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swisher
01-22-2006, 11:52 PM
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NWTexan Fan
01-23-2006, 12:42 AM
Seahawks baby...

thetexanator
01-23-2006, 05:47 AM
pretty good superbowl, i say blitzburg gets the win 24-20.

P_Buchanon
01-23-2006, 05:50 AM
I think Ben will throw them to the win... 28-10 Steelers....
:redtowel:

edo783
01-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I think Hasselback will show that his experince makes him more effective in a SB. SeaHags 28-17

Chawky1
01-23-2006, 09:36 AM
If the Seahawks can pick up those exotic Steelers blitzes, then they win. Otherwise, the Steelers D has a field day and destroys the beloved Seahawks.

gwallaia
01-23-2006, 11:15 AM
Since it is impossible for me to cheer for the Steelers, I will have to go with the Seahawks. Should be a great game.

Khari
01-23-2006, 11:18 AM
Steelers! Steelers! Steelers! :yahoo:

I just don't like the NFC. :spy:

Chawky1
01-23-2006, 11:32 AM
Steelers! Steelers! Steelers! :yahoo:

I just don't like the NFC. :spy:


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! lol :dontknowa

Ihategeeks
01-23-2006, 04:53 PM
I am 0-10 in the playoffs for the team I am rooting for.

So this basically means the Seahawks will win, and I will go 0-11

Glacier
01-23-2006, 04:59 PM
I'd like to see Bettis get his ring before he retires. I still don't like Holmgrem from when he coached in Greenbay.

I'll be cheering for the Steelers.

Double Barrel
01-23-2006, 05:04 PM
Steelers! Steelers! Steelers! :yahoo:

I just don't like the NFC. :spy:

I feel the same way. :thumbup

Some people in H-town hold a grudge against the Steelers (going back to Luv Ya Blue!). But the past is the past, and I don't let any Spoilers history drag me down. I'm done with that franchise!

So go Steelers! Represent the AFC!! :redtowel:

Dennis007
01-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Steelers all the way! :ok:

TD
01-23-2006, 05:26 PM
I came to the realization yesterday that I don't hate the Steelers anymore. I wonder when that happened.:confused: I hope the Cowgirls or Titans aren't next.

Anyway...rooting for the Seahawks; predicting Steelers in a rout.

Glacier
01-23-2006, 05:49 PM
I came to the realization yesterday that I don't hate the Steelers anymore. I wonder when that happened.:confused: I hope the Cowgirls or Titans aren't next.

Anyway...rooting for the Seahawks; predicting Steelers in a rout.

The Cowgirls are oso yummy....

http://www.dallascowboys.com/cheerleaders/home.cfm

Tale Gator
01-23-2006, 07:27 PM
Seahawks are playing on a higher level than the Steelers right now --

34 -17 Hawks :cool:

rmartin65
01-23-2006, 07:39 PM
I want the Bus to geta super bowl as well, Go Steelers!!!

Speedy
01-23-2006, 11:12 PM
I feel the same way. :thumbup

Some people in H-town hold a grudge against the Steelers (going back to Luv Ya Blue!). But the past is the past, and I don't let any Spoilers history drag me down. I'm done with that franchise!

So go Steelers! Represent the AFC!! :redtowel:Oilers, no Oilers....history, no history....I just can't stand the Pittsburgh Steelers. Never could. I will be a citizen of Seahawk Nation for the next 2 weeks, hoping that the extra time off slows Pittsburgh's momentum some. I mean they are on a 7 game winning streak right now.

Rooting big time for the Seahawks. But I know if the Steelers continue to play they way they have for the last month and a half, they probably can't be beat.

mexican_texan
01-23-2006, 11:19 PM
How 'bout rooting for ex-Texan Jamie Sharper? He has done a great job of passing out gatorade this season.

gg no re
01-23-2006, 11:41 PM
Steelers wrap it up by the 2nd quarter.

If the Colts couldn't put down 20 at home, who's to say the Hawks stand a chance.....

wiley2002
01-24-2006, 12:43 AM
True but this isn't home field advantage for either team. I'm pulling for the Seahawks. Just want to see a new team finally win a SB title.

