds and 0 scores. In the 4 wins after the bye he got better, 94 carries averaging 4.65 and 3 TD's.

03 Campaign he had 6 games with over 20 carries, 2 wins 3 losses scored a total of 2 TD's in all the games we won that season.

Not a fulltime back in the NFL, a RBBC would benefit him greatly.

michaelm
02-17-2006, 05:26 PM
I am one of the majority around here who like DD and think he has done a lot of good for the team.
I think that the bulk of the DD bashing comes from a very vocal few, and many of them are just RB people plain and simple.
Two points that I think are worth keeping in mind are:

1) DD's well documented reputation as a player who is an injury concern. Notice I didn't go as far as to say injury prone.

2) Larry Johnson was considered a luxury pick by many because the Cheifs had Priest. Many people questioned that pick when it was made.
I think we can all agree that the Chiefs made the right move with LJ. I know that the two situations are different, but there are similarities.

Also, I was around in the late 80's when Cincy had James Brooks and Icky Woods. Two different style backs who split time/played in the backfield at the same time for the entire year (minus 1 game Brooks missed).

1988 Cincinnati Bengals
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+

| James Brooks | 15 | 182 931 5.1 8 | 29 287 9.9 6 |

| Ickey Woods | 16 | 203 1066 5.3 15 | 21 199 9.5 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+

2483 total yards and 29 TDs between them is pretty good. If Brooks had played the 16th game, he might have broken 1,000yds rushing as well.
This comparison may or may not seem relative to you all, but I thought it was an awsome (80's vernacular) combination, and one that DD and RB could surpass if used correctly.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin1988.htm

NativeJPR
02-17-2006, 05:29 PM
This will be the 3rd time I've posted this, but this probably the best thread to put it under.

Here's Tatum Bells and Mike Anderson's carries and yards in 2005:

Tatum Bell - 175 carries; 921 yards; 5.3 avg
Mike Anderson - 239 carries; 1014 yards; 4.2 avg

Combined they rushed for 1935 yards on 414 carries for a 4.6 avg. That's basically having a 2 headed monster in your backfield. I can see Davis and Bush doing even better than Bell and Anderson. First, Bush is supremely more talented than Tatum Bell and Davis is younger and more explosive than Anderson (Anderson used to be a fullback). Bush/Davis can probably total over 2100 yards in season in RUSHING yards alone. The difference comes in Bush's catching ability. Bell had 18 catches for 104 yards last year. Bush can definately catch at least between 30-40 catches a season for around 300-400 yards. Combined that would be 2500 total yards. Bush would help us immediately and would have a tremendous impact. Not even Vince Young will be able to have this much of an impact on our offense this early. I vote Bush.
I agree with what you are saying however if we were to draft VY, sure he'll sit the first year for the most part but after that we'll have that play making monster touching the ball EVERY down........TOUGH DECISION

Frills
02-17-2006, 05:45 PM
Give me a versatile back, a decent line and a defense I'll take a mediocre QB who might not be amazing but gets the job done.

TreWardTxn
02-17-2006, 06:18 PM
Which makes sense because White is 30 lbs heavier.

LT went up against worse defenses in college and it didn't hurt his game.

I know you're not knockin' LT, but let's talk about how great he actually was in college. He was the focal point of every defense they faced in an option oriented offense, so teams knew the run was coming, that means 9-10 man fronts, and he ran against all of them. Of course I don't think there is any point in comparing LT and Bush because Bush doesn't run like LT. I suppose he would be a better receiving option because he is 2'' taller, but he does not have the same running instinct which makes LT so great, he may have another one, but not that one...

dat_boy_yec
02-17-2006, 06:22 PM
The way I see it is simple. Next yr. DD is going to run, he's going to share the backfield with someone. There is no way he carries the load by himself again. So the question becomes who do you want there with him. Bush, Wells, or Morrency? I look at those options and I think, Damn wouldn't it be something if it were Bush in there with him. I love DD's game and that is why I want to see him share the load. Otherwise his career is going to get shorter and the injuries will keep happening.

kingdee09
02-18-2006, 01:30 AM
Well I look at it like this...DD is a good back but like said before he never has "won" a game for us. He's not that type of back. Hes a back who can produce and create a 2nd threat but is not good enough to win it for us on a day that the passing game is not connected which was all of last season. Reggie Bush however is a great blocker and has the potential to win a with his running if and only if our line can do the job and blockers can do there job. DD is a great player dont get me wrong but I beleive I could get a

cmon man be real here. DD gives a 110% when he steps on that field. he was 85% of the offence this past season. 1 reason why he was injured. DD is just as good maybe even better (in my eyes) back than RB. yall over rate RB like hes gonna make the texans win. wrong. DD is as effective as RB. and about the winning dont blame it on DD blame it on DC or atleast defence especially.we dont need to spend money on a back that we already have.

jus like yall DC fans who are gonnna wait another 4 years to for him to blossom (which is another 4 years of hell). watch DD next season just go crazy on defences

michaelm
02-18-2006, 02:02 AM
jus like yall DC fans who are gonnna wait another 4 years to for him to blossom (which is another 4 years of hell). watch DD next season just go crazy on defences

So Carr has shown us all that he will ever amount to, but DD will suddenly become a much better player than he has ever shown us?
You think that the play calling and supporting players will improve enough to allow DD to 'just go crazy on defenses', but Carr couldn't possibly improve under the same conditions.
Double Standard...
DD is a solid back, no more... I doubt seriously that he will ever regularly just go crazy on anybody...

