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Errant Hothy
01-27-2006, 10:50 PM
Texans | Sherman heading to town for an interview
Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:37:10 -0800

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports a source said former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman was en route to Houston for an interview with new Texans head coach Gary Kubiak. Sherman is being considered for the job of offensive line coach and assistant head coach under Kubiak. "Do I think he'd take it?" a source with knowledge of Sherman's situation said. "Oh, yeah. Why not? Why would you go down?"


Better then Santa if you ask me.

D-ReK
01-27-2006, 10:55 PM
I'm very hesitant to celebrate Sherman coming for an interview as our OL coach...Let's not forget how bad their line looked last year, and they actually have a few good players on theirs...Also, it seems to me that if Kubiak is going to try to implement Denver's zone blocking scheme here, it would be advantageous to get someone in here who is a zone blocking guru *cough* Alex Gibbs *cough*...Sherman does bring an attitude of winning with him though, and if you're looking for a "big name" hire, there aren't many bigger names available than his...

F-minus67
01-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Consisdering that they lost two probowl caliber guards, then replaced them with a rookie and a rotation at LG, not to mention that Favre has lost about five steps in the last two years. Of course they looked bad.

Carr Bombed
01-27-2006, 11:01 PM
Yes the Packers line was a little shaky this year, but you also have to take into account they lost their best lineman to free agency during the offseason, so they had first time starters on the line. Taking that into account they still did a decent job and a helleva lot better then the Texan Oline

Carr Bombed
01-27-2006, 11:01 PM
Consisdering that they lost two probowl caliber guards, then replaced them with a rookie and a rotation at LG, not to mention that Favre has lost about five steps in the last two years. Of course they looked bad.damn you beat me to it. :)

texan279
01-27-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm very hesitant to celebrate Sherman coming for an interview as our OL coach...Let's not forget how bad their line looked last year, and they actually have a few good players on theirs...Also, it seems to me that if Kubiak is going to try to implement Denver's zone blocking scheme here, it would be advantageous to get someone in here who is a zone blocking guru *cough* Alex Gibbs *cough*...Sherman does bring an attitude of winning with him though, and if you're looking for a "big name" hire, there aren't many bigger names available than his...

Their O line last season consisted of Mark Tauscher, Will Whitticker, Mike Flanagan, Scott Walls, and Chad Clifton. Their O line allowed 35 sacks and Samkon Gado off of the practice squad rushed for almost 600 yards in 8 games behind their offensive line, and that was without Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera.

D-ReK
01-27-2006, 11:09 PM
Consisdering that they lost two probowl caliber guards, then replaced them with a rookie and a rotation at LG, not to mention that Favre has lost about five steps in the last two years. Of course they looked bad.

I'm well aware of the fact that they lost Rivera and Wahle, which of course contributed to them looking bad...I should've included that in my original post...

The fact remains, though, that there appears to be a fundamental difference between Kubiak and Sherman, and if our line is supposed to learn Denver's scheme, wouldn't it be better to have someone who has ran a zone blocking line before teach it to them?

Grid
01-27-2006, 11:12 PM
Im thinking along the same lines D-Rek.. this isnt exactly what I was hoping for in relation to our Oline. I was hoping to get someone who could turn our line around in a hurry. Sherman does have a good deal of experience with Olines though.. maybe he could do something for us. I mean... Houck(sp?) isnt a zone blocking specialist.. but he does some amazing stuff with Olines.

Im gonna stay positive about it.. but it isnt what I was hoping for.

sprtsfanatic
01-27-2006, 11:23 PM
Im surprised no one has commented on the title of "assistant head coach"...

Whats that all about???

Rovator
01-27-2006, 11:23 PM
n/m

jacquescas
01-27-2006, 11:23 PM
i mean look it shows that we are serious, it shows that we have something going, and it will be great press for us.

texan279
01-28-2006, 12:25 AM
Sitting here thinking about this. Anyone else find it odd that Sherman, a head coach/executive VP for the Packers who led the Pack to 5 straight winning seasons and 4 consecutive playoff appearances would even consider coming here to be an assistand head coach/offensive line coach?