StarStruck
01-24-2006, 01:15 AM
Steelers

gg no re
01-24-2006, 02:48 PM
True but this isn't home field advantage for either team.I was saying Colts had the homefield. Not the Steelers. Just throwing it out there.

And to add further fuel to the fire, I retract my previous statement of the Steelers wrapping up the game by the 2nd quarter.

I believe the Steelers will wrap up the game by the 1st quarter.

Shaunny66
01-24-2006, 06:40 PM
I want the Seahawks to win because.....The Steelers has to much Super Bowl Win already.:redtowel:

HJam72
01-26-2006, 07:26 PM
I don't know who I want to win and I don't have an opinion about who's the better team. It's very frustrating. :brickwall

I gotta make some decisions here.

beerlover
01-27-2006, 02:01 AM
I'll be paying special attention to the Seahawks LT Walter Jones match-up with Joey Porter and the Pittsburgh blitz. they say this is where the championships are won in the trenches, as Texans we approach the draft and ponder the possiblity to trade down and have to choose between a DE (Mario Williams) & a LT (D'Brickashaw Ferguson).

may the best team win and the Texans learn something in process :rolleyes:

FILO_girl
01-27-2006, 11:30 AM
I'd like to see Bettis get his ring before he retires. I still don't like Holmgrem from when he coached in Greenbay.

I'll be cheering for the Steelers.

I would ask why you don't like Holmgren, but I really don't care what you would say. Holmgren is top notch in my book, and ESPECIALLY while he was at GB.

Even though I would like the Bus to get his ring, I can not root for the Squeelers. I have developed a liking for the Seachickens anyway this year. It's their turn for a ring.

GO 'HAWKS!! :)

Kaiser Toro
01-27-2006, 12:49 PM
Steelers by 6, but it will not be that close of a game. 23-17 with an oh by the way TD late by the Hawks.

El_DudeArino
01-30-2006, 02:30 PM
if seattle can contain big ben they will win. They lead the league in sacks this year, why stop now...


go Seahawks:stirpot:

Chawky1
01-30-2006, 03:44 PM
Steelers wrap it up by the 2nd quarter.

If the Colts couldn't put down 20 at home, who's to say the Hawks stand a chance.....

GG will find out this coming Sunday that his choice in leaders for this country is as sound as his football knowledge. Seahawks win.

Speedy
01-30-2006, 05:49 PM
27-24
Seattle Seahawks

sportschick215
02-02-2006, 04:49 PM
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PARTY ON SUNDAY!!!! :redtowel:
hangover on monday :crying:
did yall hear about that petition that is trying to make sunday a national holiday? what do yall think about that. i know we all talk about it, but have any of yall actually considered it? i think it would be great. we are a nation that loves football. i think we all need to try and get it to be a holiday to get out of school and work. i mean, honestly, how many of us call in sick the next day? i know i do!! there are on average 1.4 million people that call out on that monday!
www.savedaday.com --at least check it out!

Speedy
02-02-2006, 08:48 PM
PARTY ON SUNDAY!!!! :redtowel:
hangover on monday :crying:
did yall hear about that petition that is trying to make sunday a national holiday? what do yall think about that. i know we all talk about it, but have any of yall actually considered it? i think it would be great. we are a nation that loves football. i think we all need to try and get it to be a holiday to get out of school and work. i mean, honestly, how many of us call in sick the next day? i know i do!! there are on average 1.4 million people that call out on that monday!
www.savedaday.com --at least check it out!Would make sense. I've heard before that there's more partying on Super Bowl Sunday than on New Years Eve.

The Dream
02-04-2006, 06:25 PM
I'm gonna say Steelers 27 and Seahawks 24.....Pittsburgh will win in dramatic fashion on a last second FG kick.

NWTexan Fan
02-05-2006, 02:38 PM
I was saying Colts had the homefield. Not the Steelers. Just throwing it out there.

And to add further fuel to the fire, I retract my previous statement of the Steelers wrapping up the game by the 2nd quarter.

I believe the Steelers will wrap up the game by the 1st quarter.

Hell...what's the point of the Seahawks even taking the field, right? You have the Steelers and Ben Worthlessburger winning the game before a snap!