Grid
02-18-2006, 02:14 AM
I love DD.. but he cant take the punishment of being a workhorse back. He would be great sharing carries with another back..and Reggie Bush would be a great Yin to his Yang.

TexansTrueFan
02-18-2006, 02:37 AM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

i agree i mean we ranked 13th in rushing last season. and D.D was out for a a few games and was still pretty productive. i love d.d and agree w/ you !!!!!!!

AustinJB
02-18-2006, 02:45 AM
So Carr has shown us all that he will ever amount to, but DD will suddenly become a much better player than he has ever shown us?
You think that the play calling and supporting players will improve enough to allow DD to 'just go crazy on defenses', but Carr couldn't possibly improve under the same conditions.
Double Standard...
DD is a solid back, no more... I doubt seriously that he will ever regularly just go crazy on anybody...

See, I disagree w/ this.

I tend to agree w/ Bulldawytexan on this one. The difference is DD has been a very productive running back even though he is playing on a horrible offense and offensive scheme w/ no passing game. Carr is not been a productive QB.

If they both improve, that would mean great things for DD. If Carr improves it could just mean that he actually acts like a QB. He doesn't have to show too much to show improvement b/c he hasn't been very good (to put it mildly.):twocents:

michaelm
02-18-2006, 02:54 AM
See, I disagree w/ this.

I tend to agree w/ Bulldawytexan on this one. The difference is DD has been a very productive running back even though he is playing on a horrible offense and offensive scheme w/ no passing game. Carr is not been a productive QB.

If they both improve, that would mean great things for DD. If Carr improves it could just mean that he actually acts like a QB. He doesn't have to show too much to show improvement b/c he hasn't been very good (to put it mildly.):twocents:


My point is that if conditions improve enough for DD to go from just a solid back to a guy that 'just goes crazy' on opposing teams, then conditions should improve enough for DC to become a solid QB.
I wasn't comparing their level of production. DD has been more productive at his position, no doubt. Just saying that there is equal opportunity for both guys to improve if offensive game planning and personell improve enough.
It's pretty late, and I'm tired... I hope I explained that clearly...

J-Storm
02-18-2006, 08:26 AM
This discussion has been had over and over but the simple fact is that unless we substitute guys in for DD at time throughout a game while we stop expecting him to be our main weapon besides AJ then of course he will continually get hurt and never finish a full season. Wells and Morency we didn't use until it was too late in the season and DD was injured again. Had we used them more frequently before DD went down, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion now would we? Either way whether we draft Bush, Young, D'Brick or even Mario, unless DD gets reps out of the games over the whole season and Wells/Morency/Bush (if here) get a go and match practice, we'll be having this discussion again this time next year about how DD broke down YET AGAIN...

TEXANRED
02-18-2006, 10:29 AM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!
Settle down Bulldawg. NO one has turned there back on DD. You can never have to much talent at the running back position. Both can be on the field at the same time, both can run, catch, and make plays. That combo is dangerous.

sax_49
02-18-2006, 11:04 AM
I really don't understand why most everyone here has basically turned their back on Domanick Davis. He is good. He is very, very good. We do not need any help at the RB position. Davis, Morency, and Wells are a great trio. If we choose to spend money or picks on a RB, then we are wasting our time. I support DD all the way. It is ridiculous how most of you talk about him like he hasn't basically had to carry our team offensively. We don't need a FA RB, and we don't need Reggie Bush. Some of us still love you DD!!!!!!! Some of these bandwagon, fairweather fans don't speak for those of us who truly know that Davis has been awesome and will continue to be awesome!

DD has been a very good player for the Texans, but IMO you can never have enough rb's. As evidenced by DD's injuries during his career. I would rather have a Lindale White type back than Bush, but we also don't have that breakaway take it all the way type either. Bush could possibly give us that, but I don't think he is worth the 1st pick. Then again I don't see a player worth the 1st pick this year.

TexanSam
02-18-2006, 11:50 AM
DD has been a very good player for the Texans, but IMO you can never have enough rb's. As evidenced by DD's injuries during his career. I would rather have a Lindale White type back than Bush, but we also don't have that breakaway take it all the way type either. Bush could possibly give us that, but I don't think he is worth the 1st pick. Then again I don't see a player worth the 1st pick this year.