Erratic Assassin
01-28-2006, 12:34 AM
Sitting here thinking about this. Anyone else find it odd that Sherman, a head coach/executive VP for the Packers who led the Pack to 5 straight winning seasons and 4 consecutive playoff appearances would even consider coming here to be an assistand head coach/offensive line coach?

Will the offensive line coach rank higher or lower than the offensive coordinator? What about the defensive coordinator?

I'm not sure I like the co-defensive coordinator thing Kubiak was going for either. This all sounds like something an inexperienced head coach might come up with. I hope this guy isn't already starting to show signs of questionable judgment. This is how I felt about Casserly in the beginning.

Lucky
01-28-2006, 12:35 AM
Sitting here thinking about this. Anyone else find it odd that Sherman, a head coach/executive VP for the Packers who led the Pack to 5 straight winning seasons and 4 consecutive playoff appearances would even consider coming here to be an assistand head coach/offensive line coach?
I think Sherman must have a ton of respect for Kubiak. Plus, he's a football coach who wants to stay active in the game. I'd welcome him with open arms.

texman8
01-28-2006, 12:35 AM
Didn't the Packers give Sherman an extension prior to start of season? Kubiak and Sherman worked together at A&M in'92/'93. I read Sherman turned down OC jobs with Bills and one other team. I hope we talk to Jerry Gray about DC.

texan279
01-28-2006, 12:38 AM
I think Sherman must have a ton of respect for Kubiak. Plus, he's a football coach who wants to stay active in the game. I'd welcome him with open arms.

Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love to have Sherman here. It just seems odd for some reason.

edo783
01-28-2006, 01:15 AM
My first reaction is ---this is a positive thing.

HardKnockTexan
01-28-2006, 01:26 AM
My first thought was why would someone that could maybe land a head coaching job and defientally could be a coordinator somewhere want to coach our offensive line? Then I remember how big of an ego most of these NFL coaches have. Imagine the rep around the league Sherman would get if he could make our line go from worst to first?

These are exciting times to be a Texan!

Errant Hothy
01-28-2006, 01:28 AM
http://www.nflfans.com/draft/article...60127064629841

texman8 posted this in the NFL news section.

Says Sherman is coming here for the OC job.

D-ReK
01-28-2006, 01:44 AM
http://www.nflfans.com/draft/article...60127064629841

texman8 posted this in the NFL news section.

Says Sherman is coming here for the OC job.

# AP reports former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman turned down offers from the Buffalo Bills & New York Jets to interview for their vacant offensive coordinator position. Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak may hire former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman as the team's assistant head coach/offensive line.

The article says assistant head coach/offensive line, not OC...Maybe we could get Alex Gibbs to be our OC? Maybe I should just give up hope of us getting him...That would be too perfect...

Errant Hothy
01-28-2006, 01:52 AM
The article says assistant head coach/offensive line, not OC...Maybe we could get Alex Gibbs to be our OC? Maybe I should just give up hope of us getting him...That would be too perfect...

You're right, my bad. Which means it's my bed time.

TEXANFAN23435
01-28-2006, 02:08 AM
I could see Sherman taking the OC post but taking the OL position... I think it's too big a step down. Kubiak has Reeves there to help guide him. Crazy thought, wonder if Kubes could talk Mark Schlerath off the radio / tv and onto the sideline as the OL coach??? MS seems to be a very intelligent individual who knows the zone blocking scheme and seems pretty easy to get along with. Who knows, he might make a helleva coach.

TEXANS84
01-28-2006, 02:17 AM
All and all, if he does come here its a positive thing. Remember, Sherman coached Favre through superbowls. Kubiak was just in the AFC Championship and went and won Superbowls with Elway.

These guys have surrounded themselves in winning organizations and winning players. This is a positive sign that should only be interprited as the right thing to do.