I stand by my prediction...Seattle by 3. It should be close.

gwallaia
02-05-2006, 02:43 PM
I hope there are some good commercials today.

gg no re
02-05-2006, 02:54 PM
Hell...what's the point of the Seahawks even taking the field, right? You have the Steelers and Ben Worthlessburger winning the game before a snap!You're right... I let my emotions influence me into making a hasty and unwise prediction.

After calming down and thinking about the outcome of this game with a clearer mind.... I retract my previous statement.

My new prediction?

The Steelers will clinch the game in the pregame warmups, and the halftime show will be ten times better than the trashy filth we had to endure last year.

gwallaia
02-05-2006, 03:11 PM
The Steelers will clinch the game in the pregame warmups, and the halftime show will be ten times better than the trashy filth we had to endure last year.

Trashy filth? Janet Jackson was two years ago.
Sir Paul McCartney was the featured act last year.

Hopefully, Mick and certainly Keith will not have any wardrobe malfunctions today. Keith has enough malfunctions as it is.

FILO_girl
02-05-2006, 03:13 PM
Going to be interesting with both teams sharing the tunnel for 45 seconds...even though there have been warnings and promises of things being smooth (Can Porter make it without trashtalking....nah)....I am looking forward to this game! :yahoo:

gg no re
02-05-2006, 03:22 PM
My bad. Janet was the definition of trashy filth.

Paul was just a snoozefest filth.

But enough of halftime show trashing. They're always trash anyways.

I want the Seahawks to put up a good game and give me a reason to pout the morning after.

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 05:38 PM
Lee Mays, Steelers WR, went to my high school. I hope he's the MVP.:redtowel: :homer:

bruski
02-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Ever since I saw the Steelers beat the Colts I knew they would be in Superbowl 40.....I think they will win today but I am also sure that it will be a very close game which may be decided by the running backs.....

Go the Steelers......:homer:

awtysst
02-05-2006, 06:34 PM
I am taking the line: Steelers by three or a Seahawks win.

Fiddy
02-05-2006, 08:00 PM
That Sprint commerical was great...

texan279
02-05-2006, 08:16 PM
OMG The Stones sound AWFUL...

awtysst
02-05-2006, 08:17 PM
OMG The Stones sound AWFUL...

The Groaning Stones havent sounded good in a while.
Can we please get some act that can at least sound halfway decent?

Wolf
02-05-2006, 08:18 PM
they really do sound awful.. yet I wasn't ever a stones fan to begin with anyway

Marcus
02-05-2006, 08:19 PM
OMG The Stones sound AWFUL...

Yeah, they do, but blame the network for that.

texan279
02-05-2006, 08:19 PM
The Groaning Stones havent sounded good in a while.
Can we please get some act that can at least sound halfway decent?

It sounds like 4 guys playing 4 different songs and a singer who can't speak English to me.

Marcus
02-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Since when has any live concert sounded good on TV?

texan279
02-05-2006, 08:22 PM
Since when has any live concert sounded good on TV?

I am not talking about the quality of the music, Mick Jagger sounds like he is drunk, Keith Richard's guitar is out of tune, and their timing was off. They sound like they need to retire.

awtysst
02-05-2006, 08:23 PM
It sounds like 4 guys playing 4 different songs and a singer who can't speak English to me.

Mick cant speak english.
Keith has no idea which song is up.
The other two are pissed at me beacause i cant remember their names.

Boxscore
02-05-2006, 08:27 PM
I was always a Beatles fan. Never really cared for the Stones when growing up and I am almost 50. Last year Paul McCartney was awesome. I would like to see Bruce Springsteen and the E. Street Band do the nextSuper Bowl.

Marcus
02-05-2006, 08:27 PM
I am not talking about the quality of the music, Mick Jagger sounds like he is drunk, Keith Richard's guitar is out of tune, and their timing was off. They sound like they need to retire.

How could you tell all that from just watching it on TV? The songs were butchered, but I don't think was their fault.

Marcus
02-05-2006, 08:31 PM
It doesn't matter really. As lousy as they sounded, they were still more interesting than the game itself. I'd go out and mow the lawn if it wasn't dark.

texan279
02-05-2006, 08:34 PM
How could you tell all that from just watching it on TV? The songs were butchered, but I don't think was their fault.