We have a LenDale White guy. His name is Domanick Davis. They are both the same type of runner. For everyone who says pick LenDale White, that is not the type of running back we need. LenDale White won't be a playmaker. Domanick Davis won't be a playmaker. Reggie Bush will be a playmaker. He can not only be a hell of a runner, he can be a pretty good WR also when he's not in the backfield. Domanick Davis should stay healthier when he's less of a workhorse. With him and Bush splitting time in the backfield Davis should be able to be more productive over a full season.

And one other note, LenDale white isn't even the 2nd best back in the draft. DeAngelo Williams is.

Vinny
02-18-2006, 11:55 AM
LenDale White is a much bigger, and much more powerful back. He is more Eddie George than Dom Davis.

HJam72
02-18-2006, 11:56 AM
And one other note, LenDale white isn't even the 2nd best back in the draft. DeAngelo Williams is.

Yeah, and, on top of that, Vince Young is definitely the 2nd best QB in the draft....wait a minute. :confused:

sax_49
02-18-2006, 12:40 PM
We have a LenDale White guy. His name is Domanick Davis. They are both the same type of runner. For everyone who says pick LenDale White, that is not the type of running back we need. LenDale White won't be a playmaker. Domanick Davis won't be a playmaker. Reggie Bush will be a playmaker. He can not only be a hell of a runner, he can be a pretty good WR also when he's not in the backfield. Domanick Davis should stay healthier when he's less of a workhorse. With him and Bush splitting time in the backfield Davis should be able to be more productive over a full season.

And one other note, LenDale white isn't even the 2nd best back in the draft. DeAngelo Williams is.

IMO DD isn't a Lendale White type simply because he isn't nearly as big and powerful, White is 6'2" 235lbs the Texans need a back like this near the goal line. This young man can break tackles and score touchdowns, 31 by the end of his soph year. I'm not saying they should draft him. He did have ankle surgery to remove torn cartilage in his left ankle in early 2005. As far as him not being the 2nd best back in the draft IMO that would depend on what a teams needs would be this year or what type back they would be looking for. No doubt Bush would make any team better as would Williams or White.:twocents:

run-david-run
02-19-2006, 01:55 PM
Dom is a good...middle of the pack starting caliber RB. He is good enough to be our feature back but he isn't a top 10-15 back in the NFL.
Two seasons ago, during the 7-9 year where we had our best offensive performance as a franchise, DD had 1776 yards from scrimage, same as LaDannian Tomlinson. He also had 13 rushing TD's. Now, im not comparing DD and LT in terms of talent, but it is obvious when seeing those stats that DD is has the ability to be a top 10 back in the NFL. People claim he is injury prone, but look at how little help he receives when he is running the ball. Johnathan Wells would have finished with under 30 carries if DD had started eveygame. Thats less then 2 carries a game, on a running team. Under Caper's philosophy, we wanted to run and control the clock, meaning the RB position is key, yet DD was the only back getting any carries at all, he basically had the workload of an entire running game on his sholders. Even LT and Shaun Alexander had some help in the form of Michael Turner and Maurice Morris, DD held the running game of the Texans by himeslf. Remeber the INdy game, he had 22 caries at half time! If we choose to not draft Reggie and go another route, simply by giving Wells or Morency about 5-6 of the carries DD would get, it would greatly reduce the injury problems DD has had and allow him to stay healthy throughut the season.

mancunian
02-19-2006, 02:13 PM
I would think that, with Bush blocking, DD's runs would diminish badly in yardage gained. Moran Norris just doesn't get enough credit around here. It gets worse too, because I wouldn't trust DD to block traffic in a turned over 18 wheeler. That's his greatest downfall (pass blocking).


If both Bush and Davis were in the backfield together it would be in a split backs type of formation maybe and would be a pass.

thunderkyss
02-19-2006, 02:53 PM
I would think that, with Bush blocking, DD's runs would diminish badly in yardage gained. Moran Norris just doesn't get enough credit around here. It gets worse too, because I wouldn't trust DD to block traffic in a turned over 18 wheeler. That's his greatest downfall (pass blocking).


So, if you have the two in the backfield, and Reggie releases as a reciever, you have DD pass blocking.......... hmmm. It would be better then, to have Reggie blocking, releasing DD, and nulifying Reggie's explosiveness in the offense.

DD is our franchise back. we don't need another. If we can pick up a change of pace back, later in the draft, then so be it. we don't need a 1st overall guy. DD get's hurt, and we've solved that problem in our O........ Wells, and Morency. Also, it isn't uncommon for a RB to suffer nagging injuries his first 2 or 3 years, especially behind our OLine. yes, they can run block but look at how many times a DLmen tackled him. That IMHO is why DD get's hurt. taking too many of those hits. Give us a real Oline coach, and DD may make a full season......... in the top 10.

And this breakaway speed stuff. In my book, nice, but not necessary. If he can break one every now and again for 20 yards, believe me he'll get the same respect as someone who can break an 80 yard run for a touchdown. In the run game, you want first downs. If you've got a back who can threaten to pick up the first down on any reasonable down and distance, then you've got your man.