If Sherman does become the offensive coordinator remember that Kubiak IS still the head coach. So I'm sure what type offense and play calling will still run through him. And as far as the offensive line coaching is concerned: we need as much help as we can get.

TEXANFAN23435
01-28-2006, 02:35 AM
I agree TEXANS84. My concern was Shermans willingness to work that far down the totem poll. How does he react when Kubes makes a decision he does not agree with??? Finally, I'm curious to see if Sherman can check his ego at the door and really help Kubes become a successful Head Coach. You know, Kubes failure could mean Sherm's the next man in line and Kubes success could mean a longer tenure as an Asst. Coach or he get's hired away after one season to be a HC elsewhere. Kubes needs to have coaches he can count on through the rebuilding process.

sakebomb
01-28-2006, 07:46 AM
This is crazy.

People complain because Dom's coaches were kind of "cheap hires" and they should have gotten better coaches. Now Mike Sherman is coming down for an interview and people are still complaining. As 84 stated before, he is coming from a winning organization. Why wouldn't we want him? I want an all star cast of coaches instilling a winning attitude in this organization.

texanmojo
01-28-2006, 08:04 AM
People complain because Dom's coaches were kind of "cheap hires" and they should have gotten better coaches. Now Mike Sherman is coming down for an interview and people are still complaining. As 84 stated before, he is coming from a winning organization. Why wouldn't we want him? I want an all star cast of coaches instilling a winning attitude in this organization.

I could not have said it better myself. At a minimum...a move like this helps with the credibility of the Texans. I think it would be a great move for us. In addition...it further proves that Bob Mcnair is willing to do almost anything to get us a winning franchise.

Bring it...

Coach C.
01-28-2006, 08:58 AM
there is no way Sherman could be worse than Pendry. I say bring in who Kubes wants since all the you can bring guys you want talk has stopped. Coaches are going with the you cant take my coaches stand, so whoever is out there that is qualified we should bring em.

Bronco Texan
01-28-2006, 09:40 AM
Assistant HC are higher on the totem poll then OCs. But most NFL OCs are already Assistant HCs. Pretty much teams will have Asst. HC Offense and Asst. HC Defense. They are just back up to the HC. Alot of excoaches have done the same thing. When Jim Fassel was fired from NY he went to Baltimore as an Asst. HC/QB coach. Then he finally took the OC job as well. It usually goes HC, Asst. HC, OC/DC, then the posistion coaches. But some OC/DCs are Assistant HCs. I hope this isn't to hard to figure out.


Koobs was also Asst. HC.

Buffi2
01-28-2006, 09:48 AM
This may be a dumb question - but I thought Troy Calhoun was going to be the OC. Can there be two OC's?

Bronco Texan
01-28-2006, 10:01 AM
This may be a dumb question - but I thought Troy Calhoun was going to be the OC. Can there be two OC's?


Sherman is going to be Asst. HC Offense. Calhoun will still be OC, but he will work under both Koobs and Sherman.

Buffi2
01-28-2006, 10:05 AM
Sherman is going to be Asst. HC Offense. Calhoun will still be OC, but he will work under both Koobs and Sherman.
Thanks. That works for me.:ok:

FILO_girl
01-28-2006, 10:59 AM
Sitting here thinking about this. Anyone else find it odd that Sherman, a head coach/executive VP for the Packers who led the Pack to 5 straight winning seasons and 4 consecutive playoff appearances would even consider coming here to be an assistand head coach/offensive line coach?
I have a take on this.
What would be the ultimate payback in this business? Taking another team to the next level. Revenge is sweet, even on a professional level. :stirpot:

There are not many jobs out there for the retreads this season. Most teams are looking for new and younger talent and while Sherman IS younger, he is still used goods. But, put with an up and coming SuperCoach:superman: , he can still make some good cash and retain his good name in coaching circles. He wasn't going to land a HC job anyway, might as well settle for the next best thing...and take the Texans to the SB while thumbing his nose at the GB brass. :redtowel:

ArlingtonTexan
01-28-2006, 11:04 AM
On Sherman taking a job, it is better for a coach to be involved in the league in some way for a year or two than merely collect his check from Packers. This assume his desire is to be a head coach somewhere.