I didn't mean Mick was literally drunk, I was talking about the way he was slurring the words, and as far as the timing and the guitar, I have played guitar for 15 years, I can spot an out of tune guitar from a mile away. It was just a really sloppy performance.

SheTexan
02-05-2006, 09:15 PM
My goodness!!! Not much SB talk!! No negative comments, no razing about the refs crap*y call!! Are you guys asleep already??!:)

Marcus
02-05-2006, 09:27 PM
My goodness!!! Not much SB talk!! No negative comments, no razing about the refs crap*y call!! Are you guys asleep already??!:)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . huh?

Sorry, but um . . . this thing is boring.

Carr Bombed
02-05-2006, 09:30 PM
Seattle is really getting Hosed on some of the calls tonight

Wolf
02-05-2006, 09:37 PM
all I know is some companies might want a refund on their commercials (did I hear right 2.5 million for 30 seconds?)

Boxscore
02-05-2006, 09:45 PM
If Pittsburgh wins, the co MVP's should be "fast" Willie Parker and Ike Taylor.

SheTexan
02-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Seattle is really getting Hosed on some of the calls tonight

Yep, ya got that right! That first interference call against the Hawks told us how the game was going to end. JMO!! I felt from the beginning that regardless of how well the Hawks played, they would NOT win this game.

gwallaia
02-05-2006, 10:10 PM
The Fed Ex commercial with the cave men and dinosaurs was the highlight of the Super Bowl for me.

Boxscore
02-05-2006, 10:15 PM
Yee Haa!!!!

CONTRATULATIONS
STEELER FANS

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:16 PM
The Fed Ex commercial with the cave men and dinosaurs was the highlight of the Super Bowl for me.
"but FedEx doesn't exist yet!"
"Not my problem" :rolleyes:

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:17 PM
Hines Ward won the MVP? Give it to TWAAN!

Carr Bombed
02-05-2006, 10:17 PM
I liked all the Bud Light comercialls, especially the one where the dude hid all the beers all over the office. I almost died laughing where that one guy started punching holes in the walls.

I also liked the pick up football game where the guy nailed the girl. "you said you were open, well now your closed":)

all in all though it was a down year for comercials

The streaking sheep wasn't bad either

Wolf
02-05-2006, 10:20 PM
I liked the fed ex one .. and the one where the small clydesdale was trying to push the budweiser wagon.. little did he know the two big ones where helping.

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:23 PM
I liked all the Bud Light comercialls, especially the one where the dude hid all the beers all over the office. I almost died laughing where that one guy started punching holes in the walls.

I also liked the pick up football game where the guy nailed the girl. "you said you were open, well now your closed":)

all in all though it was a down year for comercials

The streaking sheep wasn't bad either
Instead of the SuperBowl thread, lets make this "your favorite SB commercial." My vote goes to the aforementioned revolving Fridge.

TexanFan881
02-05-2006, 10:24 PM
all I know is some companies might want a refund on their commercials (did I hear right 2.5 million for 30 seconds?)

I think I heard that too. It's pretty rediculous considering how horrible the game was and a lot of fans probably stopped watching it. Disappointing game all together, horrible calls by the refs and could someone please tell my why with 2nd and 10 and how John Madden kept saying that they should go for a long ball and then kick a field goal if it didn't work out, why Seattle threw the ball about 2 yards in front of the line of scrimmage twice in a row and then with no timeouts ran to the line and threw the ball up to Jeremy Stevens for him to drop about his 5th pass of the game. I was looking forward to a close game, but this definately wasn't close.

TexanFan881
02-05-2006, 10:25 PM
Instead of the SuperBowl thread, lets make this "your favorite SB commercial." My vote goes to the aforementioned revolving Fridge.

Is it just me or do the Super Bowl commercials get worse and worse every year?

txlonghorn14
02-05-2006, 10:28 PM
i friggin called it. SEATTLE SUCKS, HELL YEAH BLITZBURGH

Carr Bombed
02-05-2006, 10:36 PM
If I hear "as cool as the other side of the pillow" one more time I'm going to puke.