Double Barrel
01-28-2006, 11:26 AM
If Sherman does become the offensive coordinator remember that Kubiak IS still the head coach. So I'm sure what type offense and play calling will still run through him. And as far as the offensive line coaching is concerned: we need as much help as we can get.

From what I've read, Kubiak will be calling all offensive plays a HC. This, in itself, is an exciting development for the team. Capers always seemed passive and reactive during games, so having a HC that is directly involved with what's happening on the field is a positive step, IMO.

A guy like Sherman is good enough to coach many different schemes, and many different positions. What you get with him is a solid foundation of teaching fundamentals, which the previous staff seemed to have overlooked. It is this attention to details that helps to build a winning team.

SESupergenius
01-28-2006, 12:02 PM
I think this is what is wrong with the NFL. Coaches are being fired too quickly in my opinion. Cowher somehow has survived as one of the NFL's longest tenured coaches despite have a couple of 6-10 records and never winning a Super Bowl. Go figure, but if the owner hadn't of had the gusto to stick it out over time they wouldn't be as successful a franchise as they are today. My point is even though I feel Capers would have been fired eventually, they may have fired him too soon. His team progressed every year until last year, I think that a coach deserves at least one bad year before not getting fired. Which leads me back to Sherman. Sherman had 2 back to back seasons of 10-6 and 2 12-4 seasons before that. He then has a bad season at 4-12 and get's fired?? I don't get that especially after his #1 reciever and running back goes on IR for the year and they lose 2 offensive linemen. How is that bad coaching? If we brought in Sherman as OC there is no excuse for Carr or Casserly to get this offensive into the top 10.

The Dream
01-28-2006, 12:50 PM
I hope they don't bring Sherman here, as a Packers fan I can honestly say he single handley blew the Packers chances of going to the NFC title game a few years back when he chose to punt the ball, instead of going for it on 4th and inches......his decision making is suspect some of the times.

Grid
01-28-2006, 01:04 PM
He will be an assistant here though... Kubiak is going to run this offense.

ArlingtonTexan
01-28-2006, 01:10 PM
I hope they don't bring Sherman here, as a Packers fan I can honestly say he single handley blew the Packers chances of going to the NFC title game a few years back when he chose to punt the ball, instead of going for it on 4th and inches......his decision making is suspect some of the times.

From what I have seen packer fans have a pretty blind hatred of Sherman and pretty much were waiting for a reason to fire him. The next objective take on Sherman I see from Packer fans will be the first.

dtran04
01-28-2006, 01:17 PM
Main point: Kubiak and Sherman have worked together before. That is the most important point to ALL of the hirings.

rockabilly
01-28-2006, 01:19 PM
Sherman's overall record is a great one to be on staff in any fashion.

We are really getting set up here guys. Having someone of his caliber is nothing but a positive thing. Now, if we get Jim Bates on the defensive side of the ball...well then we just have ourselves a Packers staff (not a bad thing) under a Broncos staff now dont we? People in charge from two teams with winning traditions....that doesnt sound that bad to me.

Johnny Utah
01-28-2006, 01:48 PM
I hope they don't bring Sherman here, as a Packers fan I can honestly say he single handley blew the Packers chances of going to the NFC title game a few years back when he chose to punt the ball, instead of going for it on 4th and inches......his decision making is suspect some of the times.

Maybe he's just not cut out as a head coach, and that situation just described is a head coaching decision. He is being brought in to coach the Oline and bring some insight into the offensive scheming with Kubiak. Sounds like a great move to me.

Double Barrel
01-28-2006, 02:22 PM
Maybe he's just not cut out as a head coach, and that situation just described is a head coaching decision. He is being brought in to coach the Oline and bring some insight into the offensive scheming with Kubiak. Sounds like a great move to me.

Exactly. We all give Dom Capers the benefit of the doubt as a defensive coordinator, and all agree he's not a good HC. So why can't Sherman be the same way? Good assistant, but just can't be the full package. Most fired head coaches end up as assistant coaches, so it makes sense to me.

Wolf
01-28-2006, 02:27 PM
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/sherman_mike/


Over the course of the past five years, the Packers assuredly have taken on the personality of their head coach. Always well prepared with a painstaking eye on detail, Sherman's troops have been among the league's least penalized teams in three of his seasons, ranking third in 2003 following fifth- and eighth-place finishes in 2000 and 2001, respectively.

Those traits assuredly have aided them in negating a recent Achilles' heel for the team: winning in dome stadiums. In 2004, the Packers went 3-1 in their four games played indoors. Sherman also has posted a 3-2 record, including wins the past two years, inside the Metrodome, where Green Bay had gone 1-7 in quarterback Brett Favre's first eight trips to Minneapolis.

A big proponent of the importance of family, Sherman constantly works hard to ensure a strong sense of camaraderie within the Green Bay locker room. Fostered through such things as dodge ball tournaments and bowling events during mini-camps as well as by tongue-in-cheek videos that poke fun at players and coaches alike during the season, the Packers' tremendous harmony shows itself on the field. "You have to be able to laugh as a team - nothing creates cohesion and unity better than humor," said Sherman.

Sherman also is not afraid to try unconventional approaches to everyday matters, such as excusing Favre from this past offseason's mandatory mini-camp and all other organized team activities in an effort to fuel the 15-year veteran's passion for the game.




A 27-year veteran of the coaching profession, Mike Sherman has coached at every level - high school, college and professional - over his varied career. He was associated in tutoring eight bowl teams during 16 seasons in the college ranks prior to being named to the Green Bay staff in 1997 by Holmgren. Returning as head coach, he brought with him, among other assets, an intimate knowledge of the 'West Coast' offense in which Favre has flourished over the past 13 years, becoming the National Football League's first three-time 'Most Valuable Player' in the process.

Beyond that, however, he came to his responsibilities with a highly developed agenda for returning the Packers to NFL heights following a one-year absence in 1999, when Green Bay fell short of the playoffs for the first time in seven years with an 8-8 record.

"I feel very confident in what I want to get done here," Sherman let it be known from the outset. "Right from the beginning, I wanted to be organized, structured and disciplined, both with the players and coaches. I want to generate a genuine concern with the team for each other. I think that it is important that the chemistry factor on our team is where it should be in order for us to have success

David's Busted Carr
01-28-2006, 02:33 PM
Any time you can get a guy with HEAD COACH experience as a coordinator how can that be a bad thing?

Errant Hothy
01-28-2006, 02:37 PM
He's been offered the job:

Texans | Sherman offered a position
Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:15:07 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Houston Texans have offered former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman a position on their coaching staff. He was offered the role of assistant head coach/offensive line.


Now it's just wait and see,

bigTEXan8
01-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Maybe he's just not cut out as a head coach, and that situation just described is a head coaching decision. He is being brought in to coach the Oline and bring some insight into the offensive scheming with Kubiak. Sounds like a great move to me.

Kind of reminds me of Norv Turner. Turner was always a good OC, but never seemed to cut it as a HC. Maybe the same is for coaches like Sherman.

TheOgre
01-28-2006, 02:53 PM
Im surprised no one has commented on the title of "assistant head coach"...

Whats that all about???

I think it is a prestige thing. How else are you going to entice a former HC to become your O-line coach? You give him the honorary "Assistant HC" title. I also think Sherman's experience will help Kubiak in ways we aren't even aware of. Keep in mind this is Kubiak's first HC'ing gig on any level.