I can't stand Stuart Scott, he tries to make the sports highlights more about him than the highlights

Tale Gator
02-05-2006, 10:37 PM
Pretty boring superbowl with some terrible calls -- should have been a closer game IMO.

Glad to see the Bus and Cower get their rings though. :cool:

Fed X commercial was a classic. :lol:

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:38 PM
If I hear "as cool as the other side of the pillow" one more time I'm going to puke.

I can't stand Stuart Scott, he tries to make the sports highlights more about him than the highlights
At least you don't have to hear Neil Everett while Scott is talking and looking at opposite sides of the building.

swisher
02-05-2006, 10:38 PM
Is it just me or do the Super Bowl commercials get worse and worse every year?


no, the expectation for them gets higher and higher. It's insane that people actually watch the Super Bowl for the freaking commercials....they are commercials.

Carr Bombed
02-05-2006, 10:41 PM
no, the expectation for them gets higher and higher. It's insane that people actually watch the Super Bowl for the freaking commercials....they are commercials. What ever happened to the "Bud Bowls" and budwieser needs to bring back the frogs and lizards.

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:41 PM
no, the expectation for them gets higher and higher. It's insane that people actually watch the Super Bowl for the freaking commercials....they are commercials.
When they cost millions of dollars per minute, they have to be amusing. Whats worse is that the commercials were much better than the game.

gg no re
02-05-2006, 10:45 PM
Seahawks did get hosed on some critical calls, but they had the game in their control had:

a) They kept feeding the ball to Darrell Jackson
b) Stopped forcing the ball to Jeremy Stevens
c) Josh Brown nailed the FGs

Count me as one of the people who questioned the Big Ben TD and the chop block call on Hasselback, but the Seahawks were +2 in the TO stat prior to the Taylor INT. I think that balances things out.

Halftime Show Note: It got me way more amped than Paul McBorefest. That made it OK in my books.

Commercials: Bring back Terry Tate!

Final Note: I first called for the game to be decided by the second quarter. I was off by 40 or 50 seconds, but close enough.

mexican_texan
02-05-2006, 10:54 PM
The halftime show looked more like the Dawn of the Dead. The NFL has to put the Janet Jackson flash behind them and truly entertain their fans.

NWTexan Fan
02-05-2006, 11:22 PM
That could've been the worst officiated Super Bowl I've ever witnessed. Yes, when it came down to it, Pittsburgh outplayed Seattle but I would go so far as to say the outcome of this game was determined by the blown calls.

If even just the obviously poor calls had been made correctly, final score should've been:

Seattle 17
Pitt 14


I am in disbelief.

beerlover
02-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Horrible refereeing. I really didn't care who won this (I'm a Texans fan), but the Seahawks really got jobbed.

They took away an early Seattle touchdown pass on a phantom offensive pass interference call.

They gave Roethlisberger a touchdown on a quarterback sneak, when it appeared he didn't get in (but it was close, at least).

They took away a fairly long pass to the Pittsburgh 1-yard line due to a phantom offensive holding call.

On the interception a couple plays later, they called Hasselback for a penalty for "taking out a blocker low"...despite the fact that Hasselback was clearly (successfully) tackling the ball-carrier.

Amazing how many huge bad calls went against one team.

gg no re
02-05-2006, 11:55 PM
The only controversial calls I would go with is the Roethlisberger TD and the Hasselback chop block.

I think if the officials had upheld the Hasselback fumble, you could claim screwjob.

Other than that, I would claim missed FGs and dropped passes the key to the Seahawk's demise.

TexanFan881
02-05-2006, 11:59 PM
Commercials: Bring back Terry Tate!


I wonder why they didn't show that commercial this year, the commercial was hilarious.lol:

TexanFan881
02-06-2006, 12:00 AM
The only controversial calls I would go with is the Roethlisberger TD and the Hasselback chop block.

I think if the officials had upheld the Hasselback fumble, you could claim screwjob.

Other than that, I would claim missed FGs and dropped passes the key to the Seahawk's demise.

Those two calls would have been controversial either way they were called. Both calls could have gone either way. Josh Brown makes his missed field goals and Seattle would have been going for the win at the end of the game.