TheOgre
01-28-2006, 02:57 PM
Which leads me back to Sherman. Sherman had 2 back to back seasons of 10-6 and 2 12-4 seasons before that. He then has a bad season at 4-12 and get's fired?? I don't get that especially after his #1 reciever and running back goes on IR for the year and they lose 2 offensive linemen. How is that bad coaching? If we brought in Sherman as OC there is no excuse for Carr or Casserly to get this offensive into the top 10.

I think it is a power struggle thing. I cannot remember by I think Ron Wolf hired Sherman. A new GM usually is looking for an excuse to bring "one of his guys" and a 4-12 season is just that. Unfortunately for the Packers, I think they got the worst new HC in the league. If I were a long-time coordinator or a tenured coach, I would be thinking "WTF"?

bigTEXan8
01-28-2006, 03:06 PM
If I were a long-time coordinator or a tenured coach, I would be thinking "WTF"?

Well, I think a lot of HC wannabe's (I mean that in the best possible way) shyed away from that job. I think a lot of them didn't want to be hand-cuffed by Favre, waiting till the last possible moment for him to make his decision whether or not he's coming back to the NFL.

Wolf
01-28-2006, 03:07 PM
What I am wondering too is this

Favre said he wanted to play for Sherman (maybe we get him :sarcasm: )

Think of the uproar in GB released Favre..

releasing Sherman doesn't quite means Favre will retire but it gets the ball rolling for retirement..meaning does Favre really want to learn a new system?

aj.
01-28-2006, 03:08 PM
I hope this is true. It will bring some much needed experience to the assistant coaching staff. A young Troy Calhoun jumping to offensive coordinator with only three years of NFL experience (and none at the coordinator level) concerns me a bit even though he will be simply implementing Kubiak's offense. Sherman and Kubiak are old buds from Aggieland.

Grid
01-28-2006, 03:44 PM
nothing new here... but an article on Sherman coming.

http://www.fflivewire.com/Article.asp?ID=gey3513ezg4540d

TheRealJoker
01-28-2006, 04:44 PM
Last I checked we dont exactly have the players to run the Denver scheme like it should be run. Sherman isn't going to be here for more than 2-3 years if he takes the job either. Coaching to the player's strengths (which he will do) until we got the proper personnel in here to run the Denver scheme looks like a nice option to me.

jacquescas
01-28-2006, 05:04 PM
its also what happened with Capers, we are on the hook for his salary, any new money paid to him is less we have to pay. So instead of having him.

Sherman has like 3 million dollars left so, unless we offer him more per year, money means nothing.

edo783
01-28-2006, 05:41 PM
Sherman has like 3 million dollars left so, unless we offer him more per year, money means nothing.

I THINK I heard ( a couple of days ago) that Sherman released the packers from the obligation to pay him the 3 Mill. Not sure why, they said, but I don't remember.

Lucky
01-28-2006, 08:13 PM
...A young Troy Calhoun jumping to offensive coordinator with only three years of NFL experience (and none at the coordinator level) concerns me a bit even though he will be simply implementing Kubiak's offense...
Cam Cameron also had 3 years in the NFL as QB coach before taking over the offense in SD. Scott Linehan became a NFL OC in 2002 with no NFL coaching experience. Kubiak himself was a NFL QB coach for one year in San Fran before becoming the OC in Denver.

Calhoun, 38, was an OC for six seasons at the collegiate level prior to landing a spot on the Bronco's staff. While Troy has 11 years of coaching experience total, it would likely be more had he not spent 6 years as an Air Force officer following his 4 years at the Academy.

dat_boy_yec
01-28-2006, 08:38 PM
I got nothing againts Sherman and if he comes here I wish him the best of luck in turning this ship around. I can understand him being an assistant head coach, because he would be giving advise to Kubiak and whatnot, however I feel he would be better suited to be a consultant. Thus he would be at an easier position to manuever and if he left our organization it would not damage the hierchy. I hope and pray he is familiar with the zone-blocking scheme, because if he isn't I simply don't understand why you would get him when you could pursue the one person who devised the scheme and applied it so well on two different teams. If Calhoun is OC it makes me question why isn't he ***. HC. I believe the Texans should still pursue Gibbs he IS without question the Zone-blocking Guru. As a matter of fact Kubes worked with him before and I just wish I knew why we haven't gone after Gibbs.

Carr Bombed
01-28-2006, 08:53 PM
I hope they don't bring Sherman here, as a Packers fan I can honestly say he single handley blew the Packers chances of going to the NFC title game a few years back when he chose to punt the ball, instead of going for it on 4th and inches......his decision making is suspect some of the times.

Really.......because I thought it was their defensive blown assignment which allowed the eagles crappy receivers to convert on a 4th and 26 and Farve's horrically bad decision to just throw the ball up for grabs to two eagle defenders which iced the game. Speaking of throwing the ball up for grabs and making bad decisions, thats something Farve did all last year.

texan279
01-28-2006, 10:10 PM
Sorry if this was posted, from kffl.com...

Texans | Sherman offered a position
Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:15:07 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Houston Texans have offered former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman a position on their coaching staff. He was offered the role of assistant head coach/offensive line.

Wolf
01-28-2006, 10:30 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/jan06/388255.asp

Green Bay - John Bonamego and Mark Duffner, two members of Mike Sherman's coaching staff with the Green Bay Packers, have landed coaching positions with other National Football League teams and it appears just a matter of time before Larry Beightol does as well.


On Friday, the New Orleans Saints announced the hiring of Bonamego as special teams coach. NFL sources said Duffner had agreed to coach linebackers for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

A source with the Detroit Lions said Beightol was "99.9%" assured of becoming offensive line coach under new coach Ron Marinelli. Beightol had interviewed for the same job with the St. Louis Rams and had conversations with the Houston Texans.

Meanwhile, a source said Sherman was en route to Houston today for an interview with new Texans coach Gary Kubiak. Sherman was offensive line coach at Texas A&M in 1992-'93 when Kubiak was beginning his coaching career as the Aggies' running backs coach.

Sherman, 51, is being considered for the job of offensive line coach and assistant head coach under Kubiak, who is 44. The Texans gave up a league-leading 68 sacks in 2005, 14 more than the runner-up team.

"Do I think he'd take it?" a source with knowledge of Sherman's situation said. "Oh, yeah. Why not? Why would you go down?"

Sherman had interviews for the head-coaching positions with the Saints and Buffalo Bills. He finished second in Buffalo to Dick Jauron and lost out in New Orleans to Sean Payton.

A source close to Sherman said his chances in New Orleans became diminished over his concerns about where his family would live in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. The three youngest of his five children are ages 6, 12 and 17.

Sherman reportedly turned down chances to interview for offensive coordinator jobs with the New York Jets and the Bills.

If Sherman takes another job, the Packers would save money. As it stands now, they owe him $3.2 million in 2006 and '07. If, for example, he accepts a job that pays $600,000 in '06, the Packers still would be responsible for the remaining $2.6 million.

Earlier in the week, former defensive coordinator Jim Bates turned down an offer from the Rams worth about $1.2 million to be their defensive coordinator. Bates apparently preferred to join Kubiak's staff in Houston, but when Kubiak decided to look elsewhere Bates had to change gears.

Wolf
01-28-2006, 10:31 PM
I wonder what happened to Bates?
:spy:

aj.
01-28-2006, 10:31 PM
Cam Cameron also had 3 years in the NFL as QB coach before taking over the offense in SD. Scott Linehan became a NFL OC in 2002 with no NFL coaching experience. Kubiak himself was a NFL QB coach for one year in San Fran before becoming the OC in Denver.

Calhoun, 38, was an OC for six seasons at the collegiate level prior to landing a spot on the Bronco's staff. While Troy has 11 years of coaching experience total, it would likely be more had he not spent 6 years as an Air Force officer following his 4 years at the Academy.