Dunta_23
02-06-2006, 12:24 AM
Instead of the SuperBowl thread, lets make this "your favorite SB commercial." My vote goes to the aforementioned revolving Fridge.

Revolving fridge was by far the best I saw....the best part was when the guys were like "hurry the magic fridge is back"

Other than that the lowlight of the superbowl was the anthem....I cant believe how bad artists butcher that anthem...

Fiddy
02-06-2006, 12:44 AM
Revolving fridge was by far the best I saw....the best part was when the guys were like "hurry the magic fridge is back"

Other than that the lowlight of the superbowl was the anthem....I cant believe how bad artists butcher that anthem... The best commercial was the Sprint commerical with "theft deterrent"

And artists butcher the song every year, it's quite annoying and pitiful. I propose this law to Congress: People who sing the national anthem shall not be able to change any of the notes or lyrics of the song during a presentation.

Samer
02-06-2006, 01:09 AM
Gotta give the Steelers their props, they deserved it this yera

JDizzle
02-06-2006, 09:28 AM
Did Holmgren leave Cowher hanging at midfield for a handshake? I just saw Cowher standing there and I heard people saying "where is he?". I dunno if he did, but if so that's kind of lame IMO.

Jack Bauer
02-06-2006, 09:34 AM
The best commercial was the Sprint commerical with "theft deterrent"

I personally liked the streaking sheep, the "mile high club" and the jack*** commercials.

nunusguy
02-06-2006, 09:37 AM
Horrible refereeing. I really didn't care who won this (I'm a Texans fan), but the Seahawks really got jobbed.
They took away an early Seattle touchdown pass on a phantom offensive pass interference call.
They gave Roethlisberger a touchdown on a quarterback sneak, when it appeared he didn't get in (but it was close, at least).
They took away a fairly long pass to the Pittsburgh 1-yard line due to a phantom offensive holding call.
On the interception a couple plays later, they called Hasselback for a penalty for "taking out a blocker low"...despite the fact that Hasselback was clearly (successfully) tackling the ball-carrier.
Amazing how many huge bad calls went against one team.
You're exactly right beerlover. And what you said at the end is the most
amazing thing about the calls. If the bad calls had gone against both teams,
it wouldn't be so suspicious. I was pulling for the Steelers at the start of
the game, but Seattle was getting ripped so bad my sentiments swung around
in that game.
So I think perhaps the Steelers and not the Seahawks were the team with a 12th man in the game, but he was on the field of play with his teammates !
And with the Steelers being the overwhelming sentimental favforite in this game, we'd have had a congressional investigation if these calls were against them, guaranteed.
Surely the fix couldn't be in the Super Bowl game could it ? Nah, I just don't want to go there. The NFL is too important to me.

Jack Bauer
02-06-2006, 09:39 AM
Did Holmgren leave Cowher hanging at midfield for a handshake? I just saw Cowher standing there and I heard people saying "where is he?". I dunno if he did, but if so that's kind of lame IMO.

JackDizzle, I had to edit this post because I went back and looked at the end of the game again. I do think that Holmgren left Cowher standing at midfield. The look that Cowher had on his face seemed to be that of disbelief that Holmgren would do this...

Very unprofessional.

Jack Bauer
02-06-2006, 09:40 AM
Horrible refereeing. I really didn't care who won this (I'm a Texans fan), but the Seahawks really got jobbed.

They took away an early Seattle touchdown pass on a phantom offensive pass interference call.

They gave Roethlisberger a touchdown on a quarterback sneak, when it appeared he didn't get in (but it was close, at least).

They took away a fairly long pass to the Pittsburgh 1-yard line due to a phantom offensive holding call.

On the interception a couple plays later, they called Hasselback for a penalty for "taking out a blocker low"...despite the fact that Hasselback was clearly (successfully) tackling the ball-carrier.

Amazing how many huge bad calls went against one team.


Agreed. I could not believe how bad the officiating was. Was this a bad year for officiating in the playoffs or what???

The Dream
02-06-2006, 06:52 PM
refs were bad, but the Seahawks had their chances.......they had bad clock management at the end of both halfs, and Holgrem's decision to punt the ball on 4th down with 6 minutes left, was flat out dumb......didn't really care who won, but I'm glad Bettis and Cowhers finally won one.