....and Mike Sherman only had three years in the NFL before he got his head gig at GB. Whoop. The NFL is a little different than Ohio U and Wake Forest.

I'm fully aware there are counter-examples but that has nothing to do with the fact that Calhoun being promoted to coordinator with only three years experience in the NFL (and one of those was coaching defense) concerns me a bit. The fact that he's simply implementing Kubiak's system remedies that somewhat.

Lucky
01-28-2006, 11:20 PM
....and Mike Sherman only had three years in the NFL before he got his head gig at GB. Whoop.
Whoop, indeed. What did the years of experience Pendry & Palmer had in the NFL do for this team? "Can he coach?", is the only question that need be asked.

edo783
01-29-2006, 12:00 AM
I wonder what happened to Bates?
:spy:

Me to. Might have been a personality thing. I wonder if Jerry Grey is still in the mix?

Grid
01-29-2006, 12:12 AM
The fact that they havent announced anything on Bates is a bit disconcerting. But maybe they are waiting until Monday? Dunno why they would.. but one can hope.

Errant Hothy
01-29-2006, 12:13 AM
I find it a bit odd that both Bates and Grey's names have been abasent from most coaching stories.

aj.
01-29-2006, 08:46 AM
"Can he coach?", is the only question that need be asked.

Thanks for helping make my point, since that question has yet to be answered or proven at the NFL level because the book just opened on this guy - hence my 'bit' of concern. Just because the head coach thinks he's capable and a great guy doesn't mean squat. Been there, done that.

run-david-run
01-29-2006, 10:22 AM
This is a good thing, but I am hesitant for a reason. Kubes is an offensive guy, I though the original plan was to allow him and Denver's O-Line coach, Dennison I beleive, to take care of the offense. This would work even better if we could bring in someone like Jerry Gray, an expreianced DC that would take the deffensvie responsibility of Kubes' hands... that would be perfect...

Lucky
01-29-2006, 11:37 AM
Just because the head coach thinks he's capable and a great guy doesn't mean squat.
I think it means everything. Kubiak should be able to live or die with the coaches he wants to work with and the players he wants to coach. Just as Dom Capers did. Just as Cowher, Shanahan, and Parcells do.

4Texans
01-29-2006, 11:46 AM
This is a good thing, but I am hesitant for a reason. Kubes is an offensive guy, I though the original plan was to allow him and Denver's O-Line coach, Dennison I beleive, to take care of the offense. This would work even better if we could bring in someone like Jerry Gray, an expreianced DC that would take the deffensvie responsibility of Kubes' hands... that would be perfect...

I'm still hoping Gray gets the DC job! It would be great to see what he can do with our young DB's.

GP
01-29-2006, 05:17 PM
Look at it this way:

If Kubiak doesn't pan out...we can promote Sherman and we then would have (1) A HC who has compiled a winning record with the Packers and several division championships with several playoff appearances, and (2) Sherman is already familiar with the organization by the time he would take over the HC job.

I am just amazed at the bash threads in regards to the Sherman offer, as well as toward the "pals" that Kubiak is reported to be bringing into the fold.

I guess you're only an NFL expert around here if you ridicule whatever move or potential move is about to be made or has been made.

A lot of you are treating Kubiak like he's a third grader with bed wetting issues who can't be trusted to do what he wants to do now that he's our HC. It's like you have a Capers hangover or something.

He lost the anchor to his offensive line (Rivera), he has a grandpa for a QB (Favre), and his RBs and WRs were injured all year long. No bullets, no bang-bang. He took that Packers team to several division titles and playoff appearances. The mere fact that the guy has credentials Capers never had (and I don't care about the miracle Panthers season, either) and the mere fact that he's bringing a wealth of head coach talent to an assistant-type role is awesome to me--Wouldn't you want someone proven in the NFL to be an assistant on your staff if he WANTS to be? We know he works well with Kubiak, and that's a big thing.

Hopefully Sherman will accept the offer and bring his A-game with him to Houston.